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Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Motosport General discussion tread --- Formula1, MotoGP, WTCC, ETCC, DTM.....
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on: July 18, 2021, 03:39:51 PM
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Verstappen did the turn like Lewis wasn't there.
Yeah. That's his driving style. There have been a number of times this season, Lewis is obviously more experienced and is generally more restrained. Max has a tendency to just try to plough his way straight through, thinking everyone will just get out of his way. But Lewis can't afford to give ground in the title battle any more. If you have two drivers at the front, for different teams, and neither is willing to give an inch, then a collision is inevitable. BTW - Lap 37, I think Hamilton is likely to win this now, 3s behind Bottas, 12s behind Leclerc. |
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Other / Politics & Society / Re: racial justice is a mad and marxist concept. it will make the world mad
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on: July 18, 2021, 11:14:59 AM
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the democratic party is under full controll of marxism with all its negative side effects.
This is yet another instance of the absurd scare-tactic whereby the right label anything that is even marginally to the left of their preferred position "marxist" or "communist". There's a thread about it here. Give it a rest. Please. Use constructive criticism rather than ridiculous labels that are patently untrue and serve only to undermine your own credibility. Do you genuinely believe that the US Democratic party are closet Soviets? they promote something called "racial justice" but true justice can only be achieved if people are being judged and rewarded by their individual character, not by their skincolor.
If people are being discriminated against or treated as second class citizens because of their skin colour — which they are — then this needs to be addressed. Simply ignoring it and pretending it's not an issue is not a solution. if there is a fixed number of races defined. like for example 30
then there is an incentive to create more and new races, people will define themselves as new races so they can become nr. 31 and as nr. 31 they have right to same racial equity than the other 30.
This is silly. If you are being discriminated against because of your skin colour or your ethnic origin, there is no need to prove yourself by slotting into a specifically defined sub-category. And there's no "incentive" to become a racial minority, as if it's a choice. to stupid
too stupid. |
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Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling on friendly matches
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on: July 18, 2021, 07:04:03 AM
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Personally, I don't like betting on friendly matches, I find them too unpredictable. There are also often a lot of player changes, so one thing to avoid is probably betting on a certain player to score - chances are they will play less of the match than would normally be the case. But you're right that teams are generally less cautious in friendlies, which we might expect would lead to more goals in total.
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Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Motosport General discussion tread --- Formula1, MotoGP, WTCC, ETCC, DTM.....
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on: July 18, 2021, 05:54:25 AM
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Uhm, I've read only negative posts on F1 social media about Sprint Race but honestly, I loved it but they should make it 10 laps and I it should be enough.
Tomorrow race will be enjoyable to watch as we saw Mercedes has the necessary pace to overtake RedBull ,but on the long run we saw that RedBull is getting in comfortable zone and from there is very hard to catch them and also make the overtake.
The format is nice but the "problem" is always the same. When you have 2 cars overperforming the pack whatever they do it will be boring. Yes, exactly. By two cars I assume you mean the two Red Bull cars?  Mercedes are fairly close, and there were some encouraging signs here... but it's getting a bit monotonous now, Red Bull are winning every single race, just like Mercedes used to. I suppose it's inevitable, if you have drivers as good as Hamilton and Verstappen, very consistent and able to get the best out of their machines... it will always come down to fine margins, and whoever has the best car will win. The only solution really is to have everyone drive the same make of car... which is impossible given how F1 is structured. |
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Other / Politics & Society / Re: Allow Jeff Bezos to go back to Earth
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on: July 17, 2021, 04:26:35 PM
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 sourceThe phallic imagery of the Blue Origin space dildo rocket really is quite overt. Perhaps at least a degree of subtlety might have been nice instead of the juvenile machismo and bluster. Bezos is of course rich enough to do whatever he likes... it's just that the thought of him returning in that thing to impregnate the Earth does raise a shudder. |
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Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions
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on: July 16, 2021, 09:08:13 AM
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Juventus star Cristiano Ronaldo still maintain contacts with PSG and according to some sources, a move could still possible. CR7 want to stay at Juventus or make a move to France for a new challenge! A champions league not a new challenge for him. I'll support whatever decision he take.
Yes, there are very few teams that could afford him, so he doesn't have a huge number of options. He's certainly done well at Juve, but they're not the best team in Italy. PSG are the best team in France, but the league is maybe not so competitive. Difficult call. He's coming towards the end of his career, so this is probably his final decision... but wages maybe aren't that much of an issue as he certainly doesn't need the money. |
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Other / Politics & Society / Re: The KRAKEN Rises !!!
