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1621  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Short term investment suggestion on: May 31, 2022, 11:40:19 AM
Guys, any suggestions for short-term investment?
I choose top coins such as ETH, BNB or SOL for short term investments, I think it is very worth it to take small profits and also small risks.
I suggest there are also take such steps, although the profit is small but it is very worth it with the risk.
Doesn't make any sense at all to me. If you are looking to invest short-term then rather go for projects with potential instead of going with a top 20-50 coins which no doubt are good but have very little to no room for growth in the short-term. If you are looking to invest long-term then yeah better go for coins with some solidity and market cap behind them.

To me, short-term investment means you are looking to make quick money and long-term investment shows you are ready to wait for a long time but cannot afford to lose too much value.
1622  Economy / Economics / Re: What happens if BTC's price falls to $8,000? on: May 30, 2022, 06:38:23 PM
"Temporary." That's accurate.
If ever it goes down to $8000 there will always be buyers waiting. Bitcoin ain't like Luna or other altcoins that was forgotten after being dumped hard.
It created a strong trust that even at it's lowest there will always be high amount of demand.
Remember, it will not be the first. Last know dump was from $20k to $3k and look at where it is now. They call it correction but I call it the strength of Bitcoin and it's nature of volatility.
Luna and other altcoins that dumped hard are not forgotten but they are already part of the crypto history and on some time, people will always talk about them and compare them to the best cryptos. For the luna coin, there are still some hope left and people don't give up buying the coin. They expect that the team will pumped it to at least a dollar. Indeed the dump that happened in bitcoin is not the first but it will also not be the last.

I guess that's the reason why some people are confident to wait even if the price have already dumped. They are not afraid to miss the chance because there's always next time. Right, corrections isn't only just a correction but it has a double meaning to some of us.
1623  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: A single trading tool is not enough on: May 30, 2022, 12:32:00 PM
These days everyone is failing. Do whatever kind of analysis but peeps are always failing at right prediction due to world wide economic crisis. Whether it’s cereals, or gold or bitcoin everything is crushed down badly. Food is getting costly at one end while currencies are weakening against dollar and what not! Seriously traders are predicting something at one end and the news slaps everything out of it and change the path of trading. Things are tough these days.
Honestly if you are a smart trader you can make money even from bear markets just by being smart and calculated with your moves. I give you an example I saw how people made money even when everyone else was losing money to the Luna attack or scam whatever. So smart traders knew the price will plummet and they opened short positions against Luna and as the price continued to drop they made thousands and millions of dollars just by repeating it.

We do need to understand that it's not that easy and that is why I didn't try it myself but if you have some knowledge and experience and know-how and when to short and long a particular coin, you can actually make a decent chink of money. Maybe start with a small amount and learn how it's done and then once you feel you have mastered the art of leverage and futures trading, go big.
1624  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: New coins bring a lot of big profits on: May 30, 2022, 05:23:33 AM
Luna is a messed up project, newbies need to stop talking about the project and find the better ones, what about Saito, Metahero, Immutable X, and few other web 3 / 2nd layer blockchain projects? I believe that's what will matter in near future.
I agree with you. Investing in anything created or even touched by Do Kwon is like playing with fire and more often than not you will get burnt doing so. People have been buying Luna and then Luna 2.0 after it's launch and I have actually stopped following what's happening because I don't trust that man Do Kwon one bit. He promised to share a report on what's happened with Luna but never provided any report like that.

The guy is more of a dictator and has enough support to keep creating Luna 2, luna 3 and maybe lun 50 some day until people have lost every penny to his scammy projects.
1625  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: is it possible UST recovered ? on: May 28, 2022, 11:34:33 AM
What would they use as stablecoin in Luna v2?  I did read some users talking that they will be using USDT as reserve to peg their stablecoin. Is it confirmed?

