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1121  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Future of Crypto for Indians? on: September 15, 2018, 05:07:37 AM
The real question is, if cryptocurrencies and all actions related to them (spending, trading, investing, mining, etc.) were banned, will Indians still risk their lives for them? In my opinion, using a proxy will not make them anonymous enough to do that safely.

Some will leave country and some will use p2p cash trading.

This bank ban plan will probably back fire to governments. Previously, all traders used to trade on legalized exchanges — so government could track but now it has shot itself in foot.

exactly. this is the same scenario as I was talking about back when China closed down their exchanges. the traders didn't stop because of it, they simply moved their funds elsewhere. the day they closed Chinese exchanges we clearly saw a huge volume spike which stayed up until today in other exchanges including localbitcoins, Japanese and Korean exchanges mainly but also other exchanges too.
the same is happening in India, people simply moved to P2P trading. and now the government has no idea who is doing what and how much.
1122  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: A Girl Survived with 0.21 Bitcoins for 21 Days, how do you think of it? on: September 15, 2018, 04:56:49 AM
you do realize that this was just a story, right? and just like any story it needed twists and turns. if  the protagonist in the story has no challenges and just lives a regular life with no obstacles then the story would be boring! hence the "Hypoglycemia" twist in the story and the hospitalization afterwards. Wink
1123  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin dominance record on: September 15, 2018, 04:44:05 AM
your mistake is that you are using market cap ratio and calling it dominance. it is like picking up an apple and calling it an orange! just because coinmarketcap.com is dumb enough to use the word "dominance" it doesn't mean it is correct. in fact dominance in a market has nothing to do with market cap specially when it comes to cryptocurrencies where 1 coin can create billions of tokens out of thin air and have billions of dollars worth of market cap and have a bigger "ratio". and none of that billions of tokens even have to enter circulation for it to have that market cap.

I see your point, but you're talking about 'market dominance' in a classic meaning, related to measuring companies' market dominance - such is simply not applicable to cryptos (as there's no revenue involved). "Dominance" is also a word on its own and can be freely used. It's pretty obvious and clear to everyone that CMC's version relates to market cap dominance only. I see no problem here.

I also tend to agree with you, I always thought it was pretty clear that the word dominance was just used to describe the coin with highest total market capitalization, according to the metrics found on coinmarketcap.com.

Market dominance is obviously something completely different, but that's a totally different context to begin with.

but it is all about the context that the term "dominance" is being used in. people aren't just using the term to compare market capitalizations, they are using the term "dominance" to say bitcoin is losing its ground and being replaced by an altcoin. specifically if you look at the usage of it in first cases when it all started you can see it is mostly used when people want to advertise some altcoin that was getting pumped by that time.

besides when you compare market capitalizations you should also consider that fact that market cap of a lot of altcoins is FAKE because their coins are not in circulation. for instance the coins with premine that have not yet released the coins by dumping them on exchanges. if they do it the price of them will fall and consequently their market cap will fall making it more real.
1124  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Wrong questions on: September 13, 2018, 05:27:47 AM
The question indicates, that many people are stuck at the price of $ 20,000 or maybe with the current price of bitcoin, people are having a hard time doing / giving a project to develop their products. fear of loss is a major factor in developing a project, as we already know Bitcoin is central to other coins, therefore it is only natural that the question arises.

I don't think so. Most crypto projects are actually heavily over funded. I mean, take a look how much funds the projects actually gained through their ICO phases! TOO MUCH.

not just that, there is A LOT of them too! I just added up all the coins in circulation and guess what there are 18,992,064,409,496 coins out there! I mean there isn't even the same amount of fiat in the whole world.

I also find it interesting that the word "product" is turning into a niche these days whenever someone wants to legitimize some shitcoin, usually an ICO token. and when you start asking them about "what product" they stop answering you Cheesy
1125  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Crypto is a poor form of money for terrorists. on: September 13, 2018, 05:15:18 AM
no shit! all the funding is done through US dollar. all the things the terrorists buy are bought by US dollar. there is no place for cryptocurrencies among them. specially since it is harder to use due to lack of adoption and much easier to track majority of them specially bitcoin since they are not anonymous and have a public ledger of all transactions left out in the open for everyone to see! using US dollar won't leave a trace at all.

