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821  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: nullc reddit account suspended 2/23/17 What's the story? on: February 26, 2017, 07:57:56 AM
I'm more OK with the nullc ban than I thought I'd be.  Let them stew in ignorant rage; Conde Naste doesn't deserve your free content.

The problem with your sentiments is that nullc is the best judge of how to spend his time in the most valuable way, and he choose to spend time on reddit dispelling ignorance.  Also when such a high profile and well regarded dev gets treated like this it deters other talent (this effects the protocol negatively).

The problem with your sentiments is that I'm the best judge of how I wish react to an event such as nullc's banning.

If you think handing the rbtc jackals ammo and a scalp by being spear-phished and goaded into a trap is a desirable outcome, that's fine.

I'd prefer gmax remain there dispelling ignorance, which the source of my criticism of the specific *subset* of his actions which resulted in the suspension.

That's not trying to micromanage "his time" it's just pointing out that the (final) trollhunting incident was an egregiously unforced error.

You weren't there for this thread, so it's understandable why the final chapter of the saga is taking you by surprise.


We need you on Reddit fighting the good fight.  It's ridiculous you're handing the r/btc turds ammo.

always avoid posting any emails since the rules are nonsense, we can't afford gmax getting banned

avoid posting any emails
822  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: So who the hell is still supporting BU? on: February 26, 2017, 07:37:33 AM
"5nm is far too close" ... for ... what exactly? What is it about 5nm that makes it "too close"? What occurs, or stops occurring at 5nm?

Is this a trick question?  Casual checking in...  Undecided

At some point down there you get too much electrical leakage to carry a signal.

Classical mechanics break down as quantum effects begin to appear.

Registers begin to act too much like qubits for digital reliability, which requires static discrete states (1 or 0).

The easiest gains were at the beginning.  Moore was observing the harvest of the low hanging fruit, nothing more.

Now it takes more capital to build a modern fab than it took to go to the moon.
823  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: nullc reddit account suspended 2/23/17 What's the story? on: February 26, 2017, 03:10:34 AM
No intent to (unfairly/unduly  Cheesy) smear you, but I haven't seen definitive proof your first suspension was for Gavin's email and not harassing Frap.doc (or both).
Would you like me to post screenshots of the admin's comments?  (I'd prefer to to edit out their account name so no one harasses them; or only share it with you privately)

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BTW, the post at https://www.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/5g3weu/blockstreams_creator_changes_bitcoin_network/dap9jyr/ is gone, just like Every. Single. Post. linking Frap.doc's handle to his true name.
Had nothing to do with frapp, the post was harassing me by one of the zillion and one rbtc harassers. I think that one might have been go bitcoin but I'm not sure. In any case, frapp's name nor pseudonym were not mentioned there.

I'll take your word about the admin comments.

It just seemed ambiguous as to whether your initial ban was exclusively for the singular Gavin email post or whether that was the last straw given the long history of Frap.doc controversies (he has his own filter, lawl) context.

I'm more OK with the nullc ban than I thought I'd be.  Let them stew in ignorant rage; Conde Naste doesn't deserve your free content.

The Grand Schism will be decided at the protocol and socioeconomic levels, not on the field of subreddit drama.

Now you have more time to out-develop the hell out of BU by making Core even more of a rapidly moving target.

Keep piling on great new features (esp. ones invaluable for miners) faster than BU can copy (and perhaps break) them.



Go Core go!   Cool
824  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: nullc reddit account suspended 2/23/17 What's the story? on: February 25, 2017, 07:47:01 AM
GMAX was already on double-secret probation, having been suspended for doxing/harassment/witch-hunting once before (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1704972.0).
Please don't smear me-- I was suspended before because BitcoinXio reported me to the admins for "doxing" for posting a github commit message, which worked for a bit because Reddit staff didn't know that a commit message was not private personal information. I was unsuspended when they figured it out, and the post in question is visible today: https://www.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/5g3weu/blockstreams_creator_changes_bitcoin_network/dap9jyr/

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Their site and their liability,

Due to s230 they have basically no (legal) liability for material posted by their users-- even if their action were to rise to the level of recklessness, they would still have no liability.

