I can confirm that access to both clearnet and onion works fine from my side. Do you find difficulties with cloudflare's captcha on the clearnet? I went straight through.

For the record and to be sure, though you've said it repetitively, you're inspired by a project that's notoriously known for its ponzi scheme, stealing 340 millions of USD from their participants victims, and was indicted by an authority of one country?

Two weeks, 13 days, to be exact. You're on 476, Hero needs 480, so you'll only need 4 more. The last activity-count update that added 14 to your number happened yesterday, the next one will be on 18th this month. That's if the schedule is still on track.

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You're posting on a thread which purpose is to congratulate a rank up, and you got annoyed because people are happy when they do exactly that? Then I'll advise you to stay a good hundreds of meters away from a thread titled Announce your rank up, merit or any achievements that makes you feel great!, you'll give yourself a stroke from the... bitter truth of it, that the thread was made to cater, and filled with, people announce anything that made them feel great. BGC made that thread to contain the excitement that people feel when they had a good day on the forum, so that instead of having tons of threads on Reputation or Meta talking about the same matter, it's focused there. I figure your sarcastic urgency will spike up if you visit that thread because... people are, apparently, like what happens here, celebrating less-than-important stuff there. Such vanity. Ack.

Addressing your concern of people's focus on money, merit, trust gain, or rank, if you feel that way about talented people on this forum, then I'll advise you to broaden your scope. There are many instances --talented-- users here are contributing to the forum, building a nice... arsenal for the army. I know people whose merit count were/are way, waaayyy, above their rank requirement, a testaments that they couldn't care less about merit or rank and simply posting to contribute, others made browser extension and app to enhance forum UX, others made patches to help the forum, several others create sites that surely help looking for specific things on the forum more convenient. I deliberately refrain from mentioning the specific name or the fruits of their contributions, because if you don't know at least one or two of what I mentioned above, then you're indeed myopic.

So, let me get this straight, your platform is growing in demand, so instead of making funds from the earned profit, you decided to do another token sale? With more supplies, and a "different" token?

Help us here by telling us again how many times do you exactly ask for self-exclusion and what did you do after it? Because from what I can get from your narrative is that you emailed self exclusion to their tech support and had a chat with their live support [evidenced by the statement that the live support see that you've submitted an email], you got a 24-h cooldown [whether this cooldown happen before, during, or after the screenshot with the live support is unknown], got another email asking if you want to extend your self exclusion, you played for a while, came back to that email only to find it invalid, and then asked live support for help and they told you to wait, and then this scam accusation arise. In other words, once. So, it'll be very helpful if you can inform us how many times exactly you asked for self-exclusion and slapped with an error page. While we're at it, if you can provide a screenshot of support telling you to wait for few days, it'll be very helpful, and will be even better if you can provide one with a timestamp so we can get a better timeline here?

I also not sure I understand this screenshot [mostly because I am not performing a self-exclusion there so I have no idea what or when will this message appear], but is this message come after your failed self exclusion or this is the message about your first failed self exclusion?

I don't think I understand, you had your token sale on your v.1, and then you create your v.2 because you have a growing demand, but you add another token sale for it? Why?

Ok, while the technical issue being discussed here with albon, let's give you a benefit of doubts and talk about your project details, first, let's archive your website --CoinSage, MoneyCraze-- just in case, although the screenshots on the opening post had pretty much documented everything.

Tell me, this... project, the only thing it offer is registering to the "platform" and pay 0.05 BNB to the contract, i.e. to you, and nothing else? There's nothing to trade, no purpose, literally nothing to do other than pay you and then sit and wait?

I can't be sure what's really happening on their back-end, but from what I can conclude from your narrative and the screenshots you provide, you asked live support for self exclusion, some casino might have this method for such request, but apparently they don't, their live support doesn't have the power to process your self exclusion, it must be done through their technical team, of which you were instructed to send your email to.

Your problem here lies on the fact that after their cool-down period, upon being asked if you want to proceed with the self exclusion [and how long], you played for a while. I am not sure which action triggered the expiration of the self exclusion link, the time or that you played, but suppose you proceed with the self exclusion right away, I am sure you'll see and get what LM get; the self-exclusion being processed.

Imagine it this way, you ask for a fast, and your wife or your mother or whoever cook for you, agreed to let you fast for a few hours [or maybe a day], and later on, when they ask if you still want to proceed with your fasting and that they'll wait for your answer in few hours, you took a meal, and only later on come back and said, "hey, I want to proceed with the fast, this time permanently." can they be blamed if they assume you've decided to stop fasting from your previous action?

So yeah, from that perspective, I have to agree that there is no bug from their system.

As for how the magic happen, it's because the representative here [or the one on CG, if they're not the same people] must have a higher authority than the live support that they can issue an exclusion on your account, which probably also the reason why he asked your username.

Ultimately, let's break it further down again. Your issue here is that you feel the casino cheated or will cheat their user because their self-exclusion method doesn't work. Well, it works, if the player asked for self-exclusion and stick to their decision to self-exclude themselves on the entire process, there will be no expired link or the need to restart the whole procedire. So, unless I'm wrong with the narrative and there's another thing that I missed, there is no issue here.

Thank you for this added info about your activity as well as the "KYC"-tied self-exclusion. If I may change my question, other than cloudbet, do you still play on other online casinos after that self-exclusion?

