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101  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What is that one reason that motivates you to invest in bitcoin even at ATH ? on: March 05, 2024, 01:43:28 PM
I think the reason why people investing in Bitcoin is to earn profit where some are afraid that they will miss the chance to earn profit. You can say that it is very much like FUD or FOMO that they also want to invest. If they really want to invest then they should have bought Bitcoin when it didn't reach the price of bitcoin today.
Yes, the main reason why people continue to invest even in ATH is due to FOMO, and they also believe that the price would continue to increase.
But nobody knows how high it could reach and how the price would move, it could continue to go up or it could go down and have a price correction.
102  Other / Archival / Re: Are investors investing in Bitcoin at ATH now are fools ? on: March 04, 2024, 11:58:24 PM
Are investors investing in Bitcoin at ATH now are fools ?  Is there chance of major correction from here as prices have already peaked now.
How could you tell that the price has already reached the highest that it could?
I believe that it would continue to fly higher, halving is near and more investor would surely come in.
We couldn't tell how high it would go or if it already reached the peaked because of the halving.
I know I am not the only one who thinks about it this way, and more of us believe that the halving would drive it even more higher than what it already reached in the past.
103  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: As a gambler do you have a potential winning amount limit? on: March 04, 2024, 08:20:21 PM
I have heard and read about people gambling because they had no source of income,  a job or they wanted to add gambling as part of their streams of income. Whatever your category the bottom line is that we all gamble to make money though some group claim it's mainly for fun. But who would want to be losing money all in the idea of catching fun!

There are gamblers that don't place their bet not until they have gotten a certain amount as their potential win. Some do this based on their financial challenge with the anticipation that just one win they may get on such amount is a life changer for them.

My main focus on this thread is in this question: as a gambler do you place your bet according to the weight of your financial need or you're always okay with whatever amount that comes out as potential win no matter how small amount?

I do set up a potential winning limit whenever I gamble, but at the same time I would also take the profit no matter how small or big it is if I somehow decided to end it.
I would just go with the flow when I gamble, if I feel like I already had enough even if I still haven't achieve the amount that I set then I would stop.
104  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: If I bet big I lose, but if I bet small I win on: March 04, 2024, 06:25:04 PM
I also feel the same before, but on my end I know that it is just the way it is I risk my money on it so there is a chance to lose.
It is just that we focus on profit and ignored the fact that we could lose no matter how much we put on the game.
The amount of our bet doesn't really matter, and be honest there are times that when you bet a huge amount and win this kind of things doesn't come up to your mind.
You would only think about it when you lose.
105  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Which player are you? on: March 04, 2024, 01:55:50 PM
I prefer games that I know right away if I would risk money on games or gamble.
I love crash games, mines and I also do some sports betting but only to the sports that I really watch (cause I know some sports but not really into it).
But I am open to new games that I would also enjoy, I tried slot games and other casino games but I don't really enjoy them as much as I enjoy crash and mines games.
106  Economy / Economics / Re: Saving don't make wealth on: March 02, 2024, 10:57:32 PM

  No matter how many bitcoin you hold you can still misuse the money, so we should understand the concept of Richness and Wealth.
 

So you consider holding Bitcoin as saving and want to invest the profits from Bitcoin into something else?

Saving is what you save in the fiat like you save $100 a month in your bank account and not utilizing the money on something else will make you poor because the value of fiat depreciates due to inflation and the actual purchasing power of $100 may worth $90 in the one-year time frame if the inflation rate hits 10%.

Bitcoin also comes under investment cause its value is volatile and I don't deny that you could invest the profits into something else because 'don't put all your eggs in one basket' rule can be applied to minimize the loss.
If you would just let your money sleep by saving it, why not let it grow by investing it?
Most of us see Bitcoin or crypto as an investment so if you are saving your money in Bitcoin, it would basically be seen as an investment for most of us.
And I do agree that no matter how many Bitcoin, crypto or assets you have if you misuse it, it would all just be drained.
We've seen so many successful person or wealthy person in the past who are now broke due to their lack of fund management.
Misuse of their wealth by spending too much on luxury items, drugs or vices, gambling and other forms of addiction.
107  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Losing at gambling on: March 02, 2024, 08:16:39 PM
When everything's going well, it's cool. But sometimes (often?) money problems lead to divorce. Suppose your spouse/husband gambles a lot, his or her loss/profit ratio is acceptable (so it's fine), but then one day he or she has bet it all and lost it all. You've got nothing left (and no savings either). What's your reaction? Has this ever happened to you?
The question here is why would you react only when it became a problem not when you could have prevent it from happening.
It was all good when your partner was earning from risking the money, you couldn't stop or say anything but when things go wrong you suddenly have the urge to do something about it?
If this was a real scenario then you only stayed because it was convenient for you, and you wanted to move out when things aren't favorable for you anymore.
You don't love the person, you only stayed cause you feel secured because your partner have the power to support you.
108  Economy / Economics / Re: keep pleasures without incomes aside and Chase after profits on: March 02, 2024, 06:37:49 PM
I am not financially stable yet, so I am very much grateful for the appreciative increments in the Bitcoin market (bull-run) on going, I decided to cancel our marriage anniversary celebration because I insighted that there is more to gain In my continues hodling while the markets skyrockets than selling off my hodled coins just for ceremonial pleasures which can not profer me financial returns other than consuming the ones saved.
Now, my wife seized not to understand what my logical points about this are because she is not the one providing for the family.
As a woman she is, I clearly understood that they are attracted to pleasures especially on activities that attracts public attentions. These species of humans (women) fails to understand that it is money that afford those pleasury materials and activities they craves for which one has to utilize himself logically in economical situations so as to create financial balanced system before chasing after those financial consuming activities without the potentials of yielding incomes.

