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721  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 🥊 The UFC Info and Prediction Thread on: November 14, 2023, 06:14:19 PM
They would better fight for a retirement belt then Cheesy Dunno how this fight gonna prove that Bones is GOAT and add something to his legacy, but when you are (was) number 1 p4p, beating retired fireman does not give you any point of cool. Winning a guy who hasnt fought almost for 1.5 year, when you are supposed to be best UFC fighter, imho this is not the best way to end career or claim to be someone special.

Bones got injured and gonna return in 8 months (wiki says that). Stepe gonna be almost 42 that time. Dunno what should I expect from that fight. I would better watch Aspinal making his first belt defence against <insert name>.

It almost sounds like it's some sort of Jon's personal ambition rather than anything else, but this ambition is not very ambitious  Grin
Stipe's last fight was in March 2021, so already over 2.5 years ago (time flies fast doesn't it). If Jones needs another 8-10 months to recover, there's a risk that fight will have very low interest.
Imo, the best course would be to get Stipe to fight someone else soon (since he's not officially retired) and if he wins, his fight with Jones would at least make some sense. Although, in theory, the original champion (Jones) should be facing an interim champ (Tom) after the recovery.
722  Economy / Economics / Re: AI will put an end to work, says Elon Musk on: November 14, 2023, 06:01:53 PM
X, formerly Twitter. Take out all the engineers and content moderators, and that business will be shuttered by regulators within a few months, because AI is terrible at building original products and disinformation classification (ironically, classification was one of the first use cases discovered for neural networks).

Also all AI companies - because AI cannot train itself.

Not a best example, since Twitter sacked huge portion of their staff after Elon Musk took it over (he said it was around 80%) and not only that didn't hurt them, but it turned out to be a good move. It wasn't due to the automation though.
AI should be able to train itself and there are claims that it already is.

Managers. AIs aren't going to just suddenly get a connection to the outside, sensory world and deal with the kind of people-management they have to do.

That's the huge incentive for automation - cut out the human labour and you will no longer need management to look after the workers. Not to mention that it's a known fact (largely exposed by remote working during covid) that huge chunk of the middle management is completely useless and doesn't even have to be replaced by anything.

Sure, there will likely be *some* positions where people will be necessary, but it's all about numbers, if 1 coder equipped with AI can do work of 1000 coders, they'll need to find something else to do, which will be getting harder as automation affects pretty much every industry. And as much as say 10-20 years ago some experts were dismissing the problem, currently there seems to be a consensus that technological unemployment is inevitable. It's not a question of if, but when.
723  Local / Polski / Re: Ogólne rozmowy na temat kampanii sygnatur on: November 14, 2023, 05:38:35 PM
Po raz pierwszy od 190 tygodni jestem bez sygnaturki. Wiecie coś może o wolnych miejscach w waszych kampaniach?

Ah, przykro slyszec, ale na pewno znajdziesz cos nowego.
U mnie na razie nie rekrutuja nowych, ale jakby cos sie zmienilo to dam znac.

o kurcze, a z jakiego powodu zostałeś usunięty?

Mieli duze ciecia i zredukowali liczbe partycypantow do jedynie 10ciu (z chyba 60), i Janusz sie nie zalapal do tej 10tki.

ps. eXch.cx maja tylko 1 wolne miejsce.
724  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Overview of Bitcointalk Signature-Ad Campaigns [Last update: 12-Nov-23] on: November 14, 2023, 05:29:03 PM
Small update on the Roobet campaign - they decided to reduce the number of participants from the original 60 to only 10.
Source: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5233355.msg63152989#msg63152989


On the positive side eXch.cx appears to be open to new participants (probably not for long though) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5464074.0 (edit, it's just 1 slot)
725  Economy / Economics / Re: Entrepreneurship and women on: November 13, 2023, 06:07:18 PM
Making entrepreneurship will not be complete without the role of women in full participation, there are categories that we could have these into and women specifically have their own areas of specializations ones it comes to an enterprise discussion affairs, they like making business and probably this is under the fact that they dislike loosing money, instead they will be fully involved in anything that could make them earn than loosing.