But indeed, I know about Reddit's rules; but the rules do not prohibit posting material that the person it was about requested be posted, and the person in question had already posted a link to a page they put up with their email address previously.  (Besides, if I'd thought to remove it and done so, it would have invalidated the DKIM signature on the message).  And as I said in my post above-- it's their right to have foolish policies if they choose to. (Ultimately, I think that letting me address libelous comments by one on one refuting them is ultimately a time and trouble saver for reddit, but nothing requires that they agree).

Reddit doesn't really have an appeals process as far as I can tell: All you do within the process is provide information to the specific administrator that they made an error.

No intent to (unfairly/unduly  Cheesy) smear you, but I haven't seen definitive proof your first suspension was for Gavin's email and not harassing Frap.doc (or both).

Fair point about s230, however Reddit still has the liability of dealing with potentially horrible PR if something bad happened IRL as a result of their posters running amok.  There's also the liability of having to go to court to clear their name under s230 ('the process is the punishment').

The 100% ludicrous Gavin email thing was clearly the rbtc turds reaching, but nevertheless they drew blood and that lesson wasn't learned.

from now on I would always avoid posting any emails since the rules are nonsense, we can't afford gmax getting banned because we need people that know how bitcoin works to continue posting on public forums.

BTW, the post at https://www.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/5g3weu/blockstreams_creator_changes_bitcoin_network/dap9jyr/ is gone, just like Every. Single. Post. linking Frap.doc's handle to his true name.
825  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin's Great Schism - A Compendium on: February 25, 2017, 07:28:09 AM
Adding:

5/11/15
Bitcoin faces a crossroads, needs an effective decision-making process
https://freedom-to-tinker.com/2015/05/11/bitcoin-faces-a-crossroads-needs-an-effective-decision-making-process/

7/28/15
Analyzing the 2013 Bitcoin fork: centralized decision-making saved the day
http://freedom-to-tinker.com/2015/07/28/analyzing-the-2013-bitcoin-fork-centralized-decision-making-saved-the-day/

8/19/15
Adam Back Says the Bitcoin Fork Is a Coup
http://spectrum.ieee.org/tech-talk/computing/networks/the-bitcoin-for-is-a-coup

8/8/16
Segregated Witness and aligning economic incentives with resource costs
https://segwit.org/segregated-witness-and-aligning-economic-incentives-with-resource-costs-7d987b135c00

1/19/17
Why Segregated Witness will make 2017 Bitcoin’s best year yet
https://segwit.org/why-segragated-witness-will-make-2017-bitcoins-best-year-yet-527e391c93cb

1/21/17
The SegWit Debate
https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/5pcar2/the_segwit_debate/

1/27/17
How Bitcoin Unlimited Users May End Up on Different Blockchains
https://bitcoinmagazine.com/articles/how-bitcoin-unlimited-users-may-end-different-blockchains/

2/1/17
Why Bitcoin Unlimited’s “Emergent Consensus” Is a Gamble
https://bitcoinmagazine.com/articles/why-bitcoin-unlimiteds-emergent-consensus-gamble/

2/5/17
Happy Bitcoin Coder
https://medium.com/@nicolasdorier/happy-bitcoin-coder-2def905d5929

2/9/17
Money, blockchains, and social scalability
https://unenumerated.blogspot.jp/2017/02/money-blockchains-and-social-scalability.html

2/10/17
Scaling Bitcoin: Reflections from the DCG Portfolio
https://medium.com/@DCGco/scaling-bitcoin-reflections-from-the-dcg-portfolio-35b9a065b2a4

2/11/17
The DCG is not Bitcoin. You are Bitcoin
https://hackernoon.com/the-dcg-is-not-bitcoin-you-are-bitcoin-c57e2d2ce846

2/12/17
Complete Review on SegWit vs. Bitcoin Unlimited: Arguments and Clarity
https://cointelegraph.com/news/complete-review-on-segwit-vs-bitcoin-unlimited-arguments-and-clarity

1/21/17
The SegWit Debate
https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/5pcar2/the_segwit_debate/

