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4621  Other / Meta / Re: [Guide] Reporting effectively on: November 20, 2018, 12:25:15 AM
What if the most of the user's messages are low value posts?

For example, Sr. Member jezus has a ton of pointless comments https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1002610;sa=showPosts

You can report a few of their posts, and include a message in the report field that they have multiple bad posts. If it isn't obvious then you could just report all of the messages you consider low value posts. However, if you are asking what will happen to user with low value posts being that of the majority of their posts then that depends on the moderator dealing with the user. If they deem it bad then they may request a global moderator/admin to ban the user. Really depends case by case.
4622  Economy / Reputation / Re: @Welsh: is my way of annoying jet cash acceptable? on: November 14, 2018, 02:42:17 PM
You posted this on the day that I went inactive for a little while so sorry for the late reply. But; Do what you want Tongue

I don't own the avatar, and I can change if you really want this one, and you don't want to get mixed up. I will have to have a word with Jet cash about his remark that its not a real country though Cheesy Welcome to Wales, hope you enjoy your time here!

I cannot, and will not condone annoying Jet Cash though  Roll Eyes
4623  Other / Meta / Re: [Guide] Reporting effectively on: November 14, 2018, 10:00:43 AM
but why is there this restriction at all?
currently i have a very high number of "unhandled" messages although our responsible moderator doesn't see any outstanding reports from me. i'm looking forward to the overview because there should be visible what is still "unhandled".
Probably to prevent users from complaining when their report is handled not the way they wanted it to be. If anyone user had access then they would scrutinize the moderators, and keep complaining in Meta. At least that's my prediction, and I imagine theymos implemented for something along the lines of this.
4624  Other / Meta / Re: Altcoin discussion on: November 13, 2018, 01:55:51 PM
Considering the amount of spam in the Altcoin Discussion section by newbies, and the lack of reports that I receive. I'd wager that there aren't that many reports for such an active section, and mprep isn't getting much help moderating there. I receive few for the Bitcoin discussion section, but I think there's far more newbies posting in the Altcoin Discussion section.

Personally, I'd like to see both Bitcoin Discussion, and Altcoin have a deep clean, and possibly more moderators added to them. This has been discussed over, and over, but having global moderators dedicated to a section alone doesn't really help the situation. Then again, if there's no one reporting there then theymos isn't going to know who to dedicate there. So, there needs to be changes in both regards. Hence the reason more users need to be reporting in these sections, and helping out the global moderators.

And at this current stage it would be very difficult to take back those sections.
Unless of course major decisions are taken.
It would be difficult, but I think it can be done within a few days of some heavy initial moderation, and then being more strict from there on out. Most megathreads would either need to be locked or completely removed which would likely result in a lot of users being unhappy that they have lost post count, and the inevitable complaints will flood in on whoever is doing the moderation there. "x is biased" or "x is to harsh".
4625  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Cloudbet's English Premier League Football Pool Discussion Thread on: November 13, 2018, 05:01:04 AM
Yeah, these international breaks always ruin the flow of the season, and undoubtedly your best player is going to get injured in the 90th minute of a game they are already winning by 3 goals. Especially, close to the winter fixtures where everything is just crammed in.  

Its the opposite for rugby for me. I much prefer the internationals, and rarely keep up with club rugby.
4626  Other / Meta / Re: [Guide] Reporting effectively on: November 13, 2018, 04:47:29 AM
AFAIK global moderators don't see how many reports you've made. They might do, but I doubt they would use that as a gauge whether your correct or not. Each report should be looked at individually. Also, are you sure the users aren't already banned? How are you checking whether they are banned or not?

We have a lot of reports where the user has been banned long ago, but their messages still remain. I tend to delete the message in these cases.

Sorry, missed this reply in my ever-burgeoning watchlist.

Over the last month I've reported at least 250 posts in the 3 threads that appear to be using the same bumping service so I have got quite the data set to work with here, and I can assure you that accounts in these threads are requiring more than one report of plagiarism to get banned based on them continuing to post even after the first report was marked good. For example, I submitted 2 plagiarism reports each for the users Forward and 30stomachs - both "newbies" dating from 2011 and 2014, respectively - at around 5:00AM my time on Nov. 3rd and the reports were marked good by the following morning (likely the mod is in a very different time zone from me). Those users were still posting, however, so I dug up another instance of plagiarism for both of them and the next morning the reports were marked good. Both accounts were still posting, though, so I found yet another example of plagiarism - a total of 5!? - and finally they were banned (30stomachs was nuked, actually). This was one of the more extreme examples, but *all* of the accounts I have reported for plagiarism in these 3 threads (Neluns, Neogame.io and SafeInsure) have required more than 1 example of plagiarism before they were banned, whereas when I report plagiarism in, say, the HoweyCoins thread that user is generally banned as soon as the report is marked good.

