If you're very serious with investing in the dice sites, I suggest you to find out the owners of the dicesite on this forum.Usually the people who opened the thread of a new dice site are the owners and send them a personal message.Even if they're not taking investments listed officially on their website but if you have something good to offer they might just work out a deal for you.
That is too risky, a lot of gambling sites, specially dice sites were scams in the past and it's very risky to invest in a new site without any kind of safety and you won't win more than you would investing in the other well known casinos. |
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I don't know what you get from my last post but let me explain you once more.
If people create new accounts and post shit they dont get PAID . SIMple
my point was people are posting shit because they have a goal of 100 posts a week and they try to reach that no matter what they post.
Now I am not saying anything about the limits here
But now as the criteria is high quality post = high pay and not more post = more pay , so now they try to post quality cause it forces them to ,
Think of a HERO guy getting 0.00025 per post ,he will be left with no choice than to improve the quality of his posts to get paid HIGH .
Well, isn't that what fixed campaigns are for? Well the post quality doesn't have to be great but I'd say fixed campaign participants have by far the best post quality. well No, you can say that fixed campaign posters are better than pay per posts one's ,but you can see many people making 90% of the posts on the last day of the week. also , this is a waste of money for the campaign owner's if they don't know why they are giving money to people who dont have the ability to think and make a logical /helpful or a wanting post. I am personally not a racist and i wouldn't care if it is broken english or broken japanese but it should have content in it . If you are posting the same thing again and again with the best possible english at present time ,It is still spam or posted to make some buck's. The only problem with your idea is that campaigns pay more to higher rank simply because your signature can have more things, background, links, etc etc. They just simply have to take care of their participants, if they post shit kick them out, problem solved. |
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Bitcoin and PayPal are essentially on par at the moment. The only difference is that PayPal may be a tad faster, and Bitcoin can appreciate in price. It really depends on what you want and what to spend your funds on.
the difference is that one is expensive as hell, the other save you money when purchasing something while increasing its value over time(i don't care about the haters saying that btc will die or trash liek that, because they have sold at $10), this is big difference for me also they are equal in speed, actually bitcoin is faster, when i received for example, my money back froma purchase because of a refund, i've waited days to see it in my paypal account, especially on weekend, not so much with bitcoin... Yes this main difference of less fees associated with bitcoin will make it as a replacement for Paypal in near future. Even both are in equal speed, with bitcoin we can enjoy the liberality of owning our wealth. With Paypal some one else handles our money. You still don't understand that you are comparing a currency (bitcoins) to a service (paypal) Of course you own your money because bitcoin is a currency, paypal works with currencies but it's not a currency. Why we not compare these two? Both works online and used to send and receive money. Bitcoin is the system which deals with the unit which is also called bitcoins where as Paypal is a service provider which can deal with any fiat currencies. Paypal may freeze your fiats but bitcoin will never do that. I love bitcoin. Because paypal is a service that uses lots of currencies, it's not fair to compare both when paypal uses dollars and euros which are currencies spread through every country in the world, there is no way for bitcoin to compete with that right now or in 10 years. then compare it to the blockchain which use a lot of currencies, like many altcoin, yesh each of those are working on its own fork but it should be fine to compare the two and you're wrong bitcoin can already compete with paypal at least when compared to one currency, like the usd, in regard to the TX volume Nope, because the tx volume is the volume of ALL transactions, meaning people sending bitcoins to their own wallets, to exchanges, from exchanges to their wallets, etc etc. Paypal volume it's entirely just buy/sell transactions of goods so you can't compare the two unless you have the volume of transactions that are actually involved in buying something. |
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The site looks great but why did you call it speeddice? I tried the auto betting option with the speed option activated and it didn't seem that fast. I have seen sites way faster than that even instantly, I was just wondering. Nevertheless the site looks really good and everything responds well.
