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8561  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: Crypto and Switzerland on: November 16, 2017, 06:53:16 PM
As we all know Switzerland is well known for its banking system. I watched Wolf Of Wall Street, well you know how protected Belfort was in Switzerland. I'm wondering is Switzerland opened to crypto currency. Do they allow to save your money earned and cashed out via different crypto exchange websites

As far as I know Switzerland is already bitcoin friendly. They even have a bitcoin bank approved,

https://www.cnbc.com/2017/07/12/switzerlands-legendary-banking-system-gave-bitcoin-vote-of-confidence.html

And they even allowed there residence to pay taxes in bitcoin,

https://news.bitcoin.com/chiasso-switzerland-to-allow-citizens-to-pay-taxes-in-bitcoin/

So to answer your question, Yes, Switzerland is very much open to crypto currency specially bitcoin.
8562  Economy / Speculation / Re: what will happen to btc value onward days . on: November 16, 2017, 05:14:36 PM
btc in dump these days ,so what will happen next few days . is it dump again for correction or rise up again

Haven't seen the dump that you are talking about. Its over, the price is going up to $7500 range so its easy so say the we are going to see a bull run once more. I must admit that the planned attack was real because bitcoin has pull backs, but its a temporary  and we all know that. So I'm not seeing a correction, but will continue to rise in the next coming days. So expect that the price will go and rise to something around $8000 if everything went smooth along the way.

8563  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Don't Spend Too Much Time Trading? is that true? on: November 16, 2017, 03:46:11 PM
I really think that we should invest time on trading as much as we invest our money. Why? Because in trading, you have to learn the in and outs then the you have to observed how the market moves, the news, speculations. So if you don't engaged yourself with a lot of time then you will be having time developing your trading success. I still believed that those who are very successful in trading today have one time in their career spending like 18 hours or more per day trying to perfect their strategy and learning how the market moves and reading a lot of news about the coins that they are going to invest and trade.
8564  Other / Meta / Re: Stake your Bitcoin address here on: November 15, 2017, 07:23:34 AM
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8565  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Trustworthy Mixing services? on: November 15, 2017, 07:19:54 AM
Are there any trustworthy mixing services as a few searches have yielded very few results.

In my experience using tumbling services the best I have used so far is:

1. https://[banned mixer]/ - after bitmixer.io closes its services, I switched to them. And so far smooth and no issues at my end as I have been using it for almost half a year already. Highly recommended.

2. https://chipmixer.com/ - Fairly new in the market but very trusted and re-invent how mixing bitcoin are. They even claimed that they don't store historical logs of their clients.

Those 2 are fairly solid already. If ypu are not contented, then you might as well try Bitblender, although I can't comment on them because I haven't used their service yet.
8566  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: Are Bitcoin private property on: November 15, 2017, 05:42:09 AM
I'm talking about the money kind of bitcoin.

Some situations where the bitcoin status of being a private property or not could arise:

> A mistakenly sends bitcoins to B, and A finds out who B is.
> A mistakenly shows his private keys to B (by just saying it), and A finds out who B is.
> B executes a replay attack on A.
> B, by an practical impossible luck, creates a private key that had founds that belonged to A already.
> B sends money to A (and A sends "something" or some information to B). Then, we don't know why, everyone decides to change their Bitcoin rules and the result is that A can't get to spend his money in the new version.

I started an article (here) trying to defend the idea that bitcoin is not private property, therefore all of the examples above couldn't be classified as theft or robbery (of private property).

What do you think?

When you own bitcoin, its your own private property. And we all know that having bitcoin is like having our own bank. How can someone knows who own Bitcoin A when there's no name associated with it?

And the situation you have put is flawed because as I have said, there is no name association so if hard to know who is the owner of A or B. And even those nodes are not private property of anyone.

They can decide to just drop out of the nodes without notifying others. And bitcoin is decentralize correct? So that alone shows the bitcoin is not a private property of anyone except you.
8567  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Time to quit now, network getting worst on: November 15, 2017, 04:41:28 AM
Network getting worst....there still about 90K unconfirmed transaction and transactions cost become so high.

