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421  Economy / Gambling / Re: "Exploring RITZ Sports Bet: The Future of Decentralized and Centralized Betting on: January 15, 2024, 11:34:29 PM
Hybrid sports betting house model. This model combines the trust and transparency of decentralized platforms with the efficiency and ease of use of centralized systems. How do you think this combination will impact the sports betting user experience? Will it increase trust and confidence, or are there potential challenges to be wary of?

Additionally, as blockchain and cryptocurrencies continue to disrupt multiple industries, what unique opportunities and challenges do you foresee for platforms like RITZ Sports Bet in navigating decentralized and centralized worlds?

Let's start a discussion about the potential of hybrid betting platforms in the crypto era. Share your insights, predictions and any questions


Not sure what you mean by hybrid. Sounds more like a marketing slogan, to me.

Either it is decentralized or it is not. There is no 60% decentralized, 40% centralized. If it is in any way centralized, then it is not decentralized. Look at the Binance chain, for example. It is a Proof-Of-Stake chain with 21 validators and 11 of those are responsible for the governance. Obviously those validators will have a strong relationship with Binance. You could also call that chain a "hybrid" but it would still not make it into something it is not.

Is it truly decentralized? Not to me.



422  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What if authorities launch a tax for owning bitcoin? on: January 15, 2024, 09:52:46 AM
It's just YouTube, but today I ran across a video that mentioned a bitcoin HODL tax.

In order to stop bitcoin, authorities would have to shut down the internet which is impossible. So I predict that their next move is to launch enormous taxes to discourage people from owning bitcoin, and prevent mass adoption as competition for their corrupted CBDC's that still have to be launched. The purpose of their regulations is to take over the entire bitcoin market, of course. They will make you sell, either by launching huge taxes for ownership or by treating the owner of 1 BTC like a drug dealer (prison sentence).

So we need a gameplan against this.

~snip

Can I transfer the BTC from my current address, to an address that no government can ever link to me?




The Government is not about to start making up new laws just to tax Bitcoin. I wish they did. That would really piss people off and finally motivate the community to raise the pressure on the next gen development of the Bitcoin market. I imagine that will lead to a more anonymized and decentralized market. I would love to see new BTC adoptees being welcomed by the community and freeing themselves of fiat slavery (Especially talking about freeing their minds of the psychological bonds that come with growing up with a centralized money system).

But Fiat is way more anonymous than Bitcoin (which was never designed to be anonymous). Although BTC can be made anonymous (but we are not allowed to talk about the M word anymore. Because it does not exist Roll Eyes).


  
423  Economy / Gambling / Re: 🔥🔥🔥 BC.GAME - CASINO AND SPORTSBOOK | $1,000 GIVEAWAY LIVE! 🔥🔥🔥 on: January 15, 2024, 08:18:14 AM
This website is a 100% scam stay away from it. I got through the survey after I tried to withdraw money from my account they locked it and said I had to deposit $30 in my account and wagger 60X to be able to withdraw.

STAY AWAY FROM THIS SITE!!!
Your claim that the website is a scam seems baseless without concrete evidence. If you don't mind, could you post at least some screenshots? I've been playing here at bc.game for a few months without any issues. Verify such allegations with proof before labeling a site as a scam. Requiring a wager for that survey bonus is not a scam. However, the time I got my bonus by answering that survey had no wager requirement. Don't know about the 2nd batch.

Unless he has any kind of actual, concrete proof, I would think that he is just a disgruntled gambler who lost all of his money because he could not stop himself. Or he did something against the terms of service of the online casino. And now his account is banned and he cannot do anything.

He should know that accusations without proof could be considered libel/slander. Venting frustrations can become problematic. Thats why adults don't act like this.

But on the internet.... Who knows how old somebody really is in real life. Many things make sense again, if it turns out that he was just a kid behind the keyboard  Roll Eyes
424  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Know when to stop on: January 15, 2024, 07:06:13 AM
One of the most important factor of a successful gambler is to know when to stop, most gamblers expecially the addictive type don't even know what is stop when it comes to gambling. So it's very important to;
* Stop when your losing is now getting to you.

