There is some problem with the image that you linked in the op.
Hours ago, OP displayed images very well. I don't know what occured recent hours, but it seems something globally. Recently, I witnessed lower speed of connection to the forum and when I switched between pages/ threads, speed has become slower than early hours today. |
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- High internet speed: about 240GB.
If you compare this map to the speed of the Internet and the prevalence of BTC payments, you will find some sense.
Thank you. I think this factor seriously affects on bitcoin node distribution. In some nations, there are people whom can invest money to run a bitcoin node, but internet speed is thing they might struggle with their local infracstructures, then they give up. How about this question? - Should we use Total Bitcoin Nodes as an indicator for level of powerful contribution of nation on bitcoin global network?
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We all have different merit awarding criteria, and that's the good thing about the system.
I agreed.
Effort != high quality.
Effort != Length
I understand it because posters whom are actually make constructive posts regularly all know that fact. It seems @o_e_l_e_o got my ideas incorrectly. In fact, I implied that with same contents, translators sometimes get more merits from their local boards than original posters whom obviously spent more efforts to compose original threads. There is nothing wrong when locals send their smerits to good translational threads in their boards, but if I were them, I would have merited both original authors and translational threads' authors. They both deserve merits. Moreover, the length of your post and the quality of your English are only minor factors. In trying to write a quality post worthy of merit, you should offer new ideas, personal experiences, or perspectives that other forum users will actually find new and interesting.
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The thread has turned to be a new Mega spam thread, where people multiple-quoted, and developers or community managers of Match Billion platform has still kept silent. They should appear and answer question from community, and request community to reduce multiple quotes. It is about 2 months and a half since the last active day of OP.
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Theymos explained more about freedom for users on Reddit Primarily, it's just that freedom + size = mess, and with bitcointalk.org I've chosen to keep freedom about as high as possible, for example allowing paid signature ads, poor English, micro-earning services which often attract a spammy crowd, etc. Banning these things (and other noise-generating factors) would be easily possible, and would immediately lead to a cleaner environment, but it'd also be a less free environment. IMO there are enough highly-controlled platforms around, and I'd prefer to try maximizing the freedom axis. (Maximizing freedom on the forum was a policy started by Satoshi when he was an admin, BTW, though it was years after he left before the forum became large enough for freedom to actually come in conflict with signal much.) Bitcointalk.org is under active development on two parallel paths: First, although the outward appearance hasn't changed much at all since 2010, I have made tons of changes to the code, including many features. About a year ago for example I added the Merit system, which has improved signal-to-noise quite a bit, by means of changing incentives. Second, a completely new software platform has long been in development. This software is open source, can be run now, and an instance of it is available for example at https://www.cryptos-currencies.com/ . But I don't think that it's quite complete enough to migrate bitcointalk.org to it yet. On both development paths, we try to tackle signal-vs-noise by methods such as categorizing posts better, improving incentives, trying to create smaller sub-communities, etc., but not via restriction, if at all possible. While I don't claim to have nearly maximized the signal-to-noise which might be possible even given a high degree of freedom, bitcointalk.org is pretty anarchic, and it will always be so. (Though note that some sections are much better than others.) If that doesn't appeal to you, then you should use a different site. Smaller communities, like IRC channels and similar, can be both free and have a high signal-to-noise ratio. This was bitcointalk.org in 2010-2013, but it's now too large. You can also have large communities that are more strictly moderated, like /r/Bitcoin. |
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A translation of a relevant post could be given merit(s) just for the effort put in, even though it does not offer any new idea.
This is a worth-discussing point. Sometimes, translated threads received more merits than original ones. I don't deny decent efforts that users put into their translations, but to say their efforts are more significant than original authors, I disagree. Authors of original threads have to do lots of works to compose their threads: Reading, Searching, Composing, Editing. Repeatedly do that before click on Post button. They actually edit their threads many times after that. I guess everyone has their opinion of what makes a good post.
Posters usually think their posts are useful, but the fact mostly is contrasting. It is pretty hard to merit a post which you don't agree with however. I am not sure if I've ever done that before. (*edit, I remember now. I did it. But It is very rare.)
Yep, it's the point. Meriting worth-reading posts which you disagree with.  |
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Let's kick off by raising some question directly: - Which kind of posts deserve merits?
- Do you send your sMerits to users when you simply agree with their posts?
- Do you send your sMerits to users when you diagree with their posts?
