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I don't remember there being any other ToS, either anywhere on the site or for new users (?), the one that popped-up on bustabit and bustadice is the first one I ever saw.
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To co mamy teraz (wzrost z $3000) to już może być cena z uwzględnieniem przez większość halvingu. A do halvingu cały czas tyle samo nowych bitcoinów wpada w obieg.
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1. Indeed. However, having created this new mobile account I don't recall being made aware of any of the forum rules or even being asked to read them !
That's just a common practice, if you create an account somewhere, be it an online discussion forum, an email account, fb, whatever, and you start messaging a lot of strangers out of the blue trying to sell them something, even an idea, it won't take long before you find yourself rate limited or banned. |
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This is compared to the 30 day ban for the OP. Perhaps it's due to the differences in the amount of PMs sent. BitcoinFX has sent >100 PMs (probably within a short time frame?), Hhampuz claims to have sent no more than 4-5 per day or 50-60 per year. Or it could be that another admin or a global mod issued the other temp ban. |
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I don’t have data regarding ban lengths for PM spam but the ban length does seem somewhat harsh assuming this is a first time offense. I don’t think the OP would possibly personally profit from the PM, which is something that factors into this opinion. I don't think it matters much that OP is unlikely to derive profit from his activity, otherwise why not allow people PM spam with their friends' gofundme links. And if he sent people PMs related to the Gapcoin altcoin, he stands to potentially make a lot of money if he's buying them cheap or already has some since it's almost a dead altcoin, but he must popularize it a bit, so why not do it by spamming bitcointalk users. |
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Imagine someone said to you "Go take $100 out of that wallet that is lying there, use it to buy bitcoin, and send the bitcoin to my address. It's totally fine, that's definitely my wallet and my money, I just can't do it myself." Would you do it?
This is essentially what has happened. Someone has given you log in details to a third party's (or parties') account(s). You have logged in to the account of these innocent people, stolen their money, used it to buy bitcoin, and sent it to the scammer. If you are prosecuted for this, then your lawyer is right. The excuse of "Someone else told me to do it" isn't exactly going to stand up in court, even if you have proof of them telling you to do it.
I think what happened here is someone first transferred money to OP's bank account, and then OP used the money he received to buy bitcoins on an exchange. If he were to use a bank account belonging to the phished person, he would have trouble passing KYC. Not that it's huge difference for him, if his lawyers are saying he'll have to pay it back, that is probably the case. |
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I wouldn't leave the convince of my room just to make a transaction on an ATM when it can be done on any device in my room using p2p exchanges with less fees.
Then I don't think you're the target audience, if you exchange bitcoins for money or vice versa and use banks, PP, or other financial services your exposing yourself to everyone who has access to the records these companies are forced to keep. |
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Mistype, lols, I was trying to say 1000.
I haven't used one since quite a time, and by that time the yellow ones from GB had a limit of 5k PLN after which you had to scan the ID.. I have hard about the new shitcoinsclub atm's that have invaded all of eastern Europe with their no limits no id nothing but I tried to stay away from them, they are quite shaddy, their former exchange is almost dead, they have changed 2 times what company was responsible for the atms in Germany until they've gone back to the polish one...neah...I have a feeling they will get more attention than they wanted pretty soon.
Shitcoins.club is one of the two major BTC ATM networks in Poland, the other one is Flyingatom.com. Both work fine, have no KYC and a generous 60k PLN transaction limit, as long as you're not in business partnership with any of them I don't see why you should be worried. One of the people behind shitcoins.club is apparently involved in a cat and mouse game with Polish customs trying to nail him for illegal gambling operations but it's not really a concern for anyone uninvolved. |
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Can you actually buy bitcoin anonymously at any of these ATMs? How is that possible aside from feeding the machine cash? I didn't think any of these things operated that way, but then again I've never used one. I don't even know where the nearest one is to me. Here's a map of Bitcoin ATMs: https://coinatmradar.com/Yes, you can feed in the cash, often in bundles too. That's the anonymity, you stuff some bills in, tell it where to send your coins and if you're below a certain amount (depends on the country) they won't ask you for any documents. I know for certain that in the Czech Republic and Poland you can buy for under 100 euros (at least, no sure on the max) with no id.
In Poland none of these ATMs ever ask for IDs, and the maximum withdrawal is 60k PLN, or 13.7k EUR. Minimum transaction size is usually around 100 PLN or 23 EUR. Not sure about Czech Republic nowadays. |
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Miesięcznie czy Tygodniowo? Chyba tygodniowo, bo jak miesięcznie, to nie aplikuje do żadnej z nich  . Tygodniowo przy 40 postach. $80 na tydzień przy 40 postach jak wbijesz Legendary, choć nie wiem czy automatycznie się wbija na wyższy slot. |
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Nic nowego, od lat, jeśli nie od początku forum jest ten Easter egg, choć przy meritach i activity chyba go nie ma. I am now... leet. I think I will avoid posting for a while.