Men and women are different and there's a reason vast majority of entrepreneurs are men. Although there is a large number of women having "their own" businesses, especially in female dominated sectors such as hairdressers and alike, child minders etc, but the vast majority of larger enterprises are started by men. What's funny, there are still people blaming sexism for that disproportion, despite the fact that you don't need anyone's permission to become entrepreneur.
What's also interesting, is that even the small portion of women who decided to go that route is still different than their male counterparts as per OP's stats.
726  Economy / Economics / Re: AI will put an end to work, says Elon Musk on: November 13, 2023, 05:52:31 PM
I also think the same as you and most people are afraid because it seems like AI was created to replace human work or something else and not as an ease for humans in handling work. Worrying about Al's presence may not be so bad because humans have to think of solutions when things like that start to develop and there are some people who feel very worried that Al's presence could eliminate their jobs in the future. This kind of thing can affect human life in fear because as technology becomes more sophisticated, humans must be able to adapt, instead of feeling worried and not trying to find solutions to their problems.

For me, something like this is not that surprising because if we try to look back at the last few decades there will be an answer. That is, in the past we only heard about technology that was not that sophisticated, but now we are in an era of advanced technology. So there will be a handful of people who will create new innovations and perhaps ordinary people will have difficulty following them or even those of us who understand technology a little more will also have difficulty following them.

OK, how do you personally adapt to situation when AI/automation is developing exponentially and will be able to replace almost all human work? Can you point out few areas that are human labour is essential and non-replaceable?
Do you guys have any concrete arguments other than just wishful thinking? Do you think that elites are acting with your best interest in mind rather than their own? If so, what makes you think so?
If you accuse people of having irrational fear, it would be nice to explain why is it irrational. And if you can't, maybe you're in the wrong.
727  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How Would you Like Your Pension Paid in Bitcoin? on: November 13, 2023, 05:44:20 PM
If you had a pension scheme in Bitcoin, you would definitely be much better position today. It would indeed have been a landmark decision if such an initiative had been taken by the government. But such thinking will not be useful because if the government does not support it. Bitcoin must be validated first. Bitcoin is completely illegal in my country so even thinking of something like this makes no sense. It can be implemented if the government in your country supports it. People get their pension money after working for a long time. Doing something like that would be really profitable for a Bitcoin holder. We want to holt but many times we fail to hold due to various reasons but if a pension scheme account can be opened with Bitcoin then it will undoubtedly be a good idea. Bitcoin pension holders will be ahead from all kinds of holders.

I don't think it's possible to invest your pension funds in Bitcoin even in the countries when Bitcoin/crypto are legal. That's where spot ETFs could be really handy and they could potentially have huge impact on the BTC price.
That being said, there are potentially ways to bypass any bans on investing in Bitcoin, i.e. by investing in companies that have huge exposure to Bitcoin and their stock price moves in line with Bitcoin's. The best example would be Microstrategy, who slowly becomes an effective Bitcoin ETF without officially being one just by virtue of their huge BTC holding.
728  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Boxing Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: November 13, 2023, 05:24:49 PM
Does appearing weak imply that he didn't take the fight seriously? While the bout against Ngannou may not have been a championship fight, it was an official one. Losing would mean a blemish on Fury's record. Therefore, let's not assume he didn't train hard for Ngannou; that would be disrespectful to a UFC professional transitioning to boxing who came close to defeating Fury. We need to move past that and see how Fury matches up against Usyk. Personally, I still think Fury would come out on top, and I believe the public shares the same sentiment.

Wow, I didn't know that fight was official, I was sure it was organised as an exhibition.
Anyhow, that's the beauty of all fight sports, if often doesn't go the way everyone expects. When you have two strong guys, both with 2 hands and both knowing how to throw a punch - anything can happen. It actually can end up pretty well for Fury. After the fight with Usyk, he could fight Francis again, maybe for even bigger purse. And if he wins decisively, no one will even remember the first fight.
Lets face it, apart from Usyk, there aren't too many exciting names in heavyweight boxing at the moment, so rematch with Francis makes sense. It won't be for the belt though.
729  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 🥊 The UFC Info and Prediction Thread on: November 13, 2023, 05:11:50 PM
Without underestimating Miocic, but I think a fight between Jon Jones and Miocic will be unbalanced. Even though Jones is the GOAT in LHW and Miocic is the GOAT in HW, for me this is no longer a GOAT vs GOAT fight. Jones may still be in his prime, but the fact we should know is that Miocic is almost 42 years old and that is a very old age for a fighter at the highest level in MMA. His speed and reactions were no longer the same as before. Especially with the brutal knockout when fighting with Ngannou. So if the fight does happen I think it will only add to Jones' good record in the UFC before finally deciding to retire.

