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1  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do not gamble with Loan Money~otherwise you will be in danger like me on: May 25, 2024, 01:41:03 PM

Well to me, I don’t see any good thing on taking a loan just because of gambling you can actually use some parts of your money. Yes, it is a nice thing to target, big money and recover what you have lost but I don’t feel like it’s advisable to use loan on it because we don’t trust gambling we can end of losing and losing even when you think you’re not lose you will definitely lose, well is for us to take advice and get experience from what has happened to you and so many things like this. Also happened to me, but I have stopped taking some kind of risk
A loan can be taken for a good business or purchase of a fixed asset, but taking a loan in gambling means inviting one's own disaster. In gambling a gambler should use such amount of money that losing the amount will not change the financial condition of the gambler. When gamblers become more addicted they try to loan money to use in gambling. It should be remembered that debt makes a person more indebted. Although there are many who are able to pay off their debt quickly after taking out a loan, not everyone is equally lucky.

Lending requires not only the repayment of the borrowed funds but also the interest on the loan. If a person does not have his own money today, he has nothing to think about a loan, because by taking a loan he takes on a load that he cannot cope with. How he will pay this money in the future is not quite clear, and after all in life may happen unforeseen situations that can significantly affect the financial situation. Gambling on credit money is not only irresponsible but also stupid.
Indeed. It's not advisable to take a loan just to use for gambling. But it is acceptable as long as the gambler has a stable job or other source of income wherein he can repay the loan regardless of the outcome of his gambling activity where he used the borrowed money.

Anyway, it's best to refrain yourself from playing if you have no budget. Using your own money doesn't guarantee that you can double it since losing is inevitable. So what more if your money is from loan with interest? Gamblers who used to do this are just giving themselves a serious problem and they will only realize it if they lose the money and it's already time to repay.

2  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why do people lose in gambling and still go ahead and bet more? on: May 25, 2024, 03:07:25 AM
However, playing gambling needs to be wise so they will not forces themselves to keeps playing gambling. Playing gambling is just to fills our spare time and not for playing gambling too long because we knows the risks and we don't have to gets lose much money. We already see what happens to other people who playing gambling excessively and many of them lose their money and even bankrupt.
But it's a choice. If there are gamblers who play excessively, it is their will not to control themselves, leting gambling influence them negatively. Because if you're wise to think on what should be the right thing to do, then you will refrain yourself even it is tempting.

Those who gamble to have fun are aware of the negative consequences if they go beyond their limit. Gambling is not entirely a bad habit since it has positive and negative effect depending on the player. Because the gambler itself will determine how he wants gambling affect him and it depends on his mindset and main desire on why he wants to gamble.
3  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is gambling bad to the society? on: May 24, 2024, 08:33:23 PM
So what I'm trying to conclude is that gambling isn't something you should take as a hobby or as a means of earning just to make a living. So what are your thoughts?
Gambling should not really be treated as your way to make money because it is risky and gaining is not guaranteed. Many gamblers tried this but failed and some of them became addicted for not being able to accept the fact. Resulting for them to keep on playing to chase back their losses or to achieve their goal of winning huge.

However, when it comes to hobby, I think it's fine as long as you're playing with discipline using the money that you can afford to lose and you don't spend a long hours just to play. Otherwise, better to find other activity that you can enjoy without spending much money.
4  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: If we lose in gambling, what do we need to do? on: May 23, 2024, 08:08:25 PM
Gambling isn't just about losing money, it's also about winning it. Those of us who take part in gambling, even if we do it for fun, always aim to profit from our experience.
Well, that's true. But for gamblers playing to entertain themselves, winning is like an incentive for enjoying what they do and able to gain since it's not their main desire on why they are playing. It's nice to win but if you only focus on that goal then you can't enjoy the game if you experience losing your money. The difference is, if you're doing it for fun, you can easily move on when you had losses. While playing to make money can influence you to keep playing to win and somehow recover the losses.
5  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How has big wins and jackpot stories affected your gambling habit? on: May 23, 2024, 06:34:48 AM
I've read and watched stories of people who hit a big jackpot and from a first-person point of view, the first thing that comes to mind is that " I wish I was the lucky person" and the effect of such an experience has always been to keep trying with the hope that I might get lucky to win my jackpot.
Seeing other gamblers made fortune through gambling can motivate someone to keep playing because of the thought that the time will come you'll win too. However, it's not a good mindset in gambling because every gamblers have different fate. Thus, don't be so hopeful because it can only lead to losses if you didn't control yourself when spending money in gambling. Just because you believe you'll gain huge too if you keep trying.

