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Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Crypto Kingdom - 1991 Retro Virtual World(Town)
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on: October 10, 2014, 09:18:52 PM
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This sounded interesting until "I, as the king"..
By putting yourself in this position I think that you hurt Monero more than you help.
I believe many people don't want to touch Monero because of your vocal involvement, and this will only aggravate the problem.
LOL, everyone knows the lower classes have all the fun and freedom.  The King has to stay pompous and above it all, while the peasants get to boogie out. It isn't like they actually have to work or anything. Because... Its a game, its only a game, don't make it seem like it is something serious enough to get upset about. Save the emotions for real things. |
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Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Early access soon over!
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on: October 09, 2014, 09:10:41 PM
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In order to encourage joining, MEW had decided to dispense early members of any handling fees and to accept subscriptions starting from 10 XMR. The early access period will stop in exactly 1 week, on the 16th of October at 23h59 UTC. Starting from the 17th, the minimum number of votes will be 50 XMR and the one-time handling fees will be 10 XMR, all paid at the same address MEW initial decisionsHandling fees - Processing a new member request
- Buying more votes for an existing member
- Change in identity information
- Change in how a member's votepower is proxied
- Casting a vote
- Refunding of votes to a member in downgrade or resignation
- Time-based charge for fulfilling special requests (applies to non-members as well)
- The fees are donations paid directly to the administrative clerk (ME or his deputy) and do not go to the GF.
For easier handling, the fees are paid at the same address as the registration - the administrative clerk will then proceed with separation of funds. Did I understand that correctly -- 10 XMR fee to cast a vote?That is really excessive especially for smaller members. If so please refund my membership. Do you really want to discourage voting and participation? How are you going to get a community consensus without the community? To clarify a bit on fees, this is my understanding from reading this: - The 10XMR is a one time fee for signing up. It is being waived for the first week.
- There is no fee for casting votes.
- You get as many votes as you buy, this is called your votepower, you get to use those votes in every ballot, they are not lost or used up. You will see how this is done in the current discussion about an item brought for pre-vote discussion.
There is also a yearly renewal fee (not mentioned in the text but as I recall it is in the reference document). |
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Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [ANN][MEW]Discussion&Vote #1 - Communication Strategy - Members only
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on: October 09, 2014, 08:29:12 PM
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1000 Votes.
Support for proposal #2
The crucial point to understand here is that while proposal #1 is a valid option in the short term it must be seen as an interim solution, with proposal #2 as the valid long term option. Proposal #2 calls for the MEW to move to dedicated forums when practical. "When practical" will be determined among other things by the creation a successful XMR forum. Given the choice between voting for the best short term option or the best long term solution I will always choose the best long term option. This follows the principle that when one takes care of the long term the short term will take care of itself, while the reverse is not the case.
The proposal I feel will have the best chance of consensus is to treat proposal #1 as an interim choice until it is practical to implement proposal #2 as the valid long term option.
QFT 110 Votes Discussion and Support for proposal #1 with suggestions to make #2 acceptable. ArticMine's position on this and mine are almost identical. The interesting difference being that we are supporting different proposals. I would be likely to shift to proposal #2 if a particular forum were designated, as well as a time period for matriculation of MEW business to the new forum. forum.monero.cc would be an obvious choice. Though it puts some burdens on the dev team who manage the site, maybe they can carve our a section for us? Those are the sort of things I'd want to see determined ahead of voting to change. #2 would also be supportable the vote is for a non-binding "statement of intent to change forums" or similar. Monero, and it's community are developing rapidly. There will likely always be threads here, so long as there is a here, but having a place of our own would be a very good thing. |
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Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: satoshin@gmx.com is compromised
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on: October 09, 2014, 07:57:55 PM
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Reading through all the proof. I want to believe that SN = NS = JN. But john Nash is too old to alone create bitcoin. I believe there are more people involved if Nash is Satoshi.
Nash isn't Satoshi. His work was helpful, but this isn't his project. |
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Economy / Speculation / Re: Gold collapsing. Bitcoin UP.
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on: October 09, 2014, 05:56:01 PM
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also in regards to the OTC buy theory. that theory requires a doubling of a manipulator's risk. they have to not only hope to find a large OTC seller in the middle of the night on a Sunday when no one's working PLUS set up the 30K wall which puts them at risk for losing all of those 30K coins at an artificially low price thus destroying that strategy.
The theory is that the OTC deal was agreed for the price, at that time, (ahead of the bearwahl's appearance), then the price manipulated to make the OCT deal profitable for the OTC byuer. Perhaps the wall was moved so that it would survive until the appointed time? If I were buying 50K+ coins OTC, burning 30K to get an artificially low price on the 50K would just make it all the more profitable. I'm not a conspiracy buff, so it could easily be otherwise. Just looking at the possibly economic reasons, such as an arbitraging trade with an OTC deal. |
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Economy / Speculation / Re: Gold collapsing. Bitcoin UP.