I could understand it if it is going out with friends spending money on unnecessary things for pleasure or fun, but celebrating occasions.
No even if I only have small amount of money I would spend it on special occasion specially with my love ones to make the event more meaningful for them.
What's the point of your earning if you couldn't even celebrate a special day with them?
You could always earn money, but the memories that you could create on such occasion would only happen ones, it is not always about the income life is not just about money and you should also know it since you already have found your partner for a lifetime that you believe.
109  Economy / Economics / Re: What is The Negative Effect of Inflation on Household Savings? on: March 02, 2024, 04:15:40 PM
Holding or saving your Fiat in your bank isn't really great idea at all due to inflation, the price that you would save now would decrease over time due to inflation.
The amount of things you could buy with your money right now would be different in the future, for example something that cost $1 right now could be $2 or more in the future.
So for those who are planning to just let their money sleep in their bank or continue to hold it, why not try to invest it to let your money earn for you while you let it sleep.
110  Economy / Economics / Re: Save money today so money would save you tomorrow. on: March 02, 2024, 01:34:35 PM
I wasn't really a saving type, but lately looking at the current situation of things in my country, how costly things have gotten, once money enters your account or wallet, you'll be suprised of how you won't be sure of how it vanished, not to talk of having a tangible reason of what you did with the money. So recently looking at how people cry for money and personally looking at how I needed money I decided to start splitting the little allowance I get, saving one part and using the other, I won’t really say that it has made me a billionaire or that I no longer lack money but at least I have cash somewhere that I could call my own and fall back to in cause of emergency.
    To cut the story short, I’m advising mostly the young people of our generation to save, avoid unnecessary spendings and save even if it’s so little, cause you might find yourself in a situation tomorrow and you wouldn’t want to call home or ask for help, cause you have a second choice, that means you are literally getting yourself out of a problem. So please it’s not too late to stop spending on things that doesn’t really matter, so basically the money you saved today could literally save you tomorrow.
Same here, I don't really care much about money before I would spend it how I want after paying all of what is needed to be paid, and setting the amount that I need to survive till my next salary comes.
But seeing some of the people I am close to or know buying real estate and settling down, that is when I started to save and invest avoid unnecessary expenses like going out and ordering food when I could just cook for myself.
It is hard to start over when you have nothing at all, been there done that and don't want to experience it again so I am going to save as much as I could so that money that I am saving today would save me in the future when I really need it.
111  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Mom won 50,000$ in Lottery on: March 01, 2024, 09:25:26 PM
The feeling of knowing that you won and the amount is so much more than what you expected, it is something that would really surprise anyone.
Honestly I think mom who won those kind of prizes on lottery or draw outs would really spend their winnings wisely to their family needs.
112  Other / Off-topic / Re: Does having children have an influence on gambling habits? on: March 01, 2024, 06:35:59 PM
When you have one or more children, you have heavy responsibilities. Sometimes you're on a tight budget. Can being a parent change our playing habits? Are losses even harder to bear when you're in charge of a family? What are your experiences in this area?
Yes having a family would affect it, specially if you really care about them.
Most of the time you would only think about what they need and what could make them happy, so gambling or personal happiness wouldn't be your priority.
I would rather spend money on my child than to gamble or risk it, that is what I think most of the time when I am being tempted to gamble.
I would also think that the amount I would gamble could be used for my child to buy what they need.
113  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling for fun and not a way of making money on: February 29, 2024, 07:03:27 PM
There are gamblers who gamble for fun, they don't really care about the profit or loss it is their way to enjoy their time.
I think it is their way to have excitement or thrill while playing, we should know that playing without a risk to past time are boring, and we wouldn't take the game seriously if there is no risk.
114  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: When you are not to gamble. on: February 29, 2024, 01:56:29 PM
Gambling can be fun and also become a serious problem if not done appropriately. Alot of gambler get themselves into problem because they gamble anyhow and anytime. There are some times you should take a break in gambling so that you won't become an addict or give yourself problem. Time you shouldn't gamble includes:

