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4741  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: bitcoin and exponential growth on: March 21, 2013, 01:22:17 PM
@OP can you please embed the image in the forum? The firewall at my job blocks imgur..

Thank you in advance!
I would, but I don't know how... I'm sure it's really easy. Can anyone else provide please?
Damn...
4742  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: bitcoin and exponential growth on: March 21, 2013, 11:34:52 AM
@OP can you please embed the image in the forum? The firewall at my job blocks imgur..

Thank you in advance!
4743  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin bubble crash @ 100$ Summer of 2013? on: March 21, 2013, 11:23:31 AM
If history repeats itself Bitcoin might make a parabolic rally up in the sky and make an ATH at 100$ for a day and crash 80% in the summer of 2013.

Bitcoin crashed 95% summer of 2011 so I am generous when saying that 80% crash should be enough - and we will be back at 20$.

The early ASIC-miners got a huge profit now and it seems that they just hord everything they mine, so when they begin to sell the chain reaction will give us a bottom to levels before  the 2013-rally started.

What do you think?
Get back in your cave!
4744  Economy / Speculation / Re: Must... resist... urge... to sell... on: March 21, 2013, 10:37:31 AM
Sell just enough to take one year vacation somewhere without internet. Then reassess.
Great advice  Cheesy
4745  Economy / Speculation / Re: $70 today? on: March 21, 2013, 10:14:51 AM
If my calculations are correct, we will hit $70 in 3 hours time.

It will rise to around $71.8 before falling back down to $68.3.

It will then continue to rise again and stay above $70 in a more stable manner from mid-day tomorrow.
Can you elaborate some more on this please?
4746  Economy / Speculation / Re: Has some large dumping started on: March 20, 2013, 10:15:32 PM
Looking at the order book history through btccharts.com, it looks like that large buy order that was at $30 it's the money that's currently being used to buy up the price and fill in the bids at $60+.  As I said yesterday(?), the money on the bids side is getting exhausted now.  Probably won't be long before the dramatic and long term correction occurs.

Dude, please keep talking, it seems like every time you open your mouth the opposite happens!
keep it up for a couple of months and we'll see $500 in no time! Smiley
thank you thank you!


This has been the theme since BTC hit the $2 low.  He talks, we win. I love it.

I'll happily carry the burden of nagle.  This party is very probably close to being over.  Everyone should probably prepare for a depressing several years.
Dude u r a genius! Honestly..
4747  Economy / Speculation / Re: Is it a good idea to buy Bitcoin now at $29? on: March 20, 2013, 12:21:22 PM
Any opinions?
To buy or not to buy??
That is the question!..
4748  Economy / Securities / Re: [MPEx] List of issue available for shorting. on: March 20, 2013, 10:50:23 AM
Since up until this point there has not existed a way to short shares, and since the larger part of the community playing around on this forum is at best unqualified to deal in securities, it seems worthwhile to take the time and explain the matter in simple terms.

All price on a free market is created by the meeting of supply and demand. This price only reflects the real value of the underlying to the degree it is in fact obtained by unimpeded negotiation between the full supply side and the full demand side.

For instance, in a circumstance where a country institutes an import duty, the price of the good in that country will not reflect the real economic value of the good, because the fake inside price is created by the meeting of the full supply of the buy side (consumers inside the country) with a portion of the sell side (those suppliers which either are not foreign or are willing to pay the duty).

Securities are not actual physical objects. Their supply and demand does not reflect constraints of the physical world in the sense a ton of coal or a new-smelling car do. Their supply and demand reflects the opinions, beliefs and convictions of economical agents as to the future prospects of the underlying.

You might have heard the expression that on the short term the market is a voting machine, but on the long term it is a weighing machine. The voting part is the sort of superficial "civility" and smarmy group-think that happens on a regular basis on this forum as a result of the simple way all social-media works (aggregating groups with mistaken but similar views). The weighing part is only now starting to show, in part because the market wasn't really old enough for anything of the sort, in part because nobody (on WS) cared up until now.

In order for share prices to reflect actual share value, there must exist a means for actual demand to meet and negotiate with actual supply. The asymmetrical situation in which only buy orders are available (as it used to be the case in the days when GLBSE dominated the btc-securities market) provides the problem that while votes of confidence can be cast (X buys some shares) votes of disconfidence can not be cast (what's X to do, buy some shares so he can slam-sell them?).

This asymmetry constantly creates and inflates bubbles, which is the primary cause for the numerous defaults that are dotting the early history of GLBSE-driven bitcoin securities, and is incidentally not lost on malicious or simply stupid parties who readily and regularly claim that as a public company they are only accountable "to their investors" whenever mismanagement and other inefficiencies rear their ugly heads in public discussion.

What were the people supposed to do in order to show that SkepsiDyne isn't a well run, worthwhile entity? Keep their mouth shut and somehow deal with the losses, cause sure as hell there's not going to be any buyside market depth for an ill managed asset. What are people supposed to do when someone "sounds like they're doing poor/bad business but for the second time I have managed to increase profits before production has even began"? Keep their mouth shut and hope for the best, who knows, maybe.

