Hi, this is a very informative thread. I have not read the thread thoroughly, but at a glance, I think it'll be better suited and appreciated if you move them to begginers and help. One, because people who came here and found this thread most likely has already been scammed and this thread is a bit... too late for them to read, and two, IMO, the scam accusation board is more to --as the name suggested-- accuse an entity, solving a dispute and/or reporting a scam action. Such informative thread like this will be very much helpful and more on-context on the beginners sections

I take it that, as you've been here for couple of years and been busting scammers a lot, you are aware that providing evidences can be made from both sides? That is one of the purpose of this thread as well as my invitation on the other thread, to let you answer and defend yourself here.

You are more than welcome to give the screenshots from your side, and... uhh... what's the words? Ahhh... speak with proof and let the audience decide for themselves..

You are correct about Steve generally help solving every problem sitewise. He's also known to never linger on one case once a verdict is made. He has given you his word that he'll get to the bottom of your case, if you haven't heard from him or other support team, then I think he had got to the bottom of it and found that the decision made by the team is correct and justified, thus leaving it. You might want to refer to Findingnemo's explanation here to get a better insight on what ToS you most likely broke.

Suuuupp, Freddy? 

Yeah, now that I'm legendary, the next sacred duty will be to help deserving members to rank up. I wouldn't mind the challenge if theymos created "angelic" or "archon" or whatever-it'll-be-named with 2,000 merit, though, it'll be a nice new challenge.

Please invite me to your 20 bedrooms mansion when it's available.

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If theymos allowed you to change it, may I suggest that the new shorter version of your pseudonym is simply "paid2"? LOL, it'll be quite an inside joke, I think. The number 2 as reference to your old username as well as because "paid" is already owned by someone and abandoned. It must be a hell for him if his account is still active, and he uses ninja's tg bot. Imagine the amount of notification he got on daily basis if he turned the "mentions notification" on.

I find it funny you said something like that. Not in the kind of funny "hahaha", the other kind of funny. Perhaps you want to share the facts fairly about this issue here?

[gasp]
Ohh well, I am working for rollbit, you're correct. That's why I left them negative tag up to few hours ago, and even a neutral tag is still there when this post was made. That's also why I criticize them and said they shared the burden of blame for this case, all because secretly I'm their best staff. But as you wished, I'm leaving this thread alone. Good luck with your case.

Thank you for this update. To clarify, the person doing video verification is a different person whose ID and photo is being submitted for their previous KYC purpose?

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OP, I'm giving you the best benefit of doubt here by giving you three days to explain or say whatever you have to say regarding that statement by Razer above. If you have no more thing to say to defend your position, I'll be inclined to think Rollbit has made a good decision and this case is closed for me, thus I'm retracting my neutral tag by Sunday.

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Edit: retracted.

So, just to make it clear by stating the obvious, you choose rollbit to trade instead of the conventional CEX or DEX is because they're offering 1,000x leverage? I wasn't sure I understand this feature correctly that I need to search for a back-up information from an article.

Wouldn't you agree if we say that your intention is not purely good? You came to rollbit to exploit this feature to make a huge profit from a tiny amount of money.

However, IMO, with that said, you're not the only one to blame. Rollbit also shared the burden and at fault here. If they're not ready for an "exploitation" of their feature and have a countermeasure placed to deter abuses, they shouldn't offer the feature on the first place.

Based on Razer's reply above, you've made way so many profit, roughly 670x of your initial deposit, if my calculator is not error. Wouldn't you agree that it is way above the word "enough"?


Just like other case --the other one, not the one with video conference-- can you please give a better explanation on what kind of market manipulation and abuse OP did?

If I may give a suggestion and be blunt about it, if you're not ready for a feature with all things and security placed, don't offer it and then kicking your user(s) out because they put your book in red.

Hi, updating the thread with recent development. Razer finally replied to my PM yesterday evening informing me that --more or less-- he'll escalate the issue to the support team. Hopefully OP will hear from them about video verification soon. Meanwhile, I'll change the negative feedback to a neutral one as the purpose of the tag was never to left a bad verdict to Razer or Rollbit, and more to catch their attention, which already achieved.

OP, please update us accordingly if you've heard from them and have the video convo scheduled and/or the issie cleared.

my apologies for not being able to update the thread sooner, the instance I got the PM, I was AFK almost all day yesterday

Just so anyone can get a better understanding of your case, can you please upload as many evidences as you can? Spare no mercy, "flood" this thread with screenshots, it'll help us understand the whole story. Your snippets is a bit inadequate to draw a conclusion, especially with moonlight, it seems they're giving a more detailed information of the situation below the snippet of the chat you provided.