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on: October 09, 2014, 05:46:23 PM
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Wow, just some incredible posts the last few pages; I'm seriously wondering if I've taken a wrong turn with crypto. Some of this conspiracy stuff about "the manipulator" is just plain ludicrous, I'm going to stop myself because I don't won't get into either a discussion/argument nor offend anyone.
I seriously believe a lot of you need to take a break from monitors and charts and analysis; take a walk in the woods, dance, talk to people face to face, visit another country. Find some balance.
I like how much work these guys do for me. Don't discourage them! But for myself, I do spend some time at the farm every day, feeding the alpaca, and mending fences. It beats working out in a gym.  |
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Other / Politics & Society / Re: Anyone following the ebola outbreak?
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on: October 09, 2014, 12:14:06 PM
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This could wipe out a lot of earths population if it isn't contained. WHO has said we have about a month or its game over.
Nope. The mortality rate from Ebola is around 70%. Those who survive the disease, gains immunity from it for more than 10 years (by which time the virus mutates). So it is not going to wipe out humanity. 70% mortality rate would have huge negative impacts on the world. If that much of the world population were to die then we would likely experience skills and production mismatch which could potentially lead to the inability to produce enough food and other necessities The phone polishers that can learn to harvest get to survive. The main skill shortage will be medical. Medical service people have a 10x mortality risk in this so far. Some others just walk out. |
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Other / Archival / Re: delete
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on: October 09, 2014, 12:03:23 PM
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Because of Bluemeanie1's (Moneroman88) involvement in Monero, I am pulling out. I thought the Monero community had higher standards than to associate with thieves.
Thieves like to associate with Monero community, not the other way round. I thought that Moneroman88 hated Monero? Every single thing he writes seems crafted explicitly for the purpose of creating hate for Monero. I also think TaunSew is just trolling here. Few are gullible enough to take Moneroman88 seriously at all, much less take any action based on anything Moneroman88 writes. |
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Other / Politics & Society / Re: Anyone following the ebola outbreak?
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on: October 09, 2014, 05:25:05 AM
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Top 20 cities by population:
1. Tokyo, Japan (37,126,000)
2. Jakarta, Indonesia (26,063,000)
3. Seoul, South Korea (22,547,000)
4. Delhi, India (22,242,000)
5. Shanghai, China (20,860,000)
6. Manila, Philippines (20,767,000)
7. Karachi, Pakistan (20,711,000)
8. New York, USA (20,464,000)
9. Sao Paulo, Brazil (20,186,000)
10. Mexico City, Mexico (19,463,000)
11. Cairo, Egypt (17,816,000)
12. Beijing, China (17,311,000)
13. Osaka, Japan (17,011,000)
14. Mumbai (Bombay), India (16,910,000)
15. Guangzhou, China (16,827,000)
16. Moscow, Russia (15,512,000)
17. Los Angeles, USA (14,900,000)
18. Calcutta, India (14,374,000)
19. Dhaka, Bangladesh (14,000,000)
20. Buenos Aires, Argentina (13,639,000)
Nothing detected from 7 suspected in Los Angeles. http://www.dailynews.com/health/20141008/lax-passenger-suspected-of-having-ebola-is-cleared |
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Other / Archival / Re: delete
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on: October 09, 2014, 04:57:22 AM
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In reply to a concerned citizen gentleman,
UBERcoin ANNouncement
Launching the latest and last cryptomoney
Total emission: 1337 coins.
I have forked UBERcoin to fix your category errors and take into account the 666/Pi^100 Great Collapsing Hrung problem as predicted by Martin Armstrong. UBERcoin's Hrung will inevitably collapse due to reasons that I cannot explain but you must believe because I am the authority because I once made a popular web page before the web was popular. VaporCoin introduces the revolutionary and derivative concept of RingShuffle. RingShuffle uses three blockchains. The outer application layer is the same as any CN coin. The two-ply inner transportation system is used by nodes to accomplish both on and off chain mixing. The middle layer is a mini-blockchain account tree that tracks the balance of mixing daemons. Mixing daemons are ephemeral and each Vapor node spawns random number of them with random lifespans. Mixing daemons use the inner layer's blockchain to shuffle coins using one-time-ring-signatures. This arrangement keeps bloat off off the permanent user-facing blockchain and restricts transaction noise (AKA helpful entropy) to temporary prunable ring sigs, while the minichain-based global account tree keeps transport daemons synchronized and mitigates the threat of hostile/dishonest Sybil nodes. RingShuffle = (CN blockchain ((Miniblockchain(prunable CN blockchain))) We are already in discussion with SuperNet, and are now taking pre-orders for our Stargoat+ FPGASIC, which is the only hardware capable of mining VaporCoins . do you own the annoymint account  I submit a pull request and submit the SIGNET-RINGSHUFFLE feature, which notifies whenever an attempt to de-anonymise is made using a colored coin shaped waxy substance applied by stamping the RINGSHUFFLE into the enveloping cryptography whilst it is heatsinking the FPGASIC, simultaneously cooling the rig. |
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Economy / Speculation / Re: Gold collapsing. Bitcoin UP.
