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1241  Economy / Reputation / Re: Strange behaviour of too many alts at once. on: August 20, 2023, 04:05:38 PM
Reported them under fake roulette, fake parent company, and a possible attempt to phish gullible users. Let's see if it got handled and moved to trash.


Moving that thread to the altcoin is the best that we can get since no one here can prove that website is scam by trying by themselves the casino. I report many of this scam attempt but none of them move to trash can especially if the thread is properly constructed as announcement thread. The only result I can get aside from moving the thread on altcoin board is my report record added with a bad report count.

I think moving the thread on Altcoin board can be considered as trash too since only few or close to no user interact to that board due to flooded ANN thread from shitcoins.

Hmm... I think we actually have some basis to think that the roulette itself is scam, if we may connect it with the evidences found on my investigation of their "parent company", BitCase. What we're yet to figure is how, will they ask for private key? Use a drainer malware? Or will they ask for certain deposit to unlock withdrawal.

If I may quote myself about the quick investigaton of BitCase [there are still lots of materials about BitCase that can be pointed out from their website, but I think these points are enough to cover the nature of the website] as well as to safe-keep the research result in case the first thread moved to trash,

[...]
Challenge accepted. How about these for a reason for doubt? This is what your website said [archived]



Copyright 2019-2023, Bitcase Group, Ltd., Cyprus, where the event itself is to commemorate 15 million cases.

1. Your page is copyrighted from 2019, while it's just six months old. BitCase, the "parent company" of yours, who held the event for 15 million cases, are created even more recent



2. Bitcase Group, Ltd. is the name of the registered company. Depends on which website people accessed, it's either registered in Cyprus [for those who access it from markeeter[dot]com] or in UK if seen from bitcase[dot]org [archived]. They're both came negative, though.





3. The header of markeeter is clickable and linking to bitcase [as it should be, given it's the subsidiary of bitcase group]. [Edit: proof-reading it prior to hitting the post button and I found that it's no longer redirecting me to bitcase page? I can swear to any holy being that I was redirected from clicking the header, though] On bitcase, we'll be able to see testimonials from Portia Villa who apparently also has a twin named Lexie Cuevas who happen to write the review and uhh...



Catrine Galvan and Kellis Humphries?




Polly Rush?


Thought?
1242  Economy / Reputation / Re: Strange behaviour of too many alts at once. on: August 20, 2023, 03:36:11 PM
The 2nd thread is still sitting in the gambling section, so looks like noone has reported that 1. Maybe use different reasoning and see if moderators move it or trash it.

Reported them under fake roulette, fake parent company, and a possible attempt to phish gullible users. Let's see if it got handled and moved to trash.

[...]
Can moderators do this?

Nuke an account? Yes. With sufficient reason, moderators has the power to send an account into oblivion.
1243  Economy / Reputation / Re: Haunebu and 3kpk3 - merit system abuse on: August 20, 2023, 03:21:33 PM
[...]
The abuse happened until late 2018, where everyone was well aware how Merit should be used, how important it was for ranking up.
[...]

Hmm... I stand corrected on the merit cluelessness. I admit that I didn't check the log [I assume the log didn't cover that far back to 2018, just like the archiver by loyce and ninjastic] and thus didn't aware the full depth of the merit distribution. I assumed that both accounts sent a huge amount of merit once, realized or being warned about it [or got educated by himself] and stopped doing it.

If the distribution was spread evenly throughout the year, then yes, I think Haunebu should be, at one point, aware of the implication of his action and continued on doing so before stopped altogether.

I am now torn for the negative, though. I initially inclined to think that even the merit abuse is proven, then the tag should be a neutral one, given the negative dictate,



and on this case, there were no risk [at least according to my opinion, but I am open for discussion] of trading with Haunebu, i.e., he's not scamming anyone. But your reference of what hilariousandco said moved me an inch or two from my stance. I am now not sure what to do.

May I ask your opinion if I counter hilariousandco's opinion for red tag with the one given by theymos, [I stole it from nutildah's on previous page]

- Forgiveness: Often people make fairly small mistakes, but then they seemingly get red-trusted for life. This isn't really fair, and it discourages participation due to paranoia: if you think that you have a 1% chance of running afoul of some unwritten rule and getting red-trusted for life, you might just avoid the marketplace altogether. Red trust should mostly be based on an evaluation of what the person is likely to do in the future moreso than a punishment/mark-of-shame.

if we consider that as it's been five years since both account exchange merits, then it's probably safe to assume that the mistake happened in the past and won't happen in the future. Thus, red tagging them will pose as a mark-of-shame instead of a warning for others.