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on: July 15, 2021, 12:57:01 PM
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You say that, but... still no kraken. But wait - what's that? Oh, sorry - I thought it was something, but it turns out it was just the shadow of a tree on the shoreline. Really there was nothing there. Perhaps it's just that I wanted it to be there so much, I was willing to accept anything, even when there was no actual evidence.  |
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Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Olympics 2020/2021 : Discussion & Predictions
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on: July 15, 2021, 12:42:47 PM
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... but this is harsh. Her mother died suddenly and unexpectedly, and she was informed of this whilst at the trials. She says she took marijuana as a coping mechanism, which is fair enough. It's a reason for her taking it, and is likely the reason why the ban is so short. And certainly the ban must stand, but this doesn't mean we shouldn't have sympathy.
People give all sort of excuses to avoid a ban. If she was so sad about the death of the family member, then she should have pulled out of the Olympics. American athletes in particular has been given all sort of exemptions for the Olympics. Athletes from other countries are banned for the silliest of the reasons, while American athletes such as Simone Biles were given exemptions for the same drug (in Simone's case, the excuse was that she need the drug for attention deficit hyperactivity disorder (ADHD)). Yes, people do give excuses. I'm not saying she should get an exemption at all. I think she deserves the ban because she broke the rules. All I'm saying is that at the same time we can have some sympathy for her, and some understanding of her situation. It's not like it's a performance enhancing drug, and this was a difficult time. But yes, obviously the ban must remain, and she shouldn't be allowed to compete. |
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Other / Politics & Society / Re: Doctor says mRNA vaccines “will kill most people” through heart failure
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on: July 15, 2021, 10:55:32 AM
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when they don't kill most people, are you going to come here and admit that you and the doctor were wrong?
You don't need to respond. We already know you won't.
Yep. And when nothing comes of the 5G and nanobots scare stories, it will be 6G and picobots. It seems almost as if the nonsense threads arise so quickly that the previous nonsense is buried before we have a chance to look back at how ridiculous it is. This reminds me of someone else..."he often lets his personal/religious views affect his medical judgment."
Appreciate it's just an individual quote, but this is scary. Religion and science do not sit well together. |
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Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Olympics 2020/2021 : Discussion & Predictions
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on: July 15, 2021, 10:42:12 AM
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she was already aware that weed was banned and still consumed it. Who should be blamed here? It is not possible to provide exemptions on an individual basis. If weed is permitted today, then tomorrow some people may ask for glass and crack.
Well, no-one should be blamed. Why is there a need to apportion blame? The ban is legitimate, and must stand. Yes, there should not be any exemptions. She should not be able to compete. This is clear... No sympathy for Sha'Carri.
... but this is harsh. Her mother died suddenly and unexpectedly, and she was informed of this whilst at the trials. She says she took marijuana as a coping mechanism, which is fair enough. It's a reason for her taking it, and is likely the reason why the ban is so short. And certainly the ban must stand, but this doesn't mean we shouldn't have sympathy. |
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Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions
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on: July 15, 2021, 10:17:10 AM
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5 more years with Messi, Barca secured the future. I told you Messi won't leave.  Yes, it was expected. I made decent money betting he would stay at Barcelona He's been there since he was 13, he is loved by the fans and settled in the area. The issues that caused him to want to leave have largely been remedied. He has no need of a more lucrative contract, and there is no need for the world's best player to prove himself in another country. He will likely stay at Barca for the remainder of his career... although there is still the possibility of a 40yo Messi going somewhere like the US afterwards. |
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Other / Politics & Society / Re: Thousands of protesters take to the streets in Cuba 🇨🇺
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on: July 15, 2021, 10:03:05 AM
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If US is not intervening in Cuba they could have progressed massively, why do they still have the Blockage even when there is no threat from Cuba, they are no hostile, there is no weapon they hide.
You do have a valid point that the current woes suffered by the Cuban population are due in part to the 60 year US embargo - which for the first 40 years even prohibited humanitarian relief. The UN criticises the US for this very frequently, but as usual with the UN, to zero effect. We are a long way from the missile crisis, a long way from the mighty Soviet regime representing an existential threat to US freedom... Obama did take steps to ease relations, but for every step forward he took, Trump then took a step back. It remains to be seen what Biden will do, although he's said he will "reverse the failed Trump policies". But regardless of the embargo, the Cuban government also has to take some of the blame for the misery of the population, and any government that suppresses freedom of expression is not a legitimate representative of its people. |
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Other / Politics & Society / Re: Thousands of protesters take to the streets in Cuba 🇨🇺
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on: July 14, 2021, 02:56:56 PM
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between fascism and communism there is only a thin line.