👉👉when you are in need of money urgently
Some people gamble the most when they are in need of urgent money. They use the little in their account to gamble believe they can double the money in no time through gambling to do what they want to do. This most times go wrong making them to lose the little they should have save for that purpose

👉👉To regain back your loses
Pursuing loses in gambling make you lose more. So it better to have a break when you have lose alot. That period may not be your own lucky time to win. Taking a break can help you to avoid being addicted and also save you from losing more.

👉👉Under pressure or frustration
Gambling under pressure or frustration may make you go beyond your plan. It can also make you to make wrong decision from your bet. So it's better to do away with gambling during this period.

CONCLUSION
Gambling should be fun, it's better to stay away when it has started to become a problem.
When you're not in the right state of mind (drunk or high for any reason).
When you just want to show off with your friends or people around you.
When you don't even have enough money to support or pay for your needs.
115  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How Do You See Losing Your Weekly Payment to The Casino on: February 28, 2024, 06:37:01 PM
Sorry guys I have to make this thread self-moderated to keep spam off from making garbage comments on this thread.

Now my experience today,  so I got my weekly signature payment only stake account few hours ago,  and for some reason, I decided to gamble with it and bet on the Newcastle vs Blackburn rovers and with a draw for the games I chose which gave me an 2.5 odds at the time of staking the bet,  but at the end,  the,  Newcastle first made the first goals score making the match to stand at 1:0 at that point,  I made used of the available cash out which was almost a 60% lose from my initial bet amount,  but then I thought it better than losing all at the end.

Now I staked another bet with my remaining available balance and also I lost the bet and that brought my balance back to zero which means I lost all the money paid to me back to the stake casino, this reality triggered up this question in me.

How do you see losing your payment to the casino?

Do you see losing your payment back to the casino as your own form of indirect support for the project?

Do you think that I already have a bad gambling mindset thinking that by engaging in one or two bets or games I am supporting the project I promote?



This topic is for general discussions,  but I would like to hear and read what those who are promoting casinos/book markers that pay them directly into their casino accounts.


Well if you already have other source of income, and the earning from your signature campaign is just for extra pocket money I don't see any problem with it.
I have done it countless times before the money that I would earn on weekly campaign would be used to have fun or enjoy it is either I spend it on gambling or have fun with my friends drinking.
Of course it would depend on the situation if my initial source of income is enough for all the necessary things that I need to pay and the money that I earn on campaign is just a pocket money.
116  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Rich or poor gambler, who should risk more? on: February 28, 2024, 01:49:17 PM
Gambling an activity for fun also has the chance to turn someone's fortune. Calculated risk when taken in gambling can be the way to big wins from gambling. Who do you think should take more risk in gambling? The rich gambler or the gambler who is not yet rich. If a rich gambler takes risks in gambling, they are risking losing money and becoming poor from gambling, or getting richer, when a gambler who is not yet rich gambles, they can also get poorer or richer, so the gambler who should take the risk should be the gambler who can handle the dangers of the risk like losing too. When a rich gambler loses from taking a risk, there is a better chance of them being in a position to manage with the losses, than someone struggling financially who a big loss will really affect. So, I am confused after asking myself this question and answering it, does this mean a poor gambler should continue to play it safe in gambling? With no risk, how can a poor gambler change their fortune in gambling?
Why does poor need to relay on gambling to change their fortune?
Both should know how to control their fund, they don't need to increase the amount that they are risking, they should know that they should only risk the amount that they could afford to lose.
Why would a rich person gamble or risk what they have to the point of being poor, and why does the poor need to gamble if they don't have enough to support or pay for their bills and food?
117  Other / Off-topic / Re: Making cool money online, with your phone. on: February 28, 2024, 01:41:29 AM
As it stands now, phone are used to make cool money online,most persons has pHones but they don't know how to make money with it, most persons focus purely in social media, thereby wasting their time and resources in the form of data and airtime,
While some sit at the comfort of their house and make real cash online with their phones,
Making money with your phone is directly making you CEO of Ur own, you do everything at your own pace and time, no rushing you and no extras pressure.
I agree that most are not using their time on phone to earn but to enjoy their time, we all have different perspective.
They might not be earning while they are spending time on their phone due to any reason, but they might be doing it to enjoy their time or relax for awhile since they are stressed out on their work or other reason.
There are also some who are using their time to learn online so it isn't really a waste of time even if they aren't earning from it.
We couldn't say that they are wasting their time just because we know how to earn online, we couldn't really say that it is easy to earn online.
And making money with your phone doesn't really make you a CEO of your own, it just shows that you have the ability to earn online.
118  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What You will do in this situation? on: February 27, 2024, 01:44:30 PM
A few days ago, my house was being cleaned. Three people are cleaning the front and back yards of the house. One of them was playing slots and I saw him. Actually, I wanted to suggest he try sports betting because I often see the guy watching football matches and he does have knowledge about many teams. So I was wondering if I could introduce him to sports betting so he could use his ability to predict every game he knows about.

