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701  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency on: March 20, 2017, 02:09:53 AM
Monero is great and I've heavily invested into it

That's hard to verify because I don't see your name here.

https://getmonero.org/getting-started/donate/hall-of-fame

If you are not satisfied with the pace of development, get on that list along with the rest of us who are heavily invested.

Wait what ? Cheesy Cheesy  Hhahaha. So you're trying to imply that this is a proper governance model ? Donation based ? Cheesy Oh, my...


The donation based FFS got Monero a GUI and RingCT among many other very nice things.

I don't know what you consider "proper governance" but if it works, it ain't stupid improper.

It's worth noting the escrow-based Monero FFS has never funded a scam, unlike Dash and its Lamassu ATM project.   Cool
702  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: March 17, 2017, 04:34:38 PM
You realise Dash will never be on Coinbase right?

Coinbase is getting fucked by regulation anyway.

703  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency on: March 17, 2017, 04:27:37 PM
I've discussed Dash's internal economic model, external economic model w.r.t. other cryptos, fiat, various aspects of the financial system such as units of measure and trade clearing facilities.

The appropriate case for implementing price stability, identified account holdings, support for national currencies and obfuscation based 'privacy' is the system on the left (variable supply/unit of measure state currency).

The appropriate store of value in that case would be the one on the right (deflationary currency) which is necessarily volatile (otherwise it can't store value), transparent, unbacked and otherwise represents 'bearer-token' properties.

That's a meal-sized word salad you've tossed up in your latest sojourn to the conceptual buffet.

Too bad it's meaningless, jargon saturated waffle and has nothing to do with the current reality of Dash facts on the ground.

But it does establish you as the most fundamental-averse Dash pumper in the world, so congratulations kind-of.

704  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency on: March 17, 2017, 05:00:04 AM
CATV | Dash: More Than A Currency, It's The Beginning Of A Global Movement



https://youtu.be/Hvlstq-6xL8

#DashNation #CashAlternative


Bump.

Please wait 24 hours between bumping your DashSpam so the moderators don't have to clean up your digital trash.

Thanks.  Smiley
705  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency on: March 17, 2017, 01:56:03 AM
WTF? Network glitch?



I can't tell if this is iCey trolling at the protocol level or the normal trolling  Huh

Can you tell now?   Cool

lol  rekt
706  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: March 16, 2017, 11:12:22 PM
The Dash community has identified a legitimate flaw in Bitcoin, the blocksize scaling / lack of tail emission issue, and then used this in a marketing pump for Dash. The problem with this is that Dash has the very same flaw, as Bitcoin, only worse, since in Dash the falling block reward has not only to support the miners but also the masternodes and their project budget. All of this has nothing to do with the controversy over the Dash instamine.

Coins that do not have this issue because they have a tail emission include Ethereum, but not Ethereum Classic, Monero, Dogecoin and Aeon. DigitalNote has a tail emission but it may be way too small. Monero has an adaptive blocksize limit and the fee structure to go along with it. It would not be difficult to retrofit Dogecoin with a similar adaptive blocksize limit / fee structure, and in principle although more complex it should be possible to do this with Ethereum.

Monero like adaptive blocksize limits without a tail emission will lead to an insecure coin. Bytecoin, and many Cryptonote coins for example are living on borrowed time because of this. The way to understand this is how fees work in Monero, where fees are proportional to the (emission) / (Effective median blocksize). If the emission goes to zero then so do the fees and the coin becomes insecure. This by the way is the concern of many in Bitcoin Core who choose security over scaling for obvious reasons.

I have not seen a solution to the fee / scaling issue for Bitcoin and similar coins with a fixed total number of coins, other than having the blocksize set by a miner vote. (BIP100 type solutions) https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Scalability_FAQ. This may work in a competitive environment where Bitcoin is competing with other payment solutions; however it could also lead to a situation where a mining cartel tries to take the market cap for themselves.

Edit: The Dash market cap is around 530,000 XBT and I understand that the pirateat40 losses were closer to 700,000 XBT. Still it is getting close.