We all know that. I like Stipe, but he's effectively retired and just coming back for his goodbye big-money fight. Jones wants to fight him also for the money and to seal his legacy as the best pound-for-pound fighter, but speaking about sport challenge - Aspinall is much more dangerous.
It would be a shame if Jones Vs Aspinall never happens, there aren't many heavyweights that would be good match for Tom, maybe Almeida could cause him some trouble with his jiu-jitsu but other than that, there's nobody on a similar level.

But Alex was in a perfect position to land even more punches. Before falling to ground, Jiri already ate bunch of elbows and hammer fists. Ref did his job perfectly imho. I dont think that Jiri would do much on the ground; besides Pereira was in full mount.

Yeah, but those kind of elbows/hammers are not usually very powerful and have no KO power. Jiri did fall on his back but was not out and had his hands up, all he needed to do is to hug Alex or grab his head to buy himself enough time to recover. But if Prochazka himself agrees with the decision, then I'm happy to accept it.
730  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 🥊 The UFC Info and Prediction Thread on: November 12, 2023, 11:37:37 PM
Tom Aspinall was the surprise as i heard he was not training for this fight because of an injury and placed the bet on Sergei Pavlovich but fast hands always wins in the Heavyweight division.

Alex Pereira is a beast, striking legend and if you think that you can defeat him with striking he will showcase how elite performs. Two division champion in a single calendar year which is crazy and his post fight speech about Adesanya inspiring him to sign with the UFC when he was working in a bar in Brazil after his Kickboxing career is a stuff of legend .

Huge win for Aspinall, he proved beyond any doubt that he deserves that belt. He might be here for a long reign. I just hope that Jon Jones will not retire after fighting Stipe and will face Tom eventually.
To be fair, I expected Aspinall to try to take it to the ground, but instead, he did to Pavlo what Pavlo had done to everyone else, which is even better. It's not a coincidence that Tom holds the shortest average fight-time in UFC history.

As for Alex, I think that stoppage was a bit premature, the ref could give it an extra second or 2. But he did very well with those leg kicks and of course with that right-left counter. Prochazka did manage to catch him a few times and he was the more aggressive one though. I hope Jiri will bounce back.
731  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How Would you Like Your Pension Paid in Bitcoin? on: November 11, 2023, 11:12:08 PM
I don't think the company will want to follow what you want to happen either. Then I have not seen any company in this era, even before no one has done such a thing that a company paid their employees via Bitcoin.

In the past, we've seen some companies paying their employees (part of) their salaries in bitcoins (I think BitPay was one of them). But for the purpose of pension schemes, all you really need is a pension fund that lets you choose instruments you want to invest in and a reliable BTC spot ETF.

So, if you receive your pension, you should exchange it for bitcoin if you also want to hold it long-term, and this is the best way to at least somehow get a profit from bitcoin.

In most countries, you won't be able to freely access your pension fund money and withdraw it to invest in something else (they would be pointless if you could). Those would usually be restricted e.g. until you reach a certain age.
732  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Tyson Fury vs Francis Ngannou Boxing October 28 on: November 11, 2023, 10:56:11 PM
Maybe I saw different interview, but in mine Fury told that due to there were no videos of Ngannou real boxing fights, they did not know what to expect. All the knew Ngannou has speed and power. Not much to build tactics on. Well, if on October 28 we saw prepared Fury, who fully understood what to expect from Ngannou, then no doubt he would have huge troubles against Usyk. My offer if Fury should have a rematch was more addressed to those who say that Ngannou won Cheesy But in general I would love to see fight against Usyk, then against Ngannou.