1/27/17
How Bitcoin Unlimited Users May End Up on Different Blockchains
https://bitcoinmagazine.com/articles/how-bitcoin-unlimited-users-may-end-different-blockchains/

1/29/17
bitcoin.com loses 13.2BTC trying to fork the network: Untested and buggy BU creates an oversized block, Many BU node banned, the HF fails
https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/5qwtr2/bitcoincom_loses_132btc_trying_to_fork_the/

1/30/17
LOL! Miners running latest BU need to set their max block size lower than Core to avoid mining invalid blocks
https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/5qxrnt/lol_miners_running_latest_bu_need_to_set_their/

1/31/17
So who the hell is still supporting BU?
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1771911.0

1/31/17
Statement regarding excessive block by Bitcoin Unlimited software 29 Jan 2017
https://bitco.in/forum/threads/buir-2017-01-29-statement-regarding-excessive-block-by-bitcoin-unlimited-software-29-jan-2017.1790/

2/3/17
Bitcoin Market Needs Big Blocks, Says Founder of BTC.TOP Mining Pool
https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/bitcoin-market-needs-big-blocks-says-founder-btc-top-mining-pool/

2/3/17
Segregated Witness (SW) vs Bitcoin Unlimited (BU)
https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/5rs55l/segregated_witness_sw_vs_bitcoin_unlimited_bu/

2/4/17
Gavin Andresen supporting an attack on the minority chain in case BU fork with majority hashpower
https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/5s2c2z/gavin_andresen_supporting_an_attack_on_the/

2/10/17
Scaling Bitcoin: Reflections from the DCG Portfolio
https://medium.com/@DCGco/scaling-bitcoin-reflections-from-the-dcg-portfolio-35b9a065b2a4

2/11/17
The DCG is not Bitcoin. You are Bitcoin
https://hackernoon.com/the-dcg-is-not-bitcoin-you-are-bitcoin-c57e2d2ce846

2/12/17
Complete Review on SegWit vs. Bitcoin Unlimited: Arguments and Clarity
https://cointelegraph.com/news/complete-review-on-segwit-vs-bitcoin-unlimited-arguments-and-clarity

2/22/17
BTCC’s Bobby Lee: Why Chinese Bitcoin Miners Are Not Happy With SegWit
https://cointelegraph.com/news/btccs-bobby-lee-why-chinese-bitcoin-miners-are-not-happy-with-segwit

2/23/17
Understanding the risk of BU (bitcoin unlimited)
https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/5vo5wi/understanding_the_risk_of_bu_bitcoin_unlimited/
826  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: nullc reddit account suspended 2/23/17 What's the story? on: February 25, 2017, 06:34:39 AM
Reddit has an especially stupid policy on banning users. Admins go through reports by hand and biases can be very obvious. Reddit isn't open as to how many of their employed have the power to ban users but that number surely must have not grown proportionately to Reddit's growth through the years as the platform is not profitable.

Bans are not questioned and there's no appeal process. Reddit employees with ban powers can ban anyone at their will with nobody being able to question their decision. Witchunts often result unsubstantiated bans in Reddit as the lack of Reddit employees on a payroll just puts pressure on the few ones to keep the platform clean and the majority of users pleases, disregarding free speech.

Bitcoin users really need to move on another sort of forum in order to facilitate better discussions.

You go to war with the forum you have, not the forum you want.

We all knew in advance about Reddit's stupid arbitrary rules.  Their site and their liability, therefore their TOS.  DUH.

GMAX was already on double-secret probation, having been suspended for doxing/harassment/witch-hunting once before (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1704972.0).

There is an appeal process, which GMAX and Roger Ver have previously utilized for reinstatement.  But this may be one toke over the line for Greg.    Sad
827  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Greg Maxwell aka /u/nullc is banned from Reddit on: February 25, 2017, 06:11:54 AM
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Xio is insisting that the ban was due to /u/nullc's 'doxing' of Cypherdoc

Then Xio is being untruthful. (also-- what Doxing? I removed any mention of his name once I found out it even might be against Reddit policy, even though I wasn't linking it to any other account!)


Did you finally get unbanned?