For once we are in agreement. History has shown us again and again that communism in theory leads to authoritarianism in practice. The worst system of government is one that silences opposition and refuses to be challenged. Democracy may be flawed and imperfect, but it is our best weapon as ordinary people for holding governments to account. A government that does not allow protest has no legitimacy. Reporters sans Frontières has listed Diaz-Canel in its 2021 list of the worst heads of state for preventing press freedom. Details of his approach and activities can be found here. Cuba currently ranks a lowly 171 out of 180 nations for press freedom. Perhaps that will fall still further. |
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Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Olympics 2020/2021 : Discussion & Predictions
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on: July 14, 2021, 08:35:44 AM
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I'm just curious how you guys feel about Sha'Carri Richardson being banned or suspended from the Olympics and then ultimately being left off the 4 x 100 sprinter relay team?
It's unfortunate timing. She got a tiny ban, due to the fact that whilst marijuana doesn't enhance performance, it's still illegal. It just so happens that the tiny ban covers the period of the olympics 100m. The rules are the rules, and there isn't really any room to manoeuvre, there has to be a ban of some sort. As for her not being in the relay team which comes a bit later and after the end of the ban... I think again they have little choice. They have to be seen as being consistent. It would be difficult to justify including a runner in one event who is banned from the individual version. It's not a great situation, and it feels harsh on her, but the rules can't be bent... that would set a terrible precedent. |
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Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Olympics 2020/2021 : Discussion & Predictions
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on: July 13, 2021, 02:07:10 PM
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Usually every time there is an Olympic tournament, countries will nominate their best athletes to qualify for the tournament.
For example:
Swimming: in your country there are 20-30 swimming athletes, they all have to pass the selection to qualify for the Olympics, each country must have their 2 best athletes to qualify for the Olympics, this also applies to other sports such as: archer, weightlifting etc.
I know that for Athletics events, each event has a qualifying standard. Each country is able to enter up to 3 athletes for each event, provided that they have met the qualifying criterion - for the men's 100m as an example, this is 10.05 seconds. If your country has 10 runners who have met the standard, you can enter your choice of 3 of them. If no-one from your country meets the standard, you are still permitted to enter one participant. I assume other event categories use a similar process. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Athletics_at_the_2020_Summer_Olympics_%E2%80%93_QualificationQuick question, how does a country qualify to play the Olympics?
If we are talking about countries rather than individual athletes, then your country can enter provided its National Olympic Committee is recognised by the IOC. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Olympic_Committee#List_of_NOCs_by_recognition_date |
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Other / Politics & Society / Re: Government document instructs vaccine “strike force” teams how to...
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on: July 13, 2021, 01:39:18 PM
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The 'in other words' clause shows that I was explaining more clearly a prediction of mine.
Well, I prefer debating intention and inference to debating the absolute nonsense that started this thread, so I suppose we've achieved something. I don't know if English is a second language for you or what
Hey, I'm not the one whose posts are filled with amateurish spelling and punctuation blunders. Some of you Christians
Where did you get the idea that I'm a Christian? That's hilarious!  God is a fiction and an anachronism, a mechanism of social control and for building tribal cohesion, an invisible policeman to ensure good behaviour. |
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Other / Politics & Society / Re: American Marxism
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on: July 13, 2021, 12:03:52 PM
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This is a fallacy. Apply it now:
a) “Central planning” is central planning; “class struggle” is class struggle; “Collective ownership of means of production” is Collective ownership of means of production or
b) “Central planning” is Marxism!!!; “class struggle”” is Marxism!!!; “Collective ownership of means of production” is Marxism!!!.
All this you say without having read more than an excerpt of what he says, because the book is published today, and may be more developed arguments in it.
Okay, come back once the US has switched to collective ownership of the means of production, and I'll start taking this seriously. |
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Other / Politics & Society / Re: Hundreds Injured by COVID Vaccines Turn to GoFundMe for Help With Expenses
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on: July 13, 2021, 11:57:18 AM
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I'm going to remind you of something you already know even when you say that: it's not free. If you live in the UK, they will be deducting a percentage of your salary to pay for health care, as it is done in all countries.