There is nothing completely right or wrong in life. What we do believe is right today might turn into wrong one someday later. Nobody knows when current facts turn into wrong ones because all things we cope with are two-sided. Everyone has rights to present personal opinion, and when people put decent efforts to collect proof (from available statistics), from their own calculation/ estimation, from available high-reputable sources, in order to demonstrate their opinion with good intention ( not to make decent works to prove something to scam others), I do believe that their opinion should be respected. At least, their opinions that reflected via posts (in forum) remind us that there are opposite sides that we should spend our time to reconsider, and recheck our opinion is right or wrong. It's only good, not bad. Before going to answer three big questions above, I quoted some posts on merit system, how to use merits, from theymos (there are likely more, but I have not found all of them ATM). In Merit & new rank requirementsI'm hoping that this system will increase post quality by:
- Forcing people to post high-quality stuff in order to rank up. If you just post garbage, you will never get even 1 merit point, and you will therefore never be able to put links in your signature, etc.
- Highlighting good posts with the "Merited by" line.
While we will not be directly moderating this, I encourage people to give merit to posts that are objectively high-quality, not just posts that you agree with.
Please try to merit posts that other people might find interesting, since top-merited posts show up on the stats. In Writing a welcome messageMerit, which is gained by making good posts.
Aside from that, if people complain about whether things deserve merit at all, then that's something to perhaps think about, but if you conclude that they're wrong, then that's that.
Answers:* It is not a guide on merit usages, just my opinion.1. Which kind of posts deserve merits?Answer: Posts that are objectively high-quality or good quality deserve merits. (Please read theymos's opinion above) - Which posts are good/ high-quality? They are posts that on-topics, informative, stay on questions of OPs and other good/high-quality posts in threads. They have to partially (at least) answered questions of OPs or answered other questions from high/ good-quality posts in threads, that gradually popped-up when discussions move further. Posts are informative, answered OPs' questions are still pointless if questions already answered by previous posts. 2. Do you send your sMerits to users when you simply agree with their posts?Yes, you can. However, you should do it wisely, based on quality of posts you agree with. If those posts are high-quality, helpful; I totally agree to send smerits to those posts when you agree with. It means if you agree with low-quality posts, please don't send your smerits to those posts. It is kind of goes against the core purposes of merits. 3. Do you send your sMerits to users when you diagree with their posts?Yes, you can. Once again, whenever a post is high-quality, informative, on-topic, and worth-reading, question-breaking, question-opened (or posts that open the door to discussion as @mikeywith expressed), it deserves merits. It is so easy to identify such posts by yourself. How? If you see a garbage-post, you will move on in seconds. Do you agree? So what if you see a post that catches your attention, and keeps you reading it for a while (minutes or longer), it is a worth-reading post. Even after spending minutes to read and think of ideas inside that post, and finally you disagree with, I do believe that post worths a merit, at least. I recently started focusing on posts that open the door to discussion even if they don't have a direct answer to the problem/question in hand
Some opinions from usersI've personally merited posts which I outright disagree with I do that sometimes, but it confuses people: @LoyceV, meriting/agreeing to the OP from trusted device but disagreeing from non-trusted device  Most people have been conditioned by large corporations to use "Like" and "Upvote", and they're used to it. Merit is different, but it doesn't show when you're meriting a post. Users won't know the difference if they don't read about it on Meta. I'd say Bitcointalk needs a small explanation on how to use them ("merit good posts") on the "Merit a post"-page. As I said before ....many users do not have merits.
What about them?
That will only make them more quiet
Merit isn’t meant for that anyways. An “Agree” would be more about pointing out your opinion without you needing to create a redundant post (not necessarily reward a good post). However, I’m pretty sure that’s not going to happen. Merit is indeed for awarding usefulness, not that you agree or like what the poster wrote.
Please don't use merits as a substitute for "agree" and don't make "+1" posts.
It's a discussion forum so discuss. If you don't have anything else to add other than "+1" then just don't.
I wouldn't do it for posts you "agree with", but for posts that are worth reading. I've done this to posts that stated what I wanted to add to the thread already, so posting it again would be spammy. So I try to highlight the post by Meriting it.
I guess it's caused by actually reading the thread, instead of just responding to the title or OP. I'd say that's a good thing.
I've personally merited posts which I outright disagree with, and have even merited posts which are wrong. However, if there's a good argument or at least some effort was applied then it doesn't matter whether they get their facts a little skewed. Whoever you are you are not going to have all the answers, and especially when discussing technical aspects of Bitcoin. My merit rewarding system is all about effort, and quality rather than being factually correct.
