Well it already happened as what @cynical has pointed out.


There's also the factor of the next bitcoin halving. So it means that bitcoin will be really scarce, meaning the price could literally skyrocketed in the future so I don't think that we can see diminishing returns as you trying to picture out. As for altcoins, they will simple die a natural death, but its not applicable to bitcoin.

I agree with your comments. I'm sure that when the US government sees crypto as potential to get more tax then they will change their stands and will put another classification that will fall in the category of 20%-30% tax.

Interesting to note as well that Russia's own back up cryptocurrency is pegged around 28% so most probably I would surmise that it can also go around that ballpark.

It will be heavily tax in the US that's for sure and I don't think that there will be like crypto hub as well.

Hello everyone,

I'm really interested in investing in this token during its Pre-ICO and ICO sales however, I don't have the funds needed that time. But now I have save enough I have done my homework about this tokens. However, I was a bit disappointed when the price suddenly plummeted from $1.xx to $.020-.040 and it looks like all the hype around it suddenly died. But I still believed that in can bounce back, just needed a little positive news. My question is:

1. What do you think will be the price in the long run?
2. Any news that you are aware that can really push the price even further in the future?
3. How much price do you think it can go lets say in the next 6 months or so?

I will give sMerit (1 point each) to the first 5 person who can answer the questions above. I don't need 1-2 line shit posting here. What I'm looking is a honest and unbiased view on TIO.

Not following him. But I heard that his twitter account has hacked, well that's according to him.


He is more of an influencer than a crypto guru. But he is so eccentric that others fine his "coin of the day" interesting. But then again, where is he when Bitcoin wasn't even in the mainstream media? He just appeared sometime last year and made controversial remarks like eating his manhood if bitcoin doesn't reach 1 million.

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For me the survey doesn't bring anything on the table. It's just another number that doesn't add up to something. He can even create a new survey and I'm sure it will have a different result.

As far as I know, there no coin that can even match bitcoin in terms of its popularity. I consider bitcoin as a household name today. Crytpocurrency=Bitcoin. And you will find countless article in the web about it (positive or negative). So I don't see any coins right now that can even challenge its dominance. Ethereum and Ripple both tried but the so called 'Flippening' did not happened.

But in this industry, anything is possible though, there might be a coin someday that will come out and replace it, but with the current set of altcoins, I don't see anything getting close its terms of popularity and market dominance. Many hard tried but all of them failed (Ethereum, Ripple, and Bitcoin Cash).

When I used to work with Odesk (now Upwork), I have one clients who pay me in directly to may Paypal accounts. I know its against their TOS but we have make it a point that we will not used their tools to track our chats.

But I've been away for so long that I don't know they there are clients now that are willing to pay their workers with bitcoins. Yes, you should be very careful if the clients decides to pay you in bitcoin. But I'm really surprise though.

I've been a Odesk worker since 2009 when it was still young and only few workers. I was lucky though that I have maintained a client for 3 long years. Sadly though, it has to end so after that I never entertained any clients and my odesk account has been sleeping for more than 5 years now. I would say that I made tons of money back then.

I'm sorry to tell you that you are wrong. Please read here:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/2018/02/09/france-germany-demand-bitcoin-clampdown/

They are not in neutral grounds but wants a complete hammer ban on everything related to cryptos. They are pursuing in the G20 summit next month a joint proposal on regulating bitcoins.

That's why they really wanted to cut the heads while it is still early because Germany is one country that bitcoin and crypto will suddenly explode. The government wants to control it at the very beginning to not cause any harm on their economics, well that's according to them.

Correct. I'm just discussing it with a friend of mine 2 days ago. We could have made huge profit by today, almost doubled our money. But we didn't. Not that we are afraid to take risk, but we don't have money to invest that time and we don't want to borrow from someone.


The dip and the subsequent dump was long overdue. There are a lot of irrational buyers during the December peak that got burned last month alone. They are not experts, those are people who just created FUD to spread fear among investors. The experts that I have read says the bottom is $6K which we hit and then it never go down below that. Now we see the price has pick up already and maybe a new all-time-high is just on the horizon.

I laugh at your comment dude. Those who have bought bitcoin at top price (around $15K-$19K) have already left the market. They have sold everything during the panic sells in January-February. There might be some few who returns back, but I don't those noobs will go invest on it again. They got burned early on their crypto investment careers. That's why you will see threads spreading FUD's because it fell short of their expectations to be rich.

But I agree that its going to be a big hurdle to get into the 6 digits range. We need to take it slowly and not rush things as its not healthy. A sudden rise means that we could crash anytime because the bubble will be burst.

I wouldn't put too much pressure on us getting to $100K. A price of around $50K will be good enough for me. Let's not be over confident and take everything in a slow stride if we break $100K then good, but if not, then I'm happy if we could touch $50K at the end of the year.

You have to understand that blockchain and bitcoin are 2 different things. And as per tweet, India's PM is mentioning about Blockchain and not bitcoin. Sorry to burst the bubble but no need to celebrate here.


Correct, they may adapt blockchain though, but not bitcoin or crypto. They just curb out dirty money through demonetization recently. And adopting or even embracing bitcoin? Nah, I don't see it coming in the next years or so.


