Oh, I love conspiracy theory. One of my favorite is that we are all actually nurtured by the trees so they can feed on our corpse when we expired... wait, I mean dinosaur. I believe we are all controled by dinosaurs.

Moving to your topic though, I had to ask, were you really suggesting CCP work together with agents all over the world to stole... 50,000 HUF? That's about 160 USD --and I'm being generous with the rate. And then, why do you even went back to localmonero.co despite the long heated debate and hatred you had on the other thread? You accuse them as a scammer who stole your money --which actualy happened because you violate their ToS and it is specified that they're allowed to take the action for such scenario-- and you continue on using their service?

I think we need a little bit more context here. I peeked around their ann thread, the two of them, granted I didn't spent time reading each and every posts on the 100+ page combined. But from what I gathered, they've been around since 2016, their ICO price waa 0.36, jumping to 20 is rather an achievement, IMO, and if today's price is 0.06, that is not necessarily translates as a rug-pull. Hence, more context and proofs.

On the other hand, as I read your screenshots, do I understand correctly that your situation was they're having a swap and you got banned with your outstanding balance annuled due to badmouthing about them?

Your roadmap planned the whitepaper to be published on February --granted, there's still a half momth left on February-- were they delayed? I hope there's a detailed section about the team behind this project, I can't learn much about your team other than theyre 6+ people.

As for the paasive income from renting bed, hotels, etc, what'll happen if players decided they don't want to waste money on lodges, so their avatar would just stand in the lobby of a casino, call it a night, and logged out of the metaverse?

Let's suppose they do want to experience a VR, will you supply the devices too, i.e. producing and distributing them, or will people need to tweak their third party VR, e.g. Oculus, PSVR, to be compatible with yours?

To enjoy these virtual cities, will we need a VR and other special devices? I asked because your opening sentences stated that you tried to combine virtual reality and blockchain and allows people to "live there". I can't imagine how it'll be as immersive feeling without proper equipments

So this is the summary of your entire whitepaper and your longterm goal: to uy home for the nomeless-es in the entire world. ANd how will we achieve tihs? By allocating 3% of every transaction to buy those houses. Pleae tell me there is one or two parts of your strategy that I missed.

I am somewhat certain I misinterpreted your meaning on that part of the sencence,,but I can't see amy other mening. You certainly didn't suggest that the user may reproduce an artist's art and monetize it for their own gain?

Based on the impression i got from reading their website, I am really dubious on the quality and the future of their project. They claimed to be backed by pornhub and they spent tokens daily for prostitute, will use the donation for penile enlargement, etc., typical useless token that tries to be funny but instead got creepy. I wondered what made people interested to mine their token on the first place?

Anyway, I'm not here to rub some salt to your wounds, just pointing out --a bit useless, maybe, given the project itself isn't really worth investing-- that the accusation of virus infected wallet is probably wrong. I run a VirusTotal on their windows executable, and this is the result:

I hereby cordially invite you to visit and defend yourself upon the accusation of plagiarizing several sources for your whitepaper on this thread. I'll be happy to hear your excuses and reasoning.

What happened: Plagiarizing content from several sources for their whitepaper
Scammers Profile Link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3437630
Scammers Website: https://ikia.io/ | archived
Scammers ANN thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5382611.0 | archived
Scammers Whitepaper: https://ikia.io/IKIA_whitepaper01.pdf | Not archived - Waybackmachine seems having an error today, I can't archive the PDF file. Other reliable web archiver that I usually utilize are not capable of archiving a downloadable PDF.

Plagiarized Source:

There are many, some that I caught by random sampling are plagiarizing below sources:

1. https://astoken.co/Whitepaper.pdf
2. https://medium.com/@fatboynft/evolution-of-nfts-c7ed952c2603
3. https://moneytoken.eu/

Some screenshot for easy view:


 

True that tx hash doesn't exactly provide a proof of a wallet ownership, hence both of the victims here are offering a signed message and/or a screenshot of their desktop wallet showing the address. If you ask me, that is actually a win-win solution, you got your prove and could move on from this refunding issue sooner, while they got their right. I really can't fathom the reason why a signed mesage from the original wallet is proof of ownership enough.

I think a little bit faster way to get to the bottom of this issue is by inviting the decision maker or the one specifically handed the task to clear the refunding issue here.

No, I mean do you have a transaction record within the wallet itself? I looked at PhoenixCoin's website and learned that they have a desktop wallet and I assume this is what you use. Within the wallet app, s there a tab that shows transaction history? If there's any, a screenshot of it is probably a proof enough --although signed message is also a strong one, if you ask for my personal opinion.

Two things that I failed to understand:

1. You guys clear your inbox? Why? You use that email address both for personal and crypto so you need to keep them clean? It's personal preference though, so I can't comment further, just curious why bother cleaning your inbox.

2. Not even 1 tx proof, or screenshot or anything, left in your possession? Alltily indeed asked a deposit confirmation email, but the way I see it, that's not necessarily all 1,118 deposits. They just ask for an email showing that the address --a static, non-changing address that they dedicate for you-- is yours. One is enough.

If I may add a third one, is the PhoenixCoin platform has a fund history? Like a proof showing a token successfully mined or moved somewhere? If they have, maybe you can use that.