Of course, if they're spewing total nonsense which makes little sense then that's not likely to get a merit, because its likely not constructive, and a quality post to begin with. An example would be discussion of the conspiracy theory that certain people on this earth are lizards. Even though I think that's batshit crazy if they bring some quality discussion, and reason to believe that then I'll likely reward them for that even though I'm totally against the suggestion as long as effort has been applied, and its of high quality regardless of the subject.
This post is what users discussed a few days before merit system released, but it is worth to note that theymos emphasizes he would prefer users using merits not as Like button (see above quotes). Someone who has time should maintain a list of these phishing sites, and we can encourage all new users to update their hosts file.
Someone already did that: https://github.com/StevenBlack/hosts (scroll down a bit to see many different categories hosts files). The one mentioned above isn't on it though, so I've added it by myself. ^ ^ Another post I wish I could simply +1 or "Like" Please Theymos..... 
To end the thread, do you agree with my opinion?  |
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I do my works today and I found that post, which surely gives OP a good reason to keep hoping. I expect merit to tend toward scarcity as time goes on, but when it gets too scarce, I'll have to add more merit sources or give the existing sources more free sMerit. The goal will be to avoid people from feeling like getting merit is virtually impossible, but also to avoid a scenario where everyone is always maxing out the limits because 1 merit is ~worthless.
Each source has a different limit per 30 days. The current average is 185, and in total up to 8125 merit could be created per month.
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I do want it, Jet Cash. There are some famous bitcoin scammers in forum. I remembered someone already made a list of those guys with old trust system (will find it and give you later). List those guys in your site is helpful for crypto newbies, who have not yet known about those guys, and might be trapped by those guys, or buy someone else use the same scamming methods. I visited your site, and saw you wrote some words about phising: "How to avoid phishing scams" What do you think if I suggest to add helpful guides to avoid phising scams? What to do to avoid phising sitesHost-file to deal with phising sites[LEARN] Phishing Quizzes - Beginners & ExpertsStevenBlack's hosts |
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I am curious on the meaning of bitcoin nodes distribution, as below. Source: https://bitaps.com/From the site, and given figures, as of writing, there are 9318 nodes in total, and most of them run and located in the USA. and Germany. Details: - USA: 2636 (28.3%)
- DE: 1669 (17.9%)
- FR: 617 (6.6%)
- NL: 462 (5%)
- CN: 390 (4.2%)
- Others: 3544 (38%)
- Total: 9318 (100%)
It is abnormal to see there are very little nodes in China, that has the biggest bitcoin mining farms, globally. Nodes in China account for only 4.2% of current bitcoin nodes. The first position of the USA does not surprise me, but the second position held by Germany does surprise me a lot. Together, those two nations have more than 46% of the total bitcoin nodes globally. That is a very impressive figure. Among top nations listed, I grouped them into different continents, and found raw results: - America: 2921 (31.3%)
- Europe: 3551 (38.1%)
- Asia: 911 (9.8%)
- Others: 1935 (20.8%)
They are not exactly representative statistics for continents because there are nations in each continent that are not displayed in the top list. I think the raw data shows that America and Europe continents have nearly the same percent of bitcoin nodes, and Asia continent ranked in the third place but significantly falls behind first two continents. I am not familiar to that term, so I am wondering myself with some questions: - Has China lost its leading position in bitcoin ecosystem, that reflected via total bitcoin nodes in that nation? - Should we use Total Bitcoin Nodes as an indicator for level of powerful contribution of nation on bitcoin global network? Thank you all for your help. I am still discovering about bitcoin nodes. Keep learning every day. BTW, have a nice weekend everyone. Bitcoin Q&A: What is the role of nodes? (Andreas M. Antonopoulos)https://medium.com/bitstamp-blog/should-i-run-my-own-node-13c3f6a21627https://bitcoin.org/en/full-node#what-is-a-full-node |
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Congratulations, after long lasting campaigns, Loteo has appeared here. Which coins accepted on Loteo platforms? How about withdrawal fees, will fees will be dynamic ones, depends on networks issues? Or fees will be fixed ones for each coins, and manually set by Loteo team on regular updates?
