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1261  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Why was Ordinal NFTs created? on: May 12, 2023, 04:34:33 PM
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Sorry, I don't think that makes sense. What should be the advantage of PoS when dealing with Ordinals? Ordinals even benefits miners, so it re-assures the current PoW model.

Just because the miners are benefiting does not mean this NFT/memecoin fad is good for Bitcoin. POS has nothing to do with ordinals but rather I am talking about POW being forced into a corner and people might start seeing the switch to POS as an easy option in order to decrease the congestion as well as the transaction fees (by upping the scalability of the blockchain.)

Take a look at what happened to Ethereum once the PoW started showing the weakness of congestion and ridiculously high transaction costs. That became the main argument for the switch to POS. But they sacrificed their decentralization for it. I am simply connecting the dots and seeing something similiar happening to Bitcoin, because of ordinals.

Sure, there might be a different solution, but nobody has proposed one yet. I just hope this is not what pushes Bitcoiners towards accepting POS.
1262  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The fall of crypto influencers. on: May 12, 2023, 02:32:32 PM
It is way too easy to become a "crypto influencer". What they do to become famous is very easy and has been documented many times already. First, the rent out a lamborghini, then they rent out many expensives things, clothes, a large house, and so on... All that is left is to make a video with beautiful women and tell everyone how they made an amazing amount of money in a very short amount of time with nothing but crypto. And they are more than happy to let you in on the secret, for a fee.

It does trick the desperate and the greedy people but anyone with half a brain can see through their scam.

That is why I avoid following EVERY and ANY influencer. Its all fake and scripted.
1263  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Slots 101: Basics, Strategies, and Discussion (with poll) on: May 12, 2023, 01:05:08 PM
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Well, it should be like this, don't you think? Bonuses are there to make people "taste" the game, and then, if they like it, they must deposit to play more. Although, it's not exactly like that. Firstly, you can play in demo mode for free as much as you want. Secondly, there are exceptions. I myself won a withdrawable amount couple of times on various sites, starting with just bonus money.

Yeah, a bonus is simply to give a bit of a boost to a player.

If it was something were people actually could withdraw the whole amount without playing and putting some money in, then a lot of people would simply take the money out, making it not work for the casino at all.

The thing is that if people can do it, they will do it.

They will. Not all of them, but might be enough for a casino to go bankrupt. The algorithm for the whole process of a bonus program should be something that allows some gamblers to win big and withdraw, to spread the news, and, on the other hand, something that doesn't make the company to go over their promotional budget. It's good if the company is big enough to allow some unexpected expenses, but for a small company it can be a challenge.

All it takes is one attacker with different IP addresses and a simple bot script to automate the process of using dummy accounts to keep withdrawing bonuses until they have driven the casino to ruin. Although I doubt that would happen without any casino staff noticing something but it could happen over a short period of time before anyone can do anything.

The casino has to make sure their promotion system cannot be exploited. This is probably somewhat of a challenge for smaller/newer casinos that do not have the budget for security audits. But common sense alone should prevent them from implementing unnecessary rules like withdrawing bonuses without having to play with their own money first...
1264  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: sending bank statement for verification on: May 12, 2023, 12:18:34 PM
i registered at an online casino and my deposit was not arrived(in casiono) and i contact to their support and they said you need to wait for 10 business days for your refund.

10days are completed and i still didn't received my refund, and they told that "if you don't receive your refund in 10 days then you can contact us with your bank statement"

my question is, is it safe to share bank account statement for verification purposes?  the site is reputable, but in bank statement all my information are available. is it safe to share?

Was your deposit in crypto? If not, then this topic does not really belong on a Bitcoin forum.

Whether a casino is reputable or not should not be a subjective thing. You should tell us the name of the casino.

I have not heard of any casino asking for a bank account statement for verification purposes and that seems a bit strange, to be honest.

If you give a bad actor enough information, they could easily identity theft you and take out loans in your name, and do much much more damage than you would have thought possible. You should be really careful with personal information and giving away pictures of government documents, such as ID, Passports, and so on...

Where is the casino in question registered? Did you read the terms and conditions of the casino?
1265  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Advice when you are going a bit far in gaming and betting on: May 12, 2023, 12:07:45 AM
This is just the basics, but anyone should be aware of it:

Budget: set it BEFORE you start gambling and stick to it.
Have a break from time to time, it is important to let your brain stop and consider.
Avoid drugs / drink as much as possible, they will make you loose some control innevitably.
Seek help if you feel you are no longer in control. Make a phone call to a friend or go out and speak with someone.