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Bitcoin and PayPal are essentially on par at the moment. The only difference is that PayPal may be a tad faster, and Bitcoin can appreciate in price. It really depends on what you want and what to spend your funds on.
the difference is that one is expensive as hell, the other save you money when purchasing something while increasing its value over time(i don't care about the haters saying that btc will die or trash liek that, because they have sold at $10), this is big difference for me also they are equal in speed, actually bitcoin is faster, when i received for example, my money back froma purchase because of a refund, i've waited days to see it in my paypal account, especially on weekend, not so much with bitcoin... Yes this main difference of less fees associated with bitcoin will make it as a replacement for Paypal in near future. Even both are in equal speed, with bitcoin we can enjoy the liberality of owning our wealth. With Paypal some one else handles our money. You still don't understand that you are comparing a currency (bitcoins) to a service (paypal) Of course you own your money because bitcoin is a currency, paypal works with currencies but it's not a currency. Why we not compare these two? Both works online and used to send and receive money. Bitcoin is the system which deals with the unit which is also called bitcoins where as Paypal is a service provider which can deal with any fiat currencies. Paypal may freeze your fiats but bitcoin will never do that. I love bitcoin. Because paypal is a service that uses lots of currencies, it's not fair to compare both when paypal uses dollars and euros which are currencies spread through every country in the world, there is no way for bitcoin to compete with that right now or in 10 years. I doubt the existence of Paypal in next 2 years. Because there is no need of Paypal kind of services with higher fees and often freezing our funds. Trusting a third party for just money transfer is a unwanted thing and no one will go for it when we have bitcoin in main stream in next 2 years. Yes bitcoin will wipe out Paypal or western union kind of money transferring systems same like Internet did for our traditional post office systems. They have only once chance for their survival is adopting bitcoin with their existing infrastructure. It may help them to continue their services. Yes this must be a adopt or die kind of situations for Paypal. When bitcoin goes into main stream what is the need of paypal with many restrictions. People will go with easy and friendly services like bitcoin not with a rude one. Nah, I doubt that very much, you guys always like to be optimistic about bitcoin but you have to be realistic, there is no way in only 2 years bitcoin will be used more than paypal. Most people simply don't even know about bitcoin and the price is still super volatile it's hard to imagine most business accepting it. |
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In bitcoin world, a lot of things can happen in 2,32 days.
Yeah, maybe it reaches 1.000$ in 3-4 months and a few days before the halving the price goes down, at that point I doubt people would care that much since the price already peaked 1k |
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topic, thanks for answering.
- we want the flow of bitcoin , we want more and more people to try bitcoin , more new people means the better future for bitcoin , Many people here are not buying bitcoins but want to try it we this forum provides a mechanism to them to get some fractions so that they can try it for free and believe that yes bitcoin is NextGen . -Sites are Advertising here and paying to their advertisers for advertising them , This forum is getting Traffic of unique IPs , and we want all this as we are bitcoin enthusiast. all fine with me except the stuff with spamming bullshit for 1-10 cent per spam post. there are a lot more possibilities to aquire btc without fiat then a sig-campaign. pretty sure most of the ppl doin this are kids or have no jobs and are sitting the whole day at home. it's more like 30 cents per post, as long as they increase the discussion they are fine, if they are simply off-topic or reiterating then action should be taken, funny thing is that i've spotted some trollers and spammer that do not carry signature, but no one talk about those users ever... I believe this forum will lose maybe half of their members if signature campaign will be banned here.
you're generous, i think it's more about 70% -80% I doubt it, when did this forum reach maximum of people online, in 2013. There were no signature campaigns back there. If people come here just to join a signature campaign I'm fine with them leaving the forum but I'm pretty sure that 90% of people who joined sig campaigns were already participating in the forum without one. |
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Probably the next one would be "Mythical".
I like the sound of it. Ancient after thinking does kinda make the account sound old not special. Mythical has kinda a more magical sounding. I can only wonder what activity for it would be. You would have to have it very high to make it so special. I like the random factor to, so random just so high very few would ever get it. I think it would be fun if only a handful ever got it the activity level was so high. They should just double with every rank in my opinion. Makes it easier and doubling each time makes the ranks much difficult to achieve whilst keeping some standard/order. Legendary should become 960 and then Mythical 1920. When you have 1337 posts your post number becomes leet, right? We should make it that when you reach 420 the post number transforms into weed master. |
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The UI is pretty crappy (No offense admins).