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Began from @humanrightsfoundation, whom are scammer. He/she started a thread for a proven scam foundation, that was deleted all OP contents days ago. Now, that account has negative trust, and active flag: humanrightsfoundation ( Archive) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5179402.0 (created that threat to self-defend not a scammer). ArchiveHours ago, owner of that account, I guess, began to attack admin with more brandnew/ newbie accounts. Here is list of them, please permanent ban or nuke them all. They tend to create account and threads in Meta and Reputation boards to do their attacks, so if you see them, please leave their usernames and archive their threads here. Thanks. Security EngineerArchiveArchiveJesusFuckArchive
Possible all nuked ? TheyDrinkFromThermosALittleBitRichBitchMrPhisherLuadaIsMyFatherCoinsnnoteshttps://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5180924.0Archive: http://archive.fo/t4TRS |
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You are entitled to your own opinon of course. Lots of people said in the past Dash has no future.
We are proving them wrong every day....
They will reappear at the time they think right time to troll DASH, like Mr.Ice, whom is a year-long loyal troller of DASH. Without them, the thread looks boring, because we all said about positive things of DASH. I do think they actually do great works, to help DASH become more popular in altcoin market. If I am not wrong, DASH ANN thread is one of the biggest ones among top altcoin projects. That is another good fact that DASH has never lost attention from investors and community. What happened with DASH in last two years, since all time high, and what happened with Latin American nations and communitites of DASH there, especially Venezuela will play big role in future of crypto currency, from bitcoin to DASH. |
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Mintdice is a young platform but it has listed many pairs, includes some pairs that are not familiar on other dice sites, like LUX, GAS, NEO, Zcoin, PIVX, and Decred. I think investors of those coins can use them to gamble, especially when altcoin price fell deeply and they have nothing to do with altcoin tradings at the moment.
I am curious that those coins listed on Mintdice due to Mintdice team vision or from those coins' developers request, and if yes, how much fees they have to pay?
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All football leagues in Europe have started for this new season, so I wish the site will have more users, active gamblers, more traffics, bets, then more income. I am on my way to Hero member, and I wish OneHash will restart the platform promotion again, then I can join in coming months. Do you have plans for that, on OneHash or on CyberDice?
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Here: [self-moderated] Report unmerited good posts to Merit SourceIf you are out of sendable merits, you can leave links to good posts you see in that thread, I am sure that many merit sources will see, and it makes their works more easily. I don't know but there are some things we observed, that likely give us theymos' vision on merit allocation per month. Over months, total merits generated and allocated for merit sources don't change. It only change when theymos added new sources, like the latest round, with nearly 10 new merit sources (8 or 9), includes you. Someone thought that all those new merit sources have 50 merits per month for each. Without new merit sources added, I don't see total merits allocation changed. I have no idea that theymos actually restructures merit allocation between merit sources regularly or not. There is another way, boost up your speed of merit earnings. What is less will automatically become more valuable. I think the more sendable merits people have, the more probability they will lessen their criteria to give smerits away. It is kind of basic instinct of human. Good luck. |
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While we will not be directly moderating this, I encourage people to give merit to posts that are objectively high-quality, not just posts that you agree with.
It is not too bad idea, but idea for merit awarding to show agreement with post owners should be applied only for high-quality posts, as theymos stated very long time ago. If we simply I agree with this post, then I award this post owner a merit as a proof of my agreement, it might result in over-arguements from merit abusers. Furthermore, merits should be awarded not only to high-quality posts that we agree with, but also to high-quality posts that we disagree with. Sometimes I just want a “Like” or “Agree” for that. Some posts aren’t exactly worth a merit, but you still want to vouch his idea without needing to create a post for that. If I recall correctly, this was probably the suggestion that resulted in the merit system.
Lots of users suggested about that Like button, or even moved further by suggesting automatic conversion of Like to Merit, ie. 10 likes ~ 1 merit. Unfortunately, the forum is not Facebook, or Twitter, and that Like-Merit conversion only cause more abusements. |
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Hmm okay, how much would you rate my posts on scale of 10? Also any tips on how can I improve?
Why you should not check your post history, only first page? How many posts in first page are one-line posts? How about their post quality in your self-assessment? Then, checking post history of winners in my contest. I think you will find out answer yourself. There is a truth that post length is not a guarentee for post quality, but if someone mainly makes one-line posts, it is a good indicator for not good post quality. |
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After running his campaign to fork bitcoin and get shit Bitcoin Cash, I think now is a very good time for him to run another campaign to ask for community support and fork Bitcointalk.org forum. Unfortunately, I don't think there are significant users here support his coming forked forum, from our beloved forum.
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Rejected. The applied post and your post history do not satisfy my criteria for the contest. Sorry, please try your luck next time. |
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