Anything else anyone can think of? Like... read this post before gambling? Tongue

I totally agree with the part of pre-planning a budget before you start your gambling. That is a very responsible way to save yourself from losing all your money. Also, perhaps inviting a friend to hold your budget for you and ask him to not give you any of your money in the case that you should feel like you are starting to lose control. That might also be a smart precaution to take? Grin

Avoiding alcohol intake during gambling might take the fun out of gambling for some people. Its basically part of the entire gambling experience, is it not? Unless of course you have had a drinking problem in the past. If you had an addiction problem In that case it would be better to stay away anything which can be considered addictive. Gambling included.
1266  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Another betting fraud in Brazil - part 2 on: May 11, 2023, 04:39:47 PM
That should be expect to happen in Brazil, where corruption is recognized as one of the main traits of the nation, besides the fact sportsbooks are insanely popular right now. If you watch any games on the television you will have an impression the championship is fully sponsored by bet houses, because there are so many of them everywhere! They are on the TV's propagandas, players' uniforms, field's ads, press conference's ads...

There are popular local celebrities and athletes promoting sportsbooks as well. It was just a matter of time until some wicked players started being recruited by scam schemes involving frauds on sports matches. Since they are greedy for money, and for some reason can't improve performance on the field, they appeal to cheatery and illegality. That is the final result: an industry you can't trust anymore...

Although in this particular case, the players themselves are heavily involved in the fraud, it just goes to show the intentional lack of regulations and laws. It all comes down to the politicians making this possible. I would not be surprised if the latest betting fraud in Brazil filled up some politicians pockets up to the brim. If they really wanted to fight this kind of corruption, they could easily do so. They would only have to look at other countries as an example. But I doubt it will ever happen. Too many bribes in the wrong hands.

Seems sad, really. Seeing as football is a national treasure for Brazil. You would think they would treat it with more honor and reverance... Roll Eyes

The fact that the article calls it soccer is laughable. I hate that word. I mean seriously, who call its soccer?
1267  Economy / Gambling / Re: Sports betting into the hands of Web3 users|can we design DEX for sports beting? on: May 11, 2023, 03:58:10 PM
Hello and welcome to the Bitcointalk forum! Hopefully you can achieve being the first real decentralized sports betting service. Although I am not sure how you will go about doing it.

Do you have a whitepaper or something which explains the technical parts a bit more in detail?

As I understand it, current betting services which claim to be "decentralized" are actually pseudo-centralized in nature and there are still centralized entities that can withhold or block winnings or funds in one way or another. The reason being that mostly regulation laws but also the fact that gambling is too complex to fully decentralize as a web3 service.

How are you planning to move around this problem?
1268  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Why was Ordinal NFTs created? on: May 11, 2023, 03:18:47 PM
Our options seem to be running out and it seems that Ordinals will not go away, even if we were to restore the pre-taproot transaction size limit or introduce some filter method.

So can we assume the very goal of Ordinals is to be a coordinated attack on Bitcoin, to push Bitcoin out of the competition or, more likely, push Bitcoin towards a POS consensus? If the second hypothesis is true, then who would have the most to gain? Who would have the most control over Bitcoin?

When ETH became POS we saw three addresses that had almost half of all Ethereum. That was a very dangerous moment of decentralization for ETH. But could this decentralization happen to Bitcoin?

I think that no matter how dire the situation becomes, we should steer clear of POS. It feels like a trap that we are being cornered into.
1269  Other / Serious discussion / Re: Do you be in reincarnation? on: May 10, 2023, 11:54:53 PM
I personally do not see a need for reincarnation. I see life as a whole. Our minds separated from each other, giving us the mere illusion of individual consciousness. But what are we really? The universe observing itself. A singularity, expanding and dividing into infinite pieces and rearranging into strange patterns, yet still puzzle pieces which fit the same puzzle.

At the quantum level, our only differences are the quantifiable. No proton is different from another proton. No electron distinguishable from the other.
1270  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 10, 2023, 09:47:17 PM


1271  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: BRC-20 needs to be removed on: May 10, 2023, 07:20:35 PM
With this confidence and the innocence you have, I am sure they (the attacker) gave up on the fees on the Ethereum Network that spiralled past $100 even when they had hundreds of thousands of Dollars in their pockets after selling scam coins to gullible traders.  Grin

Our hope is the congestion stops when the hype dies down, but let say it continues for 2–3 years like it happened in another network. What next?
How many of us do you think will start using alternative networks in order to make transactions?

Only time can tell how long that is going to take or how long we will have to keep enduring high fees. But I believe the attack to be unsustainable. There is a limit to the number of idiots who buy NFTs/scamcoins. If that makes me naive, then so be it.

BRC-20 is a useless parasitic existence which needs to definitely be removed. If that means rolling back Taproot, then I am all for it. Althought personally I doubt that the attacks will be a long term thing. Hopefully this is just a dumb fad which will calm down and even perhaps die out, over time.