They are about to start it, I am thinking of getting in even just worth alittle amount grabbing 100K LUNA for the snap. If the price of v2 will be like $1, that's a very good profit. Its the possibility of it going to a $ will be doubted by many of the speculator.
I would guess that if you are getting anything from the snap then it's fine and sell it and move on. However, reality is that nothing will make it recover and it will always be a shitty thing and it will never recovering ever again. I believe that UST and Luna are fully gone and it will not recover. They can do all the snapshot, all the rollback, all the things they want to do and it will never recover because the idea is gone.

Coins itself could recover magically today, even in that situation it will go back down. When you lose peoples approval, there are no methods that you could comeback, there are just thousands of other coins they could invest, why care about Luna.
1626  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin fall below $30k on: May 27, 2022, 07:44:19 PM
It will lessen the stress that you can suffer during the fall, dumped is unavoidable during the bearish

market, there are weak holders who can't take the deceased when looking inside their portfolio,
those kinds of investors are very possible to suffer in losing a huge amount of money.

If you are not ready to take the risk, it's best to observe and try to make your entry whenever you are comfortable
to what things that may happen after you place your entry.
The type of people who would be upset about the situation at this point, would be the same people who would be upset that the price dropped a bit right after they bought because they could have gotten at a better price. We just need to learn to just be patient and we would be doing better.

Why focus on what you could have made, when you could focus on what you could still make. Sure there are some who bought at 50k, and they are upset right now, but instead of being upset about that, why not be happy that you could drop that by buying the same amount at 30k and drop the average to 40k and you could recoup that quicker? Many people do not do that.
1627  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Bear market every team will pump their own coin on: May 27, 2022, 11:49:38 AM
its the holders that will suffer for the team themselves will also sell their tokens. They will wait for the price to reach its rock bottom before they will start buying back as sort of pumping their own tokens leaving the traders who wants to buy at lower price. This will result to more pump when they keep buying at higher price too.
 
He needs to keep an eye on any player and to get ahead of him but he has to know if he is being harmed and if he wants to depend on it he has to keep it on top of him all the time but the coins he has here  You have to be careful about which time you sell, but you can have it For this reason, I think they should always look at it as a tendency not to get hurt and not to get it
Player? Or you mean to say influencer? Because they are the ones that can manipulate the prices of the coins but when you say player I assume what you mean is a normal buyer or seller, but there is no way to tell if what is going to be their next moves because they will likely keep it as a secret. Unless maybe if you know a player nearby like your relatives and friend, you will know if what are their plans.

If you want to, you can make your moves ahead of them but I am not really sure if that was beneficial since a normal player or person, don't have the ability to control and manipulate a crypto like what the whales and influencers are doing.
1628  Economy / Economics / Re: Constant defamation of crypto on: May 27, 2022, 11:10:27 AM
Freedom of speech is one of the most misunderstood things in the world and will always stay that way. You enter a freedom of speech against your government, not with each other. You could say "fuck you biden" or "fuck you trump" and nothing will happen to you, but if you say "fuck you x person" then that person could sue you for something, I forgot the name of it, and will probably not win that case, but thats not freedom of speech. Or saying "I will kill xxx person" is not freedom of speech, you spoke, its a speech, but its a threat, meaning not everything you say will be cowarded behind freedom of speech. Its basically only works for saying "I hate the president and the senators, they are bunch of idiots" and not have anything happen to you, which is awesome because in my nation, if you do that then you will be jailed. Simple as that, try to say anything to our president and you will be jailed, which is why freedom of speech is quite important and wish we had it too.
So you are saying that what they did there to crypto is only normal and just a part of freedom of speech? Well don't worry I am not against with what you said or what they have said but I actually get your point and also theirs. We even have random people that also hates crypto but we never get angry with them but we only ignore them because we know that what they are saying are not true and won't affect crypto in any way.