What's your thought on this?
1244  Other / Archival / Re: Sinbad.io Mixer - secure, fast and easy to use on: August 20, 2023, 07:18:11 AM
In the avatar contest we were able to shortlisted 6 participants. We need to filter out and need to keep only two participants / two set of entries. We may consider your feedback in it too to filter it to two. Please let us know.

The shortlisted entries we are considering:

[...]

We will read carefully your opinion before picking up the final two.

Cheers,

So, two participants with two avatars for each of them? I am liking:

icalical's pirate flag and treasure map entry, and cafter's pirate hat from first and third image of entry number 1 PX-Z's flag for the reason that I shared with examplens, I liked and always think avatar without background [i.e. not square] is neat.

Edit: Sorry, I understand correctly that our votes are limited to the ones you mark in red square? Thus, cafter's avatar will be from his third entry? On that case, I am revising my vote to PX-Z's set number 1. Though if I may give my two cents without disrespecting your choice, cafter's hat is also nice
1245  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: SCAM from duckdice.io on: August 20, 2023, 06:22:05 AM
[...]

The reason the withdrawals were cancelled  (except the 290 $ one) was simply because KYC was required.
[...]

Regardless, will get back once I have more info on your case.

Kirito89,
Duckdice Support.

If I may add more about this case and what you inquire to your security team, wasn't the OP already passed the 3rd level KYC and thus they've fulfilled the KYC requirement?

[...] but administration asked me to complete 3 lvls of verification, which I've successfully passed. After it they confiscated my winnings, without real reasons.

[...]

(11:18:13)   Sukh
This is because you haven't completed kyc for level 3 before but now I can see it's completed for level 3 as well so Just try to make a withdrawal again and I will leave a message for admins
[...]
1246  Economy / Reputation / Re: Haunebu and 3kpk3 - merit system abuse on: August 20, 2023, 06:08:29 AM
[...]
I've re-read everything and especially the quote of theymos about Merit selling got a bit misinterpreted here in my opinion. He said:

If a DT member tags you for something stupid involving merit (ie. probably anything less than selling merit), then they're not going to be a DT member for much longer.
In his statement, he's leaving lots of space for speculation.
Because who defines, what's similarly bad like Merit selling (theymos: "probably anything less than selling merit")?
In my opinion, sending Merit to my Alt Account is such a case. We can still argue if it needs to be deliberate, repeated sending to our Alt Account.

In his quote, I believe theymos only wanted to express to be very lenient how someone spends his sMerit, as long it's not directly involving Merit sales (x Merit for x BTC) or sending Merit to our own Alt Account.
For example even if I send 50 Merit to this post from holydarkness and do it 2x again for similar posts, it's not abuse because
- it's not selling
- holydarkness is not my Alt Account
- the quality provided is enough be be a meritable post (yes, can be argued if it's deserving 50 Merit)

Conclusion:  
In my opinion, a tag to Haunebu Account for Merit abuse would not violate the quote from theymos. Opinions?

Sadly, I have to disagree. In my opinion, [negative] tagging Haunebu [and 3kpk3] account for merit abuse would violate the quote from theymos.

The post quoted, as you've very nicely laid out, is about leniency [though I think that case is for Merit Source and about how they exhaust their merit quota]. Combine that with what yahoo said here on #22 that the merit exchange happened close to when the merit system is being introduced and everybody is still fumbling with sending and receiving merit, and that he has never exchanged any between both ever since, there's a huge chance that Haunebu didn't know what he may or may not do with his merit. So, it's a case of merit cluelessness rather than a merit abuse, which warrant even more less [negative] tag. Tagging him for such would step into the realm of "something stupid involving merit".

If a tag should be given, at best, it'll be a neutral tag to indicate the alt-connection to give pointer to campaign manager if he's ever enrolling both of his account on the same campaign, but not for the merit abuse cluelessness.
1247  Economy / Reputation / Re: Strange behaviour of too many alts at once. on: August 20, 2023, 05:16:36 AM
I went through their "parent company", BitCase, who held this free raffle to celebrate their 15 million cases [whatever that is]. The link to bitcase[dot]org can initially be accessed by clicking the logo on their header, but it's no longer clickable. Anyway, the parent company itself shows so many red flags, and I think it's enough to tell us the truth about this "raffle" and warrant a tag. I'm leaving one as well.
1248  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Marketplace (Altcoins) / Re: Crypto/NFT open source roulette on: August 19, 2023, 07:14:47 PM
It's funny, but can you tell me a mirror of the official site?
I am sending a mirror because the casino is banned in many countries.

