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3821  Economy / Securities / Re: [IPVO] [Multiple Exchanges] Neo & Bee - LMB Holdings on: October 23, 2013, 06:48:14 PM
Cryptocyprus and TAT, what are you working on those days? In pre-IPO stage you were much more active here. You must be very busy.
Either something really big or nothing!
3822  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Marketplace (Altcoins) / Re: MasterCoin Buyer/Seller Thread on: October 23, 2013, 06:28:37 PM
Guys, I'm really honoured by the trust you have in me but I'll have to pass on this. Truth is that I just don't have the time to run this.
Handling the order book and escrows is more than enough for me at the moment. Like many others I do have a full time job outside the Mastercoin world as well ...

I kinda thought so Smiley

Like I said before, I have 30 MSC and I have some time this week to distribute it. I don't think I should necessarily run the campaign but I'd be willing to contribute to it. Do you want to run it? Or are you just trying to keep me from running it?

Luckybit, if you want to take a shot at this, you'll have to learn how to make MSC transactions, follow rules set out in advance, and clear payouts with me in advance before you make them.

You'll also have to promise to be nice to everyone, no matter how hard that is. You can't go around flaming people you disagree with like HammerFist does Smiley


JR - that ninja guy maybe can do this, ripper234

I already know what he would say. He's busier than anybody.

I could run a giveaway in my twitter account and FB group.

I am sure some people would be interested.

I don't need to actually manage the funds, if someone is attributed with this task I could pass him the details.

Also I need guidance on how I should handle these data - maybe some will not want to be public and that will bring the verification issue.

Any ideas?
3823  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: ProtoShares Bounty - 30 BTC Start Mining BitShares in November! on: October 23, 2013, 06:14:36 PM
Second one looks good, keep' em coming!  Roll Eyes
3824  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Marketplace (Altcoins) / Re: MasterCoin Buyer/Seller Thread on: October 23, 2013, 06:11:19 PM
JR - that ninja guy maybe can do this, ripper234
3825  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Marketplace (Altcoins) / Re: MasterCoin Buyer/Seller Thread on: October 23, 2013, 05:36:09 PM
I vote for Maxmint handling the giveaway!

And his must hire an assistant for the escrow and start charging standard fees.
3826  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Marketplace (Altcoins) / Re: MasterCoin Buyer/Seller Thread on: October 23, 2013, 03:02:36 PM
I'm just trying to cover up my litecoin losses  Cry
What happened to litecoin?  Is that story finished?
Blood on the floor - they should have known better!
I had repeatedly warned my friends investing in it that from the moment Karpeles involved his name with this coin the massacre was inevitable.

I f@ckin hate this psychofat boy he almost killed BTC 3 times and maybe killed LTC...
3827  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Nxt :: descendant of Bitcoin on: October 23, 2013, 01:08:43 PM
So all the scared emunie trolls are here  Roll Eyes

All?? lol  I was merely pointing out that $1500 to $2m in 6 months in such a saturated alt-coin marketplace ain't going to happen, not in that timeframe without bringing some serious minerals to the table.

 Huh at this place sometimes, you guys flame the hell out of stuff that is only marginally far-fetched, yet jump in the corner of something that is total absurdity.

Plus, scared?? Did you not read what we are packing?  Roll Eyes
Hell I buy almost any coin, yours too for sure  Cool

I am in a troll mood/mode don't take me very seriously  Tongue
3828  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Nxt :: descendant of Bitcoin on: October 23, 2013, 12:54:43 PM
So all the scared emunie trolls are here  Roll Eyes
3829  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Marketplace (Altcoins) / Re: MasterCoin Buyer/Seller Thread on: October 23, 2013, 10:56:25 AM
I added a very simple price chart to the order book:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0ApGPLGUd5ZCzdHFxbnhHQjBDSDVKamY5UHlWdkNMNWc#gid=1

Please note that this only includes trades that I escrowed.
I know this is not very sophisticated, but it helps identifying a trend.
You are da man!
3830  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Marketplace (Altcoins) / Re: MasterCoin Buyer/Seller Thread on: October 23, 2013, 10:55:02 AM
there have been sent approx. 5000 btc to the Exodus address, each equals 100 MSC + average %20 bonus which should equal to 600K MSC.
To this you can add the future 10% that will be added gradually which will be finally about 660K MSC (which shall be less since 60% of bitcoins arrived in the last week that only had 10% bonus reward)
May you explain us how did you arrive to 50M MSC number???
Also where did you buy your logic from!?
5000*100=500K my mistake!!

So it would be 660K all, thanks for that!

So my calculations were far off, nevermind! I tried to base them on the total numbers of MSC vs that of BTC...

EDIT: MSC would be around 7.5 times less than BTC hmmm...

Now you see where I got my 2 BTC per Mastercoin price from. I calculated the total number of Mastercoins which will ever exist against the total number of Bitcoins. I also considered factors such as the chance of Bitcoins being confiscated. I think Bitcoins will be confiscated far more often than Mastercoins. There are unknown variables of course and this is still the speculation phase. Until we have a working exchange and until we see progress on the protocol itself the price I have in the sell order is based on what I believe Mastercoin will be worth just prior to a completed decentralized exchange. I'd be willing to sell for a range between 1.5 and 2 BTC per Mastercoin. Any less and I'll just wait until it the decentralized exchange is working.
Just a suggestion to MSC holders. There is no benefit of pumping the price at this point when the price is based on pure speculation and future hopes. Actually selling MSC at a fair price will increase the amount of people involved in the  Mastercoin ecosystem and benefits the project much more.
True. I had many offers in the 0.12-0.13 range but I decided to sell on 0.1 instead!
We have to see more long term - we need many people in this in no bubble prices..

