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621  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Masternodes what good are they? on: May 04, 2015, 06:43:50 PM


Yes with Monero and Bitcoin only !
The Monero community must be looking out for the thieves then? Thieves deserve a fairly distributed and ethically organized means through which they can cover their tracks, I see.
622  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Masternodes what good are they? on: May 04, 2015, 06:36:38 PM

Fundamentally, masternodes are the 'trusted 3rd party security hole' that Szatoshi Nickamoto warned us not to use.

Masternodes are part of Dash's multilevel HYIP marketing scheme.

Your masternodes earn Dash, so you can buy more masternodes.   Roll Eyes

They don't actually DO anything useful, and present a vastly expanded attack surface to adversaries.

Unbelievably, payouts are centrally directed by a master-masternode, which makes Dash an unregistered/illegal money transmitting business.

I wouldn't want the stolen BTC from BTer.com passing through my masternode, but the DashHoles are demonstrably eager to participate in the plunder and launder coins for the thieves.

If you bring these facts up on the DashHole thread, the cult-like community alternatively attacks and fake-ignores you for disturbing their groupthink and cheerleading.
Wait, so it's ok if the thieves use Monero to launder their coins, rather than Dash?
623  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [POLL] Does EVAN DUFFIELD regret instamining DRK/DASH at 100x emission? on: May 03, 2015, 02:01:38 AM

The two are unrelated and monero wouldn't even be discussed here where it is off topic if dash defenders didn't resort to ad homenem. For example if it were really true that me criticizing dash was bad for monero we would see high monero volume as people rushed to dump. We don't.
I'm not saying that you criticizing Dash directly lead to anything that is happening with Monero. Or Dash for that matter. I'm saying that it leads to antagonism between the Dash and Monero communities, which in the long run will probably just hurt both. I fail to see how it benefits Monero, which I assume is your goal?

I'd guess that your logic goes like this. Dash becomes illegitimate, therefore people switch over to Monero. But in reality, it results in shit being thrown from both sides. There are adverse consequences for each side. Instead you could just focus on making Monero better, which would actually help Monero. But hey, it's your time. If you feel that it's best spent by trashing others, then that's your choice.

Take me as an example. In the past I may have gone out of the way to trash Monero, but for the most part, I stopped. I even advised people that both Monero and Dash are worthy of investment. If you and the rest of the Monero community didn't constantly antagonize, I would only have positive things to say about Monero.
624  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [POLL] Does EVAN DUFFIELD regret instamining DRK/DASH at 100x emission? on: May 03, 2015, 01:14:50 AM

The point is he cherry picked the lowest volume exchange for XMR, which was silly and dumb. Sorry I had to explain that, thought it was obvious.


It may be the lowest volume exchange for Monero, but it's still a somewhat popular exchange. I have an account there, although I haven't used it in quite a while. Either way, antagonizing Dash does not seem to be benefiting Monero much. I feel like you're expecting your actions to result in negative consequences for Dash. But the only thing that will bring down Dash is a glaring failure with Darksend, or an undeniably superlative competitor. Flinging shit only results in both parties becoming covered in shit.
625  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [POLL] Does EVAN DUFFIELD regret instamining DRK/DASH at 100x emission? on: May 03, 2015, 12:49:25 AM
I actually feel bad for Monero, because I think the developers are generally good people. It doesn't seem like they're in it exclusively for the money, judging by how much of their time and funds they put into a project that isn't expected to yield profits for a while. They could easily make pump and dump garbage, yet they work on boring (but very necessary) stuff like making a better database for Monero. If they didn't go around and shit on Dash all day, I'd be at peace with them. And I feel like the antagonism between the two coins could at least begin to subside.
626  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Necronomicon thread: Altcoins which are dead. on: May 03, 2015, 12:36:41 AM
Add Cryptoshekel (SHKL).
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=394123.0
627  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [POLL] Does EVAN DUFFIELD regret instamining DRK/DASH at 100x emission? on: May 03, 2015, 12:28:42 AM


Another stupid comment. Here's Dash trading with $1 volume:

Code:
Coin  Exchange    Volume
DASH  Bleutrade   $ 1
Lol. Smooth, I haven't even heard of that exchange before. Look at Poloniex instead. On XMR's primary exchange (!!!), Dash is at 26 BTC volume, and XMR is at 40 BTC volume. Dash is catching up on an exchange that is the go to place for Monero!
628  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [POLL] Does EVAN DUFFIELD regret instamining DRK/DASH at 100x emission? on: May 02, 2015, 11:56:52 PM


No character change really. illodin knew back then what was up, he just didn't care as long as he got a piece of the pie.