Greg Maxwell aka /u/nullc is now unbanned on Reddit.

Not anymore.  This time it's permanent (hopefully quasi-permanent, like Roger Ver's suspension).

https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/5vuko7/whats_nullc_done_to_get_suspended_this_time/

We tried to avoid this outcome.

We pleaded for GMAX to stop getting involved with petty, vindictive subreddit drama.

We explained he is too valuable (and Reddit rules too arbitrary) to let himself be goaded into any further unwise ad hom ax-grinding.

from now on I would always avoid posting any emails since the rules are nonsense, we can't afford people gmax getting banned because we need people that know how bitcoin works to continue posting on public forums.

We need you on Reddit fighting the good fight.  It's ridiculous you're handing the r/btc turds ammo.

We were both HF customers but at some point our POVs diverged.  Everything I predicted came true.  Nothing you predicted came to pass.

It's not scientific to reject results because they dispute your preconceived ideas.  Two separate court cases now indicate your anti-Hashfast ideas may require recalibration.

That's why risking your Reddit account/reputation just to die on the Frap.doc-owes-me-a-windfall-so-he's-a-public-figure hill of error propagation is so disappointing.

As I already explained, "Cypherdoc values his personal privacy/security and never intended for his handle to be connected to his True Name."  So please stop making him the white whale for your Captain Ahab.

He didn't listen.  For the sake of yet another one of his personal grudges, he doxed a troll and reaped the banhammer.

The Gavinistas found his weakness ("vulgar control freak" aka 'can't admit to being wrong and change his mind') and used it as a crowbar to pry him off Reddit.


They played GMAX like a violin.  Credit where credit is due.   Embarrassed


828  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency on: February 25, 2017, 05:09:11 AM
Looking for info?

I don't know about you, but when I went to grad school they told me I had to provide evidence and documentation to support statements like this, but maybe you missed that day?

P.S. Here's a question that none of you trolls have ever been able to answer: If Evan "clearly" planned the early emission problems and mined tons of Dash early on, then why is he still working on the project? The price of Dash exceeded $11 each in May 2014...if Evan deliberately planned some elaborate scam, then why didn't he sell everything in May 2014 and just disappear, like so many other coin developers have done?

If Dash's instamine was a deliberate scam executed by Evan, WHY is he still working full time developing the coin?

Why?

Yes, clearly:


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The official story about the instamine: https://dashdot.io/alpha/?page_id=118
Evan Duffield:“The instamine happened, there is no one disputing that fact. The crypto-community at large has no problem with this except a few who think it’s trying to be hidden in some way. In fact, I posted multiple times about the instamine, first in “The Birth Of Darkcoin” which is an account of the first few weeks of the launch and the mistakes that were made. Recently I also posted spoke about the Instamine in the video “Virtual Corporation”, which considers the concept that it might have been key to Dash’s success, which I believe now. It’s also important to note, I was working a very challenging day job while working on Dash in the first couple weeks. So I was putting out fires every night, keeping tabs on Dash during the day (while getting yelled at by my boss when he caught me a couple times). Eventually I quit when I got Dash stable enough to work on full time and decided I really wanted to explore what I could do with it. “

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The evidence shows that it was a planned instamine. This wasn't mentioned before launch.
The features of this coin were also not public at launch.
=> Nobody was really interested in the coin at launch, making this instamine more a kind of "stealth launched premine".
In my books, that's a scam.

Please don't ignore the facts:

2013-12-29: 2 guys from Hawk Financial Group, Evan & Kyle, are asking on the Bitcoin Dev mailing list for "1 or 2 really good C++ programmer that is familiar with the bitcoin internals to help with a for-profit startup". They are planning to build a unique coin that is "not just a clone of the original Bitcoin code" but in stead "a merge-mined altcoin that will provide a very useful service to the whole crypto-coin ecosystem". They claim to have "detailed plans on how to implement it".

2014-01-18 There were some issues at launch, so Evan said he would postpone the launch and would "definitely not" launch it in the next hours. But he did launch it a few hours later.

