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Most of the topics there need to be archived/locked or removed entirely. The discussion has long come to an end, but its easy for bounty participants to add a generic post in the thread, and get paid for it. The underlying issue is how easy it is to make an account, and start making money through bounties, because of the low standards of acceptance from altcoins.
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Just saw this post below. Maybe theymos can hire this woman to do an introduction video:
I think this might be the solution to all of our problems on Bitcointalk. Theymos did suggest he's looking to offload more responsibilities on to others. Seems like she has the perfect resume  |
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The altcoin section has undoubtedly a ton of shit posting but there's a lot of legit discussion there too, you just have to find the good threads.
That's the annoying part about it. There is actual worthy discussion there, but it just gets labeled as a trash place, because quite frankly the majority of it is trash. Unfortunately, the amount of trash that is there stops most people from visiting the place, and contributing with good quality content. Therefore, we are just lumbered with low quality posts from low quality members. |
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This is probably more complicated than PHP code but perhaps if you could make more data available publicly you could get help from the community here as well. It would probably be a good idea for the new forum to have the possibility of having users propose code changes as the forum ages, and new features need to be added or old ones changed slightly. Would probably be better for community input rather than hiring someone to do split the work, or theymos continue doing it himself. |
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Well, Crystal Palace surprised me an awful lot last night. I kind of expected them to sit back a little, and look to counter attack. But, at home I was expected a second half barrage from them with Zaha leading the attacks. Instead, they pretty much counter attacked the whole time. They did pretty well, and forced some decent saves from the Liverpool goalkeeper.
Wasn't the way I saw the game going to be honest. Liverpool didn't have it too easy, but didn't struggle that much either. Certainly not defensively which I thought they might.
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Yeah, I guess I was indirectly correct. I didn't really have the Burnley game in mind when making that statement in all honesty though. Yeah, I'm either expecting Liverpool to come out all guns blazing, and put quite a few on them or as is tradition with CP VS Liverpool they'll both score a few goals, and it will be a close game right until the end of the whistle.
I think Liverpool have the capability of not leaking as much goals as they have in previous games against Crystal Palace though.
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I doubt we will see a high scoring one in the Burnley game. All the betting websites where I read news and do the analysis were predicting a low scoring game but those are just predictions anyway. For this game my score is 1-0 for Burnley.
Yeah, I was referring to the others. For example, I saw the Man Utd game going quite high scoring like it was. I think the Liverpool, and Crystal palace game today will likely have a few goals in it. Especially, considering CP will likely come at Liverpool considering they are playing at home. |
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Also, Welsh and others, you have 15 free picks if you ever forget. They're used up automatically, and are set to the most popular prediction for the games. So basically, you haven't lost anything just yet.
I've put my picks in up to Week 3, but will probably make sure I have at least 2 weeks in advance picked out. You can always change them later. Takes all of 30 mins to enter everything right up to season end, so why not?
Wasn't aware of the free 15 picks. I guess that's how I got 7 points from the first round I did alright on some of the games yesterday, and I think I should pick up some points from the remaining games. No idea what the scores will be with these though, as we've got the potential for some high scoring ones. |
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What I propose is to start a program like "SpamBusters" instead of reporting users who are spamming. Users could be assigned to different boards and they would report in the posts which are under-merited or haven't received merit at all. This should ease out the process of meriting users for the merit sources IMO.
Its a good idea. Especially, because this could give theymos some indication on good merit sources. Currently, they have to make an application for a merit source. Which some users might not be willing to do publicly, because of the issue with users begging merit sources for merits. I think it would be a good idea, but I don't know too many merit sources which would be willing to crawl through a queue of messages which have been reported for being of high standard. |
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I, and others, want merit for rank up. Bitcointalk is like a small social, or online game, the higher rank you are, the happier you have, it is the self-satisfaction when you're proud of yourself. High rank is like high level game character, you will be admired and respected.
Yeah, it has nothing to do with the promise of pretty much free money. Nah, its fair enough that people want to be higher ranked for a status thing, but these people aren't usually the users that spam, and are willing to put an effort in the get to the higher ranks. Honestly, though. I couldn't care less about your motives for wanting merit. As long as its not abusing the system. I don't really care if people are signing up to the forum for the sole purpose of making money, as long as they are a constructive member of the forum, and aren't spamming their way through the ranks. |
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We're running out of options.
Restrictions are likely the best option in the case of bounty campaigns, and the current spam problem that these things encourage. However, introducing a fair merit requirement might be more difficult that rounding it up to nice numbers such as 5. To be honest 1 merit point would likely reduce the amount of users spamming by a significant amount. |
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A few people have mentioned in the past that they would prefer the account sales to be dealt with on forum to increase the chances of them being exposed if they were to be sold. To be honest, even if we did ban account sales it wouldn't have any effect. Other than lessening the amount of threads opened in the marketplace I guess.
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Yeah, some have since been removed, however in the future you can just report these using the "report to moderator" button. They'll likely get dealt with just as quick as creating a new thread.
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Regardless, its been pretty stable for the last few minutes or so. Maybe, it is an attack of some sort. It hasn't been too much of a issue, and seemed to only affect it for a small amount of time. I did timeout on a few posts after my previous reply stating posts are fine. No big issue though.
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The thing is there's good campaigns, and then there's bounty/altcoin campaigns. It seems that the majority of well managed campaigns are paying in Bitcoin, and are managed by reputable members. Although, the ones that pay in altcoins or even worse promising payment in "shares" of their own coin. These are the ones that are opened by low ranked accounts, and encourage spam rather than looking at offering a fair way to earn money, but also assure that quality users are selected.
We could either require a payment for displaying signatures or if that's not something theymos is particularly into implementing. We could just impose restrictions on running campaigns in the altcoin/bounty sections.
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There is one thing that remains a question for me is whether they (spammers) know the definition spam post and forum spam. If there is a newbie who doesn't know what it means and lazy to read a pinned post, maybe they can understand this first: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forum_spamIt doesn't matter if they know what spam is or not. I'm pretty sure they do mind you. However, the users that are spamming for campaigns or what ever other motives they might have usually aren't the ones to care about the state of the forum. They care about getting paid or bumping their service to earn more money. |
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don't shitcoin and bounties, due to the volumes of visitors that bring, generate indirectly funds to the forum in the form of paid advertisement?
Sure. Doesn't mean we should bow down to them, and let them do what they want though. I think the best way to approach most of the problems with altcoins is imposing restrictions to reduce the spam problem. I'm really not sure how to combat the scam problem, because from a moderation point of view it isn't going to happen. I've seen a few users starting to research each project in depth though which has given some decent results. |
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