The Dash community doesn't even understand that cryptography is the basis for cryptocash.  Their pump is the work of Roger Vermin and Team Gavin trying to steal Bitcoin's ETF/ATH limelight.

AFAIK Bitcoin's static blocksize is currently working better than Monero's dynamic one and will continue to do so until April 15 at the very earliest.

What happens after that, and in the far future of tail emissions, is anyone's guess.

The more certainty you proclaim about the outcomes of those future events the more credibility you lose.

Of course deducing matters of fact from relations of ideas is a fun game, but it's important to avoid hubris and be honest about the limitations of divining matters empirical.
707  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency on: March 16, 2017, 10:48:38 PM
I would not buy Dash at any price, because according to the CTO of Coinbase it is "digital trash."

I'd interprete that advice as a cry for help if I were you Wink

It's clear from the context he's just having a laugh shitposting at Dash's expense.

https://twitter.com/SatoshiLite/status/840661629339549696

708  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency on: March 16, 2017, 10:26:58 PM

ah so you are waiting to buy at $75? i guess you've waited that too. it didn't took you forever did it? but it toook the price to reach 75 before you thought of buying.  thats not sad at all. of course you get to profit still its now $85 thats decent enough still. congrats icebroker.

I would not buy Dash at any price, because according to the CTO of Coinbase it is "digital trash."

No comment on how your "wait forever" prediction turned out to be wrong in less than a day?   Grin

well i won't comment that you certainly watch over the market for 24 hours for whatever purpose why watching it when you are not buying. surely you have a ton of time to waste just watching the market.  i wouldn't suggest to anyone to simply become a spectator of the market. its a boring job, in case you don't notice.

Intelligent strategy: "Rebuying DASH sub 76$"
FOMO: "you're going to wait forever"

Your FOMO was wrong and you should feel bad for being wrong.

Doesn't your pumping arm ever get tired?
709  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency on: March 16, 2017, 10:19:00 PM
Monero is great and I've heavily invested into it

That's hard to verify because I don't see your name here.

https://getmonero.org/getting-started/donate/hall-of-fame

If you are not satisfied with the pace of development, get on that list along with the rest of us who are heavily invested.
710  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency on: March 16, 2017, 10:08:12 PM

ah so you are waiting to buy at $75? i guess you've waited that too. it didn't took you forever did it? but it toook the price to reach 75 before you thought of buying.  thats not sad at all. of course you get to profit still its now $85 thats decent enough still. congrats icebroker.

I would not buy Dash at any price, because according to the CTO of Coinbase it is "digital trash."

No comment on how your "wait forever" prediction turned out to be wrong in less than a day?   Grin
711  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: March 16, 2017, 09:53:58 PM

I wish I had some Monero  Embarrassed


Yes, it's too bad Dash is known by Coinbase and Kraken to be a scam.

Meanwhile:

A beginner’s guide to Monero
https://medium.com/@linda.xie/a-beginners-guide-to-monero-7a5df2c50ed9
by Linda Xie, Product Manager @Coinbase, and many Coinbase employees
712  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency on: March 16, 2017, 09:44:50 PM
Rebuying DASH sub 76$.

you're going to wait forever.

24hr low: $75
713  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: March 16, 2017, 09:40:34 PM

$50 to $100 easy... especially since we've just seen a shitcoin like Dash do that ON NO REASON WHATSOEVER.




  Cry  Cry You forgot to say its a scam and an instamine.  Cry


714  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: DASH Collapsing Monero UP on: March 16, 2017, 09:29:14 PM
Ok let me tell ya what I think is going to happen.

What sharks are going to buy / exchange for this DASH scam coins ? You guessed it -> BTC / ETH / XMR -> that is why all crypto are going UP right now.


You got that one right.

Digital trash being dumped.  Good crypto being pumped.