I was referring to this interview: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YTOFDVNzMM0 in which he said both, that he came prepared and didn't underestimate Francis, and also said what you've mentioned, that they had no clue how good or bad Francis was in boxing.
Nevertheless, if a man who had no previous boxing fight just casually knocks down the lineal champion and was close to winning the fight - this puts a dent in boxing as a sport and Fury definitely has something to prove here. It's in everyone's interest to see Fury getting the job done right.

Obviously, if I had to choose between Fury Vs Usyk and Fury Vs Ngannou 2, I'd choose Usyk, but there's no reason we can't have both of those fights (Usyk first, Ngannou later).
733  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 🥊 The UFC Info and Prediction Thread on: November 11, 2023, 10:40:04 PM
I really doubt that they will neglect the Striking over wrestling because Alex Pereira has an advantage on the stand-up and his knockout power is surreal for me they will not neglect the striking or stand-up but they will surely focus on Pereira's takedown defense but I doubt Pereira will be focusing on learning the wrestling,

That's the point. They both have limited time to prepare. If Pereira's team expects Prochazka to try to take the fight to the ground and they spend say 50% time on striking and 50% on the ground game and takedown defense then, if Prochazka actually focuses almost entirely on striking - we might see Pereira getting outstriked by Jiri. At this level, differences in striking skills are not that big, and it's easier for Jiri to analyse Pereira than vice versa.

My picks for main events: Prochazka and Aspinall to win their fights.

Only a few hours away...
734  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Tyson Fury vs Francis Ngannou Boxing October 28 on: November 09, 2023, 06:35:16 PM
What a hot discussion here Grin Do you think we need a rematch? Why not make another poll? Even though Fury won in a split decision, I dont think there should be a rematch. The problem was not because Ngannou is so good and can fight with champions on equal level, but simply because Fury underestimated him. If they would have a rematch I dont think that Fury is going to be so passive and slow. Because in that fight he did not show any footwork and tactics. He was rather straightforward. There were no tricks from him. He was only better at talking before the fight.

I agree that we could use a new poll, but I disagree that there shouldn't be a rematch. So the only argument is that we can assume that Fury underestimated Francis and he would surely destroy him in a rematch? By that logic, why do we have any fights at all, why not just make assumptions on who would defeat who  Grin
Fury himself admitted that he came properly prepared and did not underestimate Ngannou's skills, so there's no reason not to believe him.
He will fight with Usyk anyway, so there's no need he can't fight Francis again after that. I think the exceptionally good performance of Francis put a dent in entire boxing as a sport, so it's in everyone's interest to have Fury proving to the world that he can do better than the first time around.
735  Economy / Economics / Re: AI will put an end to work, says Elon Musk on: November 09, 2023, 06:12:59 PM
It is true as Elon musk has said it artificial intelligence will put an end to work but not in the entirety of it. AI will not take over the jobs of astronauts working at space x neither will AI take over the jobs of the engineers whose work is to ensure that the machines are functioning at its optimal to assemble battery parts at Tesla. I also will not take over the jobs of people working at X, the social media company. What a I will do instead is that we would see better results output we would see efficiency we will see organizations meeting their key performance indicators as a result of these super human computers without have been utilised in their places of work.

Can you actually produce any logical argument on why all the jobs you mentioned can't be automated? What is it that humans can do that is impossible to be made by AI/robots?
So far this thread is full of wishful thinking and empty phrases with no real substance.
736  Economy / Economics / Re: AI will put an end to work, says Elon Musk on: November 09, 2023, 04:32:06 PM
I agree, people are over-exaggerating the power of AI when its power depends entirely on us humans. If we don't provide it with data, it will just be a pile of useless scrap metal, so there will be no way AI or robots can replace humans in all fields or even control the human world.

AI is created to help and bring convenience to humans, it is not created to replace or destroy humanity, so we should stop making exaggerated assumptions about AI.

If people directly involved in developing AI tell you it's a potential huge threat, than maybe you should take it seriously.
What makes an AI an AI is the ability to learn and expand on it's own, and it could do it exponentially. AI is not just a database that filters out results according to a prompt. And no, it's not always created with the best intentions in mind, it could very well also be used to gain geopolitical advantage of one country over others.
From materialistic point of view, there's nothing special about humans. We are just a biological robots that could be replaced by something better, more efficient and designed for a special purpose.
737  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2023-11-08] Motley Fool - This 1 Catalyst Could Send Bitcoin Soaring Back to... on: November 09, 2023, 04:18:34 PM
"What makes this year's boom so remarkable is that it is not being driven by retail investors. "

Hopefully the smart retail investors are already well positioned for this.  Who knows though.  Plenty of peoplehad the knowledge and opportunity to get involved in bitcoin but few actually did anything and then end up regretting it.