Nothing wrong with this. The community decided it was legitimate, and that's all that matters.
629  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [POLL] Does EVAN DUFFIELD regret instamining DRK/DASH at 100x emission? on: May 02, 2015, 10:44:32 PM

Again, go read the laws concerning these matters before continuing to argue on a baseless foundation. Evan Duffield has been the main, sole developer of Dash no matter how long or how brief. Vertoe has stated that Dash is centralized. A cryptocurrency needs to meet two criteria to be defined as decentralized, Dash only met/meets one.

 c.   De-Centralized Virtual Currencies

            A final type of convertible virtual currency activity involves a de-centralized convertible virtual currency (1) that has no central repository and no single administrator, and (2) that persons may obtain by their own computing or manufacturing effort.

Oh, Vertoe said it, case closed in that case. Disgruntled ex-team members never lie or misrepresent, so we know this must be true. Evan may be the main developer, but to say he is the sole developer is an outright lie. Troll harder.
630  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [POLL] Does EVAN DUFFIELD regret instamining DRK/DASH at 100x emission? on: May 02, 2015, 10:37:18 PM
That has nothing to do with regulating the initial distribution of a digital currency. Evan was fully within his rights to determine how Dash would be distributed, and furthermore, make changes in the future. He could have premined it 100% and sold the coins for $1000 a piece, and it still wouldn't be illegal. It's obvious that you're grasping at straws.

Having an unregistered IPO in the USA is Illegal if that's what you're referring to. It's probably best that you go inform yourself of the various laws concerning securities, at least in the U.S.
That's nice, but rather irrelevant, considering that cryptocurrencies are not securities under federal law.
631  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [POLL] Does EVAN DUFFIELD regret instamining DRK/DASH at 100x emission? on: May 02, 2015, 10:18:18 PM
That has nothing to do with regulating the initial distribution of a digital currency. Evan was fully within his rights to determine how Dash would be distributed, and furthermore, make changes in the future. He could have premined it 100% and sold the coins for $1000 a piece, and it still wouldn't be illegal. It's obvious that you're grasping at straws.
632  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [POLL] Does EVAN DUFFIELD regret instamining DRK/DASH at 100x emission? on: May 02, 2015, 10:09:12 PM

Show me the law that regulates precisely how I can distribute my magic internet tokens.
633  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [POLL] Does EVAN DUFFIELD regret instamining DRK/DASH at 100x emission? on: May 02, 2015, 10:00:41 PM
We can agree to disagree. There are clearly situations where scam refers to "unfair", and not necessarily illegal. And you still haven't shown me which of Evan's actions were illegal.
634  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [POLL] Does EVAN DUFFIELD regret instamining DRK/DASH at 100x emission? on: May 02, 2015, 09:52:05 PM

Step 1: Go to your nearest 'reputable' dictionary, oxford should do well

Step 2: Open it up and search for "scam"

Step 3: Read the definition closely

Step 4: Apply it to the statement that "my contention is that a scam does not necessarily have to be illegal" and see the faults within your reasoning
I already gave you the definition on the previous page. Show me where it says that scams are necessarily illegal. Dishonest yes, but not necessarily illegal. You guys claim that the Dash instamine is a scam. Ok, please explain to me what part of it was illegal. By your own logic, Dash can't be a scam, now can it? Good job, you've done my work for me.
635  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [POLL] Does EVAN DUFFIELD regret instamining DRK/DASH at 100x emission? on: May 02, 2015, 09:44:25 PM

Show you the definition of a scam? Am I being purposely trolled here?