If this keep happening, price will drop into shit soon....it could lead price to below 5K soon
There seem no way to solve this network problem, transaction per-second more higher than bitcoin network can handle.

I'm not crazy enough to spent fee 15 - 50 $/transaction. If i only sent 1 transaction per day, maybe just fine.

At moment, transactions very low, only about 6tx/second (average for 24 hours). If there bigger transactions, definitely there will be more unconfirmed transaction, doesn't matter how much fee you willing to pay.

The network is not getting worst, it is being attacked by some random someone who has a lot of time to be wasted and a lot of funds to be toyed. This is just a scheme played by them in order to pump Bitcoin Cash and compete with Bitcoin. The high number of unconfirmed transaction is not a new thing. I've seen this before and we will see this again at some point.

This will settle down soon enough. But until then, we will experience a huge tx fee.

If my memory serves me right, there were also such attacks at the height of the scaling  debate, spammer attacking and clogging the mempool but it then suddenly drop and we can only assumed who are the people behind.

And when Segwit2x got cancelled, we see the same attacks and and then suddenly bitcoin cash was pumped, so we can conclude as to who are the people behind the spam and if you look at it the timing is very well organized.
8568  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2017-11-03] Jerome Powell: Good News for Cryptocurrency? on: November 15, 2017, 03:59:53 AM
I don't think Jerome Powell will influence anything so far, not even becoming the top boss. Bitcoin will remain as it is in the USA. Remember when Donald Trump becomes President and he surrounded himself of so called bitcoin friendly advisers. And there is a lot of speculation as what will bitcoin going to turn out in the US. However, we didn't even see any significant thing that happened. So even if Mr. Powell will took over the Fed Chairmanship, there will be affect on how bitcoin is being operated in the US. Though this news is very welcoming indeed, but I haven't see any impact on bitcoin ecosystem.
8569  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Will Bitcoin Cash beat BTC? on: November 15, 2017, 03:15:32 AM
So we see that something like a real fight between Bitcoin and Bitcoin cash has started. While BTC fell and go on falling, Bitcoin Cash has shown a fantastic growth!
Does it mean that there is a possibility altcoin will be the winner?
Now that Bitcoin is back and the price is around $6.8k as of this moment then? BTC just fall a little but for others to buy cheap then everyone just says it will go down and be replaced by some altcoin who is pumping and will dump in due time. The answer to your question: no.

The thing with our community is that as we have matured and been in the action long enough, we really understand that no matter they say about bitcoin it went simple break up. The well orchestrated planned to disrupt bitcoin, is like a coup d' etat, overthrowing an existing government.

However, even if bitcoin price falls down, it was just a matter of time till it get up on its feet. Its very resilient from all attack that it is already immune by it. Yes, glad to see that it has already recovered and if I were a bitcoin cash investors, I would sold everything and go shift back to bitcoin. Because bitcoin cash is just a pump and dump altcoin.

8570  Other / Meta / Re: Stake your Bitcoin address here on: November 15, 2017, 02:31:05 AM
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8571  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Vs Bitcoin Cash on: November 15, 2017, 02:27:08 AM
I dont think in this time it wont,bitcoin is really on top and will stay on top for couple of years.but we dont know if what will happen in the next years.if bitcoin cash can go upto the bitcoin stage.i dont say that bcc cant.but it may in a long run.for now lets respect that btc is really in top
I see around the bitcoin will remain on top in the next 5 years. Bitcoin cash or big blockers proponents are really pushing it to the next level, however, bitcoin is the only trusted 'bitcoin' because it has already capture majority of the investors. However, with the big blocks that bitcoin cash is offering as a solution to the ever slow confirmations and high transaction fees, I wouldn't surprise the most users or investors will moved to bitcoin cash in the next 3-5 years if the problem still persist on bitcoin network.
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8573  Economy / Services / Re: MatrixCoin Signature and Avatar campaign. on: November 14, 2017, 05:49:15 PM
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8574  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: I hope you guys won't fall for this BCH joke on: November 14, 2017, 02:00:02 PM
The market will put the coins in their right place. We just have to wait and see which one will come out on top. In my opinion, i think both will coexist for a long time and serve different purposes - the price might reflect that in the long run.