* Stop when you are now feeling as is you can't do without gambling.

* Stop when you have a big winning, by channeling the money somewhere else so you won't lose it back to gambling.

* Stop when you are not even winning at all, it's not your thing.

* When your losing is weighing you down, stop and restrategize .

I can completely agree with you on your points and they are already something which most gamblers tend to follow. But in reality, things look a bit different. People can be as careful as they like, but now and again they tend to lose themselves. It is just human nature. One way to lessen the risk of it happening, you would have to train yourself in your self-discipline. But that seems a bit impossible for people in the world of gamblers.

The fun of risk-taking seems to be viewed differently by people. For me, I can gamble with small amounts of money and get my fun. Others only seem to like risking their entire funds.

Gamblers will remain gamblers.

425  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin as P2P currency vs Bitcoin as an asset on: January 14, 2024, 09:10:53 PM

Overtime multiple debates have been raised concerning Bitcoin losing its adoption as a P2P currency. A lot users who transact with little amounts of Bitcoins during intervals seem to be in support of loss in Bitcoin P2P adoption. However some other users especially business men who transact non stop with Bitcoin on a larger scale, seem to have the opinion that the adoption rate is quite ok. Of course no one is happy when transacting with Bitcoin during periods of high conjestions as fees can be sometimes annoying.

Nevertheless, Bitcoin has maintained a nice reputation for so long it has now become a wise choice for investment, hence the term hodling. Hodling has also become a topic of interest for Bitcoiners due to its ease and nice returns as time goes on. Due to this Bitcoin now seems more like a nice investment than a P2P currency to a large variety of hodlers.

This is not to say that a lot of person do not  engage equally in both P2P transactions and Hodling. But to see what a majority of Bitcoiners view Bitcoin as. I added a poll to this post so I recommend you venture casting a vote on what aspect you use Bitcoin the most.

Don't forget to keep your keys safe

I do not see why Bitcoin would lose its adoption as a p2p currency. But as far as transactions go, the problem with ordinals needs to be solved before we start making long-term assumptions on which groups lose their rate of adoption. And while we have lightning, it is not yet as adopted as it might be someday. And it would not be a permanent solution to the ordinal parasites. Bitcoin works, but if we want to optimize Bitcoin then we need more long term thinking on solutions.

Bitcoin is the most important asset. And that is not going to be changing anytime soon.
426  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Hypothetical ETF disaster hardfork on: January 14, 2024, 07:18:23 PM
I think you might be underestimating the scale of the attack. The amount of payroll money alone.... How many people would you need to put on the payroll and for how much money?
Some Bitcoin Core devs are already on payrolls of Bitcoin service providers (Blockstream being probably the most well-known example). When we talk about developer influence on the public opinion in the community, then quality -- i.e. that these devs are "respected voices" -- is also more important than quantity.

I don't see it that way. Without real authority over Bitcoin, popular devs are just members of the top influencer club. And their values must align with the values of Bitcoin. Otherwise it would be like running for president of the US while wearing a North Korean flag pin. I think if devs want to stay popular, they do what the community has committed to their values.

As I understand it, the Blockstream conspiracy is about the Bitcoin Cash community being butthurt about the Bilderberg Group aquiring a company (supposedly) soley dedicated to Bitcoin. And they are going completely insane and claiming that Bitcoin is now somehow being taken over because they already had a conspiracy theory about Bilderberg and this new conspiracy theory about BTC, which builds on top of the first conspiracy theory about Bilderberg, somehow proves the first theory and therefore also proves the second one.

There isn't such a "number" or "limit". All decentralized systems can eventually degenerate. Bitcoin has however fortunately a quite good balance between powers, so the probability of a successful attack is much lower than it was in Ethereum where the rollback finally occured quite fastly.

I mean the amount of effort it would take to attack Bitcoin is much different than the amount of effort it would take to attack some random unpopular altcoin (based on a clone btc blockchain). And even then, the damage would be reversible.