This isn't how a market works. A market is not built on making each other feel cosy and warm and validated and important. A market works by putting your money where your mouth is, and for that to happen there must exist avenues for both sides of any argument to put money on the line. Short selling accomplishes the other half of this requirement: with it available naysayers have a ready and efficient way to voice their concerns in the only way that matters, economically, and in a most productive way at that. In a way that ultimately benefits everyone, the longs, the issuer, the observers, people on the fencelines trying to gauge if BTC is a scam or the currency of the future and so on.

Short selling is ultimately a tool, used for a specified purpose. Learn to use it and learn to love it because it's not going away.
Thanx!
4749  Economy / Economics / Re: Cyprus -> Bitcoin Will Go Super-High on: March 19, 2013, 07:36:44 PM
The proposal didn't go through the parliament of Cyprus.

Let's see what happens now.  Shocked
Euro(pean) collapse!

Warning: DUMP ALL you euros!!! (Maybe USD will follow)
4750  Economy / Speculation / Re: $60 on: March 19, 2013, 04:18:56 PM
This price movement is very hard to understand.  It was at such low volume for days and now its like a fire got lit up under its ass.
Cyprus and FinCEN.
http://www.infowars.com/banking-chief-calls-for-15-looting-of-italians-savings/

200$ here we come!
4751  Economy / Speculation / Bear hunting season opening! on: March 18, 2013, 10:04:05 PM
Where are all the bears hiding??

(Warning: Contains hunting)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=atV2HS0i-pU

 Grin
4752  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Cypriot bank deposits hit in €10bn bailout on: March 18, 2013, 09:11:35 PM
Lowering the German flag at the German embassy at Nikosia:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=6Sgax5EgKf4#!

"Thieves get out of Cyprus" is what they say..
4753  Economy / Economics / Re: Cyprus : Most excellent for Bitcoin on: March 17, 2013, 04:10:11 PM
Μπιτ κόιν. It's the same.
Their English knowledge is perfect most of the times - used to be a British colony.

Αδέρφια Κύπριοι πόσοι είστε εδώ μέσα??
4754  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is Satoshi Dead? on: March 15, 2013, 08:16:28 PM
We live in a simulation - the programmers run various scenarios to fix their own f@cked up economy. Satoshi is the name of the software house (like Microsoft or Google).

 Cool

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simulacron-3

A very very good book ! Old, but good !
A chance to spend the weekend reading... Roll Eyes
4755  Bitcoin / Meetups / Re: Athens Greece Bitcoin Meetup? on: March 15, 2013, 07:09:47 PM
Μένω Θεσσαλονίκη και είναι λίγο δύσκολο, αλλά ίσως και να μπορέσω!
4756  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is Satoshi Dead? on: March 15, 2013, 06:50:29 PM
We live in a simulation - the programmers run various scenarios to fix their own f@cked up economy. Satoshi is the name of the software house (like Microsoft or Google).

 Cool
4757  Economy / Speculation / Re: Do the Banks manipulate Bitcoin? on: March 15, 2013, 02:09:29 PM
If a bank wants to buy/sell/short (or whatever) bitcoins, how is it gonna justify these transactions to the regulators?
Beyond miners, bitcoin doesn't have regulators.

What do they need to justify and why?

Cool isn't it?
Damn English!  Tongue

I mean banks trying to hide 'money laundering' actions from the government and the like (tax offices). I know this is ridiculous to say though (banks being actually the government)!
4758  Economy / Speculation / Re: When will price break up past $50 ? on: March 15, 2013, 02:06:50 PM

Heres a 3 month chart plotted on log scale.



The charge towards $50 caused the price to bust out the top of the channel but the resistance we’ve encountered there since then has pushed us back down back into the channel again. The very bottom of the channel has been tested twice with brief spikes down which rebounded very strongly and very bullishly.

I feel that this resistance near $50 will hold perhaps as long as to the end of March but ultimately be breached and much higher prices are on the way. During the rest of this month, the price may fall down near the bottom of the channel again, currently near $40 but the relentless upwards pressure will soon have us above $50 anyway.
This!
4759  Economy / Speculation / Re: Do you think the rally is over now... or very soon? on: March 15, 2013, 01:40:45 PM

Yes it is possible the rally is over because we are near the top of a long term rising channel. However I personnally think the rally is not over yet, there could be a breakout past $50 in the near future and then much higher prices to come.

From my blog



I think we'll get t third attempt to breakout, which if it fails will rebound back strongly yet again, we'll breakthrough at some point in the near future.

AF I really liked your blog and posted your last entry in a fb group I am admin (Bitcoin Greece).

Keep up posting there I will cover you...
4760  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is Satoshi Dead? on: March 14, 2013, 10:03:21 PM
Chuck Norris kicked Satoshi in the ass to start mining for him back in the day...
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