do we have any speculation on how many coins the biggest fish in the monero sea holds?
100k? 300k? do we think anyone out there has a million xmr?
disclaimer: i know it's more than me.
700k was the highest I know of--though those were lost at sea in a hack. |
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Any numbers on past performance in krw? Just a ballpark figure of the normal daily % will do. |
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I think the news about Multi-Sig is maybe being heard finally, since it is now in testing and DNMs that haven't stocked up on Monero may be taking the opportunity with these low prices.
"for it is money(Bitcoin) they have and peace they lack"
SHUM!!!
You mean all they want is shum peace of mind? That's a brilliantly simple usecase  |
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According to the current market it is indeed underrated. Whole alts are underrated too since the last fork.
Yes it is also just a question of time when the big BTC correction will happen. Also IOTA technology compared to BTC is something like Crypto 3.0. No more expensive and slow transactions, feeless transactions instead. This lets BTC let look pretty old. And yet it cant be stopped as IOTA already has too much support by big companies. Seems the German Telekom, a telecommunication giant in Germany, is endorsing IOTA: https://www.brand-design.telekom.com/hackathon/The IOTA founder will have a presentation on the Blockchain conference organized by the Telekom. So we have major companies lining up behind IOTA, Bosch, Volkswagen, Telekom, but you will find a lot of trolls trying to explain you how it is worthless and you should sell and not buy it. I love this game but have been too long in it.  Interesting project. Thanks for highlighting and making a case for researching further. |
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If you get how the zerocoin protocol works you will see how easy it is to have privacy. It's possible to keep all your coins untraceable on pivx, by keeping them on the zpiv form, however you can't stake this way. And once they come from the zpiv accumlator, what can you say about the origin or destination of those pivx? nothing.  . And this statement just proves that they are not Fungable and can never be. /answering shill mode off I feel like the goal of trying to cast the widest net for suckers users has many treating privacy as a feature, rather than a function. Until their goal is fungibility and creating the largest anonymity set, they will continue to stare at Monero's design in dumb awe. They neither understand that Monero's user base demands best in class privacy or how to attain best in class privacy--to them marketing and better-than-Bitcoin's-privacy are enough. that's exactly my question, why is monero better than pivx from a privacy point of view? And yes I think it's a very relevant topic for the monero speculation thread. If pivx tech is better... Read the bolded as it applies to optional privacy--I said this before and can only repeat it so many times--if you don't understand, that's not my problem. Also, if you want technological analysis, I suggest you ask in the monero ann thread or on reddit or on irc--this is a Monero speculation thread, not a development thread. It's obvious that you are using it to shill pivx. It's off topic, annoying and obvious. Please ask technical questions on a technical thread. Look I'll even link you a great place to find out all the reasons pivx is inferior: https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero |
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Multi-sig lost the "Do Not Merge" banner |
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Ok... I haven't dropped in here in a couple of weeks. And I'm quite surprised Fluffy Pony is in here typing in all caps. So something must def be up.
Too lazy to back read right now as I'm in a noisy bus trying to get home. Can anyone give me the tldr version?
Someone played the conspiracy card in regards to Monero's wikipage--though I have a hunch that was to pique conspiracy minded folk enough to click on a pm that was mass executed on reddit with some dubious links--I'm sure a few noobs were baited enough to be caught in the phishing attempt. |
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This is getting ugly, I have to consider dumping my stash. Fuck that.
Welp, if you allow to be squeezed out of crypto you will be. We all gotta live with our choices. Well its not like im loosing something If only we loost you, walonek/doc12, you big looser |
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What is the prevailing theory about the origin of the trolls in this thread? They seem to arrive mid-late bear markets, are completely belligerent, and speak in broken English. They are overly hostile and their methods are completely ineffectual. They are unique to the bitcointalk forum, and not seen in other public forums. I'm a long-time lurker on this thread, but I finally had to make an account so I could start blocking them so I wouldn't have to read their inane babbling.
There were two, which both used a Scrooge McDuck avatar, that used to frequent here up until recently. The current one--doc, walonek, and a noob account I forget--is way more aggressive than the McDucks, but has the same aura of desperation. I get the feeling that it's the effect of taking a short and the belief that trolling the thread drives down the price--at this point it may even be a compulsion: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KKaA7GDND-o |
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Being taunted by 877% gains is loltastic.
I'm very happy with my XMR investment this year - think there is significant room for growth once ZEC is no longer considered an alternative. I see the techs like this * BTC - fully public ledger (similar to public accounts) * ZEC - hidden ledger, but still visible to the authorities (similar to bank accounts) * XMR - fully private ledger (similar to keeping cash in a safe or stuffed under a mattress - in terms of traceability) All have their purposes and I see XMR as a very important piece in the jigsaw TBH, I think it would have a greater run than Bitcoin in Zimbabwe or Venezuela if people understood its advantages--it's not good that authorities (or unauthorized thugs) can track your use of a currency outside of their crumbling system. |
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Dear developers! Are you going to work on a project, ha?