Err...? The official site of the roulette platform that give free raffle to comemmorate an achievement of 15 million cases by bitcase[dot]org, which... has characteristics as I mentioned above? How will this make a difference?
1249  Economy / Gambling / Re: Whats happening with Betnomi? on: August 19, 2023, 07:09:54 PM
[...]

[...]
Here's my theory. I don't know if you have seen a Black Mirror episode, "Smithereens", but what's happening here with Betnomi might be similar to the events in that episode, [...]

If I am not mistaken, the crisis in that episode ended in less than one day, if not mere hours, and definitely not weeks. And if we take a second to suppose that's what happened, Sorsis took a month-off, it still doesn't explain the other situation where the entire website slowly dissipates into void, admins of tg goes frenzy, social medias followed the website into the void, etc.

You are not mistaken, that's right. But then you remember that someone's life was in danger, not someone's money.

Umm... point?

If you're proposing that in the fictional scenario, the situation is more dire than what happened here [life v. money] and thus their staffs are more motivated to reach the founder to solve the situation, I'd like to remind you that the founder of this platform knows what happened before he disappeared.

If he's in an emergency [that's what inferred from one of his last communication with icopress, not traveling] and intended to keep the integrity of his platform, given he's aware of the situation, he can point one or two of his staffs to be the acting director.
1250  Other / Archival / Re: Sinbad.io Mixer - secure, fast and easy to use on: August 19, 2023, 06:28:13 PM
[...]
I personally think it doesn't sound good [me and my own opinion, of course]. If a session needs a manual termination button, there's a chance someone forgot to click the button, and thus, one step backward from privacy [as explained by examplens and bhadz]. If dev wants to venture into an option to manually terminate a session, I think it'll be better to reverse the proposed idea; instead of having the manual termination button by default, dev add a check mark to allow people to keep the session longer or until they pressed the termination button. Otherwise, the sessions will end like always.

Not sure about the implications behind this, though. Wouldn't it mean sinbad has to keep a log [albeit selectively] to cater this idea? I can imagine some people will not welcome this idea.
Yes, that's a good idea by having that feature and it's just like an expiration if ever the user forgots to do that and the devs don't have anything to do with it. The session can be ended on an instant based on the user's discretion and if not, it is automatically gone based on the set period of time.

I'll use this chance to re-emphasize that I personally think it's not a good idea. Having a possibility to manually terminate a session by preference implies that Sinbad keep a log of user's transaction. Be it due to the user's request and preference or not, it's a step back from the anonimity that supposed to be offered by a mixer. It'll be a very great assurance to anyone that the platform --any mixer platform-- does not keep a log longer than it needed to be [that is, until the transaction is finished].
1251  Economy / Reputation / Re: Haunebu and 3kpk3 - merit system abuse on: August 19, 2023, 06:05:06 PM
Nice catch, @OP but do you have a really convincing proof, it's really his Alt Account?
Just sending Merit, even for large amounts as long as posts are at least halfways useful, doesn't prove anything. Do we have more proof like linked BTC / ETH addresses or shared Social Media accounts?
If not, it's just not enough proof in my opinion.  

According to this old digging by decodx, yes, they shared an address and username. This was part of OP's evidence on his opening post, though he can only share link because the thread was locked. It was also repeated here [quoted below], so their alt relationship is pretty much established.

I believe Haunebu and 3kpk3 are alt accounts of the same user. Maybe someone is willing to do a full report?

proof:
SegWit BTC Address: 3NHVD2aUvDqSz1ZU8HhFUjBV8TdDHtCXPA
Bitcointalk Username: 3kpk3
BTC Address for payouts: 3NHVD2aUvDqSz1ZU8HhFUjBV8TdDHtCXPA
BitcoinTalk Username: Haunebu
Telegram Username: kpk33
Bitcoin address: 3NHVD2aUvDqSz1ZU8HhFUjBV8TdDHtCXPA

BTC Address: 3Kjuqbkpdo2D7LQDHWrYrvmcguSrs6Bfnb
Telegram Handle : @kpk333
Bitcoin Address : 3Kjuqbkpdo2D7LQDHWrYrvmcguSrs6Bfnb


Username: Haunebu

[p.s.: I envied your avatar, LOL]
1252  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: [Solved] Crashino.com Scam $80 winnings were not paid. on: August 19, 2023, 05:54:22 PM
Okay.

They fixed the issue already, and I tested it by making another deposit.
I am quoting the email I sent to them;

[image snip]

I got 20% extra when I deposited. I did not want to take advantage of this glitch. As I said, the amount is tiny in my case. But if any abusers discover it, they could have misused it.