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on: October 08, 2014, 09:44:08 PM
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This is the most plausible theory I've heard to date, Cypher. But let me get this straight: you're suggesting that the 30k wall belonged to a panicking early adopter and was in fact the "desert" that Pantera was after the entire time. Correct? So, basically, they got as much cheap coins as they could hope for, fired the trolls, and are now talking the price back up (hah maybe now that you posted this they'll do the opposite and take us down one more time. Perhaps they'll scare some coins out of you next time  ) correct. given that you believe there has been a manipulator taking down prices since June. Blitz, you know me better than that. back in 2011, i was the one arguing against any manipulation back then and ever since. this is the only event in which i've invoked a manipulator mechanism. and if there has been a manipulator, Pantera is the logical entity with the strategic positioning in place to pull it off. leave tons of BTC and fiat on the exchange in preparation and simply sell down the market until the market capitulates, then buy back. rather simple, really, which is also why i like it. It could be even simpler, for example if an even larger OTC deal were being made, and that was based on the exchange price. |
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Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [BBR] Boolberry: Privacy and Security - Guaranteed[Bittrex/Poloniex]GPU Released
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on: October 08, 2014, 09:38:59 PM
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he never said anything was shady about it. you admit you are reading between the lines. most likely the issue was they wanted cz to minimize bbr within the scope of the larger project and/or take too many liberties with cz's hard work. that is my "reading between the lines". i dont know much of windj but from what ive seen he is quite professional.
There may be purely technical reasons to not implement, or simply just to not implement it in SuperNet, yet. One that would cause me to pause is that if SuperNet allows all the features of one coin to be used by another, does it also allow all the bugs to be exploited? What is the mechanism that prevents the weakest link from breaking the chain (or mobile phone network or whichever analogy works for you)? CZ may simply believe that BBR is more secure than at least one other in the SuperNet and wants to wait until it is more mature/secure. It need not be rushed. I respect CZ for keeping the reasons private in this matter. The fundraiser had nothing to do with BBR intergration with Supernet. BBR and Supernet are still a "go." +1000 The problem it seems to me, is we have a lot of people talking out of their asses, because they don't understand what SuperNet is and how it relates to the coins future or what it has to do with the fundraiser which is a completely separate from SuperNet. I think people need to spend some time educating themselves. I wouldn't be surprised if that's one of the reasons CZ is so leery about making a commitment. I for one admit my ignorance. I'm not a programmer or coder, but I'm very intrigued and interested in this coin and the SuperNet Project. As to windjc, from what I've heard him say, has done nothing but gone out of his way to support this coin, and to do whatever is in his power for it to succeed. People are quick to jump to conclusions based of the simple fact that CZ disagreed with him. As far as I can see he is the only person that has anything constructive to offer. I think I'll take my own advice and spend some time reading up on SuperNet. I've spent a lot more time reading up on SuperNet than that time has gained me in understanding how it works. I do understand what it proposes to offer. There is much written on what it hopes to achieve. There are many new words created to describe it. There are many analogies used. What is missing is the rudely mechanical structures. Going to have to look at code, the marketing spins my head too much. I'm left with the sense that SuperNet has a LOT more to gain by incorporating anonymity than BBR has to gain from SuperNet, and the reasons for that are not particularly reassuring. I just don't see a reason for CZ to rush this. |
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Other / Archival / Re: delete
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on: October 08, 2014, 09:28:11 PM
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I am pretty sure people who value anonymity would be willing to jump through hoops.
You entirely miss the point that if the n00bs think they are protected, then later are attacked or told they are not, they will run the government's coin and good riddence to that horrible mistake they made to trust. Don't go fucking around. This is why i am a developer of mass adopted software and you are not. There is a corollary to this. Adoption and usage is important for privacy. What good are ring signatures if there are too few folks in the rings. Tor had this issue, and it was one of the reasons cited for making it public rather than keeping it only US Navy. ...and so I would suggest that the fewer hoops the better. Also each hoop is a potential tripping point where privacy can be lost. TFM often expresses (expressed?) important points poorly. I get the impression that he thinks much faster than he types and being frustrated by that, takes it out on us, lol. AM/TFM hates centralized everything. He'd rather if everything came from the bottom up. His bottom, supposedly. In reply to a concerned citizen gentleman,
UBERcoin ANNouncement
Launching the latest and last cryptomoney
Total emission: 1337 coins.