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As for HodlerCompany, would a screenshot of tx history from the sender side --suppose there is any-- sufficient? What about a signed message from the sender address like what ph4nt0m had tried? It's a valid ownership proofing method that's even acknowledged by this forum. If your aim is just to have a proof that some address is belonged to someone, I think thats a proof of ownership enough

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P.s.: oh, and last, coinman76 stop spamming

The inability to imagine the same scenario as what you have in your mind is not due to the lack of imagination, it is rather the effect of being realistic. You build your entire project on an assumption that only small percentage to no one will dump, that every holders will held their inestment tightly for more than three years, disregarding market, economy, and trend changes. While, realistically speaking, changes in macro and micro economy would affect investments, crypto included. In simpe term, there is a chance that your price will crash as a side effect of bearish market or political activities or whatever situation come ahead. Yet, you confidently insist that your project is safe --small price loses considered-- because you'll crash them in 2025, thus everything will be stable from this point to 25th of December, 2025, no matter what happened ouside of your... err... bubble of very positive assumption. It's okay if you live in the world of imagination, though. No one said it's bad, just... it'll be nice to step out of that bubble and face reality.

Speaking of the opportunity, that you're so sure anyone who recognize it will not waste it so early, what was it, exactly? Just asking to be sure that you have something in your sleeve, because other than the big 2025 planned crash and the devil-know-what plan you implemented to achieve the ultimate goal of 1USD, you barely have any idea of what'll happen next, or even any plan to take after the "big event", as you state yourself:



so, was it too wild and accusative if I say you didn't plan that far?

As for why anouncing a crash of you intended to rug-pull or scam your investor, if we entertain this possibility for a litle while, there are some numbers of scenario that might be the reason. One, in order to gain as much fund you can get in one scam, you'll need to convince as much people as you can that your project is profitable, a sure thing, etc., so they'll invest, believing in you, and not knowing what will happen next, price will drive high, and you prematurely sell the token that's allocated for team during ATH. It's 10% of the total supply, right? With 50% is locked, your 10% allocation turns into 20% of the total circulating supply. It didn't happen to be locked for certain duration, right? How's that for an imagination? Am I still lacking of it?

Ahh.. yes, team. Do I understand correctly that you're team of one? Aside from the designer you had? How about this for banishing the worries that you'll scam: show us yourself. Far as I know, there were no info about you anywhere. No real name, no picture, no background. And you expect people to believe in you and hold unto your words for nearly four years? Maybe your imagination is higher than mine... or you're lacking the sense of realism, or I am correct all along, that you couldn't care less because you;ll leave the project when you got enough.

However, you still didn't answer any of my questions. Wouldn't it be quicker if you simply provide that info here? Which would also be beneficial fo anyone looking for same materials in the future. Nonetheless, I peeked at your discord and did't find any access to your whitepaper there.

Exactly.

That is what wrong here. Ignoring the chance of rug pull and giving yhr best benefits of doubt that you won't run, you made a statement that one of the biggest problem in crypto is the market uncertainty, the not-knowing of when will a price crashed and caught us by surprise. You propose a solution for this with a planned crash, your selling point is a secure investmenrdue to the absence of the not knowing and eliminating the surprise factor.

Then you rectify it by stating that price will still fluctuate. So how exactly your project is different from others?

Accounts Connected: (Note: Banned shown in red / Inactive in Blue / Active)

1. Bordijo  (active)
2. Efarillino  (active)
3. GraphLinq Protocol  (active)
4. Indacoin  (active)
5. Kovinskii  (active)
6. krg-token  (active)
7. Legasches  (active)
8. Nahratsak  (active)
9. Paypolitan  (active)
10. Pwaytoken  (active)
11. Semehov  (active)
12. torex.one  (active)
13. vetohov  (active)

And, courtesy to the contribution of Awaklara for the addition

14. DmitFomin
15. niteroy
16. Rustamm

Proof:
Below are the recorded TX from ethplorer, exhibiting that they do transaction back and forth between each other

Bordijo to Nahratsak 88,732 IFEX
Bordijo to Kovinskii 425 JDC
Bordijo to Efarilino 425 JDC
Bordijo to Nahratsak 425 JDC
Bordijo to Paypolitan 425 JDC
Bordijo to Semehov 425 JDC
Semehov to Kovinskii 3.292 ETH
Kovinskii to Semehov 3.3 ETH
Kovinskii to Nahratsak 706 IFUM
Kovinskii to Nahratsak 2 ETH
Natrashak to Kovinskii 0.1 ETH
Natrashak to Paypolitan 850 IDEX
Natrashak to Paypolitan 0.02 ETH
Semehov to Pwaytoken 0.043 ETH


Miscellaneous:

I suspected another user is connected, OddEvenBets.com, although I am lacking of hard evidence to incriminate them.

As much as I tried to find a hard evidence --tx hash, duplicate username, ec.-that ties the threads owner, OddEvenBets.com, to these cluster of shillers, I can't find any, it's only logical that those accounts above are the sock puppet of OddEvenBets, given they exclusively post on OddEvenBets' threads only. I bumped into a wall, probably because I didn't aware of software and sites to extract such information --I've tried the handy ninjastic, though-- I would really appreciate if anyone can help on this matter.

I wonder if it's necessary to tag these accounts with negative trust due to the nature of their shilling,  bumping, and cheating bounties, as well as raising a newbie flag on OddEvenBets. Anyway, will report these accounts to the list of known alt.

This is why I dont like discussion and announcement(s) to happen on Telegram or other similar "private" media where you need to join just to read what's currently happening.

There was an announcement made by the team on their TG group, you can join it here if you want to, regarding the future of JACS. In short, bleak. They decided to end the project, but promised to compensate their investors and holders in a way, didn't know when.



As for the latest comuniction with them which happens like one week ago, pretty much nothing encouraging

I had to ask, are you a survey platform or a betting platform or what? And, as this has been two months since you first announce your project, what are these "many events" you're talking about?