Nevertheless, they are working on a totally new UI. the question is, when this new design is going to come. I've been waiting months xD
When I first saw this site, I was pissed off at how small the "home", "help", "search", etc buttons were... But I eventually got used to them.
Agreed, the interface is pretty bad. Maybe the admins could put in a special page where you can personally customise the interface? Or maybe something like the prime dice style, slanted and boxy but with a light colour palate. I personally like the interface and I couldn't care less about the image of the interface, it's a forum afterall there is no need for fancy graphics or anything like that besides there is a new forum coming soon if you didn't know which will have a better interface and will be better overall. |
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Scams are not moderated, the section was put in place after the ponzis made the rest of the gambling section useless. Edit: The rule(s) for a sub section are essentially "have enough threads/posts to make it a dominant topic in an existing section". E.g. blockchain.info might get a seperate section if the support posts are too much for the service discussion section. Might "8ball of Meth and Rusty AK47 Gift Set" get a separate section if the support posts are too much for the goods section? If not, why  ...I think Investor based is a useful sub forum. ...
As useful as any ghetto, i suppose. The problem's the public face of Bitcoin is now a ghetto. Grills are laughing. The sub forum was made to gather all ponzi scams in one place so people know that those ''games'' there are definitely ponzi and if someone tries to promote a ponzi somewhere else the thread will get moved to the investor based games. There is no way to stop ponzies from showing up, if mods deleted them people would just promote them without telling people they are ponzies so we would actually create more scams. For the time being, I'll overlook the likelihood of you posting just for the sake of getting a few satoshi from your 'provably fair casino' sig, and explain to you why every forum on the internet doesn't have a subforum dedicated to ponzis, illegal gambling, or selling shitty drugs, rusty AKs and child porn. You ready? Here we go: Because, surprisingly, yes, yes, you can stop those things. In fact, it is the duty of the forum operator to stop such things. Even 4chan stops such things, why can't thermos? I will explain you something, theymos is the owner and he can do whatever the fuck he wants and if you don't agree you can leave, no one is forcing you to stay here. Maybe other forums do not have a sub forum dedicated to ponzis BUT I'm sure they have people promoting ponzis secretly trying to make them look legit, how is the admin supposed to stop those ponzis? You can't until you know for sure it's a ponzi, instead with the sub forum, ponzi operators come clean and just by posting their site, system, there they are admiting it's a ponzi, people know the risks. |
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Bitcoin and PayPal are essentially on par at the moment. The only difference is that PayPal may be a tad faster, and Bitcoin can appreciate in price. It really depends on what you want and what to spend your funds on.
the difference is that one is expensive as hell, the other save you money when purchasing something while increasing its value over time(i don't care about the haters saying that btc will die or trash liek that, because they have sold at $10), this is big difference for me also they are equal in speed, actually bitcoin is faster, when i received for example, my money back froma purchase because of a refund, i've waited days to see it in my paypal account, especially on weekend, not so much with bitcoin... Yes this main difference of less fees associated with bitcoin will make it as a replacement for Paypal in near future. Even both are in equal speed, with bitcoin we can enjoy the liberality of owning our wealth. With Paypal some one else handles our money. You still don't understand that you are comparing a currency (bitcoins) to a service (paypal) Of course you own your money because bitcoin is a currency, paypal works with currencies but it's not a currency. Why we not compare these two? Both works online and used to send and receive money. Bitcoin is the system which deals with the unit which is also called bitcoins where as Paypal is a service provider which can deal with any fiat currencies. Paypal may freeze your fiats but bitcoin will never do that. I love bitcoin. Because paypal is a service that uses lots of currencies, it's not fair to compare both when paypal uses dollars and euros which are currencies spread through every country in the world, there is no way for bitcoin to compete with that right now or in 10 years. |
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Bitcoin and PayPal are essentially on par at the moment. The only difference is that PayPal may be a tad faster, and Bitcoin can appreciate in price. It really depends on what you want and what to spend your funds on.