That's because the "average joes" are not investors. Everyone who has been into Bitcoin for a while knows about market cycles and that we are ripe for the start of another bull-run soon. But an average person wouldn't even be thinking about crypto at all, until media start reporting on huge price movement, at that point they'd slowly start considering getting into it, just to finally buy when the market gets overheated.
People shouldn't really be putting any money into things they don't understand.
Lets see how how the market takeover by the institutional investors will pan out.
738  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 🥊 The UFC Info and Prediction Thread on: November 09, 2023, 04:10:42 PM
but because Alex Pereira was training with Glover Texeira so for sure his takedown defense could get him far and beyond

That might be a bit of a trap for Pereira. Everyone assumes he's superior to Jiri in a stand up, but if most of his training camp is focused on takedown defence and improving his ground game, he might neglect the striking part and could get out-striked by Jiri. And it's not like Prochazka is lacking in the striking department, if Pereira in the top form is better than him, it's only by a small margin.
But yeah, anything is possible in this fight. Who knows, maybe Alex will be the one looking for a takedown, as he did in the first fight against Adesanya.
739  Bitcoin / Press / [2023-11-08] Motley Fool - This 1 Catalyst Could Send Bitcoin Soaring Back to... on: November 08, 2023, 11:21:44 PM
Not really a mainstream press, but quite an interesting read from a few days ago.
If I'm not mistaken, The Motley Fool were strongly anti-Bitcoin in its earlier days (unless I'm confusing them with some other news portal), so it's good to see the shift in sentiment.

This 1 Catalyst Could Send Bitcoin Soaring Back to Its All-Time High of $69,000

https://www.fool.com/investing/2023/11/08/this-1-catalyst-could-send-bitcoin-soaring/

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Institutional investors are suddenly very bullish on Bitcoin, and this change in sentiment could send Bitcoin soaring even higher into 2024.
There's a good reason why Bitcoin (BTC 1.00%) has earned a reputation as a tremendously volatile asset. It typically moves in dramatic boom-and-bust cycles, sometimes without any apparent rhyme or reason. After a huge "bust" year in 2022, when it lost 65% of its value, Bitcoin has entered a new "boom" phase and is up more than 110% for the year.

What makes this year's boom so remarkable is that it is not being driven by retail investors. Instead, the driving catalyst for this year's rally appears to be large institutional investors, many of whom are embracing Bitcoin for the first time. And that is leading to some tremendously bullish predictions about where Bitcoin could be headed next, including a potential rally back to its all-time high of $69,000.
740  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Tyson Fury vs Francis Ngannou Boxing October 28 on: November 08, 2023, 11:12:24 PM
Yep, i got the point. In general, I initially understood this, but this does not mean that I agree with it so wanted to discuss it. For me this is illogical and opens up scope for manipulation. It would be strange if in football the score in the first half was 3-0 and the score in the second half was 0-1 and the final score was the same, but in boxing this is possible. And I also know that all judges interpret body blows differently, not all consider them to be “real” blows.

Yes, there's a lot of room for manipulation and we've seen some outrageous decisions in the past, but this system is still best than any other.
As for boxing and football, they are hardly comparable, as I mentioned before, landing a punch just for the sake of it should not be the goal. Punches must be effective and cause damage.


Recent news about Ngannou, apparently he rejected an offer to fight Anthony Joshua in December and would rather sit out and wait for a rematch with Fury. I was surprised at first but I kind of understand that. Fury is very likely to accept the rematch after fighting Usyk, and it's guaranteed to be a big money fight (especially if Fury manages to win with Usyk and unify the belts). But if Ngannou was to accept Joshua fight (likely for much less money) and if he was dominated or KOed, the chances of rematch with Fury would get much slimmer.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/24674760/francis-ngannou-anthony-joshua-fight-december-ufc-next-opponent/
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