as for that "juhad coin" or whatever you want to call it, I would doubt its origins since I have seen all kinds of weird ICOs in the past year. the kids are starting to run out of ideas for their ICOs so they are now left with these things so it may even be one of the same kids who created another ICO like the energy tokens which were supposed to make "energy cheap" LOL. or a lot of absurd tokens that were created purely to make money and nothing else.
1126  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: You should never doubt on bitcoin investment! on: September 13, 2018, 05:08:59 AM
I disagree.
having doubts when it comes to investing your money, specially in new technology, is a natural thing. people should have doubts and question everything. and bitcoin investment is a risky one. but the important thing is what you are doing after having those doubts. for example a newcomer is reading and believing the FUD instead of reading the reliable sources about bitcoin and educating himself about it then he is doing the wrong thing.

in fact that is one of the biggest problems that people usually have, and based on your last sentence I would say you also are making the same mistake. you don't educate yourself and are too caught up in making profit that you think the "whole crypto market" will go up be cause bitcoin is a good investment.
1127  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Why when the market decreases the percentage of BTC increased? on: September 13, 2018, 04:53:25 AM
it means nothing because this "percentage" is market capitalization and it is not a viable characteristic to look at or use for comparison. in fact using it in that "percentage" is completely false.

market cap is multiplication of supply and price.
bitcoin has 17 million circulating supply.
this supply is going against 1944 number of coins with total supply of 18,992,064,409,496 coins (18,992,064 million). now do you see how stupid the comparison using that "percentage" is?

in simple terms bitcoin with only having 0.00009% of the total supply has nearly 50% of the market cap! this should give you a pretty good idea how bitcoin has nearly 100% dominance over the whole market.
1128  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Let be objective with our investment on: September 11, 2018, 07:18:10 AM
We need to accept the facts that it's very difficult now to see a coins doing x10 x20 or even doing 50% returns on investment in this bear period.
your are very mistaken. altcoin pumps are already taking place. there is no pause button or "bear period" for altcoin pump and dumps. they will always get pumped and dumped every day. why do you think there is nearly 2000 altcoins available? it is because pumpers want to have as many options for pumping as possible.

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And nobody knows when the bulls will come. Therefore,  it's will be advisable to exist when your coins do 20% returns or even less. I know some investors will not be satisfied with 20% but we need to be objective and understand this bear period will last longer than expect.
in depends on which coin you are talking about.
bitcoin will start rising pretty soon, possibly next month as we put ETF behind us and the market starts up with freshness.
altcoins as I said above have been getting pumped this year too, you just haven't been looking at the pumped coins but you were stuck with the top coins that are actually getting dumped.
1129  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Psychological fear dominates the market on: September 11, 2018, 06:30:07 AM
ok fair enough---but that all boils down to investor demand. the actual cost doesn't matter---only the perceptual effect on buying/selling pressure. there is a flip side to that: if the market holds below the perceived "price where miners will prop the market" then that could reinforce fear and increase sell pressure. i could easily see price crashing to the $2000s or $3000s, miner costs be damned.
I wouldn't call such a drop "easy"!
the same size drop from $20k down to $6200 which is nearly a 70% drop was extremely hard not to mention $20k was actually a bubble going another 70% down from current price is not just "not-easy" it is in fact near impossible. not to mention that $2k is a 90% drop from ATH!

but about "fear" you are right. like anything else when the "support" or even in opposite case the "resistance" is broken it creates fear but it won't push price down drastically as you claim. just like breaking a resistance like $10k is not going to send the price to $100k.

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in the same sense, the news from goldman sachs didn't actually do anything. at most, it just helped trigger a down move that was already going to happen eventually. the reason a selloff like that occurs is because people are ready to sell; sentiment is negative and the market is bearish.
I disagree. there is no more sentiment left in the market. all that's left is day traders trying to repeat the same process with similar highs and lows to make the same amount of profit. rinse and repeat like a sinus curve ups and downs.
1130  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Can Be More Efficient Than Bank Transactions on: September 11, 2018, 06:03:58 AM
If we talk about efficiency then sorry to disappoint you, but banks are more efficient than bitcoin by far, and let me explain you why:

From the source: https://www.quora.com/How-many-transactions-do-typical-banks-process-everyday

We see mastercard have 34000+ transactions/second and visa have 24000+, if we compare that wit bitcoin, we have blocks each 10 minutes with 2500 transactions/second aprox.  So bitcoin now days can't handle yet the high number of transactions we have with banks, That's why i say bitcoin cen't be more efficent than banks, but maybe that will change in the future.