The more decentralized something is, the more secure it becomes.
427  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 14, 2024, 06:33:34 AM
Cathy Wood says..btc could be at 1.5mil by 2030 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5NB8MHe3Nw), which is almost 40X in 7 years.
This assumes that btc growth rate in the next 7 years would be roughly the same as in the last 7 (as bitcoin is roughly 40X from 7 years ago).
All by itself, it is EXACTLY what means that the asset is in an exponential growth phase (and not log-log).

Personally, I feel that chances for this, without rampaging inflation, are maybe 20-30%, but I favor a much smaller number, maybe 500-600K by 2030 (that would still mean 42-47% average yearly ROI, which is at least 3X that of Nasdaq).



What are you doing, pal/gal?

EDIT: satirical pseudo 'nazis' from "Starship troopers" are not really inspiring, though.



Now that I think of it, I did feel like they were some kind of space 'nazis'. Does that mean the bugs are the representation of the jews? Is the producer a secret nazi? How deep does this Starship Trooper rabbit hole go?
428  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Hypothetical ETF disaster hardfork on: January 14, 2024, 01:46:10 AM
I was looking for some ETF news and apparently the VanEck one will pledge 5% of earnings to "Bitcoin core developers" during the next 10 years from the money they'll make on fees.

I imagined an hypothetical scenario where there is a massive hack or some sort of a disaster scenario where there are massive losses, and now those same good samaritans that are funding developers start pushing a campaign to engineer a rollback of the blockchain Vitalik style. What would happen? If in the future ETF holders become the 99% and 1% are self-custodians, then it will be on their interest to push this agenda. What if they have enough % of developers under their payroll, and enough people supporting it because they lost their money, and start pushing for a hard fork? What would be the game theory outcome scenarios at play here?

This could be applied to any other narrative to come up with a hardfork. Like, BTC pollutes the environment, let's go to PoS, or this and that. But the one I could see coming, is seeing a massive loss and then angry people wanting a rollback and start campaigning to pass laws that force developers to do this and so on. Most custodians are using Coinbase, but some will be self-custodians, Fidelity being one of them. I expect their efforts to pass such hardfork to fail, but who knows if like I said, most people in the future depend on ETFs and start pushing for laws to "protect investors" that force developers and miners to do rollback plans and so on. This sounds ridiculous now but you never know.

Why are you thinking about ETF's? Have you forgotten that Bitcoin is not an ETF? Roll Eyes And neither is it Ethereum (thank Satoshi!)
ETF is just a very important tool for more Bitcoin adoption.

Your disaster scenario is impossible, as many others have already pointed out in detail. No further need for explanation. Bitcoin is awesome, decentralization is awesome. Blockchain is super awesome.  

Actually I think the scenario described in the OP is perfectly possible if enough custodial Bitcoin services (ETF companies, exchanges etc.) collude and the community is so indifferent towards Bitcoin's original "values" that it accepts it.

Developers on a payroll can be an element in such an "attack". Not because of the needed skills for the code changes, e.g. to roll back a transaction (I think that even I could do that, even with VERY limited C++ knowledge), but because of the influence of renowned devs like the current Core group on public opinion in the community. We've seen that already in the block size debate. I think if most Core developers hadn't taken such a strong stance for Segwit and a restrictive block size policy, then the current "Bitcoin" could actually be BCash or even BSV (which in my opinion would have been a much worse outcome).

Miners will follow the chain where they believe the value "is at" - if there are several options, they'd chose the one they think the community as a whole would pay more money (or other values) for a coin. Here, colluding services providers could be a big problem, not only because they directly demand Bitcoins, but also because they have also influence over the community's "collective opinion", above all over the more indifferent part of the Bitcoin users - those who only want to invest in Bitcoin and don't care that much about the deeper qualities like immutability.

However, if there are enough influencial voices in the community insisting exactly on these "deeper" qualities, then I believe the "attack" would fail, like BCash failed.