I would not call it a "fatal flaw which can bring an end to Bitcoin". Its rather an irritating thing which can and will be carved out of the Bitcoin chain "ecosystem".



1272  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Referral bonuses are waste of time on: May 10, 2023, 05:30:52 PM
I tried not to write in this thread. But I can't stop myself from writing some words!

This is a bullshit topic. What did we get from this topic? Do we need to discuss whether a referral bonus is a waste? Everyone is free to work for their referral. Big companies are working with just Referral income. What is the point of this thread? The title triggered a lot of people, and we saw useless signature spam replies. The discussion is still going. What new answers have we got? Pretty much the same responses from everyone. I suggest OP lock this thread.
The dude stated his mind and what he thinks about referral bonuses, don't call it bullshit, because when ever you create a thread, you do So on the emphasis of what you think concerning the topic you are or want to discuss, and can I tell you something?, not everyone will like your topic or subject of discussion, but that does not really mean  it's bullshit.

Would have been better if you held yourself from writing here, the report button is there, would have been better if you used it rather than say what you say here, I am a believer of, "if you have nothing good to say or contribute to someone else's efforts, ignore and keep quiet".

By the way, if you think comments from other users are useless signature spam replies, what exactly do you think yours is? It's an honest question.

Ironically, his entire rant about "useless signature spam replies" is a useless signature spam reply in itself. So I am guessing he had nothing to add to the discussion so he decided to write something unhelpful and toxic. Whether his bounty manager thinks that that is a pay-worthy post is questionable...

Just because not everyone is a genius who knows how to maximize their profits with referral bonuses does not mean that the entire topic is not worth talking about in the first place...

I think referrals are important to talk about. The discussion could help someone with a low income earn more money. Or they could learn something new. Its obviously not a waste of time, as the previous poster claims... Roll Eyes
1273  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: BRC-20 needs to be removed on: May 10, 2023, 02:43:57 PM
Bitcoin was designed as a method for peer-to-peer exchanges (see quote from Satoshi in sig). It was not originally intended to support tokens or smart contracts.

Bitcoin has essentially become digital gold. These changes are breaking the network and eroding the years of trust that Bitcoin has created. This is what gives it value.

Bitcoin will never offer the transactions per second to support these type of transactions. There are many altcoins that do a better job of providing this utility. Let them do that.

The change to allow BRC-20 in Taproot needs to be rolled back. This is a dangerous, fatal flaw to the network that could be used to bring an end to Bitcoin.

What are your thoughts? Should BRC-20 be removed? What is the best way to do this?

I doubt there is any need for concern over the whole BRC-20 debacle. The truth is that its not sustainable for the attacker, while profitable for the miners and irritating for the Bitcoiners making transactions.

In the worst case scenario, a soft fork will cut out the entire system but at the same time who is to say it will not return under a different disguise?

I am not worried. The only reason why money launderers and scammers are so interested in it right now is because its heavily unregulated. Its still a separated market, though. And without a means of trade such as a centralized exchange, there is no point to it, making BRC20 incredibly centralized. Once its declared a security, which it most likely will be, nobody will want to touch it.
1274  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you prefer Original Slots or slots from 3rd party Slot providers? on: May 09, 2023, 09:14:39 PM
This goes out to all the Slot players out there.....

A lot of casinos have their own original Slots that are unique to their casino, most of these consist of a variation of old games with a personal twist from that casino. (Example : Crash - Different themes like planes / stock market / athlete running etc..)

Then you get 3rd party Slot providers like Pragmatic / Hacksaw Gaming etc.. that provides Slot games to casinos.

My question is this, which one of the two do you prefer and why do you like it more than the other. (Original vs 3rd Party Slots)

Let's discuss ....  Wink

I do not really think about third party slot providers when I play.

While I play only on trusted casinos, that I can believe would not lie about their slot audits or the fair game play, but I have honestly never been able to detect which slot games are from a third party provider and which is an original slot game by the casino itself. To me, its enough that the casino is reputably fair and secure.

I guess the only telltale sign could be that the same slot game is available on other online gambling casino platforms?

You could try to email/message the casino itself and ask about which slot games are original and which are not. I am sure they would tell you.
1275  Economy / Economics / Re: Are you ready to spend crypto when market is down on: May 09, 2023, 08:02:41 PM
Hello Everyone,

I am not speaking about just Bitcoin. I am speaking about every cryptocurrency / token.  Regardless of crypto price fluctuations, many online and offline stores are ready to accept crypto as payment. So How will willing are you to spend crypto for your purchases?

If one doesn't spend their crypto for purchases and wait for to spend their crypto when its price is nice, are they really considering it as a cryptocurrency or can we assume like those people are treating more like a security or investment instrument?