Anyone got a cap of today's maximum carnage?   Cool
715  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: March 16, 2017, 09:14:33 PM
That 6,500 loss at the casino last few weeks has put a hurting on me. Smiley Damn why did I miss the initial spike! :|

Sometimes I get the impression that your gambling losses are just another form of boating accident Tongue

"Oops, I lost another 5k today at 'the casino.' If only I had bought Monero with the money. But I didn't, just to be clear. Nope nope nope."

I lost all my coins in a casino on a cruise boat that sank.



 Cry
716  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency on: March 16, 2017, 05:29:06 PM
LOL!!!  For all you DASH haters, aka Monerons'.

https://youtu.be/P2eNMqilH6A


LOL "I don't know all the details about the instamine..."

Who is this derp?  He doesn't address any of the reasons vertoe gave for leaving the project other than admit he dumped after the Generic Detergent Rebrand Fiasco.  It's like he's never heard of the word "decentralized."

i left because i disagree darkcoin or however it will be called next year is not a decentralized entity. it never was but i ignored it as long as darkcoin was following the same path i was following.

this currency is lead by a single person. darkcoin is like an old conservative company with strong hierarchical comamnd structures and a single person on the top of the pyramid. evan duffield. the rebranding using a detergent name was just a step forward in creating something like apple or paypal.

fuck this i tell you. what we need is a trustless, decentralized and anonymous currency. darkcoin is not decentralized as it still relies on a single person. and this reaches deep into the code base.

the core devs were just a bunch of volunteers exploited for the big thing.

the extended darkcoin team was the same with even a lower place to sit on that pyramid. and what was the darkcoin foundation again? right, something to reserve some rights on some names and collect money. who nominated and voted for the foundation board? who does even know who are these guys? how did we learn about the foundation? from local news papers!

the team listings kept counting names of people nobody ever noticed before. and they never committed anything visible to the community or the repository. and i was spending 25 hours a day monitory everything that happened in the darkcoin community for more than a year.

the things going on here are fishy, intransparent and rely on a single entity.

i will get out and and will contribute to something decentralized
and anonymous. i always hoped darkcoin could fill that void. i cant blame anyone to stay with this project. you are probably investors trying to win a gold donkey. or you are simply trying to exploit every possible vector of profit in the coins space. whatever. you are not here because darkcoin is something it claims to be.

if you disagree with my statement above, i dont care, but answer that simple question: what if evan duffield suddenly announces he quits the project tomorrow morning?

DASH - the Original and Biggest Scam of all - I mean Paycoin was a $20,000,000 scam and these guys with Dash are cashing out "Interest" daily -- this will definitely top the Paycoin Scam

Princess Meow-meow's completely justified contempt for this buffoon is so palpable you can feel it emanating from the screen as she throws shade.   Cheesy



I also recommend this Golden Donkey Classic:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FG39wNrLoec

"Today we're going to buy some Darkcoins on Cryptsy.com!" <--- ROFL
717  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency on: March 16, 2017, 08:02:43 AM

28 percent of all DASH currently in existence was mined in a single day.

there was no relaunch despite the evident issues resulting from the massive instamine that created almost 2 million Darkcoin on the first day.

Looks like the mainstream is noticing DASH and is also going to be asking the tough questions of Evan and co.

Thank goodness Bitcoin Magazine and NASDAQ are exposing the Dash scam before it does any more harm.
718  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: THE RISE AND RISE OF MONERO on: March 16, 2017, 07:36:22 AM
encryption is

Stopped reading right there.

You are the last person I'd listen to about "encryption."



Cryptography has never been a significant part of cryptocurrency - even though it may share the first few letters. It works on a system of digital signatures.



It would seem that you actually do not understand what cryptography is in the modern sense.

Compared to you, even Tante is Alan Bloody Turing.   Cheesy
719  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: March 16, 2017, 07:12:30 AM
the purpose of this Epic Pump is intended to "buy legitimacy" for the Dash coin project AT EVEN A VERY EXPENSIVE MARKET MANIPULATION PRICE just because a go-for-broke Hail Mary Pass *will* be necessary if it's going to survive?