Besides that, I just feel that if he deposited $10 = IDR 150,000 into a gambling site just to play slots, he would probably suffer a complete loss. But if he can place bets on sports betting, there is a possibility of him winning some money on small bets. Wouldn't that be an advantage for him?

If you were in this situation, what would you do? Introduce him to sports betting or let him stick to playing slots. Yesterday, I just let it go but we still often meet at other activities.
I think that guy already knows sports betting since he is knowledgeable in sports, and if he is interested in it he would be doing it instead of online casino.
There are people who gambles for fun not purely for the profit, and I think this guy belongs to the ones who gamble for fun.
Besides if he is interested in sports betting he only needs to search for it in the internet and there would be tons of website for him to use.
119  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: While placing bet what comes your mind on: February 26, 2024, 11:18:04 PM
Yesterday was trying to place bet and during the process something in me keeps telling me to increase your wager do you know if you would hit something you never won before.. I was like is this how other people are being controlled by gambling or is it how it works? I said, no wonder some people gamble and finishes their allocation for the week or month. This can even lead someone to also go borrow if this feeling is not killed and stop, you can also see that this attributes in gambling addiction.

However, have you had this feeling while gambling before be it offline casino and online casinos?
Nope, never had that kind of feeling when I am placing bet,  but there are times that I would think that if I had bet a higher amount then I would have won much more.
There are also times that I would feel like I want to continue on gambling, but I also want to withdraw or stop and take profit.
The amount of money that I would bet depend on the game that I would play.
120  Economy / Gambling / Re: Crashino Crash Gambling, Crypto Casino and Sports Betting on: February 26, 2024, 09:26:19 PM
A fee for inactive account, that's the brand new way to fuck the customers  Grin

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7. Inactive Accounts

7.1. We will charge you a fee of €5 (or currency equivalent) per calendar month (Inactive Account Fee) if:

you have not logged into your Account or logged out from your Account, or used the Service, or made any bet in any section of the Service for twelve consecutive months or more (Account Activity);

and your Account is in credit.

The min withdrawal is $50... And if the user wins x10 of his deposit then he will be limited:

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9.6. In cases when your balance is at least 10 times larger than the total sum of your deposits, you will be limited to € 5,000 (or currency equivalent) for withdrawal per month. In other cases the maximum withdrawal amount is €10,000 per month, €5000 per week or €2500 per day.

Why do new casinos need to be so rude to the customers?, i mean, if the gambler wins big they will try to fuck him in any possible way, they will farm all his data and after that will limit the withdrawal amount, making him wait for weeks or months to be able to cash out the full amount. That isn't kind.
I don't also like such conditions, because there is no condition when I deposit a huge amount of money, then why wouldn't I be able to cash out a huge amount of win at once, when I hit the jackpot.

OP, you guys should know how to treat customers and make them free to withdraw their wins with no conditions, so that customers can have that confident on your casino, because to me what I check in a casino before I deposit is fast and easy withdrawal of funds, no matter how big it is. We have reputable casinos in this forum that allows unlimited amount of withdrawal.

For those who won't read their terms, for sure they will be surprised later on once they see their funds are getting low. And that because inactivity here is being charged by penalty. So if you are a player here and you have certain periods that you don't know when you will come back, better get out your funds first.

So what will happen if you have no funds left and you become inactive, how can they deduct the penalty from your 0 account? Because from their terms, they haven't mentioned anything about the closure of the account or other penalty once the remaining funds is less than €5. They just implied that they will get all the remaining funds if your account balance is less than €5.

Also, for those who got friends within that casino, and wanted to send or receive some funds, better remember this part from their ToS -

"4.3. You may not, in any manner, transfer funds between player accounts."

It is like you are prohibited to receive some tips from your online friends. I don't understand their reasoning behind this terms.


This is one of the reason why I like this forum, even if you are lazy to read their TOS forum members would help you with it by highlighting the important parts that we should consider before using new sites.
And this is also the reason why we should always pay attention to a websites TOS before using their system, so that we are aware of what we are agreeing on.
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