I've spent much of the afternoon disagreeing with you in various threads, but I certainly agree with this. Whilst living healthily doesn't make you invincible, neither does vaccination. Regardless of whether or not you've had the vaccine, you improve your chances, and indeed your quality of life in general, if you eat healthily, exercise regularly, don't drink/smoke etc.

If you are morbidly obese and have taken the vaccine, you are indisputably at higher risk than if you have taken the vaccine and are not morbidly obese.

I'd contend that the problems that you list are primarily a legacy of colonialism. If you want a root cause, you need to cast your eyes towards Europe. 'Post-colonial' is not the same as 'never happened'. Look at Rwanda. Look at Zimbabwe. Look anywhere on the continent.




It's not a bug, it's a feature. If religion is doing these things, then it's working as intended. But that's not the cause of the issues listed by the OP.

This is not true. Remarks such as this are misleading and dangerous. Your statement is unfounded conjecture that flies in the face of overwhelming evidence.



Okay, let's look at the data from Israel:



https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/unvaxxed-10-of-israelis-are-73-of-serious-cases-65-of-deaths-1.10251639



Having a healthy lifestyle confers benefits, of course, but it's not a superpower. It doesn't make you invincible and immortal. And it does not prevent you from taking the vaccine. Why not live healthily and take the vaccine? This is not an either/or situation.
Keeping your eyes open whilst driving is safer. Wearing a seatbelt whilst driving is safer. But having your eyes open doesn't mean you need to unfasten your seatbelt.

That was a surprise for me. Of course Ruud has been great this year, but still, I expected it would be a bit closer than this, even if Ruud was likely to be the winner. I don't think fatigue will play a part as men are used to playing best of 5 set matches in slams, so 3 setters should be no problem.

In my experience, the only way to get into power in a western democracy is to be pro-Israel which, because of the International Definition of Anti-Semitism, also means being pro-Zionist, and pro-killing-of-Palestinians.
The left in my country were eviscerated because they attempted to stand up for an oppressed people.

Really, if you have to include the below as part of your definition of anti-semitism, it is quite revealing. It's more revealing by itself than anyone having to mention that the lesson learned from WW2 appears to have been 'these camps would be great if we were on the other side of the fence'.

If this is a genuine attempt at setting up a survey, then it is best to use unbiased language. The use of the word 'plandemic' in the thread title indicates quite clearly that you have an ulterior motive, and are not interested primarily in gathering data to reach a conclusion. Rather, you have already reached a conclusion, and are looking for any available evidence that might support it.



Yes, I had the vaccine.
Yes, it was completely free of charge. 94 million doses have been given in my country. No-one has been charged anything for any of them.

BTW... Vaccination is not a freedom issue. You are not free to stand in a public place with a gun and shoot down random passersby. Similarly, you should not be free to stand in a public place and cough potentially lethal virus onto people.

Emphasis on the 'ish' ?



I understand the tendency to look for a religious solution — it's the last refuge for those who can't find any facts to support their argument — but frankly I can't see what the Catholic Bishops' Conference of Korea has to do with this at all. And I understand that the new New Auxiliary Bishop of Busan may be a controversial figure, but the asterisk is overkill.

Yeah, well, you say that, but the one I found (the image in my post above) is available for $450. You might be onto something though, because it says 'Shipping Weight 0.00 lb (0kg)'... which sounds like some kind of fraud. Or is this just because it's immersed in water, so it's effectively weightless?




Thanks! How about: 'Something fictitious rises !!!' ?

Ah, in that case, my apologies. I thought you were taking this Kraken thing seriously. If you concede that it is all a joke, then yes, I'm perfectly happy.

Breaking news! Election results are voided because Biden is an Illuminati 5G Lizard! The supreme court probably said so!