I haven't been handling any reports in the last month, but usually if the plagiarism is clear, and they are newbies I'll deal with them, and nuke them. I'm slowly getting back into things, because things are a little hectic when you come back from a long trip, but I should be dealing with much more reports soon.

I can't really speak for other moderators, but when I see obvious plagiarism then I'll deal with it accordingly. If they aren't newbies, then sometimes they will take a while, because they need to either be reported to a global moderator or left for a global moderator. Sometimes a moderator might delete the reply, and then a global moderator doesn't see the report, because of that reason.

I'm not entirely sure, and I'm just speculating really. It depends on the moderator dealing with it. Maybe, they are using their own discretion, and think that a one time offense doesn't warrant a ban, and they might message that user. I don't know honestly.

Did both these noobs have more than 28 activity (Forward still does)? AFAIK regular mods can nuke only below 28, others have to be delegated to globals... hence the delay perhaps.
Yeah, this could be another reason. I can assure you that plagiarism is dealt with harshly, and there's many many reports from moderators going to the global moderators every day.
4627  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Cloudbet's English Premier League Football Pool Discussion Thread on: November 12, 2018, 09:51:12 AM
Yeah,I'm not giving up, and will continue to put my predictions in. Hopefully, with a bit more consistency from now on! I should have more time on my hands, but these last few days have been a bit crazy getting back to normal from my trip. I did manage to catch the Liverpool game, and I'm still a little worried.

With the situation they are in with the champions League they'll need to come up big against psg. I don't know what to think really they are grinding out points really well, but what Liverpool have become to be known for in recent years is exciting football. Who h at the moment they aren't living up too. I can't comment on the Arsenal game as I heard that was open ended stuff, but couldn't watch it myself.

I don't know. We saw glimpses of quality yesterday. For example girmino and Salah linking up that once which was pure filth, but nothing came of it, and maybe Salah should of done better. Shaquirirs finish was very nicely taken though.
4628  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Are you using a password manager on: November 11, 2018, 09:44:37 AM
One master password for all of your passwords? Not a fan. Although, it can be convenient it doesn't mean its the best option. However, I believe password managers do have 2 factor as well like requiring a certain file to login. That could be something thats useful, and attackers wouldn't think of looking at. A popular choice seems to be Yubikey, and keepass together. I've used password managers in the past, but have moved on since to the old fashion way of remembering them, and recording them locally for complex passwords.

It really depends. Its as safe as the environment its kept in, and the strength of the password.
4629  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Cloudbet's English Premier League Football Pool Discussion Thread on: November 11, 2018, 09:40:06 AM
Well, I'm hoping that Liverpool got the kick up the arse that they needed against Red Star. Just like when Dejan got rinsed against Tottenham they seemed to kick start their season. I'm hoping that's the case, but honestly they've just been grinding out results, and I don't see them clicking all of a sudden. I think seeing Man City in such good form is a little demoralizing for the guys too.
4630  Other / Meta / Re: blocked account on: November 10, 2018, 10:16:30 AM
If your account has been nuked forever I guess that's okay to create a new one but if it will be uplift or just have time allotment on the ban that is purely ban evasion.

Not really. Whether its been nuked or banned it would still be ban evasion. They can create an account, and ask/appeal in meta, but it doesn't mean they'll get an answer. But, anyone that gets banned/nuked or whatever shouldn't create a new account until they've had their appeal accepted.
4631  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Cloudbet's English Premier League Football Pool Discussion Thread on: November 10, 2018, 08:40:44 AM
Still a load of guys in our pool not put their predictions in yet. Hurry up boys, Saturday will be here very soon. I’ve done all mine for this weekend & locked them so feel free to spy on what I’ve put Cheesy

Still waiting to hear if I’ll have 2 tickets for Liverpool vs Fulham on Sunday. I wasn’t able to get tickets for this game myself in the summer so got a quote off a ticket tout I met from online years ago who sorts me out when I haven’t got tickets from the official club route. Not happy with the price he gave me yesterday so waiting to see if he can do any better.

If not I’ll just watch on BT Sport, fuck it.

I'm terrible at it. Not the predicting, but the actual putting in it thing....haha. I was away for 3 weeks, and I remembered to do it a few times, but other things just got in the way, and I ended up forgetting about it. Without a doubt I don't have a chance now, but I'll do keep doing it for my own entertainment.