2014-01-19 Xcoin was launched.
This was the emission in the first 72 hours of the coins existence:

This was the emission of the first 100 days:

At the moment, there are about 6 million DASH in circulation. There would be 84 million Xcoins eventually.
Note that in the first hour, 500k Xcoins were mined. Due to the "quick fix" of the bug, not many people expected to launch a few hours after Evan said he would "definitely not" launch in the next hours.

2014-01-19 Right after the launch, there were problems with the window binaries. Evan clearly was mining right from the start, as he offered 5000 Xcoin as a bounty for compiling the binaries.

2014-01-20 After the emission of almost 2 million coins, Evan said that "now that everything is stable, I'll be posting later about the vision of this project and milestones!". Up until this point, only the "X11 hashing algoritm" was a known feature. According to him, it was "time to move on to actually implementing what I set out to do".

2014-01-22 Evan releases his plans for XCoin. At this point, more than 2 million coins were mined.

Xcoin rebranded to Darkcoin and eventually to DASH later on.

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Later on, some contradictions surfaced:

* The emission schedule changed multiple times. The latest we heard is that the number of coins would be somewhere between 14 million and like 16 million DASH.
* Evan said that this project was just a hobby he started while working on a full time job and coded Xcoin in a weekend.
* Evan claims there were hundreds of miners if not thousands when Xcoin launched. Recent investigation showed that there were 124 IP addreses that were mining at the start. 115 of those addresses where Cloudhosting and Dedicated Servers, 9 of them seem to be private/users.106 of them were at Amazon AWS and Microsoft Azure cloud instances.
 
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Conclusions:
*Evan isn't acting alone, he had/has a team behind him right from the start. It wasn't a hobby. he had a plan to make a profit.
*Evan had plans for his coin right from the start, but didn't release them until after the instamine
*1.5 million coins were mined in the first 8 hours. Most of these coin ended up in his (and his friends) hands. It's very likely the 500k in the first hour were only mined by him with cloudhosting services.
*He lowered the emission later on, to make his relative share of coins bigger.

How can this be all an accident (like Evan is always saying) and NOT be intentional?
Evan was looking for c++ devs for a "for profit startup" at the end of 2013 for the launch of an altcoin. Question:

QUESTION:
>How can you make a profit by launching an altcoin (and be sure to be able to pay your devs)?
ANSWER:
>by premining and/or instamining.

How he did it is pretty easy:
*telling people the release would definitely not be in the next couple of hours and after that do launch it a few hours later
*buggy windows binaries
*a "code error" creating 500k coins in the first hour, >1.5 million in the first 8 hours.



=> DASH was clearly a planned instamine (and thus a scam)


This expose of Dash's fully intentional instamine has been noticed by some very famous and influential Bitcoiners!




Tone Vays, Tuur Demeester, and Jeff Garzik are no longer buying the "accidental bug due to incompetence" narrative and now suspect fraud.

Tone Vays is talking about Dash.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VrKU0Ymta-U


Tone Vays used to be a vocal fan of Dash.  In fact, Dash was the *only* altcoin he liked (being a Bitcoin maximalist supremacist).

Then Tone discovered the truth about Dash's indefensible, scummy Instamine and trusted third party Masternode security holes.



Tone is a really cool guy.


Thanks for the info about Dash.

All of that stuff is very important for Dash noobs to learn about and Dash bagholders to remember.
829  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: So who the hell is still supporting BU? on: February 25, 2017, 04:54:49 AM
jbreher, are you suggesting that it's possible to break the laws of physics in order to continue with Moore's law? We're going to build transistors out of something that's smaller than 1 silicon atom, yeah? you're pretty cute yourself, lol

Why, no, Carlton. I am suggesting that your assertion is that we are at the end of Moore's 'law' scaling due to fundamental technological limits in microchip manufacturing is absolute twaddle.

You know there is such a thing as "diminishing marginal returns" right?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diminishing_returns

It's a fundamental principle of economics.  Not sure how you get through life without understanding it.  Free Shit Army member perhaps?

There is also such a thing as Plank length, which puts an absolute limit on how finely the traces of microprocessors may be etched.