The funny thing is I did not get any reply yet via email. Their live support responded after 20 hours. Moreover, I got banned from their telegram group in return. I just posted, "Can someone from Crashino official contact me? I found a bug" in their telegram group, and boom. I was banned. LOL

Ok, this question might sound stupid, but... are we sure it is a glitch and not something like a deposit bonus promo and the likes? I tried to toy with the amount, counting in a rounding error, the number is indeed around 20%, it's a tad bit too precise for a random glitch and, IMO, more like a bonus?
1253  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Marketplace (Altcoins) / Re: Crypto/NFT open source roulette on: August 19, 2023, 05:36:42 PM
Your words = air.

Breathable?

Like roulette where you get 1 free spin almost every day, maybe not fair? Think what you write or present evidence of deceit.

Challenge accepted. How about these for a reason for doubt? This is what your website said [archived]



Copyright 2019-2023, Bitcase Group, Ltd., Cyprus, where the event itself is to commemorate 15 million cases.

1. Your page is copyrighted from 2019, while it's just six months old. BitCase, the "parent company" of yours, who held the event for 15 million cases, are created even more recent



2. Bitcase Group, Ltd. is the name of the registered company. Depends on which website people accessed, it's either registered in Cyprus [for those who access it from markeeter[dot]com] or in UK if seen from bitcase[dot]org [archived]. They're both came negative, though.





3. The header of markeeter is clickable and linking to bitcase [as it should be, given it's the subsidiary of bitcase group]. [Edit: proof-reading it prior to hitting the post button and I found that it's no longer redirecting me to bitcase page? I can swear to any holy being that I was redirected from clicking the header, though] On bitcase, we'll be able to see testimonials from Portia Villa who apparently also has a twin named Lexie Cuevas who happen to write the review and uhh...



Catrine Galvan and Kellis Humphries?




Polly Rush?


Thought?
1254  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: [Solved] Crashino.com Scam $80 winnings were not paid. on: August 18, 2023, 12:14:14 PM
Okay, I unlocked it again.

There is something wrong with Crashino.
Does any of you guys have contact with the Crashino team except for efialtis?

[...]

No, I don't think anyone other than efialtis did. Or, if anyone do, I don't think they managed to get in touch with Crashino's representative, given their last online activity was in 18 April, months ago. Your best shot will be to try to ask efialtis to reach them again.
1255  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Marketplace (Altcoins) / Re: Crypto/NFT open source roulette on: August 18, 2023, 07:25:55 AM
[...]
Are you advertising your services? You're funny.
Roulette is really working, I checked.

Are you waking up from six years of long sleep just to give testimonial about this site? You're amazing.

What he offered is a better way to promote the platform than those questionable posts made above, suppose the platform itself is legit [he'll do a DD prior to accepting to be hired]. I understand it might be quite difficult for you to follow the recent situation of this forum [and this is me assuming you're still the original owner of this account] due to the long sleep. But the user you quoted is one of the top notch campaign manager on this forum.
1256  Economy / Reputation / Re: Haunebu and 3kpk3 - merit system abuse on: August 18, 2023, 06:53:13 AM
It's already established that they are alts, that's not illegal on this forum. It's only illegal if they are joining the same sig campaign at the same time or abusing bounty campaigns.

I'm quoting the original post being referred here in full [below], just for the sake of added context. If I may add, aside from what yahoo said, one that's also not allowed is to add one's main account into alt's their trust list [on this case, I'll assume Haunebu is the main and 3kpk3 is the alt], though it's ok to add your alt to your main's trust list.

[...]
  • It's okay to include your alt-account on your own Trust list. This means you trust the feedback you left from that account. [...]
  • Don't include your main account from your alt account(s). This could influence DT1-voting, and although that's not part of this guide, it's bad
[...]



Username: Haunebu
1257  Other / Archival / Re: Sinbad.io Mixer - secure, fast and easy to use on: August 18, 2023, 06:22:29 AM
Yes, what you say, technically it is right. Mine is just an old habit of the "destroy this session" button
Maybe that suggestion will be heard from you if you want it to be valid a little bit longer. But as explained, it has something to do with the users privacy and sinbad don't take those information as it's part of the mixing service. But let's see if that sounds good for the devs.

I personally think it doesn't sound good [me and my own opinion, of course]. If a session needs a manual termination button, there's a chance someone forgot to click the button, and thus, one step backward from privacy [as explained by examplens and bhadz]. If dev wants to venture into an option to manually terminate a session, I think it'll be better to reverse the proposed idea; instead of having the manual termination button by default, dev add a check mark to allow people to keep the session longer or until they pressed the termination button. Otherwise, the sessions will end like always.