I think you might be underestimating the scale of the attack. The amount of payroll money alone.... How many people would you need to put on the payroll and for how much money? How decentralized does something have to be to make it 'technically impossible' to attack in such a way?
429  Economy / Gambling / Re: Sports betting arbitrage on: January 14, 2024, 12:13:32 AM
Sports betting arbitrage is a strategy in which a player takes advantage of discrepancies in the odds offered by sportbetting sites to obtain profit. Have any of you tried to make money this way? what difficulties did you encounter? What bookmakers did you use? Have any of you had problems with bookmakers because of this? Why does it bother them anyway?

You should probably not do Sports betting arbitrage as that can easily be seen as breaking the terms and conditions of your online casino account. A lot of casinos warn against doing arbitrage explicitly! You might get caught and you account as well as your funds would get frozen. You might have a really hard time to get your account back, if at all possible. And getting your funds back will not be easy, either. There will be lots of hoops for you to jump through, for a long time. I have heard stories of such things taking months to clear up.

I have no idea why it bothers bookmakers.
430  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What ugly incident or occurrence have you ever experienced in gambling? on: January 13, 2024, 10:54:02 PM


Have you been faced with this kind of gambling problem? If not this particular one, what other annoying incident have you ever experienced in gambling?

On that video, what happened was that a dude from South Africa was gambling on a casino site known as Betway. The guy staked ZAR 277.08, and when he started the round, he got about 4,870.24x multiplier, which doubled his staked amount up to ZAR 73,059, which is about $3,900+. he lost the money because he was unable to cash out before he crashed.

In my case, I have not actually experienced any situation like that, apart from the usual disappointment you will experience with a club after you place a bet on them, believing so firmly that nothing will stop that club from winning, but they end up losing.

Well that's just bad luck. I do have experienced such BS, indeed. I wonder if somebody can be legally made responsible for devices failing (other than yourself, of course). I do not mean to sue anyone, I am just curious what the legal situation would look like? Huh

Still, 3.9k USD is not the world. It is a lot of money but it too will someday, in the near future be gone. Unless he was smart enough to make an investment with it instead of gambling. I am 99% sure that even if he did win that money, he would have continued gambling with it and have lost it anyway. Most people cannot resist the urge to think of themselves as invincible whenever they think lady luck is 'with them'.


431  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Land-based Casino Enjoyers are something else. on: January 12, 2024, 10:52:53 PM
I was scrolling on my social media feeds one day until a very close friend of mine showed me a meme vid. We usually send memes to each other as our little way of communicating which I think some of you guys will get, but this one not only cracked me up, it also kind of opened my eyes at how fucked up Brick-and-Mortar Casino Enjoyers could be if they tried.

GIRL SITS AT CASINO SLOT MACHINE CHAIR TO PEE

Watching this "meme vid" or whatever made me curious enough to dig into this little rabbit hole where I see casino gamblers, particularly those who play slot, go bonkers and I mean like literal mental while playing slots. I mean most of them are depicted to even claw at the screen as if it's going to do anything.

I gotta say man, I know gambling for some people is bad but when they say it's bad I didn't think it'd be this worse lol. Oh well, all the more reasons to avoid the land-casinos I guess.

Well, going by the video I can only say one thing: People are gross. It does not really matter if they are gross inside a casino or inside some other building. I think the problem with some casinos are that they encourage drinking alcohol and do not really watch for people who get too drunk. Many land based casinos have introduced drink maximums because of this.

I used to enjoy land based casinos but they just are not the same anymore as the ones 20-30 years ago. Too many restrictions, payment options are digital, even the coin slot machines no longer have coins. Might as well stay home, since tapping on a screen or button is all they give you to do. Roll Eyes
432  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: How do I succeed as a trader in 2024 on: January 12, 2024, 10:44:48 PM
As we enter the 2024, many people are making plans on how to achieve financial success and personally I have decided that trading will be one of my area of focus. I'm gathering information on how to go about it. Your opinion will be highly appreciated.

As a veteran trader since 2012, let me tell you about the pitfalls and how to avoid them:

1. Do not flip flop between trades (buying and selling then buying again and selling again and so on...). You will grind your money away with trading fees, even if you do not make any trading losses. And those fees can add up faster than you realize.