Have you ever increased the amount you normally used in betting just because someone you know won big by betting with a greater amount?
I used to be a gambler that is easily attracted to big win of gamblers. What i'm doing is, I will play the same game and expecting to hit a decent amount too. But that's not what we supposed to do when we gamble. Don't be attracted of other gambler's big win. Bet the amount you can afford to lose and refrain from being too inspired to win huge.
6  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Your gambling life could affect your relatives lifes. on: May 22, 2024, 10:31:00 PM
100%, had a lot of friends who destroyed their lives because of gambling addiction. Unfortunately, no matter how much help they tried to get, they still ended up in the same life.
An addicted gambler can't change what he used to if he is not helping himself and not willing to do so. It's not easy to overcome the addiction that's why it is crucial that the gambler itself is determine to stop this habit (aside from the help of others).

Family and relatives are indeed affected if one of the member ended up as an addicted. The humiliation and emotional trauma are there. The reason why we should not only think of ourselves when we gamble since we have a family that will be greatly affected when something happened to us.
7  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What is the biggest bet you ever won? Did you withdraw or lose it? on: May 22, 2024, 07:19:01 AM
The biggest amount that I won in gambling is $500 and it's from lottery. It's unexpected since I just saw a physical betting shop at the mall while waiting for my sister then I just tried to bet since the ticket is quite cheap.

I immediately withdraw the winnings and use the money for shopping. It's a memorable experience because i'm not a fan of lottery and winning such is really a suprise for me. A lucky and special day that happened few years ago.
8  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling is not place to make money is place to lose it? on: May 21, 2024, 12:51:05 PM
Still, if the winners are only a few, many people will still gamble because we never know who those winners are. Every gambler will try his or her luck, in the hope that he or she may be those lucky ones who will be awarded as a winner.
This hope of winning will always be alive and the gamblers will always be hopeful to win the games and change their fortunes.
Indeed. Despite of the fact that majority of gamblers are losing, this can't hinder the gamblers to try their luck because of their hope to win huge that can make them rich instantly.

Just like those who regularly buy lottery tickets. Although the chances are one in a million to win, it doesn't stop them to bet because of the huge prize. Gambling is not really a way to make money but we can't take away this specific reason for many gamblers since majority are hopeful to win that's why they keep on playing.
9  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you think gambling every day is better? on: May 21, 2024, 06:41:26 AM
That's left for a person to decide, anything done daily can easily become a habit and you won't know until I has so engraved itself into your heart that you would always want to do it irrespective of any condition, why I hate gambling daily is cause not everyday has the games I like playing so why stress myself trying to win in unfamiliar territory and leagues I know nothing off, so it's better I gamble only when I see the matches I believe would play off for me and that's what works for me, although I have friends that gamble more often than me and they are still winning but it's not advisable cause you could end up wreaking yourself real quick if you don't have enough self control and discipline.
Even if they thinks that playing gambling is safe for them, they must not trying to do that because he can lose more money, especially if he doesn't have luck at that moment. I don't needs to playing gambling every day because I will prepare more money than I can afford and I realizes that my loses will becomes bigger as I don't have a big luck in gambling. I prefer to playing gambling occasionally so I will not lose much money. Those people who still playing gambling daily must thinks about how much money they will prepare and how can they allocate that money to be used to playing gambling daily. From that calculation, they will see how big of their money that can be used to playing gambling and it's better to use that money to the other things.
I don't see anything wrong if someone is playing everyday as long as he is aware of the risk and able to control himself to not become addicted. Gambling everyday doesn't necessarily mean you're already an addicted gambler. Because it can also be an activity for someone to entertain himself during free time. Thus, it depends, therefore as long as you have discipline and not playing with a main desire to win or to chase your previous losses, then that's fine since we have different way on how we deal with it as a gambler.
10  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: When you are confident with your picks, do you win most of the time? on: May 20, 2024, 08:53:15 AM
So how about you? Have you ever thought of this idea when your picks aren't hitting? I mean, if we keep following how we think and feel with our picks and it doesn't translate to profit, there's no reason to continue following the same strategy. But are we comfortable with betting against our own picks just for the sake of fading ourselves strategy?
The goal here is to profit. So if betting against your pick would be a working strategy for you then so be it. If there's a good result, why not? For me it doesn't matter if you're not using your own pick as long as your choice has a more chance to win. It's not about confidence because that doesn't guarantee a sure win. Gambling is still a game of luck regardless of what games you play. Therefore, everything is uncertain.
11  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How can we help beginners not to get addicted on: May 19, 2024, 10:20:10 PM

Yes I agree with this opinion, basically it is true that there are actually a lot of things that we can make an example to learn from, or that means we don't need to experience the downturn first to get better because of course as you said that by seeing the downturn that has been experienced by others, it is enough to tell us that it is really not recommended to treat gambling in the wrong way or tend to be excessive.