I doubt that India though will accept crypto. Well they may, but with strict regulations. But an outright ban is not needed. India has been involved with crypto for so long that I believed that it has somewhat stimulated their economy because ordinary citizens now have more purchasing power coming from crypto earnings.

As you have said, anything is possible, it can go both ways. But right now Ethereum is going to $1K, although I felt that its a mental barrier for the investors unlike before wherein it breaks $1K with no sweat but this time is different.

But I don't think that it has correlations with bitcoin prices. Before I would have to agree with you, but the game has changed a lot. If you will notice around its December rally, both Bitcoin and Ethereum enjoyed a good price increase. Same goes with Litecoin, it no longer follows the path of Bitcoin.

Ethereum already etches its own destiny, its no longer affected on Bitcoin prices, they have its only investor based. There's no more shifting of cash around, which means that new faces are already getting into the market scene which is a good sign that more and more people are going into crypto now.

Your so mean man.  . But I commended you for stating the truth. They coin will die naturally totally forgotten.


Exactly, why do they need to used Bitcoin's name? Its obvious that they just want to hype it. But I'm sure that there's nothing special about them, pump-and-dump, reaching all-time-high and then going back to absolute worthless.

If some of you guys have benefit from it then good, time to move on other coins and I don't think it will gain traction for long term investments. Get out early while you can.

Because journalist now are riding bitcoin's popularity. They completely write garbage news to attract clicks to their website. And you will also noticed that there are a lot of so called experts now. Looks like everyone has a Masters or PhD in bitcoin economics. They can see and predict that price movement.


They may be group of people and now a single individual. We will not identify them because that's one huge amount to pour in the market. They will only surface if someone will go forward that they are the mysterious buyers, but I doubt it. Bitcoin address has no name attached to it.

Exactly, They are the first recipient Blockchain, the underlying technology behind bitcoin that's why I really find it sad that they have been bashing and attacking bitcoin ever since. But if you look closely the same technology that powered bitcoin is the same technology that they are looking at to improved the banking system.


They are going to adopt bitcoin for sure because like I said, it will eliminate their paper works. And thru the ledger, banks and their branches can easily share information seamlessly. It may take time to migrate their legacy system, but if it will improved their business and cost wise then I say they will go for it.

I thought that the bearish is over, so I was quite surprise to see the price pulling back below $11K, so we are not still safe as far as the bearish sentiments is concern.

As for me $12K will be the next mental barrier. We need to broke it this week otherwise, we will see the bears going at it again. Although confidence is back, investors are still reluctant to pour there cash because there are a lot of paid schills going around the social media, claiming that cryptos specially bitcoin will go die and will go down to 0.

But I wouldn't listen to them, its better to do your own homework in crypto's rather than overcome by all the fake news going around the social media.

Unfortunately, it make a pullback to the $10K levels again. I was happy to see it go to $11300 yesterday, but when I woke up I was surprised it is at $10K++. However, no need to worry as this is just a normal day ago. Profit taking is just normal, maybe those who have bought at the bottom ($6K) is cashing it out.

Its too early to call but in my opinion, the price will not fall below $10K, there's so much resistance at it so the price could pick up today and try to test $11K. I'm expecting that at the end of the month, assuming there's no FUD, we will be comfortable at $12K entering March.

Exactly. I also started from scratch. I just joined signature campaigns and try to save as much. And then when I learn trading and decided to get my hands dirty, I used my saved bitcoin to channel funds for my trading activity. I think that's what most of us has done here. And some of us have been successful traders and earning tons of money.


I would say its one thing to earn, but if you don't have a positive mindset then I'm sure that you will fail. Joining campaigns is not that easy, you need patience as well to be able to grow your account overtime and have a good payment so that you will have enough funds for your trading.

Of course the situation will be 50/50 because the market is base on speculation. If you look at last year sudden rise to $19K, I say no single expert has predicted the price could go that high. The highest price prediction in this forum was around $5K if I'm not mistaken.

The mental barrier that is $20K is doable for me. Why? We may have experienced major crisis lately, however, investors are still willing to shell out their hard earn money simply because crypto potential is still huge as far as earning profits for long term is concern.

Yes, you are correct in the men's side. However, but we all know that Roger Federer is not getting any younger and there are a lot of young and upcoming talented players who are going to take the crown from him or Nadal.

So for me, maintaining his #1 spot will be hard. Plus he doesn't enter many tournaments to gain points to maintain his position.

As for WTA, we haven't seen someone who dominates, every year, different champions and the ranking quickly change hands. Maybe those women is very competitive in nature or lack there of.

Bitcoin and other crypto will really make a comeback. Although the month of January alone saw crypto's suddenly down to more than 60%, just sad to see but it just part of the ecosystem and we all know how crypto market is very volatile.

But a couple of days ago, the air has suddenly changed. We are now seeing a lot of significant gains not only bitcoin but the rest of the altcoins.

So if we have patience and just hold on our coins, then you are very happy to see that we have been in a rally of sort. Its early to say that we are out of danger though, please remained vigilant and make better judgement whether to buy or sell.