I only don't understand why most of us cant do the same on the famous personalities? Maybe because they are famous and have a lot of followers and they are afraid that many people are soon going to hate cryptos but I believed the number of crypto supporters are still plenty when compared to them.
1629  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What approach do you expect from the Government if your Country adopt bitcoin? on: May 27, 2022, 09:28:45 AM
I really don't see adoption as a thing if you are referring to Adoption in terms of being a Government legal tender. Let them just allow for trading/investment like it has always been and those that want to accept it for payments can do so because the Government of my Country as I know them, will be the worst with laws and regulations if they were to adopt Bitcoin. 
It could be basically letting crypto be something that people could use in regular purchases and all of that? I mean it is not really a clear thing what we are talking about here, but we could handle all of this regularly if we just got it as legal tender usually. Of course it is not going to be a simple thing, of course legal tender is the top version and it is going to be nothing easy to get there for most major nations.

However, if we are just allowed to accept bitcoin and pay bitcoin without any law problems, and get adoption rate increased by tax regulations being a bit more lax, even that alone would be amazing, people would turn to crypto to pay less taxes.
1630  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: So my portfolio is down %70...too late to pull back now I guess on: May 26, 2022, 02:23:26 PM
Your portfolio down until 70% better keep hold it and waiting time take recovery or make cut loss when your portfolio down under 40% or 30%. Still the same with you I got down portfolio and have been 1 years waiting when price going up, but my portfolio down under 40% and have take recovery last several months, but sadness not selling my altcoin until get down again and loss opportunity to get back my capital. I think not have to worried if you hold potential coin your portfolio will back to the top price, keep hope and don't forget pray every time get back your altcoin holding reach higher price.
Holding it will be a very hard thing when you are down that much but people need to learn this. I mean I am down 50% as well, and that is not a problem for me, well I am actually up and not down, but I am 50% down from my peak portfolio which is why I do not believe that this would be any difference to me.

I hope that people would learn how to hold, but if they are holding something like Luna then we shouldn't say that they should hold and it will recover, holding could be still done in that case but it will probably not recover. So, it is going to be something that would be difficult, both keep holding it but first you need to learn to pick something decent.
1631  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Best Proposal for LUNA on: May 26, 2022, 01:38:04 PM
BURN is, in my opinion, the best proposal for LUNA. What are your thoughts on it? What will happen next, and which proposal will be approved?
Cannot believe it that until now so many people still can't moved on from this scam coin. Why can't you guys just accept the fact that it's gone. The founder and the team are now being hunted by the authorities and will soon be rotten in jail and by that, will they still have the time to make this feature?

And in case they are now inside the cell, who will operate this centralized shit coin? Common, this was not the only coin on this sphere but there's so many good and trustworthy coins than luna. Keep repeating the same things can only lead for some issues like mental and possibly harm your physical health because you won't eat or sleep anymore.
1632  Economy / Economics / Re: What happens if BTC's price falls to $8,000? on: May 26, 2022, 11:33:04 AM
The last time it fell below $4000, heaven didn't fall, the patient investors who never sold enjoyed what it takes to be a holder of bitcoin, and more people became bitcoin holders. If the price should go to that level, I will be happy to buy too and trust me, many will become at least twice what they have been holding all this while in their bags.
While the market is been bearish with many calls, speculation and bad comments, to be sincere I don't think the bitcoin price will fall to that level unless we see something more disastrous than we had during the corona period. Again, if bitcoin should go that low, the stock would come close to an end too.
This should be the thing that we should remember at all times. Yes it wasn't a problem because we recovered. Everyone talks about the big bear year of 2018, well we were 20k and dropped to under 4k at that time, why not focus on that? If you bought it at 4k, and sold it at 68k when it peaked last year, that would have been 17x return in 3 years. Can you imagine that, what type of investment can return 17x ever?