Also for "trading", I understand correctly you mean as in literal trading, exchanging one crypto to another? And not a game of trade or something? Why would you even use a gambling site to trade?

Done just now. I'd like to ask you to give a little bit more patience, if you don't mind, for my message to be noticed by sportsbet's representative and for them to take action.

OP, lock this thread as you have another exactly similar one with more traffic. Having two exact thread will just confuses people and made the resolution attempt less focused. The button to lock this thread will be on the bottom of the page, left side corner.

That's probably the most important part to highlight on this thread, which also why I suggested OP to wait for the system to reverse it. I believe it has not been more than 24 hours since OP reached to bc.games customer support --if OP ever did-- as the transaction itself happened in less than 24 hours ago, as evidenced by the screenshot of the receipt by OP.

It's safe to assume we won't see Jr BM in a while, or forever. They've abandoned their telegram channel and deleted their TG account, it's a ghost town waiting for their citizen to realize they're writing to no one, and Jr BM probably also left the tagged account for good as well. Their long run action will be to re-emerge with another username and another TG group.

Have you consider the likelyhood of the system need some time to reverse the transaction? I am not familiar with Indian banking system, and since several articles I searched gave me mixed answer, I resort to our latest brand new and still shiny source of information, ChatGPT. To summarize my conversation with... it, the likelyhood of transaction got successfull and credited to a wrong account is about 1%, but it does need several days to reverse the said transaction, suppose it is not credited to a wrong account.

Below is the snippet of the conversation:

Let's not start throwing unnecessary accusations towards anyone. I know you're frustrated and understandably irritated, but shasan is one of the reputable members and a good scam busters of the forum. If a platform cheated their users, and proven by evidences, he'll agreed and said so instead of defending them, any of them.

What he tried to say is that your winning is arguably low compared to their daily cash flow and for them to risk their hard-earned reputation just to "earn" from the amount cheated, and thus, it's quite likely they're trying to figure out your case.

Razer was online again some time yesterday, and quite likely see the tag left on their account. I hope you'll hear from them soon.

The so-called kiddie pool you're looking for is within the forum itself, we literally has a board dedicated for these "kiddies" to swarm around and learn how to "swim". It's in the name, Beginners & Help. Emphasize on the word "beginners" which can be used interchangably with "newbies".

There's even a swimming instructor giving helps and pointers on how to roam around the other boards, called Newbies - Read before posting . It's pinned, it's at the top of the page once you opened the board. Not sure how you missed it, or if you ever even looked at that board.

Moving to lending topic, there's also a pointer for beginner lenders and borrowers, with another "swimming instructor" on it, [EDU] The Rule of "No Collateral, No Loan" - IGNORE AT YOUR OWN RISK! and [EDU] EXERCISE CAUTION WHEN LENDING TO USERS! Enjoy! You can use these piece of information as you deemed fit.

Oh, here's another pointer: the mods frowned greatly against consecutive posts. Expect your post to be merged by mods. Try to not taking it too personally, almost everybody who made multiple posts at once insted of replying in one long post faced the same situation. It's not you, it's the rule.

Even if OP see the red flags, it'll be already too late for them. I have never used exodus and all of their services before, so I can't be sure, but if OP's case is just like the one I said above with N.exchange, the users were not let know which third party exodus is using.

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OP, perhaps you want to try an approach suggested by Potato Chips on the other thread,


or try to get in touch with bvg96634, you both has a quite identical situation, just a different 3rd party. Maybe he can give you a suggestions on how he got out of the situation.

For now? I think the best you can do is wait patiently. There's no ADR platform that could help intermediating your case --that we know of-- so your best chance is probably wait for their reply here on the forum. I have left a negative feedback on both of their official accounts for a neighboring case in hope to persuade them solving cases against them that started to form a pile, and bitcoingirl has also left a neutral tag, albeit for different purpose. I suggest you to wait until they're back online and see if they'll respond to your case

I understand correctly that you completed all the requirement asked by criptointercambio and they asked you to wait while they reviewed your case? Do they give any estimation about how long will it be?

Meanwhile, you might want to familiarize yourself with a quite similar case of yours regarding a third party swap and exodus, EXODUS + N.Exchange = SCAM | STAY AWAY