Spending crypto when the market is down is a waste. Because the market will be up again soon and since we know that, spending during down times is just throwing money away.

It always goes up and down and up and down.

Remember that one guy who bought a pizza with what is now considered millions of dollars worth of Bitcoin? Thats the guy I think about whenever I get the urge to sell or trade my crypto for something else. Although specifically I am talking about Bitcoin, perhaps the situation is exactly the opposite with scam coins. It might be better to spend them before they become worthless...
1276  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Which wallet should be used to keep bitcoin safe? on: May 09, 2023, 03:02:02 PM

Trust wallet, mycelium and electrum which of these three wallets is the most secure?
Which wallet would be better than these three wallets?
I bought Bitcoin from kucoin, so far it's in kucoin

This is more of a question you could ask in the Beginners & Help section of the Bitcointalk forum but I will gladly answer your question:

First of all, do not trust Trustwallet. Ironically, since it is closed-source, it is not a wallet you can trust. Furthermore, it is a wallet which is owned by an exchange; Binance.

Do not keep your coins in a third party wallet which can take them away from you at any time for any reason. This goes for all centralized exchanges. Kucoin and Binance included.

Mycelium and Electrum are both good wallets but I myself prefer Electrum. And I think most Bitcoiners on this forum would probably say the same thing. Although if you really value your security you should invest in a good hardware wallet, instead. That is the safest and best option currently on the market.


1277  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Questions of the day for gamblers on: May 09, 2023, 01:12:30 PM
If a online casino claims to be a decentralized platform does this mean that their games are fully decentralized too?

Decentralization does not exist for online casinos just yet. There is always a centralized component which centralizes the whole casino, effectively. Any casino claiming to be decentralized is just using that word for marketing purposes. In a decentralized casino, you would have control over your money at all time and no centralized entity could interfere with your winnings/funds. Casinos are too regulated and too complex for them to be run by smart contract protocols. There must always be a middleman who is in control.

The same goes for the games of the casino.

In the end, its all just false advertising.
1278  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 08, 2023, 06:35:57 PM
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Thanks for an in-depth analysis of my post Cheesy
I see your point and completely agree, especially that I have no real data to back my claims. It's just a feeling that I have and I hope it's a good one, cause I'm out of cash to buy another dip.

You know you made it when current Bitcoin fees do not bother you because you are hodling. But it is hurts to see the ordinal scammers smearing Bitcoin's name with their Bullshit-Rort-Con 20 tokens.

Well, at least the miners are making decent profits off the idiots who actually fall for the BRC20 scam. Enjoy it while it lasts (Protip: it wont).

It will last long enough to bring BTC price to ?

I say they are looking to get BTC to drop to 25K or 24k

I don't think they ( meaning the scammers) are looking for a certain price of bitcoin.
They're focused on their scam pepes and other shitcoins and bitcoin is just a means to an end to them. It's a road they're traveling on to bring fake money from home to a lambo dealership.

You could be right and if you are it will be over very soon.
Probably. But, fine by me. Today's cheap Bitcoin is a nice birthday present from the NFT/money-laundering crowd.
1279  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The severity of the Ordinals Attack is increasing on: May 08, 2023, 01:49:03 PM
Bitcoin is clearly a peer-to-peer system of digital cash as perceived by its creator;

No, it's not. It was conceived this way by its creator, but the number of people buying Bitcoin in centralized exchanges, even leaving them there, and the number of people using custodial wallets is far from the initial idea. I don't think Satoshi had in his mind people paying massive capital gains tax on their Bitcoin sales either, since you don't pay taxes for using cash.


I think its part of his vision. Give the people the freedom to do as they like. If they want to do something stupid like leaving their Bitcoin in someone else's hands, thats fine. They have the freedom to do so and once they lose their money, they will serve as an example to future Bitcoiners not to do the same.

The whole Ordinals "attack"? A lucrative reward for the miners.

It will not last because it is not only a nuisance to Bitcoiners, but simply unsustainable and pseudo-decentralised. It is still on a secondary market because Bitcoin has no DeFi protocols. So obviously the launderers will soon hit a wall of regulations and government barriers. There are only so many idiots who are willing to throw their money away for Bitcoin NFTs / Memecoins. Its just a fad and it will disappear. Like ICOs.

And all the poor saps who bought the memecoin scams will be left stuck, sitting on them.

1280  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 08, 2023, 01:29:32 PM
You know you made it when current Bitcoin fees do not bother you because you are hodling. But it is hurts to see the ordinal scammers smearing Bitcoin's name with their Bullshit-Rort-Con 20 tokens.

Well, at least the miners are making decent profits off the idiots who actually fall for the BRC20 scam. Enjoy it while it lasts (Protip: it wont).
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