There is only PJ and I'm fairly certain he doesn't read BTC threads (or work on the game much). As far as Speed's search, there haven't been any updates. Also, feel free to use your real account, no real reason to hide behind a noob account So, am I right, that for now there is no chance to take back from project any xmr else? Think we have a communication barrier. I'm not saying the project is failed or you can't deposit/withdrawal/trade M3. I'm merely pointing out that PJ doesn't work on the game much and doesn't read BCT. OK! Can I ask you - can I directly change somehow all my acc to XMR? M hasn't = XMR for over a year now. Monero (XMR) is represented by a tradable item in the game called M3. You can withdraw M3 if you have them. You need to contact iluvbitoins if you want to withdraw M3 as he runs the M3 depository. How can I buy or sell smthng? screen: http://pastenow.ru/186535f9499ee8da52058f89482a3951Use the BUY command: https://cryptokingdom.gamepedia.com/Commands#BUYOr SELL command: https://cryptokingdom.gamepedia.com/Commands#SELLThe CLI (command line interface) is the box on the bottom right of your screen. If you can see at the screen - there are buy and sell sums are the same - 30000m, but nothing is happening. That's a known bug--PJ will fix someday. If someone goes to a 0 or negative balance, they cannot buy anymore, so it creates ghost bids with the bids they had up before their balance went to 0 or below. |
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My investment I made 5 weeks back will have halved by next week, I had a lot of faith in this coin seems when the hype moves to the next one it slowly bleeds out.  If you are buying Monero on hype, you are doing it wrong. Best thing to do is start studying why Monero is best in class privacy--without a proper education, you can't appreciate what you're holding. Also, Monero is notorious for punishing speculators. If your idea of longterm is a few weeks, you are probably in the wrong place. |
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Ripple, Vertcoin and even Doge have larger communities than Monero! ouch. Not sure why they even use facebook as a metric for monero, a privacy coin shouldn't have a strong facebook presence. What's paragon coin? They have a ton of likes. Also, vertcoin's stats don't match their rank, though that could be because of an unlisted metric. |
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Hmm i remember it was always around rank.5- Does anyone who monitor coingecko rankings more closely tells what was the main reasons Monero went ahead of Ripple and Litecoin. I think litecoin's git has a lot of tumbleweeds atm, whereas monero's looks like a gold rush. Haven't really paid attention to ripple. |
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If you get how the zerocoin protocol works you will see how easy it is to have privacy. It's possible to keep all your coins untraceable on pivx, by keeping them on the zpiv form, however you can't stake this way. And once they come from the zpiv accumlator, what can you say about the origin or destination of those pivx? nothing. . And this statement just proves that they are not Fungable and can never be. /answering shill mode off I feel like the goal of trying to cast the widest net for suckers users has many treating privacy as a feature, rather than a function. Until their goal is fungibility and creating the largest anonymity set, they will continue to stare at Monero's design in dumb awe. They neither understand that Monero's user base demands best in class privacy or how to attain best in class privacy--to them marketing and better-than-Bitcoin's-privacy are enough. |
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Monero is alright but can someone explain me what chance it stands against Zcash? I think Zcash has already proved that they use by far the most superior cryptography. And if you don't believe me, you don't have to. Just ask yourself why JP Morgan is implementing their solution and not Monero's solution in their blockchain ledger, or why Ethereum is implementing the Zcash technology and not the Monero technology? I have nothing against Monero but it looks to me like everything is against that coin, what are the chances of success when developers come up with real innovations. That is already a good proof that is reflected in the price of the currency, Zcash is far more valuable than Monero, so the market has spoken regarding that topic. Monero has to implement some real alternative to even come close to compete with Zcash. I wish the team best of lack, we need competition in the space because it pushes us to improve our service and products, I hope it does the same for Monero.
