im not biased you dick head. i have orders with knc, xcrowd and bfl (still waiting)

can we just stop while we are ahead.

oh they dont exist, but im saying dont start comparing shit when its not out yet. asshole.

big talk from someone who doesnt even have a chip in hand.

I absolutely agree. I believe LC is still way undervalued, even in its still unproven state.

The only reason for me to be afraid to invest here would be if there was the possibility that they are complete liars, and the whole project nothing but a scam.
But if you followed the IPO, you know that they deliberately turned down holding it auction-style, which would have given them probably at least double the IPO money. That is pretty much the most anti-scam move they could have made, and gives me about 99.9% certainty that it's not a scam. If they are a scam, that would have been the most irrational and deceiving step I'd have ever seen in a scam.

And to see why they are undervalued, consider this:
Why for example is ActM valued at ~0.005 now, with 25 million shares, and LC at ~0.0025 with only 10 million shares? It's absolutely beyond me.
If you see them at the same level of uncertainty right now, LC should be at least at 0.01 already (since they have 2.5x less shares).
ActM has nothing in reach, the Avalon Clones are delayed and will very likely never see ROI. Buying them already was a bad investment by ActM.
The 28nm development... has it even started? If I understand correctly, they only have a not-even-official partnership with eASIC to start development on them. It will take a long time before anything comes of it.
LC on the other hand had their chips taped out before they even started the IPO. They have been developing since last year.
And now with Swede confirming that the chips will come and get hashing within the next few weeks, it really makes no sense to me that somehow, LC is still valued less than ActM by the market.
Can anyone help me understand what's the reason for this? Because I just don't see it.

I'm not saying all this to push the price or anything, just stating my completely honest opinion. I have no interest in a short-term push of the price, because I'm certain LC's success will do that on its own soon enough.
I'm balls deep invested in LC and I believe it might turn out to be the best investment I have made in my entire life, right next to getting invested in bitcoin in the first place.

It might be rewarding to stick through this and get the Bitfury chips on our products. That would result in a better hash rate correct?

Another reason why there should be a minimum age requirement for bitcointalk..

Glad to hear it!  Looking forward to receiving my K-64s and hearing about some new non-Avalon based product offerings...

KnC will ROI, HalfFast will not.

Active mining.... Btc garden also in the mix

Why do you exclude ActM out of curiosity?

I don't think that the people at cointerra are stupid as much as I guess they must have found all the investments they need from somewhere else, cuz I can't see them getting it here.

Yep, some crazy talk here, but in a world where a few posts can change the market, optimism is necessary to protect these securities. Personally I'm moving a big chunk into friedcat if Labcoin rises 5-10X. ASICMiner is the Coca Cola juggernaut here

The guy arguing is making wild assumptions about the KNCminer chip with few hard facts, so you can pretty much ignore the post and save your popcorn until both units are shipping. Then they can start to debate the technical merits.

So I was right up at post #22.  Son of a bitch; this really is the other side of the looking glass.

You know what?  This is all -and I don't mean just Hashfest- getting to be too much.  

It was fun, interesting to watch the arc of the hardware development, the love affair with KnC, basking in the limelight of the one eyed man in the land of the blind.  

It was amusing to watch the pure scams of the spring and early summer get exposed and trampled.

BCCcoin's work, and the community effort, the spontaneous generation of the cottage industry of Klondike assemblers, was a thing of beauty.  I was actually blindsided by BitSynCom too; I didn't see it coming, although, after the fact, it's so clear with 20-20 hindsight.

But now, I've had it with transparent bullshit.  I've had it with the pre-order model. I've had it with the lies of the promoters.  I've had it with the nonsense they try to rationalize after the fact.

And I've had it with the push-pull of empathy and scorn for the vast pool of ignorant prey animals who are actually people who have hopes and dreams.  

I have to let it go.

I'm still going to be around; Phinneas Gage's investigative work, and the audacity of BFL, are so fascinating I can't let that go.  But as far as Hashfast, cointerra, even KnC goes: as Rhett Butler said better than I could ever hope to do:  Frankly, my dear, I don't give a damn.