2. Do not buy/sell on "feelings" or on short term FUD or FOMO news that you might see on social media or the news.

3. Practice trading on a test server with test Bitcoin/other cryptocurrency. You will likely lose money in your first years of trading before you you learn how to trade on a profit. Better to lose fake money than real money.

4. Do not listen to any influencers/trading signals/insider groups. They are all scams.

5. Buy on lows and do so incrementally. DCA is your friend if you need a simple tactic.

6. Losing Bitcoin is worse than losing the dollar worth. 1 BTC = 1 BTC. Its better to have more Bitcoin, even if the fiat price is dropping.
433  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Justification for crime on: January 12, 2024, 08:19:59 PM
I agree the world is not completely black and white there are also grey areas where lawyers are to explore
this is why there are some holes in the law because the law is followed word for word
but if there is a chance that it can be perceived differently then a crime can be justified





Yeah, I would have to agree with that assessment.

Laws are laws but enforcing them strictly like robots is not going to work. There are too many factors of circumstances that go into it. That is why we need humans to study the situation and arbitrate. However we can all agree that motivation for a crime is also extremely important. If someone committed a murder because he knew his family was in danger of being murdered and he thought that he had no other choice, then that is a different case from a guy who killed someone just because he was angry at them for whatever reason.

Second guy obviously deserves a much harsher punishment.
434  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: What do you think about TON? on: January 12, 2024, 07:15:57 PM
I've invested some money in it and waiting for its growth but it's kinda stable rn. Also I'm wodering should i invest more moeny in it or no. When do you think it will grow and will it grow at all? Really want to hear the opinion of some more experienced traders

Well, TON definitely has room to grow since it is a blockchain that developers can easily built upon, and Telegram is extremely popular, especially with the cryptocurrency crowd. However due to so many scam accusations and combined with the anonymous nature of Telegram, it does not seem like a very trustworthy app when it comes to trust and money. Also, the app developing is quite limited. Meaning there is only so much you can build on top of TON. If Telegram itself were to become unpopular (because something better came out) then the entire TON blockchain would become irrelevant as well as all the apps on it.

I just see too many weak spots to be comfortable with investing in TON.
435  Economy / Economics / Re: How to stay poor! on: January 12, 2024, 05:57:33 PM
As a businessman or salary earners here are tips on how to stay poor in life. Grin

1. Spending your money on unnecessary items immediately the money arrives. Trying to prove a point to people by living a standard that is above your pay grade.

2. Live on one source of income. Everyday of our life our responsibilities and challenges keeps piling up accumulating without consideration to our financial capability. The economy and cost of living continue getting worsen. So in order not to be able to beat this piling settle comfortably on a single source of income flow.

3. Become an extremely cheerful giver/lender to friends and family. A wisdom quote I read somewhere said, "if you want to lose your friends and family lend them money".  Keeping doing this and you going to be successfully poor.

4.Learn how not to mind your own business, making every events around you your concern even when it doesn't affect you. It's a nice way to make cool enemies. Etc.


I trust you all get the sarcasm as conveyed.

The "living on one single source of income" is the biggest mistake that I have seen people make. I mean, seriously, why would anyone put all their eggs into one basket (their job)? What if they lose their job? A lot of people seem to think that they cannot lose their job because their boss is such a nice guy or because they are so important to the company because they have been working there for so many years...

But the reality is, no matter how long you work at your job, if your company decides you are not needed, your loyalty means nothing.
436  Economy / Gambling / Re: PvP Games in Casinos | What's your thoughts? on: January 12, 2024, 05:13:33 PM
if you ever played runescape, then this game will reminds you since it's actually same but with different characters. This game also has 0% house edge, so it all depends on how good your character and you can maximize the profit if you win.

Unfortunately I don't really know with the other casino that offer PvP games.

I have never tried it out before, but from what I can currently see, in the observer mode, the whole duel arena thing seems to be unbelievably laggy and completely unplayable. Is it the same for everyone or is it just me?

Furthermore, I wonder if people are using bots to cheat in this game? If its based on reaction time or strategy instead of luck, then I think there is too much danger of player action automation (think aimbot, for example).