the difference is that one is expensive as hell, the other save you money when purchasing something while increasing its value over time(i don't care about the haters saying that btc will die or trash liek that, because they have sold at $10), this is big difference for me also they are equal in speed, actually bitcoin is faster, when i received for example, my money back froma purchase because of a refund, i've waited days to see it in my paypal account, especially on weekend, not so much with bitcoin... Yes this main difference of less fees associated with bitcoin will make it as a replacement for Paypal in near future. Even both are in equal speed, with bitcoin we can enjoy the liberality of owning our wealth. With Paypal some one else handles our money. You still don't understand that you are comparing a currency (bitcoins) to a service (paypal) Of course you own your money because bitcoin is a currency, paypal works with currencies but it's not a currency. |
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But if you have 10 bitcoin and a satoshi base bet, and you bet on let's say... fastdice for a week, you could make more than a bitcoin!  If you have 10 btc and want to make a bitcoin, you could simply make a x1.1 bet with all your bitcoin. It would take only a second (rather than a week), and has a success rate of 90% (much higher than the chance of not having one single long red streak for betting billions of bets). I too don't quite get the logic behind it ,It is always better to do one single max bet. In fact there was a guy on Pd who use to make 10 BTC bet on 90% once in while and i have seen him winning 4-5 times. No, it is not better and it has been proved that there are methods to increase your odds by 0.1% posted by dooglus: ''For an example of a better strategy, try: bet 0.5 at 33% if you win, you get 99/33 = 3x, so you get 1.5 back, a profit of 1 - you've doubled your money if you lose, bet the other 0.5 at 24.75% if you win, you get 99/24.75 = 4x, so you get 2 back - you've doubled your money the only way it goes wrong is if you lose both the 33% and the 24.75% - the chance of that is (1-0.33) * (1-0.2475) = 0.504175 so the chance of success is 1 - 0.504175 = 0.495825 = 49.5825% - a fraction higher than 49.5'' |
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the best collateral would be an account, it's easy to transfer the ownership and can be sold quite easily as well, but for 5 btc you need something like legendary with trust or hero with many trust
The best collateral would be an altcoin. I have seen plenty of loan requests using domains as a collateral and most of them are not accepted because the user is offering a shitty domain, if you can prove your site is worth 5btc or more then I'm sure someone will. Why do you need the 5 bitcoins in the first place? not my site, but my account, i've made 20 btc with this account, so yes it's worth much more than a mere 1 btc and no, altcoin ar enot a valid collateral they depreciate very easily, and a very unstable, i would not take any altcoin as a collateral not even litecoin instead an hero account is still worth at least 0.5 even today Your personal opinion doesn't matter man, stable altcoins are considered as the best form of collateral, you would need to use 110-120% of the value of the loan but anyone would accept altcoins before btc accounts or other type of digital goods, inform yourself better please. there ar eno stable altcoin, they are all more unstable than bitcoin itself, which is already a risk if you want collateral for a long time instead an account always retain it's value no matter how time will pass, an hero account could have been sold for 0.5 1 year ago and can be sold still for 0.5 today From the stickied post on the Lending section: What is good collateral for a loan? (From best to worst) #1: Alternate stable and well acknowledged cryptocurrencies #2: Securities and shares such as TAT.ASICMINER #3: Anything that can be traded in somewhere for a secure cash/Bitcoin value quickly #4: Physical items such as an iPad As I said altcoins are the best collateral, btc accounts are good too but I'm sure any lender would accept altcoins before btc accounts. |
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The place I like to invest is ore-mine.org. They rent out their mining equipment in the form of a game, and you can sign up for a free mine. Any deposited funds receive a 2.32% monthly interest rate and you receive 8% of all affiliate earnings. Additionally, you can receive a free income, or choose to upgrade, and receive more on a tri-daily basis with an ROI of about 3 months. The site has been up for almost two years, with over 1700 BTC paid, and about 200 BTC affiliates. Use the link below if you want to check it out!  Ore mine is a ponzi, ponzi schemes are not good investments, they are scams, you are obviously advertising them because you want refferals but no, don't do it. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=759702.0 Investor based games = ponzi. Hahaha, yeah it's called an affiliate campaign. I'm not sure exactly how the ore-mine.org site works but it seems there's a pretty high level of satisfaction. By the way, "investment" in general is gambling, so I guess ore-mine.org is similar in this regard. maybe they are not scammer because the return is very low unless you invest a fortune, or because they scam only those that have invested a high amoun, this is another common strategy among ponzi Ore-mine is a ponzi and they are not hiding it. They posted the thread in the investor based games. The fact that they are paying means shit, you never know when will they run away with everyone's mining, if you ''invest'' there you are desperate and if you are promoting a link to a scam site you are a scammer to me. |
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I find Vod's negative feedback for fwdxlsh kind of unwarranted, not that my opinion matters here. I've found some of Vod's reasoning to be lacking in the past as well and have disagreed with him.