I am not saying that we are going to have the same again, maybe we will, or maybe we won't but I know for a fact that people who did not buy at that time regretted it, and people who are not buying right now will regret it later on as well.
1633  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Everything stop on: May 26, 2022, 07:26:52 AM
Todays current situation for Luna all my works just stop and cant belive whats going on with this scenario!!  Lost too much in my life savings!! Now thinking about invest on btc at least there is no chance like 98% dump at least stable coin looking to more risky!!
All your work stop? No way. Not all things in this world revolve only to luna and if luna have stop showing a signs of life then this coin might considered to be dead but not the market or any other work/job. I would believe you more if you will say covid/pandemic because this is the real one that paralyze the jobs/work of the people and it also affect almost everything including the market of cryptos but don't worry because you aren't the only one that lose money on that coin but many people are also saying the same thing that they lose everything, they lose their life savings.

Well, it was your fault guys. How many times it's been said that when we invest, invest only what we can afford to lose. This is the time where people will value btc more. If only you guys realized before that btc is much valuable than any other coins, you won't end up like this.
1634  Economy / Speculation / Re: BTC -85% FROM ATH IN NOVEMBER..... on: May 26, 2022, 05:28:41 AM
To me there has only been 3 big bull runs... We are just slipping down from that 3rd one now.

The 2013/2014...... 2017/2018..... and the 2020/21......

The first 2 both lost 85% before reversing upwards.. Can we expect the same now? 

We keep hearing "INSTITUTIONAL ADOPTION" and a bunch of other buzzwords but why wouldn't it be similar?

If we are to go 85% down from November ATH we can expect a $10,000 - $12,000 BTC..

Although the flag pole from the obvious bear flag that formed since November 17th takes us to $17/18k BTC..
According to your representation above. We can see that every 4 years there's a bull run that occurs. I am afraid that the next bull run is going to be felt on the year 2024 which could be true? Since the halving is also set on this date.

It's going to be a long wait then (around 2 years) but for someone that can't wait that long, they can still do something. They can set another plan like doing shorter term investing or they can also do trading since our goal is to take advantage of the small pumps or frequent fluctuations. This can be the only way to make a profit during that time frame. Whichever the price you state above comes true, I think people won't have a choice but to accept it. Price can still recover anyway
1635  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Experience of using a cryptorobot on: May 25, 2022, 05:50:20 AM
I talked for some time with algo traders who actively trade through robots and came to the conclusion that the most efficient bot is the one that is written with your own hand for a specific strategy based on statistics or a robot written by some programmer to order, for your strategy. All robots that are purchasable off-the-shelf solutions will not bring long-term success, especially robots that are trying to sell online for a small amount.
Which actually is the whole point of bots that many people do not realize.

Bot is not to magically create strategies for you. That job is your job, to find the strategy that works for your level of time, bankroll and risk,,, bot is simply there to automate those strategies and let you sleep and do other things instead of staring at the screen the whole day Smiley

But I guess people think of bots as 'tricks' to earn.
That's true for some. They miss understand the true use case of these bots. This is why many people create bots and sells them in the market. They then put some description that this bot can work wonders only to fool the newbie and those who looks for easy money. I am not sure but maybe there are communities or forum where people gather and talk about crypto trading bots.

If we are lucky maybe we can find scripts there that we can just download and load it on our own bots, same with what I am doing with gambling bots but they are just a strategy and won't still guarantee that someone can earn unlimited profits without experiencing to lose anything.
1636  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Delta Exchange - Anyone use it? on: May 24, 2022, 02:21:12 PM
Just wondering if anyone has any experience with delta.exchange? The volume seems low but not too low. KYC is required but just a verified phone number.

Is this exchange related to that failed Defi Deltaexchange from 2018?

Please reply if you used or are using this exchange.
It sounds like the late etherdelta and forkdelta but only these two are a decentralized type of exchange while this one we have here is centralized since they ask for a phone number. I don't consider that as a kyc but a kyc to me is when you have been ask by a valid ID cards or passports and also undergone to a live selfie.