Right but Bitcoin isn't mass adopted as banks. This will probably resolved with better cryptos than Bitcoin (like steem, bitshares, eos can manage far more transactions than bitcoin).

so your reason is that because bitcoin is not mass adopted the banks won't use it.
then you say they will use an altcoin which is also not mass adopted, and not only that it is not even have  1/10000 of bitcoin adoption! does this really make sense to you, or are you just saying random stuff just to name altcoins you have invested in? Wink
1131  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The market looking more and more like the Internet frenzy at the end of the 90s. on: September 11, 2018, 05:46:48 AM
talking about bubbles is best when it is done on a case by case basis because you can't talk about the whole cryptocurrency market like that.
for instance bitcoin bubble was big but wasn't big enough to compare it with dotcom bubble. we are not even close to that point yet and if anything the current price is a huge bubble: an inverse bubble which means price is now lower than real value which I believe is closer to $10k with $20k being its bubble.

as for altcoins cases are a lot and very different. for instance there are small coins that get pumped over 1000% in one day and enter gigantic bubbles but they pop just as fast and go down. meanwhile there are bigger altcoins which have smaller but yet big bubbles like ethereum but they enter it slowly and also get out of the bubble just as slowly.
in the end it will all come down to utilities of each cryptocurrency. when altcoins don't have any utility it makes their value (no matter what it is ) a bubble.
1132  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Vitalik Buterin: Crypto, Blockchain Space Won’t See ‘1,000-Times Growth’ Again on: September 10, 2018, 06:07:58 AM
let's not forget that this is the same person who tweeted about a year ago that he doesn't believe in the future of cryptocurrencies and thought they won't rise at all while bitcoin was worth about $900 and he said you should invest in traditional assets instead.

I believe Vitalik is confusing his own pump and dump scheme which is starting to reach its "end of the line" with cryptocurrencies.
1133  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What are transaction costs like these days? on: September 10, 2018, 05:49:12 AM
I purchased $1000 worth of BTC...on Localbitcoins

when you make a withdrawal from a website (in this case withdrawing from localbitcoins.com) the  cost is not a bitcoin transaction cost the cost is that third party withdrawal cost. and they can ask for any amount they wish regardless of how much it costs them to send you the transaction. there  currently are exchanges that will charge you 0.001BTC for a bitcoin withdrawal just because they can and then they pay 0.000002BTC transaction fee themselves to send you the coins. the difference is their profit.

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how much would i expect to pay these days to transfer 0.064 btc from the exchange to my own wallet for safekeeping?
it depends on the exchange you are using, you have to check out their fees. the fee as I mentioned above is not a network fee. some exchanges are even charging a % of your amount. I remember it was btc-x (coinsbank) that charged about 1%. for instance if you wanted to withdraw 10BTC you should have paid 0.1BTC in fee!
1134  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: whats the point with bitcoin donations? on: September 10, 2018, 05:42:24 AM
i think because bitcoin is more suitable for investment than for donations
rather than donating people prefer to hold their bitcoin
so i think it's better to donate using other altcoins because the altcoin price is more stable
because we believe in the future of bitcoin
Of course believe in the future of bitcoin, most do. and you are right about altcoin- altcoin is better to donate while bitcoin is better for holding

and why do you think altcoins are better to donate?
for example when donating to a charity, they only accept USD, you can not go there and donate Zimbabwe currency! because they don't accept it and they don't want the headache of currency conversion. when it comes to altcoins it becomes even more complicated since they also have to be running a wallet for that altcoin to be able to receive donations which they won't because it will cost more to run it than they may even get donations in that altcoin.
1135  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Psychological fear dominates the market on: September 10, 2018, 05:36:39 AM
Psychological fear does dominate the market these days but not for the reasons you think. people aren't afraid of the price drops because they have not been occurring for a while now. don't confuse the recent rises to $7k+ and come back to $6k bottom as "drops" they are market fluctuation/manipulation for short term gains.
what people are afraid of is what may come next. in other words they are afraid of the short term future because of the incidents that lie ahead. such as ETF rejection. and as soon as this "fear" is lifted the price will rise.