You are totally mistaken to believe that Zcash is "far more valuable" than Monero. As of now Monero has more than double the market cap - comparing unit prices is meaningless... The problem with zcash is that the total coin supply can't be audited... Who knows what can happen. For example pivx started to use the zerocoin protocol 2 weeks ago to replace masternode mixing. Then when I compare the fees between monero and pivx to make an untraceable tx, I just You mean they charge you for tainting a normal pivx tx? yes and no, charge is that the fees is spend on the blockchain and become void, reducing the total coin supply. it actually cost 0.01 pivx per dominations (5000zpiv or 1zpiv cost the same). tainting, what do you mean? that they become like xmr, zcash and co untraceable? Why does it taint them? it's just like buying something with notes and getting your change back.  The coins aren't "tainted" they become untraceable and fungible. Fungibility works when all coins are untraceable, if you have coins that are traceable and ones that aren't, they are different and can be identified as such. All the coins need to be untraceable. If you get how the zerocoin protocol works you will see how easy it is to have privacy. It's possible to keep all your coins untraceable on pivx, by keeping them on the zpiv form, however you can't stake this way. And once they come from the zpiv accumlator, what can you say about the origin or destination of those pivx? nothing. . You don't understand what I'm saying--also, this is a Monero speculation thread, so please stop shilling. Start a new topic if you want to start a technical conversation, this is not the place for that. |
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Monero is alright but can someone explain me what chance it stands against Zcash? I think Zcash has already proved that they use by far the most superior cryptography. And if you don't believe me, you don't have to. Just ask yourself why JP Morgan is implementing their solution and not Monero's solution in their blockchain ledger, or why Ethereum is implementing the Zcash technology and not the Monero technology? I have nothing against Monero but it looks to me like everything is against that coin, what are the chances of success when developers come up with real innovations. That is already a good proof that is reflected in the price of the currency, Zcash is far more valuable than Monero, so the market has spoken regarding that topic. Monero has to implement some real alternative to even come close to compete with Zcash. I wish the team best of lack, we need competition in the space because it pushes us to improve our service and products, I hope it does the same for Monero.
You are totally mistaken to believe that Zcash is "far more valuable" than Monero. As of now Monero has more than double the market cap - comparing unit prices is meaningless... The problem with zcash is that the total coin supply can't be audited... Who knows what can happen. For example pivx started to use the zerocoin protocol 2 weeks ago to replace masternode mixing. Then when I compare the fees between monero and pivx to make an untraceable tx, I just You mean they charge you for tainting a normal pivx tx? yes and no, charge is that the fees is spend on the blockchain and become void, reducing the total coin supply. it actually cost 0.01 pivx per dominations (5000zpiv or 1zpiv cost the same). tainting, what do you mean? that they become like xmr, zcash and co untraceable? Why does it taint them? it's just like buying something with notes and getting your change back. The coins aren't "tainted" they become untraceable and fungible. Fungibility works when all coins are untraceable, if you have coins that are traceable and ones that aren't, they are different and can be identified as such. All the coins need to be untraceable. |
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Monero is alright but can someone explain me what chance it stands against Zcash? I think Zcash has already proved that they use by far the most superior cryptography. And if you don't believe me, you don't have to. Just ask yourself why JP Morgan is implementing their solution and not Monero's solution in their blockchain ledger, or why Ethereum is implementing the Zcash technology and not the Monero technology? I have nothing against Monero but it looks to me like everything is against that coin, what are the chances of success when developers come up with real innovations. That is already a good proof that is reflected in the price of the currency, Zcash is far more valuable than Monero, so the market has spoken regarding that topic. Monero has to implement some real alternative to even come close to compete with Zcash. I wish the team best of lack, we need competition in the space because it pushes us to improve our service and products, I hope it does the same for Monero.
You are totally mistaken to believe that Zcash is "far more valuable" than Monero. As of now Monero has more than double the market cap - comparing unit prices is meaningless... The problem with zcash is that the total coin supply can't be audited... Who knows what can happen. For example pivx started to use the zerocoin protocol 2 weeks ago to replace masternode mixing. Then when I compare the fees between monero and pivx to make an untraceable tx, I just You mean they charge you for tainting a normal pivx tx? |
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Dear developers! Are you going to work on a project, ha?
There is only PJ and I'm fairly certain he doesn't read BTC threads (or work on the game much). As far as Speed's search, there haven't been any updates. Also, feel free to use your real account, no real reason to hide behind a noob account So, am I right, that for now there is no chance to take back from project any xmr else? Think we have a communication barrier. I'm not saying the project is failed or you can't deposit/withdrawal/trade M3. I'm merely pointing out that PJ doesn't work on the game much and doesn't read BCT. OK! Can I ask you - can I directly change somehow all my acc to XMR? M hasn't = XMR for over a year now. Monero (XMR) is represented by a tradable item in the game called M3. You can withdraw M3 if you have them. You need to contact iluvbitoins if you want to withdraw M3 as he runs the M3 depository. How can I buy or sell smthng? screen: http://pastenow.ru/186535f9499ee8da52058f89482a3951Use the BUY command: https://cryptokingdom.gamepedia.com/Commands#BUYOr SELL command: https://cryptokingdom.gamepedia.com/Commands#SELLThe CLI (command line interface) is the box on the bottom right of your screen. |
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