Not sure about the implications behind this, though. Wouldn't it mean sinbad has to keep a log [albeit selectively] to cater this idea? I can imagine some people will not welcome this idea.



Have you guys checked out the designs that the Bitcointalk members created for the Sinbad avatar campaign that was brought to an end 2 days ago? There are many really good looking creations there, and picking a winner won't be easy.

Among the designs, I particularly liked bitmover's avatars. I also have my eyes on SamReomo's red-hat-wearing pirate from his second entry. cafter's third design from the third entry looks nice. 
Who do you think will win?

I loved icalical's and PX-Z's first design, the pixelated ones, purely because it matched the current retro-pixelated theme of the site
1258  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: BC.GAME trying to SCAM BLATANTLY!! on: August 17, 2023, 05:57:01 PM
What exactly was the "violation", winning bets? Betby is full of scummy traders, I hope you can switch your oddsprovider ASAP because it will ruin your reputation even further.

You encounter 2/2 same issue on different casino that related to sportsbook. One from Bc.game and the other one is from Dexsports. You manage convince BC.game to pay you at their own expense by pressuring them using this scam accusation but I wonder how come you will experience same issue on different sportsbook if you really doesn’t violate the casino ToS.

I don’t know what you are doing behind but you have something shit going or else you will not have any issue. Your account was created just file a scam accusation to the casino that you have problem. Are you using the forum to get sympathy and pressure casino to get your way?

This is actually part of the reason why I asked BC.GAME my question. I'd like to know if there's more behind this case, if we need to take OP's cases with grains of salt or if OP is one of the unluckiest person on earth. Is it true that OP's KYC is locked and why is that?

BC said that, other than a case of violation of sportsbook on the part below that I snipped, dragged cases like OP's happen when they've been repetitively given explanation by CS,

[...]
This may seem like a long running case to you but you have to consider that players typically only resort to posting in forums after their issue has already been decided and they have been given an explanation by the CS, many times. Then, after spamming the support and support stops responding... then they find other avenues. [...]

but if we give OP's explanation of the situation a benefit of doubts, then this case is actually a case of negligence from BC's side.

OP reached them to inform them that he can't do KYC as it's locked --bug or whatever-- and based on what we can conclude from the current narrative, their customer service informed him repetitively but no solution was given or made. OP's KYC is still locked. I can only assume that they require KYC as a preliminary step of sportbetting abuse, so it rather doesn't make sense if they locked OP's KYC while they tried to find a ground on OP's case.

Meanwhile, from the other side of the table, if we take weight on Dexsport's explanation on the other thread, that OP violate their TnC, it'll be a recurring theme of OP.

Thus, I'd like to ask BC.GAME --I think this question does not and will not jeopardize their security algorithm of fraud detection, so I don't see why they can't answer this-- is it true that OP's KYC page is locked, in spite of him --according to what's implied on your statement-- been trying to solve it by repetitively reaching your customer service? If so, why is that?
1259  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: [WARNING] Whirlwind.money - withdrawals are not being processed ⚠️ on: August 17, 2023, 11:02:14 AM
[...]
Is there any way for members to get paid for their loses if they can prove they have coins stuck in whirlwind?
[...]

There's an ongoing discussion on their ANN about considering using funds escrowed by MJ to compensate what's lost by this... incident, but I think [if the idea is approved] the priority should be compensate those who deposited on whirlwind first, and later on to the campaign participants
1260  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: BC.GAME trying to SCAM BLATANTLY!! on: August 17, 2023, 09:56:20 AM
I can say there was a clear violation of the sportsbook ToU made by the OP but after many conversations with the third-party risk management team, we decided not to comply with their decision and fixed the situation at our own expense. In the future, I hope the OP will read the terms of the sites he is using before making these types of accusations.
If there was a clear violation term of usage, there is no reason to pay players who violated the conditions. I assume you have paid this user; as you said, you guys fixed the situation at your own expense. The community cannot force you to pay someone who violates the rules. If a player does not accept the rules, he should not play on that platform.

For clarity, can you at least reveal whether this user gets paid? Sometimes accusers leave the thread silently, and the community never knows what happened. Let's say he was paid, but the thread remains unsolved. Opposite is possible as well.

The violation was not of our terms and conditions. This decision was made by a third party risk management team. We ultimately decided that we don't always agree with other platforms terms of use. Since a player was affected by this through our platform, we felt it was the right thing to do. We are able to learn and change so this type of situation will not happen again.

Wasn't the initial problem that OP raised is a KYC situation? OP tripped over a KYC trigger, which I assume --based on your explanation-- was triggered by a third party risk management team, and when he tried to submit the documents, he can't do it because there is no button to submit them?
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