We don't need to wait for long time because the people already see the results and we all know who is the real bitcoin here. Bitcoin cash is nothing but just for pump and dump and will only benefit a few, while bitcoin has been used by a lot of people globally.

They will co exist definitely but we all know for sure which coin has a better support from the community. The other one is just a altcoin and will compete on the altcoin market. While the true bitcoin will be adopted in the next couple of years. So its up to us which coin we are going to support.
8575  Economy / Economics / Re: Central of the Philippines Recognizes Bitcoin on: November 14, 2017, 12:46:46 PM
The thread is mostly 1 year old. Does that actually happen? And what it actually mean? Is there any legal businesses in Phillipine that accept Bitcoin?

The recognition of the Central Bank of the Philippines was actually for the likes of Coins.ph and a few Bitcoin exchanges in the Philippines. There's also a Bitcoin ATM in Makati City but no small businesses yet such as coffee houses, computer shops, etc that I know that accepts Bitcoin.

But I think give it a few more months or years, Bitcoin will slowly be adopted by businesses. I know for the fact since I myself and a few other friends will be putting up a businesses that will accept Bitcoin soon.
Yes I also thinking for it the adoption for bitcoin in the country is not becoming fast but it can be used as soon as all people being educated about bitcoin so that they can easily use it.
This is the case in the Philippines. Although their Central Bank has issues a statement about bitcoin, the adoption rate is very slow because not everyone really find bitcoin attractive. Yes, I would agree that there are a lot of Filipino's are into bitcoin but its not very significant in numbers and most Filipino would prefer to accept cash or cards when you are in the country. For bitcoin to be really widely used it should be accepted as payment method, I hope that it can happen in the Philippines.
8576  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Nearly a third of people think bitcoin will collapse in the next six months on: November 14, 2017, 12:29:27 PM
I want to cast doubt on the conclusion of such research. If you will research on the streets on the effectiveness of various modern methods of diagnosis and treatment of cancer. You trust these studies? The question of course is rhetorical. How can you treat the opinion of those people who don't know what bitcoin is and never used it.
Exactly. Its just their own opinion because in the first place, they really don't know how bitcoin market works. They will just said that voice their opinion without really know that facts. And to think that they have that notion that bitcoin will collapse in the next 6 months is laughable. Doesn't it mean that we are going to die in the next 6 months? LOL.

This media is really blowing out of proportions what bitcoin can really do to investors like us. They don't have any slight of a clue. Well the market is volatile there is no question about it, however its moving toward a positive result for all of us.

8577  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: I hope you guys won't fall for this BCH joke on: November 13, 2017, 08:07:34 PM
Just saying... BTC is the real thing and will remain... you know it right?
So act wisely and don't fall for this trap: btw don't miss the chance to sell you BCH to get more Bitcoins - I'm sure we will have a bigger pump by Christmas Wink
Yeah, all the smart bitcoiners know it is an ordinary pump by big whales. Smiley
I don't think there is anyone smart bitcoiner that'll risk putting money on BCH unless looking for short time profits, i guess.
Well I believed that there are some bitcoiners who shift to Bitcoin Cash for quick profit. But they are getting back at bitcoin so anytime soon bitcoin will again reach almost $7000. Its a smart move though for some bitcoiners, they just ride all this hype on Bitcoin cash and bailing out in time.

haha, looking chart now, Bitcoin has recovered soon. I think that many investors have begun selling BCH to get profit now. Newcomers should not buy BCH now. It will drop soon
Just like I said, most traders are bailing out and moving back to bitcoin that's why it has recovered so quick from all of this chaos and drama. Bitcoin cash is nothing but a propaganda coin to fit the people behind it their agenda. Its going down and in the next 48 hours bitcoin will touch $7000 once more.
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