DaveF's thread overlapped my thread for a bit, and there are some opinion in my thread, If someone pass away, will their Trust feedback still exist permanently ?Their DT1 invitation will time out, and other DT1 members will no longer include them in DT2.
I think these sorts of cases will be very rare, but they will probably work themselves out. As vod said, exclusions can be made for people who are no longer active, but maybe even theymos could step in with the rare cases where someone has died and the issue has been resolved and the feedback can be removed by him if it's silly removing someone just for one feedback, but like I said, it can still be done by current default trust members if the community deems it important enough. Trust feedback is like when someone is been cursed on whether negative or positive way, it keeps on following them till death. In situation like this, the only person that can undo it, is the person that placed it and nobody else. That's why its always advice to do the right thing at all times to avoid been marked upon negatively
People can be forgiven. DT members are added and removed and that can affect a user positively or negatively. Over time they likely will and it's not been that long in Zepher's case, but there's also the debate of should feedback from trusted users be excluded because they're no longer active or have died? Imagine if you have a lot of feedback from users who have left the forum for whatever reasons. You could go from being pretty trusted to having little no feedback. You could make the argument that any active member would continue to get feedback from others but not always, especially if you don't do that many trades as you used to and that's why admin intervention may be better in certain cases to remove a specific feedback that's causing an issue, but maybe theymos still doesn't want to get involved in that.
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Maybe make the DT2 one with a longer duration. 30 days is ok for DT1 but 30 days for DT2 would seem a little short in my opinion. It's probably not that uncommon for less active users to leave the forum for a month or so.
The risk is letting scammers who are only tagged by one person off the hook. Maybe the DT2-requirement should be that a user has been active in the past 6 months or 1 year? On the other hand, it's up to active DT1 members to keep a responsible Trust list. If anything is going to change, I'd much rather see a requirement of 2 DT1 inclustions instead of 1 to become DT2, that limits the number of " Trust selfscratchers". |
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I had to laugh at the first image--I recently mentioned how crazy it was in the first few days of the merit system, which a lot of newbies are probably unaware of. But you only have to look at how many merits Theymos got for that announcement to see my point, or all the merits other members got in the same thread.
Anyway, I kind of like your idea, iasenko. This forum could use some enhancements to spice things up, and I wish Theymos would follow some of the suggestions being made, like yours and the ones about reporter badges and so forth. At the very least, it'd make things more visually appealing and more colorful.
Months ago, people complained that why threads published years ago or inactive thread or inactive users received hundreds of merits. Threads, OPs don't need merits. Users used their merit more generously early days, but it is not reason to complain why they sent merits to theymos, satoshi, Hal Finney and other famous users. Merits were used correctly, anyway. I'm hoping that this system will increase post quality by:
- Forcing people to post high-quality stuff in order to rank up. If you just post garbage, you will never get even 1 merit point, and you will therefore never be able to put links in your signature, etc.
- Highlighting good posts with the "Merited by" line.
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I sat the lowest fee possible so it may take a while According to Bitcoin Core, it should confirm within 4 blocks. Fees are low  I observed transaction fees almost everyday for my thread, and today is the fourth days in a four-continuous-day-period in which people can move their bitcoin at 1 satoshi/ byte. |
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When someone asks how we can earn money on Bitcointalk, signature campaigns is the first thing which comes to our minds usually. Yeah, it's good way to earn some money, but there are much wore ways to earn money here. You only have to be creative. Sell your own services - design, coding, writting of articles and etc. Sell goods on marketplace. Promote your own business. For example if you have online store and accept Bitcoin as payment method, it can be interesting for forum users.
Personally, here I promote my own blog (link to it under my username). I get some traffic from Bitcointalk and I earn affiliate commission from websites that I promote on my blog, I also earn from advertisements placed on my site. So, as you can see there so many ways how you can make money in Bitcointalk.
I have never thought of earning income from website link (as affiliate link). Is this method eligible because I know that posting refferal links inside posts might lead to bans. What I know is refferal links only (I could miss other eligible places) inside signature is acceptable. |
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The request from iasenko is great, and is helpful if someone want to visit old threads, that they already sent merits to OPs previously. It is very easily to see your name in list of merit senders if OPs have not yet received too many merits. In threads, that OPs received huge merits, and list of merit senders is very long, feature to bold, color, glow username if people already merited OPs is excellent ideas. It is just a requrested idea, but I don't think there are very convincing reasons to come back huge threads - that already received hundreds of merits to send OPs additional merits. There are more others need merits and deserve merits for their good contributions, but still not yet receive merits for their good posts.
crtl+f and type your name.
Damn it! You are so smart. I forgot this feature. Thank you. I checked, and result is good.  Nevertheless, not all users - especially newbies - know about that feature, or forgot about it; so the request from iasenko still makes sense. |
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Hello, who's not busy there please verify. -----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
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I'm sheenshane of bitcointalk.org
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I'd like to use an exchange to hold fiat and automate withdrawals from (probably like 4 daily)...