There's a pattern in that some of the people (okay, mainly one person) who post unsubstantiated anti-vax stuff aren't interested in a discussion, they just want to create a noise. This is why there are so many threads started with ridiculous sensationalist headlines, and yet when you try to engage them in reasoned debate, or raise the question of evidence or even rationality, they just ignore it and move on, just starting a new thread with some new craziness (which often contradicts their previous nonsense - e.g., Covid doesn't exist, but is simultaneously a huge government eugenics programme). I'm not sure how much is trolling and how much is genuine belief, but the fact that they won't even attempt to engage in debate is telling. Their stock response is often some vague insult. A while ago, one of them decided to mock my ability to use the English language, and did so in a stream-of-consciousness, punctuation-free rant, with a lot of poor spelling and some very 'creative' syntax. This is all they've got.

This pretty much sums up the entire thread. Why not just admit this at the start? We're nearly at 200 posts now. This would have saved everyone a lot of time. And I wouldn't have had to keep posting images of this guy.

I've had plenty of constructive discussions here with people with whom I disagree. It's just difficult to find an opening when someone continually posts things that are so outlandish and farcical that they bear no relation to reality.

This forum definitely exposes me to the sorts of people that I would never encounter in everyday life, which I think is a good thing.
We speak the same language, I have replied to many of your posts, and yet I don't think you've ever written a single thing that I either agree with or even find comprehensible. I've never written the words 'unsubstantiated' and 'nonsense' this much before. But it would be boring if everyone agreed with one another.

I think you have it the wrong way around.
The people who make decisions based on hard facts and an analysis of the data tend to be pro-vaccine.
The anti-vaxxers are the ones who ignore evidence and have a faith-based approach.

Just look at all the threads on this board. Who is posting links to data sources? Who is posting links to people ranting on YouTube, and citing the bible?

Religion is simply an outdated mechanism of social control. Science is what matters. Data. Evidence. Facts.

I think Chelsea and Man City are the best two teams in the league, with Liverpool in a clear third place. Chelsea should have enough to beat Southampton, it's just bad timing that they had to face City and Juventus back-to-back. Man United are overrated and Ronaldo doesn't resolve their issues - I think they will be fighting for fourth place this season.

A 1-0 win for United, with Ronaldo scoring the winner in the 97th minute... you heard it here first  

Seriously though, I'm not hugely impressed by United and the purchase of Ronaldo doesn't address their flaws, it just masks them. He's a great player and gives them an added dimension, just not in the way they need.
I don't see them as title contenders this season, but I'd say they're still (a bit) better than Everton.

They can't afford to sack him though. I think I mentioned the terms of his contract a couple of weeks ago in another post. There is the 6 million pay-off they have to give him to let him go, and I can't see that they can pay it even if they wanted him out. But equally Koeman is stuck, because he needs money to rebuild the team... and there isn't any.

Barca are in a bit of a mess at the moment, and they can't buy their way out of it. I can't see what they can do other than promote their own youth players.

That was their aim, yes. Perhaps certain people will now start to realise that migrants to the UK, far from being freeloaders bleeding the country dry, were actually overwhelmingly of working age, working long hours in low paying jobs, and providing vital support. But of course, they won't realise that, they'll find someone else to blame it on... and for all the talk of emergency temporary visas etc., I couldn't see many Polish or Romanian drivers wanting to come back to a country where they were routinely demonised before being kicked out.

One plus side is that the dearth of available workers is forcing companies to push up wages for what are low-paying jobs with often brutal conditions.

Yes. 48.1% of voters foresaw it on 23 June 2016. Unfortunately, we lost the vote to the people who had "other" concerns.


Yes, but not in the way that you mean.

It is getting a bit absurd. Some behaviour is certainly dangerous.


Media sensationalism can always be relied upon to exacerbate a problem. And I know that there are staffing problems endemic to the industry across Europe, but the UK has been hit much harder than anyone else. Don't you think that Brexit has contributed? I know you voted to leave, but the UK's reliance on migrant labour in key industries was one of the reasons I voted to remain.