This exchange can also be related to that defi exchange that you mentioned because both names are also identical to each other but the only way to find out or to be more sure is to visit them and start comparing them with the other site that you know. You can also message the costumer support directly and ask about this matter.
1637  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: The worst odds of winning... on: May 23, 2022, 05:30:20 PM
Tigerwood is a Legend yes, but legends are destined to be replaced by younger bloods or rising star of that field.
I think the legendary of Tigerwood faded earlier than expected that happened exactly when he was at his peak after he had a divorce with his ex wife Elin Nordegren in 2010. The divorce that took so much from wood including their home in Windermere about $110 million and child support for the children. Woods career dwindled after that emotional trauma.

However he has a lot of experience as an experienced professional who can make some surprises. Age may not be on his side compared to the young guys on the game but then they say old wine taste better.
And there's also a saying that age is only just a number. This is true because if we can see there are lots of old aged people but are still looking young and physically fit. They are active and can do things that mostly younger people do. I heard woods have suffered from injuries? This can be the reason why his performance have been affected but if only not because of this, the golf superstar can always perform better. The issue about his relationship had happened long ago so he already have recovered from that.

@BitcoinPanther no way man. Legends are legends and that won't be erased anymore. These younger generations needs to eat more rice before they get on the level of the legends like woods.
1638  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Don't trade your Bitcoin like Laszlo Hanyecz on: May 23, 2022, 03:28:20 PM
A big lesson
Do you know your Bitcoin asset can worth more than you could ever image in time? Hodl and buy more since price is down and await the future to decide.
 I'm a Bitcoin optimist!
Yes, we already know this but thanks for reminding us once again. It's helpful in case someone is worrying lately due to heavy bears and forgot that they are holding a valuable item (a piece of gem).

Nowadays it's now easy to determine if what cryptos are valuable and can worth more in the future especially if you are an experienced guy in cryptos but back on the days where btc was still new, no one would ever thought that it can rise above to hundred or a thousands of dollars. That is why we have that pizza guy laszlo that confidently spends a whopping of 10k bitcoin only for the two boxes of pizza. Sorry but some of your approach are kinda offensive. You are not respecting the hero or the legend that introduce bitcoin to the world as a legit currency.
1639  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Copy Trading - experience and tipps on: May 22, 2022, 08:41:17 PM
People who made money from copy trading are the only people who are appears in the advertisements and sponsored influencers, but in real life they got profits but not the success in real life. We should never expect the success in our life comes from the effects of someone else, the rich people can take high risky moves and their one trade maybe good enough to bring few millions to them but this is not applies for an average trader who trades with hundreds.
That's how advertisement works. They need to make sure that they will create a quality content that will surely attract the people to use their service but I think most of us already know this, that ads are totally different from the real experience. If making money is easy as copying others' work then all of us will try it but this is bad because people will become lazy and will only depend on others.

They will not make an effort anymore to learn by themselves. Rich people can risk big and you think this is a good thing? Yes, maybe if the outcome is positive but what if they get unlucky and lose the money that they stake? They will also suffer a huge lose and it can be hard for them to accept it.
1640  Economy / Economics / Re: Constant defamation of crypto on: May 22, 2022, 06:29:39 PM
People defaming it and the governments that are not in support of it are only after the self benefits they get from the use of the fiat currency currently. Many have done research and saw that cryptocurrency is here to stay and take over the centralized means of saving money and that is hard for them to believe because they’re blinded by their corrupt mindset. No one can be forced to do against their will, let those that embrace it enjoy its benefit and those that don’t should stop misleading others that are interested in it.
The future is uncertain. We don't know what awaits with us or to these cryptos but one thing is for sure and that is cryptos cant overcome fiats. As we can see, majority of the countries now are into cryptos but only one to two countries have made cryptos a legal tender but despite of it I think those countries are still using a fiat because fiats on their country are still there.

Some countries and banks are also starting to create their own version of cryptocurrency. That only shows that they are not confident with cryptos to be a fiat replacement but I agree that, if they don't like cryptos then fine but can they please shut their mouth up and we will also stop hating them.
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