(Note to visitors from the future: Post count of 1337 is displayed as "leet").
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Let me ask you another question. If you buy gold coins from your salary, would you refuse to pay the applicable VAT/GST? And once you sell your coins later for fiat cash, would you again refuse to pay the capital gains tax? You can't do that, as there are laws specifying the requirement to pay taxes. The same with cryptocurrency. Now crypto is mostly being used as an investment asset, rather than as a currency. So you can't refuse to pay taxes.
Either there's VAT on the coins, it's included in the price, and the seller pays it he has a VAT-registered business (and later gets it back), or VAT doesn't apply/he's not selling as a business and there's no VAT. Capital gains tax or income tax might not apply, where I'm from I don't have to pay it if I hold onto coins for >6 months. |
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No such a thing that you're looking for. Best start an exchange in international waters and arrange meetings on the boat. Poorer countries even if they might not care for a while can be easily pressured by richer countries to restrict/ban BTC trading.
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The IRS are likely receiving similar information from a number of exchanges, and will continue to push harder and harder until all exchanges hand over all customer details. If you have ever completed KYC on any exchange, at some point in the future the IRS will likely find out your trading history.
That applies to foreign exchanges, too, if someone has any doubts. A lot of countries have treaties or similar agreements signed between them to share financial information for tax purposes, and a lot of people, except maybe those who live in the poorest 3rd world countries, may one day find out they have unpaid taxes to pay if they ever went through KYC. |
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Manager: ZweiNazwa kampanii: WOLF.BETJakie rangi: Sr., Hero, Legendary Ile do zarobienia/tydzień / ilość postów: od 0.0001 do 0.0002 BTC/post, min. 15 postów tyg., max. 40 będzie uznana. Dodatkowe informacje: min. 10 postów/tyg. w dziale Gambling, max. 5 postów/tyg. będzie uznanych w działach lokalnych, min. 100 znaków/post. Trzeba zmienić także awatar i pole tekstu osobistego. |
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Just to update that all has been resolved at the end.
A lot of KYC docs was required - more than any Exchange I have signed up before. But at the end, my faith was restored in Freewallet.org Keep in mind, as a wallet service they have no legal obligation to perform KYC since there is no money transmission occurring. Think about that -- why was more documentation required from you than on actual exchanges? Either Freewallet has received some horrible legal advice or this is a typical selective KYC scam. My money is on the latter. Just imagine how many people can't or won't complete this invasive KYC and end up forfeiting their funds. It's a good thing you made a thread here. Public reports are the best way to get services like this to respond. I hope you rethink your faith in Freewallet considering what they just put you through. Next time, use a real wallet like Electrum so this never happens again. Isn't Freewallet incorporated in the US? https://www.crunchbase.com/organization/freewalletAccording to FinCEN hosted/custodial wallets are money transmitters now, and have to comply with all the KYC BS. https://www.fincen.gov/sites/default/files/2019-05/FinCEN%20CVC%20Guidance%20FINAL.pdf |
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I'm from the Netherlands so I'm not allowed to use this service. Does this also apply to investing? According to the new ToS, yes it does: Continued use of the service implies consent to the new terms of service. For this purpose, remaining invested in the bankroll is considered use of the service. Does this mean I should withdraw all my funds? Is there any chance my account will be locked because I'm a Dutch resident?
It seems to me the chance is low, at least for now, quoting devans: KYC check is only necessary if I have a specific reason to believe that someone is prohibited from using bustabit, e.g. if they themselves claim they are underage in chat. It's worth noting that due to the prevalence of VPNs, accessing bustabit from an IP address in a prohibited jurisdiction is not sufficient to trigger a KYC check. If a user refuses or fails a KYC check we may restrict their account from further using the site, i.e. betting, investing and chatting, and demand that they withdraw their funds and refrain from using bustabit going forwards. Outside of extreme edge cases like being compelled to by a court order, bustabit will never prevent users from accessing their funds. And again from the ToS: The operator not insisting on one of his rights granted by these terms of service in one or more specific instances shall not preempt the operator from making use of this right in the future They're a legal business with a gambling license and unfortunately there are certain requirements imposed on them if they want to keep the license. I think these requirements aren't new but they might not have previously been enforced by the licensing authority. |
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He can also sell via Paxful or Localbitcoins in exchange for PP or something similar (and get scammed if he's a newbie) or as I already wrote above, find a Bitcoin ATM and use that.
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Apis N.V. was formally incorporated in January 2019. Whether and to what extent the GDPR applies to bustabit is still unclear. My understanding is that GDPR is compulsory on websites that serve residents of the European Union but enforcing that is another matter. I think it's more complicated than that, bustabit might quailfy for an exemption/exception, they don't store much data to begin with and (I think) they aren't targeting nationals of any specific EU/EEA countries. But IANAL, maybe EU courts must make enough rulings for things to clarify. |
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