Calling it free healthcare is misleading. Another thing is that I agree more with a system like the UK NHS than with the US system.
I take your point. It's free at the point of service... but yes, agreed, everything has to be paid for through some form of taxation... roads, police, fire services... and medical services. But even if you have no employment or income, you still get healthcare provision. It's a right rather than a privilege. Something caused a huge death spike during the Covid pandemic, and the death spike has gone with the vaccine rollout. What might be the explanation?
We discussed this at one time, and it is not very explainable that there was a huge spike for a disease with such a low mortality. Before vaccines started to be given, it already dropped, in summer 2020. Here I think other factors came into play. Mortality as a percentage of cases is low, yes... but when number of cases is so huge, the number of deaths inevitably becomes large - and exacerbated by health services being overrun. It dropped in summer, yes. Here in the UK the lockdown was lifted when case numbers became very low, at the beginning of summer... so that is I think the primary reason. Also it's not like cases dropped in summer 2020 and then have remained low ever since. Here we had a huge second spike starting in late 2020. There is certainly a seasonal element to it, as there is with other coronaviruses, but the link between case numbers and lockdowns is overwhelmingly strong. |
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Other / Politics & Society / Re: Hundreds Injured by COVID Vaccines Turn to GoFundMe for Help With Expenses
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on: July 13, 2021, 11:04:21 AM
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The excess death count from the vaccine is far greater than the excess death count from Covid
No. Disregard reason (I don't mean in your usual way, I mean reason for death). Look at excess deaths in total, i.e. how many more deaths there were than usual. For the time since the start of the pandemic, look at the excess deaths both before and after widespread vaccination. Compare and contrast. Don't start saying 'it says they died of x but really they died of y'. Don't bring reason for death into it. Something caused a huge death spike during the Covid pandemic, and the death spike has gone with the vaccine rollout. What might be the explanation? |
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Other / Politics & Society / Re: Government document instructs vaccine “strike force” teams how to...
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on: July 13, 2021, 10:51:01 AM
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everyone who's got foriegn genes designed in pharma labs WILL be ruled as at least partially the property of the patent holders.
I can see what you're aiming for, but this is quite a leap of logic, and doesn't merit the absolute certainty of an all-caps 'WILL'. And, given the impossibility of an mRNA vaccine altering someone's genes, it has no bearing on the CV19 vaccine discussion. Up to your old tricks again; snipping out context to make it appear that someone said something that they did not. Namely me. It's simply more efficient and more readable to take the relevant part of the post rather than quote the whole thing every time. There's no intention here to divest your statement of context... but it stands by itself, surely? I don't see the problem here. The operative context which you edited out was " I doubt that...". This is very far from 'an absolute certainty'. I only bother to mention it here for the benefit of others who might not have notice that you are very nearly a one-trick-pony, and editing other peoples words in order to take things out of context is your one main trick. Various related and equally deceitful tricks compose most of the rest. Science, inference, logic, etc are notably AWOL. But, 'when all you have is a hammer...' I'm surprised you're wanting to argue this, given that your full post is available above, for everyone to read. Nevertheless, here's your full post, again (my bold): The genetic modifications are making the participants 'Round-Up Ready' one might say (or argue in court...closed court for national security reasons.)
Someone is welcome to show where the courts reversed the interpretation that engineer genes are NOT patent-able in the case of GMO technology inserted into human beings. I doubt that they can. Beyond that, when it is adjudicated I doubt that the courts will reverse the previous rulings. In other words, everyone who's got foriegn genes designed in pharma labs WILL be ruled as at least partially the property of the patent holders. If one has been turned into a GMO against their will it becomes more complicated. Monsanto (now Bayer...formerly IG Farben of nazi fame) dropped the suite claiming ownership of a crop that had been genetically contaminated against the farmer's will/wishes because they didn't want to lose and have it become case law. That was a while ago, however, and you can take it to the bank that the lobbyists who write U.S. law have inserted a ton of Easter-eggs since that time.
To which 'I doubt that' are you referring? The first instance, where you doubt that anyone can show where the courts reversed their decision? Or the second instance, where you doubt that, when it is adjudicated, courts will reverse the previous rulings? You are of course perfectly entitled to backtrack and to change your opinion, and to say that you didn't mean what you said... but please don't try to dress it up as someone willfully misinterpreting you. |
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