I think I will stick to the luck based games only.
437  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin ETF officially approved! on: January 11, 2024, 08:55:08 PM
Approved is fine and dandy, but until we see some trading, we will not see the results of this approval (other than the speculative side, of course). So thats begs the question of when will the trading finally be unlocked? Is there any kind of deadlines or information from the institutional investors who filed for the Bitcoin ETf and got approved? I see a lot of chances for market manipulation. We have seen such obvious manipulation with SEC FUD and FOMO over the last weeks (remember Matrixport?). To be honest, I completely expect to see (more) insider trading and FUD over the next weeks. The ETF unlocking event might just be another tool they use to shift the market in their favor.
438  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Does signing up with affiliate links gives these benefits? on: January 11, 2024, 06:53:11 PM
Many youtubers and friends share their referral codes/affiliate links, saying you will get bonuses, real money, or free spins. but I wonder if casinos give extra help or benefits in some different situations.

For example, when someone wins a big multiplier and multiplies their account by 100x, then some casinos take a long time to process the withdrawal, or they may not even give the money. however, some say that if you sign up using a good affiliate or influencer affiliate code which have huge audience, then you won't face these type issues. also, if you promote the casino using your referral link, they might not hold back your withdrawal because you helped them get new customers.

is this kind of things is considered shady practice, or is it considered fair in the online gambling world?

If the casino has such an affiliate agreement with the youtuber/influencer/friend, and has a good reputation, then obviously they will not dare try to lie to you for such a little thing as a bonus. That would damage their reputation severely. Although I cannot give any guarantees that the one doing the referalls might or might not tell the truth or the whole truth. It is something on a case-to-case basis and you have to do your own research on that.

I have not had any bad experiences such as being lied to about bonuses, so that is all I can tell you about that topic.
439  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 11, 2024, 06:30:41 PM
Bear trap on the 4 hour chart. But you guys already know that Roll Eyes

So, still no ETF trading, just yet?
440  Economy / Gambling / Re: Casinos not asking for KYC to register and play, but do require it to withdraw on: January 11, 2024, 08:39:56 AM
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Absolutely reading the entire Terms and conditions is very good cause we all know that s trusted or reputable casino have their own terms and conditions which pretty sure they will put all there wants, does and don'ts in their casino. Anyways there are still many casino who are doing this even though they don't have terms and conditions in short they are all scam casino. But if a casino is trusted and reputable then they will do this once they found that your account is being suspected or commit a mistake by there rules.
Terms and conditions and KYC are all good, they keep both parties in good understanding and guarantee and also increase the level of trust and help know the customer, nevertheless, casinos could still use it as a weapon, and they are at their discretion to do and undo in the case of KYC asking. I have even seen the casinos that claim they are no-KYC but later ask for the completion of KYC from certain customers, and if you asked them why, they would say in some rare circumstances if they suspect a customer. You should know that something is fishy.

This is mostly because the customer is winning or good at what he does, they will now see him as a threat to them and will continue to make excuses to either kick him out or not to pay his money. I said all that because it is all about the terms and conditions when you ask most of them, and these terms and conditions are often too big for many to read, even some who try to read them might not fully understand most of them. Despite that, we should just try, it is good to read them and get acquainted with where we commit our money, nonetheless, it will not exonerate anyone completely from the rod of the casino as they might be using it as an excuse for one thing or the other. All that is good is to work with a casino that is somewhat good and trusted by many, maybe you will not have any issues with them.

I think that if every time a user registered the casino would have to do KYC (as they are required to do by law), they would face themselves with lots of work because of small accounts. In such smaller, yet more numerous cases, the casino team would be overworked and doing nothing but checking KYCs all day. And realistically, checking an account that came to gamble tiny amounts of money, it is not worth it. While the regulators are looking over their shoulders, I am guessing they have no choice but to implement a KYC on certain accounts with certain amounts of money. I think if the casino could throw the whole KYC thing out of the window, they would.

Although it does seem a bit deceitful and if they asked for KYC upfront, it would make people feel safer.
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