That's right, basically if we have good sensitivity from the bad experiences that have been experienced by other gamblers, we will use it as useful learning for us so that as far as possible we don't do or stay away from inappropriate behavior like what other gamblers have done. .
But in fact, sometimes we are still not aware of the bad experiences that have happened around us and we sometimes just think it is a normal thing, for whatever reason we are still wrong and we will really regret the careless actions that have occurred. we've already done it.
Therefore, start learning to understand correctly that gambling is very high risk and has a very bad impact on our lives, even the people closest to us will also feel it.
But in some cases, the experience of others are not sufficient for people to learn. Because they think their fate when they gamble are going to be different. They will only realize the mistake after they tried it themselves and experience losing their money. It's not easy to help other gamblers not to fall into addiction because it is still depends on their self control. Therefore, regardless of your effort and reminders when it comes to the do's and dont's in gambling, it's still up to these newbies if they will listen and apply what they learned.
12  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why do some people hide to gamble on: May 18, 2024, 09:56:00 AM
I don't think it exists, any masterable process of hitting consistent profits in gambling. How about a way of limiting those losses. And then build a method of regaining energy to gamble responsibly. Trying to form a means of winning steadily will only consume the player's income and lead to problem gambling. Don't accept the fact that some people do it. That's some social media marketing stuff. People coming up with videos or tweets of their winning. They're either selling some promo codes or course. Their aim is to earn more money by faking their gambling results. Even, experts don't actually have any proven technique that guarantees more profits in gambling.

There are those who are simply engaged in marketing and can simply place bets from an account that is allocated for this, and ordinary players perceive this as a game of an ordinary player and can even repeat after him. Planning in gambling is really difficult, because you cannot predict whether your next bet will be winning or losing, there may be a series of unsuccessful bets, which also affects the result, so it is incredibly difficult to achieve stability in gambling.
There's no such consistent winning in gambling, the reason why the money that we should spend is the one that we can live without since there's no assurance you'll gain. Many gamblers are losing their money even they are determine to win, it's because luck is a major factor to have a good result.

Anyway, it's not surprising if gamblers wants to hide their activity since many people are judgemental and will look down on you if the became aware you are a gambler. Regardless of you're addicted or not, gambling is not a habit for them that one should be proud of.
13  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Another health benefit of online gambling on: May 17, 2024, 11:34:13 PM
Well, if you know that you have a health problem and infectious, be responsible to stay at home. Even the guy is a discipline gamble, he still have to think that he has an illness that can put the health of many at risk.

Anyway, It's understandable to have such worries because you are just concern for your own health. That's the advantage of online casinos since you can still enjoy the games without the need to go outside. This is for gambling. But when it comes to other things, it is still necessary to explore outside (work, physical activities, catching up with friends etc) you still need to explore.
14  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why People Naturally Chase loses in gambling.. on: May 17, 2024, 05:58:28 PM
So, from your own understanding, what do you think makes people chase loses aside greed which I believe many of us are already familier with?.
When we want to recover back our losses, it's not often because of greed but I think it is more on the feeling of unable to accept the fact that you lost your money by playing. The eagerness to recover it is a human nature since we don't want to give up the money especially if our main desire when we decided to use it in gambling is to gain in snap (and that's greed).

Well, it's understandable to have such intention everytime we face losses. However, it's not a good habit since it can only lead to further losses if you can't control yourself. The reason why it is crucial that before you use your money in gambling, be aware of the consequences especially if you're not fortunate to win.
15  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Patience can help alot on: May 16, 2024, 02:01:47 PM
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Sometimes there are gamblers who have lost but want to turn things around so they think "maybe in the next gambling game I will get a win that can turn things around" they hope that luck will come to them, whereas luck cannot be expected to happen as desired, luck will happen with itself. Don't think about being able to reverse the situation, in my opinion it will only make things worse. You have to be patient when gambling, because when the time comes, luck is on your side, then winning cannot be avoided.