However, I think he does more good than harm here, just as Viagra and Botox do more good than harm. Or Prozac.
This is not to say that the world would be infinitely shittier without Vod, or that Vod is Zod or God, but it's better to have him around. Like having a tarantula around to take care of the cockroaches--or whatever.
Fwdxdlhz or whatever his name is deserved the negative trust. You can see that other trusted people left him negative trust ratings aswell. He is just a troll, just look at his posts, he should be banned not neg trusted. He obviously has an alt and started trolling for some reason. |
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If you're going for bitcoin, that's an investment itself if you're just going to let it sit there.
It's best to do that with bitcoin if you only have a few
Waht do you mean with few bitcoin less than 10 bitcoins? Because I have that I just invest. I can make mij 10 BTC to 15 bitcoin. there are still risks when investing 10 BTC. I suggest holding it instead or using those 10 to trade around for profit  Agree. And most likely the price of Bitcoin would rise to the moon when the next halving comes. With this that is about to occur, you could expect nothing but to make good profit if you invest into it and hold them for the long term. Noo. Nothing major is going to happen with the halving, everyone wants the price to go up but the truth is that, like litecoin, the price won't suffer any major changes. Maybe the difficulty will drop before the halving but other than that you can't expect the price to go up, if it goes up it would be just because of the speculation. |
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You're free to report them here. At any rate, I believe I made myself clear when I said I will not be actively updating the list as hilarious is their new campaign manager, so report them to him : As the campaign has stated that it will be keeping the post quality in check now onwards and any new spammer I find will be personally PMed and added to the list, I will be keeping the spammers' list as a shame list and ban consideration for mods/admins but from now on and this thread will be majorly used to display the next in line spam campaigns which currently seem to be bit-vest and 777coin(nearly the same) and bit-mixer.
Lastly, his posts do seem more constructive than yours when I added you to the list. Basically what mexxer said. It seems like you think I was hunting you or something, I bumped into your posts by accident, I knew about this thread and reported you here and anyone else who I randomly encountered. |
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u can buy pretty much everything with BTC these days ...
Not even close. I would like to be able to buy everything that you can buy with paypal, it is a long way until it gets there but hopefully one day it happens when the price gets more stable perhaps. |
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A common theme among the people who are voicing their opinion against the sale of forum accounts is that the sale of accounts leads to scams. I would however question that conclusion and ask how many scams (both as a percentage of account sales and as a percentage of forum scams) are from sold accounts and how many of those were made possible (or at least aided) by the fact that it was a sold account. I would believe for that number to actually be quite low and in the grand scheme of things, allowing the sale of accounts probably actually decreases overall scamming activity because it gives people who are desperate for money one additional way to get money that does not involve stealing from others.
Of course you are going to defend it but you were selling DT accounts too as far as I know, would you say those accounts can't be used to scam? How do you know? A lot of proven scammers just buy another account to keep scamming, is not like people who are desperate for money would buy accounts to scam. I did not say that accounts can't be used to scam, I said that accounts (DT accounts included) generally are not used to scam. Like I said, give examples of the kinds of scams that you claim are the result of sold accounts, otherwise you are just making things up So why would anyone buy a DT member account if it's not to scam? And don't tell me it's to do business because everyone started with 0 trust accounts and they have been doing business just fine. |
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