Until we can create holographic sub-space zero-point Area51 Bose-Einstein condensate CPUs that run at absolute zero, Moore's law observation will continue to decline in descriptive and predictive power.

I'd give you a link, but don't want to overwhelm your limited capacities with too much new information all at once.   Smiley
830  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | Instamined | Warped Incentive Model | Trash on: February 25, 2017, 04:40:27 AM
Uh oh!  Dash's rally isn't based on actual usage as digital cash.  It's just yet another silly altcoin pump.

But don't take my word for it.

https://twitter.com/ARKblockchain/status/834843279145435137





831  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency on: February 25, 2017, 12:04:17 AM
Congratulations on this epic pump!

What a monumental triumph of Dash's marketing over other coins' technology.


OK, good job on bumping up marketcap while the core and mobile wallets are so buggy they crash or can't IS. 

IS is turned off right now. Check back next week. Hope you did not sale your dash last month but i fear you did.

IS is buggy and broken "turned off right now."

IPv6 is buggy and broken "turned off right now."

RBF/CPFP is buggy and broken "turned off right now."

SEGWIT is buggy and broken "turned off right now."
832  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Not Bitcoin XT on: February 24, 2017, 09:47:05 PM
Is that Marine LePen? 

Why would MLP be salty?  She's leading in the polls.

Only savage-coddling terrorsymp cucks are salty about that fact.

Are you ready for #FREXIT?   Cheesy
833  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: So who the hell is still supporting BU? on: February 24, 2017, 09:29:34 PM
at this point the question should be: who the hell still isn't supporting BU?

The only people who matter, the Core devs, aren't supporting BU.

If the Core devs don't support BU, who is going to fix it when they break something (again)?

And who will import all the nifty new features from Core to BU?

It's like buying a new car and installing a bunch of homespun, amateur "custom" electrical work to support your shitty try-hard stereo/subs/lights.

When you eventually break the basic functionality for the sake of your gimmicks, the dealer is going to laugh in your face when you try to get it fixed under warranty.
834  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency on: February 24, 2017, 09:21:15 PM
Hey Icey! Have you started trolling us on the protocol level yet?

Dont give away too many of the secrets before the fun begins Wink

 Lips sealed  <---(lips sealed)
835  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: February 24, 2017, 09:14:42 PM
A quick 101 on memetics.

A meme dies faster if it's not constantly being reinvigorated and unnecessarily referenced...  particularly by those who want it to die in the first place.

Case study: Some years ago McDonalds launch a press offensive to rid itself of the stigma concerning the so-called "McJob" - to make the case that working at McDonalds is a proper career move and not just some debased stop-gap on the road to something more substantial.

Result: The term "McJob" goes pandemic within the meme-o-sphere, becoming more virulent and stronger than ever before. Before long, even low-grade jobs that have nothing to do with McDonalds are now referred to as McJobs. In response, McDonalds increase the press offensive further, which only makes the situation worse and fans the flames. The McJob meme begins to learn at a geometric rate and becomes self aware at 2:14 a.m. Eastern time, August 29th. In the panic McDonalds tries to pull the plug, but the McJob meme fights back by offering free burgers to all its employees. Credibility is effectively nuked.

Two months ago, Dash was on death's door. It would have stayed that way had peeps not pointed to it's rotting corpse and invited TV cameras over to check out the smell.   Cry Cry Cry

You could have just typed "Streisand Effect" instead of that long boring story about McJobs.

I read Dawkins decades ago and don't need your Memetics 101 lesson.

If we stop calling fraud when we see Dash's ongoing fraud that would made us frauds.

If *you* want to be a fraud, fine.  Have fun.

But stop telling the rest of us what to do and don't do, m'kay?

The whiny, suspiciously-timed 'Leave Dash Alone!' crap is getting old.  It's obviously just pouting about (distorted) market caps.

We're going to continue our efforts to expose and destroy Evan's HYIP scam whether you like it or not.   Wink
836  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency on: February 24, 2017, 08:45:16 PM



Congratulations on this epic pump!

What a monumental triumph of Dash's marketing over other coins' technology.


And to our daily detractors in this thread, I don't often say this due to my Canadian politeness, but you can just go suck it.