Emmision schedule: 72 hours of UBERPoW special hashing function (using special FDIV instruction that makes it 100MHz proof). After that, switch to DERPoS, or Distributed Entropic Regenerative Proof of Stake, the final generation in PoS staking technology. Staking interest is pegged to a basket of ECB and BoJ refi rates, adjusting programmatically as a linear combination of the two.
Launch: to be decided by an hourly D20 roll, with LAUNCH if the dice never stops spinning on a corner.
Moar tech: state of the art ANONOSITY, ultrafast synking, fast blocks, BCI capable wallet "spend with the power of your mind", Web 9000.1 ready, smart contracts, smarter DAC management, super-Turing complete block chain.
JOIN THE REVOLUCION NAO!!
Perfection needs competition. So I'm forking this, changing all the buzzwords to be future-proof with our interplanetary character set ISO/IEC 10646XXX, and basing launch on a d16 perpetual spin event in zero gravitas.  lol lberty if u thnk u cn jst CLONE prefection leik dat u must b rly butthurt yo rofl if ure so smarrt how cum u cant fgure it out that ZERO GRAVITAS MEANS ZERO "WEIGTH"You're catching on. Soon you may see the levity... shutup n00b i lavitate like chriss angle stop n00bings its patethic My pathos is unbounded, weep for me. |
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Other / Archival / Re: delete
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on: October 08, 2014, 09:20:54 PM
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I am pretty sure people who value anonymity would be willing to jump through hoops.
You entirely miss the point that if the n00bs think they are protected, then later are attacked or told they are not, they will run the government's coin and good riddence to that horrible mistake they made to trust. Don't go fucking around. This is why i am a developer of mass adopted software and you are not. There is a corollary to this. Adoption and usage is important for privacy. What good are ring signatures if there are too few folks in the rings. Tor had this issue, and it was one of the reasons cited for making it public rather than keeping it only US Navy. ...and so I would suggest that the fewer hoops the better. Also each hoop is a potential tripping point where privacy can be lost. TFM often expresses (expressed?) important points poorly. I get the impression that he thinks much faster than he types and being frustrated by that, takes it out on us, lol. AM/TFM hates centralized everything. He'd rather if everything came from the bottom up. His bottom, supposedly. In reply to a concerned citizen gentleman,
UBERcoin ANNouncement
Launching the latest and last cryptomoney
Total emission: 1337 coins.
Emmision schedule: 72 hours of UBERPoW special hashing function (using special FDIV instruction that makes it 100MHz proof). After that, switch to DERPoS, or Distributed Entropic Regenerative Proof of Stake, the final generation in PoS staking technology. Staking interest is pegged to a basket of ECB and BoJ refi rates, adjusting programmatically as a linear combination of the two.
Launch: to be decided by an hourly D20 roll, with LAUNCH if the dice never stops spinning on a corner.
Moar tech: state of the art ANONOSITY, ultrafast synking, fast blocks, BCI capable wallet "spend with the power of your mind", Web 9000.1 ready, smart contracts, smarter DAC management, super-Turing complete block chain.
JOIN THE REVOLUCION NAO!!
Perfection needs competition. So I'm forking this, changing all the buzzwords to be future-proof with our interplanetary character set ISO/IEC 10646XXX, and basing launch on a d16 perpetual spin event in zero gravitas. lol lberty if u thnk u cn jst CLONE prefection leik dat u must b rly butthurt yo rofl if ure so smarrt how cum u cant fgure it out that ZERO GRAVITAS MEANS ZERO "WEIGTH"You're catching on. Soon you may see the levity... |
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Other / Archival / Re: delete
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on: October 08, 2014, 09:18:29 PM
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I am pretty sure people who value anonymity would be willing to jump through hoops.
You entirely miss the point that if the n00bs think they are protected, then later are attacked or told they are not, they will run the government's coin and good riddence to that horrible mistake they made to trust. Don't go fucking around. This is why i am a developer of mass adopted software and you are not. There is a corollary to this. Adoption and usage is important for privacy. What good are ring signatures if there are too few folks in the rings. Tor had this issue, and it was one of the reasons cited for making it public rather than keeping it only US Navy. ...and so I would suggest that the fewer hoops the better. Also each hoop is a potential tripping point where privacy can be lost. TFM often expresses (expressed?) important points poorly. I get the impression that he thinks much faster than he types and being frustrated by that, takes it out on us, lol. He appears to like to tell others what to do. As if we really need to listen to him. lol  That's part of it too. Also he reads judgmentally. Its because he knows he is right, so until you can demonstrate that you understand that he is right, he doesn't listen to the part where you can show him that there is more to the picture. There is an old saying. "Those who know everything, can learn nothing." Still, some of my favorite people are like this. |
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