Good words, brother. Indeed, nothing affects luck. The fact that you were unlucky many times before doesn't imply that you will be lucky next time or any time soon. Many gamblers do that mistake, believing that luck has some kind of schedule. No, it hasn't. Luck will strike you whenever it wants. It can be several times in a row and it's possible that you won't see it for years.
Indeed. This is one of the reason why we should not be too hopeful when we gamble. Because it doesn't mean a gambler who's fortunate to win a decent amount from the game that he's playing will pass his luck to you. Assuming you'll also have similar experience if you try to play the specific game is not a good idea and can only lead to disappointment. Regardless how many hours you spend in gambling or how much money you use, if you're not lucky, then you're not going to win.
16  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Martingale strategy is a failure if you are consistent with it on: May 15, 2024, 10:44:07 PM
This strategy is double the wage to gain back the losses and double the losses once you fail to win the game, I do strategy of martingale is once I won after lose streak I make another bet from the start like if I wage and lose I use this strategy and then once I earned back my loses and take at least small amount of profit ill go back to the original strategy, well sometimes its quite effective in my part but sometimes of course not, so I keep changing games than taking this strategy.
In my case, I only use martingale when already desperate to gain back fast what I already lost. It would be good if the outcome is what you expected it to be however we know the chances are 50-50 (i'm playing baccarat btw). If you use this strategy, might as well be prepared to lose and refrain from having a high expectation. This is from my experience before since I rarely gamble nowadays due to loads of work. Often, i'm just playing once a week depending if I have a capital.
17  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Does gambling excites you ? on: May 15, 2024, 01:01:41 PM
Hi,

There are always things that we are passionate about doing, such as video games, football, basketball, and sports in general, meaning that everyone has something that excites them and makes them want to do.
Like others, I get very excited when I sit down, take my phone, and start my bets. This does not mean that I am addicted, but rather I find it more comfortable and I have more fun.

Does gambling excites you? What motivates you, winning or just the fun in it ?

While gambling is a fun activity for some and can even add thrill to a mere game played between friends and bring out the best of everyone with a touch of competitiveness, gambling itself might not be very exciting for all IMO  cause it also has a bitter side when your losing and this fun activity can also turn into a destructive habit if not checked and you should be careful about excitement cause that's the road down to addiction in gambling.
Indeed. Some gamblers might be playing to entertain themselves and have fun. Since they can accept the outcome regardless of they win or lose without a bitter feeling.

However, we know not everyone have the same mindset because many gamblers are playing to profit. The one that motivates them to play and use the money that they can't live without. That being said, gambling is exciting if you're in winning streak. But for those who are not able to win, they feel the opposite unless you're solely playing to kill time and to entertain yourself even that means losing your money.
18  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Losing all your fortune with just 3 years on: May 14, 2024, 09:07:26 PM
Rich can spend more in gambling because they have lots of money but it can also lead to losing their fortune since gambling is not an activity to assure someone to double his money. Although the story is sad, this all happened because of his choice. Spending money in gambling, drunk while playing, which is not a good behavior because he is already out of control and continue betting without even thinking of the outcome.

Often, we will only realize and regret our actions after losing our money. It's really hard to earn but it's easy to spend. If you don't value your earnings then this can possibly happen.
19  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is it proper for younger ones to gamble? on: May 13, 2024, 11:30:35 PM
It improper in all forms. Nothing is funny about this, allowing children to gamble should be prohibited and even gambling houses accepting them should be fined or close down, how can children that are supposed to be in school be at the gambling house for what reason?, Money!! Lol.
Indeed. It's because of money. Those betting shops allowing minors to gamble are just after profit. Thus, regardless of the age, anyone can play as long as you have money. If minors are restricted to gamble, then underage gamblers would be lessen somehow. Of course, there's a way for them to play if they really want to since online casinos are already existing. But seeing these kids playing in public, wearing their uniform, is still not good and can only influence other minors to do the same.
20  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is this true or some superstitious believe about gambling? on: May 13, 2024, 05:55:08 PM
i think he's lost too much in gambling before he stopped and is looking for anyway no matter what to discourage people from being like him or he's just being too superstitious. What's your opinion about this please?
Probably this is really the case. He's giving advice based on his experience as a former gambler. Thus, obviously as a gambler with such past, it's just normal to discourage others to not gamble. Because it can really lead to addiction if a person has no control (he's quite right about that).

However, I don't agree that gambling is satanic and there's a demons behind casino. Keep in mind, casino is a business, and it's in the gambler's discretion on how they want gambling to affect them. There are gamblers who can play in moderation and doing fine. Because it depends on the gambler itself and not the casino. You became addicted? Well, it's because you have no discipline.
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