In other words:

1. The Master Dashers use up all their firepower ammo in this epic mother of all pumps JUST TO GET their coin UP in market cap rating to #3
2. The TIMING of this just when Bitcoin is going thru the worst point of its scaling political problems is "interesting" to say the least
3. Achieving #3 Market Cap Position, Dash gains very valuable media attention and Internet "chatter" - "success breeds success!" in theory
4. This apparent "victory" of DASH as "King of Alts" as "Bitcoin 2.0" then leads to (they hope?) actual MERCHANT ADOPTION...Huh
5. Merchant adoption provides users someplace to actually spend their Dash at faster and cheaper transactions than FAILING BITCOIN can do!!
6. Virtuous-Cycle of #3 to #4 to #5 continues a while (they hope?)
7. Finally... number #6 goes on long enough to take on its own life BEFORE THE PUMPERS run out of FUEL and the whole efforts crashes and burns...?

Is it really just a Poloniex-based, simple P&D operation as seen before, but just THIS TIME on a larger scale than's ever been attempted previously??

The Dash scam won't even come close to touching Pirate's record for BTC lost in a HYIP P&D.

All that you say is true, and more.

Take what you wrote and magnify it by the effort Roger Ver is putting into making Bitcoin look bad via shitcoin jesusing.

He's pumping Dash because he needs it to take as much of the oxygen out of Bitcoin's room as possible.

Pumping Dash feeds Ver's false narrative about 'zomg Bitcoin is loosing precious retail coffee transactions!!121!.'   Roll Eyes
720  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency on: March 15, 2017, 08:28:42 PM
Coming Soon to Dash:

COLLATERALIZED MINING



Moar Ponzilicious goodness!

Now Miners must also help artificially pump demand for Dash, just for the privilege of helping secure the network.

What a great way to create a huge disincentive for anyone to contribute their hashpower.

What's next, requiring regular users who want to send or receive transactions to "lock in" a certain amount of Dash?   Grin

Oh I know, let's also require posts on the Dash Slack and Forum to "lock in" a certain amount of Dash!

Ponzify All The Things!!!   Cool

Thats not a bad idea, you'd have to buy some Dash to keep trolling us Cheesy

Please do not quote the morons.

I know you mean well, but I'll quote whatever I like, cheers

Why is it so hard to have an intelligent conversation about Dash's collateralized mining feature?

Is there any particular reason you guys are trying so hard to avoid discussing it?

If collateralized mining is such a great idea, why the reluctance to engage in a conversation about it?

Why not move the discussions to other platforms outside of the Bitcoin echo chambers? The reason Dash is about to hit $20 is becaue we all have let the scam build up to this level. And it's up to us as community members to shut it down before alot of people lose alot of money...

More on the subject: https://steemit.com/cryptocurrency/@thedashguy/warning-why-i-don-t-trust-the-price-of-dash-nor-the-community-be-careful-folks-invest-wisely-diversify

We can do both.  I'll fight the Dash scam here in the belly of the beast and others may follow suit at less carcinogenic venues.

Your post is a wake up call.  We who have been fighting the Dash scam since it was small have been numbed by the years and grown callous to the implications of allowing it to metastasize into a >$100M Ponzi nearly the size of Litecoin.

This latest pump will draw in a new generation of bagholders who need to be informed of Dash's shady history, bad crypto, centralization, unworkable Proof of Ping, low bus factor, etc.

Usually an investment product such as Masternodes must by law disclose the risks involved.  Despite meeting all four prongs of the Howey Test, Dash fails to disclose the significant (ie overwhelming) risks involved in attaining the high yields Masternodes provide.

Instead of responsible disclosure, Dash indulges in OneCoin and PayCoin style multi-level marketing (MLM) of blue-sky investment.

Dash follows a long line of charlatans promising something for nothing.  The only difference is that instead of free energy or perpetual motion, Dash advertises Masternodes as magical money generating machines (Evan The Instaminers' golden donkey emulation software).

Dash is skin cancer.  It's an ugly, unhealthy blot on the face of the crypto community.  If we don't cry fraud when we see Dash's fraud then we are frauds.
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