I mean I was just giving you guys a chance. You can look out now! Cheesy
4632  Other / Meta / Re: Is there any way to check everyday forum activity? on: November 10, 2018, 08:17:00 AM
There's this page: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=stats

I have no idea how accurate some of the data is there, and haven't checked it in a while. Seems like 7994.49 is the average posts per day, however that seems hard to believe, and I would say its much more than that. Also, it seems like it only tracked up to December 2017.

The top posters, and some other data seems to be up to date though.
4633  Other / Meta / Re: Reporter Statistics on: November 10, 2018, 07:29:57 AM
This can be risky, and can be exploited for whatever reason and can create more spam instead of reducing it.
Someone could create 50 accounts with bots and report messages to increase their number to get the reward.
Someone already paid more on some campaign for "more merit than the rank" for the green trust, and this could be the case since it give "more visibility" to the account.
They could. However, the payoff is pretty low. Its only a badge, and creating accounts, and then posting with them just to report them is time consuming when you could just find spam that's already on the forum. Its not hard. If the forum wasn't over run with spam then I would agree.
4634  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / MOVED: [DROP][ICO] 💊 CURES Token 💊 Revolutionary, universal healthcare ecosystem 🚀🚀 on: November 10, 2018, 07:21:54 AM
This topic has been moved to Trashcan.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5046075.0

Incentivising posting within specific threads. Refer to:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2103690.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=434310.0
4635  Other / Meta / Re: [Guide] Reporting effectively on: November 09, 2018, 12:14:32 PM
So, is this a case of the global mod(s) still considering me somewhat untrustworthy for not having enough reports (394 at 99% accuracy) or incorrect report format or overworked mods (ok, that one is a given) or does it really now take multiple instances of plagiarism to get banned?!?


AFAIK global moderators don't see how many reports you've made. They might do, but I doubt they would use that as a gauge whether your correct or not. Each report should be looked at individually. Also, are you sure the users aren't already banned? How are you checking whether they are banned or not?

We have a lot of reports where the user has been banned long ago, but their messages still remain. I tend to delete the message in these cases.
4636  Other / Meta / Re: Reporter Statistics on: November 08, 2018, 02:02:25 PM
If theymos hurries up & implements these new reporter badges then people at least have something to gain & look forward to.

Embarrassing as it sounds I used to love ranking up when I first started posting here. I guess it’d be similar achieving the different reporter badges.
When they were first mentioned, and announced I personally saw a few members that either reported very little or nothing at all start putting hundreds of reports in. Unfortunately, that died down after I assume they hit the requirement for the badge. I'm thinking we need much higher badges, and continue to add to them to keep the incentive.  

They work. It promotes reporting without even  being a thing so I can imagine it will have a great impact when they are introduced, but I'd like to add some higher up ones just to keep the incentive alive. Even, ones that seem impossible to reach right now.
4637  Other / Meta / Re: Reporter Statistics on: November 08, 2018, 01:29:33 PM
I'm just happy seeing a few members finding it "fun" to report. I used to find it therapeutic, and hopefully a few others will make a game of it to make it more bearable, because it is a very unrewarding task sometimes when the spam just keeps flying in.

The more reports, the better the community will become. 
4638  Other / Meta / Re: Reporter Statistics on: October 30, 2018, 01:26:32 AM
I stopped reporting a long time ago. However, will have more time and will be reporting out of my section soon enough. I can't take a picture due to the connection not being able to withstand uploading it. However, I'm giving those that want to catch up a few days.

But I have:

39883 reports with 100% accuracy. 263 bad. 45 unhandled.

Damn it. That is so unfair. Give us more than a few days.

Unless you're talking about the sum of everyone else's reports catching up to you - then we might stand a chance.

You have until I come back from my expedition! Which is in 6ish days. I don't know I've lost count of the days over here. I'll be having a lot more time on my hands as this year and last has been training for this.

Let the report wars begin! So hmm first to a million?
4639  Other / Meta / Re: Reporter Statistics on: October 27, 2018, 11:47:20 AM
Why some reports are unhandled for a long time ( in fact forever)?




Some reports never get dealt with because the people with jurisdiction don't know what to do with it. I would estimate that nearly all reports have been seen by someone. At least these days. But, if they are borderline a good or bad report they might just simply be left. I would think local boards have a decent number of unhandled reports.
4640  Other / Meta / Re: Reporter Statistics on: October 27, 2018, 11:42:57 AM
I stopped reporting a long time ago. However, will have more time and will be reporting out of my section soon enough. I can't take a picture due to the connection not being able to withstand uploading it. However, I'm giving those that want to catch up a few days.

But I have:

39883 reports with 100% accuracy. 263 bad. 45 unhandled.
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