You can automatic trade using bots, but what about automatic withdrawals? I have never heard that people can automatic withdraw their bitcoin using bots. I could miss something, but it sounds risky; withdrawals should be done manually, with good security protection from exchange account, and email account. |
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Mining profits depend on so many factors, and power cost is just one of them.
Some major factors that affect mining profits:
- Power cost
- Block rewards
- Difficulty on network
- Price of coin you mine with your rigs in BTC and in fiat on market
- You rig's hashrate (hardware issues)
Let's start off with your rig's hashrate. If your rigs are very outdated, you can run them over days without any mining rewards, because your rigs are unable to find with others more advanced rigs on network to find blocks and get mining rewards from pools.
Beyond rigs' hardware issuses; block rewards and difficulty on network are other main factors. With same block rewards, lower difficulty will cause higher mining rewards; while with lower block rewards, and same difficutly, you will get less mining rewards. Mining rewards will plummet if bot block rewards decreases (halving, ie.) and difficutly increases
Price of coins on market: If you can not sell your coin on market at 1 satoshi, you will never get profits if you mine millions of coins.
Miners should look at bitcoin price, price of coins they're mining, and other factors above to have overview on mining profits in both short term and medium term.
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I gave you one merit for the thread, but I have a small proposal for you to improve OP. I think it is better if you don't not hold everything like that, just hold and highlight important words/ phrase.
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There really is no need for a proof, we all know that most of us here don't really have the same "standards" when it comes to sending merit , I sometimes merit posts that make me laugh , I would like to see a single member who sent a few hundreds of merit without having merited a funny-shitty post, I am willing to bet on "none". The problem with these newbies coming in thinking the merit system is being used by a bot that is always consistent, which is not the case, in fact if you look at suchmoon's topic Users that you should merit, you will notice that some merit sources haven't sent a single merit to some members who earned over 1000 merit, which indicates that there is some sort of personal preference , 5 people might think your posts deserve to be merited while 10 other people might think your posts are complete trash , some people do post quality posts but members hate them for their shitty attitude - thus they earn way less merit than other members with the same post quality. I personally don't see anything seriously wrong with how the merit system works ,despite the imperfection, it is doing just fine. People complain and cry when see laughing posts received merits. They instantly judge that merit senders and receivers are merit abusers. They don't understand that everyone need laugh to have a happy life. Furthermore, no one can rank up with such posts; because if they earn 100 merits in total, and all of those 100 earned merits are come from laughing posts, they will sure be considered as abusers. Intensity and quantity of those laughing posts and merits earned mixed together to help us judge someone abuse merits or not. Nowadays, black market of merit or black market of accounts have come to end, due to Trust, Flags, merit system. A bought-legendary account will be caught if apply in bitcoin paid campaign, and with shit-post history, will never get acceptance. |
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Somehow it could be as @hacker1001101001 just said that someone could make a bot just to make them get many reports and that will be easy for them to get those badges. I report some posts without thinking I could get that badge but a good thing if it will be implemented and I'll accept that fact that I could get a badge, the only thing is not all to have the same thinking as I or some other people neutral to this "reporter badges".
Most people are abuser but if the only reward for a good rate of reporting is just a badge or nothing else involved especially getting some merits or ranking up I guess that will limit some people in regards to the satisfaction they'll get. What I want to point out is just let it alone a badge and increase the quota of the required report to something like 10k or above.
Spending 5 or 10 minutes each day to visit spam boards, and report spam posts, as small contribution to clean the forum. Some easy place to find them, altcoin discussions, announcements (altcoins) - especially new born projects usually bumped by newbies. Badge has nothing to do with money, financial aspect, I don't think people with reporter badge will have higher probability to get acceptance from managers. Like what managers look at merit history, that is not enough to assess post quality. Therefore, I dont' think there are many people will abuse report system to get badges. |
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Sometimes newbies also wonder why their lengthy posts that is on-topic is also deleted by the mods, well they don't put it into consideration that even posting repeated answers makes their post irrelevant to the topic and cannot be considered as helpful for the thread which makes them a target for members reporting it to the mods. Not only reading the OP isn't enough anymore you must also consider what others have been contributing to the thread and must know what you will add new to it next.
In some boards, people simply visit, and write anything they think of, in their perspective, and don't care about what already discussed in above/ previous posts. Somehow their posts are off-topic, and off-context. Admin mentioned about role of length of post in good posts. It is just one of minor factors and itself is not enough to build up a good post. oreover, the length of your post and the quality of your English are only minor factors. In trying to write a quality post worthy of merit, you should offer new ideas, personal experiences, or perspectives that other forum users will actually find new and interesting.