Exactly, OP's complaint here is that the casino being irresponsible by not allowing a self-exclusion, with a supporting evidence that the link is invalid, argued that the casino tries to scam their customer by making this self-exclusion impossible, that he can't self exclude after he won. But if what happened here is that he can't self-exclude after a cool-down period because he played right after that cool-down period is over, or that the link expires because he played, it's not an issue at all, it's a stupidity. LM tried the self-exclusion himself and it worked smoothly, proof that the representative's claim that there is no bug in their system is true. So, no scam happens here, and this thread is nothing but... well...

Yes, I've read about his complaint on LCB, the issue to be highlighted here is that OP state he's proactively made himself self-excluded from gambling platform in Australia, as such, if he plays [played?] fair, his risk of being exposed to a targeted email for gambling market should be somewhat minimal, because he'll be "protected" from online and offline gambling platforms, he can't play on any offline casino [obviously] and can't sign up with any online Australia-authorized casino. Unless... he bypassed the Australia georestriction and played online somewhere else, from where his email address then leaked and expose him to the targeted marketing. Which means, in tone with what you said, it's fair to assume case similar to this one have happened before. Which lead us to a possibility there's more to OP's story than he repetitively tell us.

Well? Ball is in your court now, albon gave his supporting evidence here. Care to give your rebuttal? Meanwhile, as the evidence is very much damning, here's a support to the flag and a nice addition to that cute small number in red [I always think it's orange, by the way]. Enjoy.

Why it's important to me is because I can only assume they get your email address from two possible ways. One, you subscribed to their newsletter or signed up to their platform [which you denied] or, as Lucius assumed, leaked from anywhere [which, as the other one became less likely, then this one become more likely].

Problem is, it's not too far fetched to think that a leaked email which target such a specific market, a gambler, will come from a gambling database. I don't think a leaked database from Myer membership will expose you to this targeted marketing. So, quite possibly a gambling database, perhaps online gambling database, as I don't think an offline, brick and mortar, gambling "platform" will ask email address for your membership, thus, less likely to become the source of a leak.

But, and here's what the fuss is about, you told us that you've never been on crypto gambling platform before, and further, you also repetitively said that you've been permanently self-excluded from any gambling casino in Australia, these two for example ^[1][2]. So it should be impossible for you to sign up on online gambling platforms, correct? Unless... you use VPN or other ways to bypass your own self-exclusion?

edit: adding missing and incomplete sentence, marked with underline. This is what happen when I take a leak when writing about a leak.

No, I am saying that if you got both betID from stake, then they have two kind of bet log system, the short and the long version, it is not their system acting up by adding lines or anything, it's just two type of log, the short and the long, and it doesn't really matter.

As I said, the log can add the whole text of The Silmarillion into their lines and it still doesn't change the outcome: where the field containing bomb were placed.


that is me watering down the log to align with your depth of knowledge, just like you wanted it. You kept insisting on complicating something that's actually a non-issue, arguing that it's something that should raise concern where it doesn't. So there it is, the "short version" of the log. If you still can't grasp it, the difference between the two logs is exactly like what I show you up there, the short one simply shows elements that's essential and removing things that's not really important, such as the rest of the fields after hitting a bomb.

I don't think I understand the complete situation here correctly. Allow me to rephrase, you've never play on any online casino ever before cloudbet send you the promotional emails that lead us to this situation right now? At all? So where do they get your email address?

I don think Don will answer [a dad joke fully intended] as your question will be very much out of topic, so I'll be brief [as much as I can, because it's a rather complex system], you can shoot me a PM if you have further question for this topic, or you can look around, there are plenty of reading material available across the boards on this forum, or ask on the beginners and help board.

In layman's term, a DT [Default Trust] is a group of people whose judgment are valued and trusted by the forum, thus when they participate on a trust flag or leave a trust feedback, what they leave will be shown for public eyes. If you see those numbers below the username on left side of everyone's post, the "-0 / =0 / +0" or on other cases, "-8 / =1 / +3" or whatever numbers showing there, it's because a DT, be it a DT1 or DT2 leave a positive, neutral, or negative feedback on that account.

When a non-DT leave their feedback, it won't show by default, you'll need to go to their trust page and click the "show ratings" on the "untrusted feedback" section to bring this up.

The list of DTs is ever changing due to the decentralized nature that theymos want to enact, you can always see the DT list here, being updated weekly.

So you've never visited their website as well prior to the email, and you barely even know a crypto gambling platform existed prior to the promotion email arrived at your inbox?

Do I understand the chronological narrative was that you contacted live support and ask for self exclusion, which they redirect you to email the support team with such request, they then issued you a 24 hours cool-down, of which after the cool-down, you can extend the period to permanently [or any other time you preferred] if the request is submitted within certain period after the email asking about this to you was sent, so you play there for a while before re-visiting the email and try to request the permanent self-exclusion, which no longer works?

I need a refresher course because there are several cases on my mind and I'm... not that interested to dig into your post to find what I'm looking for, so I'll just ask. How did you get those advertising email on the first place, again? Did you sign up for newsletter or something, or did they just send you an email out of the blue?

For the public record, this is why I asked what outcome will explaining the betID brings us, because you simply can't accept there is nothing wrong with the betID, so you started looking for nonexistent issues to drag things around. Let me make it easier to you with another color-coded explanation


it suits you better now?

The thing is, the length of the betID doesn't really matter, you hit a field containing bomb right on what the log said, at field number 3. They can add the whole text of Silmarillion on the log and it doesn't change the outcome and the truth: you hit a field containing bomb as what's been generated prior to the game being played, bomb triggered, game ended, end of story.

If you can't understand this, I'm not sure how else anybody can help you.