the cost to miners doesn't matter.

it does matter, the same way something completely irrelevant such as Goldman Sachs nonsense matters for bitcoin and the price of it. it is all about speculation and what the investors think. when enough people think the cost of mining matters and is a factor to look into, then it means it matters a lot for determining the price.
1136  Economy / Speculation / Re: Settled at ~$6400 for now? on: September 09, 2018, 09:45:22 AM
Yearly is a good way to check if the price of bitcoin increase or not but this time I think we will stay around $6k to $7k this is just my speculation but since bitcoin is unpredictable bitcoin price can be increase more than what I expect.

i still think there is a fear in the market about ETF rejection which is weird but it exists and it is making people want to wait. additionally this feels very much like 2015 the more we go on, as price hit the $200 bottom and people were giving up on bitcoin and going away with most people thinking bitcoin is dead just because it is not rising up fast anymore. but behind the curtains it was being accumulated by the "wise money" while being at the bottom.

I think that's already priced in.

it is but it still is keeping investors away from coming back. for example if you look at the volume and the way bitcoin price is moving you can see it is not natural anymore. the volume is low and the rise and falls are stuck in a certain state that it rises slowly to the top of it and then is dumped into to suddenly crash down as if someone is taking profit in short term pushing the price to the initial level (bottom) to rinse and repeat and increase their wealth.
1137  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: When did people start caring what Goldman Sachs has to say about Bitcoin!? on: September 09, 2018, 08:44:44 AM
In my opinion the dump had more to do with the recent large movement of coins from an old wallet than any GS statement.

the timing of it doesn't match the drops if you check the charts.
basically the news about SilkRoad $1billion bitcoin movement started on 30 August, price was $7050+ and went down to $6800ish and then from 31 to September 5 price continued rising after the "hiccup" up to ~$7400 then the news about GC came out and price dropped on the same day. here is the link with dates:

8 days ago (large movement of coins):
https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/9bwsaf/investigating_the_1b_bitcoins_on_the_move_from_a/

4 days ago (GC):
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-09-05/bitcoin-drops-3-in-10-minutes-as-cryptocurrencies-join-selloff

link to price for comparison with dates: https://bitcoinwisdom.com/markets/bitstamp/btcusd
1138  Economy / Speculation / Re: Why BTC rates in Iran is so high on: September 09, 2018, 08:31:24 AM
It is true that the price of bitcoin in Iran is so high. I think the reason behind this problem is the inflation in Iran. Many unreliable websites are also showing the fakes news about Iran.

it is because it's enough for one news site (specially the bigger ones like bitcoin.com) to publish something for it to go viral among the other news sites. they just copy the contents, change the words (some don't even change anything!) and publish it as a new one.
in some cases I have even seen they add additional wrong information to the original wrong news and publish it just to make it look more interesting and make people "click" on their links as click baits go.
1139  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Crypto market crashes after Goldman reportedly scraps trading plans on: September 09, 2018, 08:26:48 AM
it is mostly temporary market manipulations by the big whales who are day trading in order to make profit from some FUD by creating a panic in the market. as you can see after the manipulation the price is still above the major buy support at $6k and it is not showing any signs of going any lower.

additionally because of this manipulation and the drop and  the natural altcoin dumps that has been going on for months there is an additional sell pressure on bitcoin as some part of the money is exiting from the altcoins through bitcoin/usd market. and the more altcoins are dumped the more this pressure is going to be felt in bitcoin but it is interesting that the $6k support has been ridiculously strong despite all that!
1140  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: When did people start caring what Goldman Sachs has to say about Bitcoin!? on: September 09, 2018, 06:12:44 AM
I don't suppose it is that much about caring what Goldman Sachs, SEC, and others say about bitcoin. it is mostly about what they say can affect bitcoin price, in other words it is about speculation.
for example I assure you nobody in bitcoin world gives a flying fuck about what Jamie Dimon of JP Morgan says about bitcoin but bitcoin price dropped about 30% IIRC last year when he called bitcoin "fraud". in a way it has turned into a tradition among market players that whenever some FUD is spread about bitcoin, everyone panic sells. and the funny thing is they sell because they want to buy back more of it not because they think bitcoin is over! Cheesy
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