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And also having rule like "Posts in a thread after 100 replies won't be counted for paid post" will bring a huge change.
You mean like this: Such rule is unnecessary, because campaign managers have their own local rules for their campaigns. They have rights to judge which posts will be counted, which posts will be uneligible (where posts made and / or their quality) A good post does not need to be too long to help other. SpamMeta threads should not be counted, I agreed; but 100 replies are too litle to call as SpamMeta threads. If there is a strict rule, all posts made in serious spam sections should not be counted. But it is managers' issues, and their campaigns, not forum issues. My post in this thread is the #95.  |
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I personally ignore megathreads in general, and on boards such as Bitcoin Discussion
For bitcoin discussion, I only visit the WO thread. Rest threads discuss about bitcoin price (not technical development issues, I meant) are mostly shit ones. They are place for spammers, and I don't want to waste my time to visit those thread and read. It is impossible to thoroughly get ideas flow in those bitcoin discussion threads. People keep posting, without reading previous posts, and don't care that their ideas presented by others above or not. |
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And also having rule like "Posts in a thread after 100 replies won't be counted for paid post" will bring a huge change.
I don't catch your ideas here. If you think such rule should be updated in forum, why not ask for automatic feature to lock threads after total posts inside threads hit 100? Anyway, I don't think your ideas (in case I catch it correctly) is logically. Good posts are good posts, whatever they are 100th, 200th, or 1000th position in threads. Shit posts are shit posts, whatever their positions in threads. Please don't ask for rule to stop people making their good posts, and giving their hands (through their posts) to help others. Legendary members (good ones) should keep posting and help community or they should switch to read-only mode when they reach that rank or reach a fixed number of merits? |
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I remembered I read forum years ago has some colorful features, such as different highlighted colors for donators, something like that. However, over time, these ones turned off due to bandwithd consumptions (not sure, I just recalled, and I could be wrong). Therefore I highly doubt that forum will re-activate or activate some features like what you suggested.
If I find links to those things, I will update the post later. (still not found yet, maybe moderators know about that)
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Mitchell's is custom coded, and I'm not entirely sure of the contents of it. However, its been pretty effective in finding spam posts. The thing is with automated systems there is a margin of error, and they will hit false positives. That's why Mitchell's script doesn't ban or anything like that. I've seen some of the automated reports coming in, and you can tell which ones they're.
The bot looks for certain phrases/words/links that are known to be spam/being spammed/etc and I usually only add the ones that are quite bad/annoying (for example, the Telegram spam we had for a while). It indeed only removes the post and nothing more in case it's a false-positive. Do you mean when there are spam waves with same post contents, you will add those contents into your bot, to find spam posts automatically, and do spam reports? Here it is with links removed: Hi How to make money on the stock exchange Yobit
Official AltCoin Signals
Coins rise 200%+ or more
80 huge signals
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Official AltCoin Signals
Coins rise 200%+ or more
80 huge signals
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I was surprised by your quoting style: it's much more common to reply under the quote, not above it.
I could be wrong, sorry. Does it relate to any kind of ettiquete? If yes, I will correct it. Honestly, I quote and type my ideas, and don't have intention with typing above or below quotes. Arbitrarily! But it seems you are right, typing below quotes look more friendly, easier to get flow of ideas, and shows respects. I will correct my quoting style. Thank you for warning me. It's OK to buy it, if you somehow loose your account (get banned) , you loose money. Those who have build up their account from scratch to reach Member won't risk it. The forum makes some profit so that's good.  They are different: - One grown up from scratch to become Member; - Another one created account; bought CopperMembership.
I do not understand it, because I think Meta is for forum-related issues. This one relates to forum issues, in my opinion. This has nothing to do with Meta, I think it should be in Reputation. Well done, Sir! Back ontopic: I've done that: I accepted Copper Members equal to Members, as long as they earned 35 Merit. This has nothing to do with "being unfair", all users can buy Copper Membership if they want it. Campaign managers shouldn't pay spammers though, with or without Copper Membership. Before they can be banned, due to community reports, they will be able to spam and get money. Or they are more careful than standard spammers, so they will hardly to get bans, but their posts are far from constructive. Click "Report to moderator", they can still be banned.
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If account sales, merit sales are discouraged; misuse of Copper membership should be discouraged too. Someone buy a Member account, neg tag Someone buy 10 merits, neg tag What if someone buy a Coppermembership, and spam (or higher quality than spam, to avoid bans, but too far from constructive posts) ? Is this behaviour different than buying account or buying merits? If CopperMembership created with one of functions to fight against spammers/ farmers with evil IPs, and initially for good developers; it should be used correctly, with supports from managers.
Baronet, you now has same rights as Copper Member. Congratulations! I wasn't really in favour of copper memberships, but you make a good point. Anything that helps to reduce the sale of accounts is good for the forum in my opinion.
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