Mastercoins are divisible so we can sell cheaper if we sell in smaller portions of 0.1 for instance. I don't think there will be a problem with demand if it works. I do agree right now it's in demand because a lot of people need a decentralized exchange, and a lot of people are looking at factors like the amount of development/contest resources, the level of marketing (the fact that Mastercoin has websites already says a lot about it), the particular people involved with it and their level of talent, all of that goes into setting the price.

But the value isn't the same as the price. Right now it's got no value yet because we cannot do anything with it so the price is based on a prediction of what we expect the value to be once completed. We are basically buying at these prices because we believe in the developers and in JR to follow through and meet our expectations.

This thread is not for speculation, it is just for bid and ask placement, so please transfer your speculating games and thoughts to another one more related. Or perhaps you can open one new thread yourself and speak with people with the same morality over there!

After Mastercoin has value we will need a speculation thread. Right now it's too soon to create one. The time to create a speculation thread is when the first working Mastercoin client is released. Until we have a wallet which works, there is no way to predict the demand until we can figure out how many people are downloading that wallet.

The next thing to do would be to see what happens once we have a decentralized exchange with smart property. I think that will be the big coming out event.
Quick question - how the heck are MSC anonymous? In 2 words if you know (not to hijack here).
Can't understand it though I tried...
3831  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Marketplace (Altcoins) / Re: MasterCoin Buyer/Seller Thread on: October 23, 2013, 10:33:01 AM
Maxmint please add another offer in the order book:

75MSC for 0.5BTC each, total 37.5BTC

I am proceeding with resending the 25MSC to HammerFist.

Also give me a unique BTC address of yours to tip you!
3832  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Marketplace (Altcoins) / Re: MasterCoin Buyer/Seller Thread on: October 23, 2013, 09:06:15 AM
Just a suggestion to MSC holders. There is no benefit of pumping the price at this point when the price is based on pure speculation and future hopes. Actually selling MSC at a fair price will increase the amount of people involved in the  Mastercoin ecosystem and benefits the project much more.
True. I had many offers in the 0.12-0.13 range but I decided to sell on 0.1 instead!
We have to see more long term - we need many people in this in no bubble prices..
3833  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Nxt :: descendant of Bitcoin on: October 22, 2013, 09:04:42 PM
No, I'm not him Smiley

P.S.  Of course, I would say this in any case  Cheesy
Damn you Satoshi! Don't you trust BTC anymore??

PS: Panic SELL BTC now people  Tongue
3834  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Marketplace (Altcoins) / Re: MasterCoin Buyer/Seller Thread on: October 22, 2013, 08:22:50 PM
Probably when I send the funds in MY BTC address in order to prepare for the payment on the 3x0.00006btc payments the first transaction was not completed...
3835  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Nxt :: descendant of Bitcoin on: October 22, 2013, 08:13:27 PM
Now you are just bragging..

I would like to invest in this project as well, but I'm not yet convinced.

Maybe you SHOULD reveal your identity first. 

just imo..   Roll Eyes

Yeah, a little bit Smiley  I'm excited to see my dream is becoming real.  A month ago I had only an idea, now I've got people who believed me.  They are becoming Nxt adopters, they are developing services for Nxt, now I'm sure that this project won't fail.

Regarding my identity...  I will stay anonymous for the time being.
As long as you are not dacoinminster I think I am fine  Tongue Roll Eyes
3836  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Marketplace (Altcoins) / Re: MasterCoin Buyer/Seller Thread on: October 22, 2013, 08:09:21 PM
@dacoinminster any idea why my transaction is in Invalid status??

http://mastercoin-explorer.com/addresses/13FHqVZAmkmqW5zFUpqGMHFoGJffx5rqgf
3837  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Marketplace (Altcoins) / Re: MasterCoin Buyer/Seller Thread on: October 22, 2013, 07:47:48 PM
I think the 0.1 territory is pretty done today...
Kudos to all for reaching MSC value x10 the initial!!!  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

It's not even on a decentralized exchange yet so these are the early adopter stages. In a month when the distributed exchange is working expect 1:1.

It may be a good time to approach the issuers of securities and tell them to buy some MSC prior to the launch of that exchange.
Like NeoBee Wink
3838  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Marketplace (Altcoins) / Re: MasterCoin Buyer/Seller Thread on: October 22, 2013, 06:45:46 PM
I think the 0.1 territory is pretty done today...
Kudos to all for reaching MSC value x10 the initial!!!  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
3839  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Marketplace (Altcoins) / Re: MasterCoin Buyer/Seller Thread on: October 22, 2013, 05:55:34 PM
Can anyone tell me why the following transaction is in Invalid status?

http://mastercoin-explorer.com/addresses/13FHqVZAmkmqW5zFUpqGMHFoGJffx5rqgf

Not seen in masterchain: http://masterchain.info/Address.html?addr=13FHqVZAmkmqW5zFUpqGMHFoGJffx5rqgf&currency=MSC

I send 25MSC to HammerFist.

Maybe because the transactions in my Qt wallet (Step1 moving funds to the address I used as input to the Exodus address) were not 100% complete before I go to Step 2?

See https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=265488.msg2919863#msg2919863 for reference on Steps.
3840  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Marketplace (Altcoins) / Re: MasterCoin Buyer/Seller Thread on: October 22, 2013, 04:07:05 PM
I'll be offline for the rest of the day. Any changes to the order book or escrow requests will be filled tomorrow.
Also, I promised to provide a public trade history – I will do this, but I have to filter out private trades first.

We are currently in an active escrow deal, I send my funds to the BTC address.
Where are my mastercoins? How can you get offline without completing the deal?
He is not needed to complete the deal, I will finish it no worries...

EDIT: It takes time because I have to fund my Qt wallet from my Electrum client...
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