Per your paid shilling agreement known as 'Dash_Nation' you agreed not to say things "like you can just go suck it."

The impact of compensated Dash_Nation minions rude behavior on the project was discussed at length.

Comments like "you can just go suck it" were explicitly disallowed.

Source:

The Dash Force team consists of the following members:

InTheWoods - Dash slack owner and mod
The Desert Lynx - known crypto journalist
Macrochip - Dash slack mod, Dashpay reddit mod
SovereignBTC - Sovereign BTC podcast author
Tao - active Dash community member who runs the TaoOfSatoshi Twitter account
Elisha - Dash Times owner and author
Buster - Darq.io/The Cryptoreport author and Dash publick slack owner/mod


Tungfa: how do we know this will not 'drift off' into trolling / bad language / harassing other coins / .... as other communities have shown using these kind of efforts?  i totally agree and am NOT pushing to go there (negative) at all - the opposite (positive, professional well 'behaved' is the way forward!

thedesertlynx: It's easy to control the 7. For one, they have already been hand-picked by the project lead to properly represent the Dash community. Second, if they screw up after the first month, the project can either be defunded or a lone offending member can be booted.

InTheWoods: Dash Force will be a well coordinated team effort. No one member will wonder off and do his own thing.

itscrazybro: As Tungfa said, we need to be seen as a positive professional community and that means absolutely no trolling, swearing or anything like that.  If you guys could lay down some guidelines/rules (no trolling, no swearing) and promise if anyone breaks those guidelines/rules that they will be off the team, then I would feel a whole lot better about this.

837  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Not Bitcoin XT on: February 24, 2017, 01:32:20 AM
Can we get an update to NotBitcoinUnlimited please?   Grin

Can you get an upgrade to maybe having a shred of moral fortitude?   Angry
Spoofing clients is an attack on Bitcoin's consensus mechanism and should be condemned by honest users.   Cry
Why would you endorse such behaviour unless you are deliberately trying to cause havoc?   Cry
Your behaviour is far more potentially damaging to the network that any non-core developer could ever be.   Cry
You are reprehensible.   Cry
Then again, you probably endorse DDOS attacks on alternative client nodes too, so it's pretty much par for the course, right?  Cry

838  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: February 24, 2017, 01:25:53 AM
If only you had a view key or something

839  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: So who the hell is still supporting BU? on: February 24, 2017, 01:19:49 AM
Sure the price is at ATH when nobody except those paying competitive tx fees can deposit and sell Bitcoins on exchanges, where else could it be Cheesy

Fixed it for you.   Smiley

The Gavinistas are just playing silly games.

Ver will eventually get tired of wasting his money to send a few BTC to himself over and over, just to spam the mempool and create a false sense of urgency.

He got tired of spamming the mempool to pump XT, he got tired of doing it to pump Classic, and he'll get tired of doing it to pump Unlimite_.

wait, one minute you say it's hype and price is rising which implies more demand and more usage and now this conspiracy theory of someone spamming the network.

You don't believe it's real users sending more transactions driven to Bitcoin by the bull trend?

Hype, velocity, and price are obviously rising.  Team Gavin is trying to leverage this surge to make their spam attack more effective and advertise his false urgency to a wider than usual audience.

You do realize Bitcoin is working exactly as intended (ie allocating scarce resources efficiently) so long as its pay-for-priority fee market pricing mechanism keeps processing tx appropriately, right?

Or are you one of those over-entitled gibs-me-dat Free Shit Army types who complain when they get a $300 bill for taking an Uber in NYC on NYE?
840  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: So who the hell is still supporting BU? on: February 23, 2017, 04:36:35 PM
Sure the price is at ATH when nobody except those paying competitive tx fees can deposit and sell Bitcoins on exchanges, where else could it be Cheesy

Fixed it for you.   Smiley

The Gavinistas are just playing silly games.

Ver will eventually get tired of wasting his money to send a few BTC to himself over and over, just to spam the mempool and create a false sense of urgency.

He got tired of spamming the mempool to pump XT, he got tired of doing it to pump Classic, and he'll get tired of doing it to pump Unlimite_.
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