Are you debating that a scam isn't by definition illegal?
Correct, my contention is that a scam does not necessarily have to be illegal. As I have already stated, there are a large number of people who feel that cryptocurrency is a scam.
636  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [POLL] Does EVAN DUFFIELD regret instamining DRK/DASH at 100x emission? on: May 02, 2015, 09:38:43 PM
Do you know what fraud is? Here's a quick wikipedia for you: In law, fraud is deliberate deception to secure unfair or unlawful gain. Fraud is both a civil wrong (i.e., a fraud victim may sue the fraud perpetrator to avoid the fraud and/or recover monetary compensation) and a criminal wrong (i.e., a fraud perpetrator may be prosecuted and imprisoned by governmental authorities). The purpose of fraud may be monetary gain or other benefits, such as obtaining a drivers license by way of false statements.[1]

It is Illegal...
Ever heard of a thing called nuance? Words often have multiple definitions. There are clearly things that people would consider to be a scam, and yet are perfectly legal. Cryptocurrency is a great example. Many people outside of crypto consider digital currency to be a scam, and yet here we are.
637  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [POLL] Does EVAN DUFFIELD regret instamining DRK/DASH at 100x emission? on: May 02, 2015, 09:33:06 PM
And a scam, to which you've stated you like as long as you get to benefit, is by definition: Illegal.
Scam
noun
1.
a confidence game or other fraudulent scheme, especially for making a quick profit; swindle.
verb (used with object), scammed, scamming.
2.
to cheat or defraud with a scam.


Fraudulent

adjective
1.
characterized by, involving, or proceeding from fraud, as actions, enterprise, methods, or gains:
a fraudulent scheme to evade taxes.
2.
given to or using fraud, as a person; cheating; dishonest.

Dishonest does not necessarily imply illegal. Is it dishonest to go into a restaurant and state that you hated the food (resulting in a free meal) when you actually didn't? Yep. Is it illegal? Nope.
638  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [POLL] Does EVAN DUFFIELD regret instamining DRK/DASH at 100x emission? on: May 02, 2015, 09:29:34 PM
You stated you like scams. A scam by definition is something that is not within the law/illegal. Now you're saying otherwise and talking about loopholes...(?) I've already quoted what you said so there's no going back...
I'm not going back. I respect those who are able to exploit the stupidity of others. There are many ways to do this legally. And a scam does not have to be illegal. Otherwise all you Monero trolls are using it incorrectly in describing Dash. There is nothing illegal about what Duffield did.
639  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [POLL] Does EVAN DUFFIELD regret instamining DRK/DASH at 100x emission? on: May 02, 2015, 09:23:39 PM


You're pathetic. Please leave, I don't like to associate myself with those who like benefitting at the prospect of something being a scam. I suppose you also would engage in things like identity theft, carding, and others as long as you benefit right? Get lost.
No, I only respect scams that are within the law. I would not respect a shoplifter, but if someone can go into a restaurant and figure out a way to legally get free food, I would respect that.

The definition of a scam is something that is illegal/not within the law. You're not even making sense troll.
Not necessarily. If I buy something, and then tell the seller that I was not satisfied, and they give me free stuff, that's 100% legal. If someone convinces others to buy tokens that were generated at zero cost, that's 100% within the law. There are many forms of trickery that allow one to benefit, and yet they're completely within the law.
640  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [POLL] Does EVAN DUFFIELD regret instamining DRK/DASH at 100x emission? on: May 02, 2015, 09:17:20 PM


You're pathetic. Please leave, I don't like to associate myself with those who like benefitting at the prospect of something being a scam. I suppose you also would engage in things like identity theft, carding, and others as long as you benefit right? Get lost.
No, I only respect scams that are within the law. I would not respect a shoplifter, but if someone can go into a restaurant and figure out a way to legally get free food, I would respect that. I don't respect a bank robber, but I do respect a lawyer who uses a technicality to extract millions of dollars from some company.
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