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2241  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: CAREERCOIN - THE FIRST HR Blockchain Project on: April 13, 2022, 05:32:02 AM
Hello,
thanks for your remark,
I can tell you that at the moment we will focus on the information technology sector for the following reasons:
- It is the one with the greatest growth
- Has the highest turnover
- That's where we have the most expertise
- Since ours is an advanced technology, it is easier to illustrate it to those who already know it
For the future we intend to expand to other sectors, but we prefer to start with this niche.
Regards
CareerCoin Team

Why do I feel like we are talking in circles? The post you gave as an answer is counterproductive toward the development and future of the project, it brought us back to the first question on why would a company pay to get a CV when thousands are readily available for them. From IT sectors, your selling point is rather weak for the reason I lengthy describe on my previous post, and if you expand to other sectors, the selling point itself will became obsolete as I don't think any company would find the appeal to pay for such access.

I'm sorry, but I feel like your questionable decisions are quite a red flag. Kindly prove me wrong so we can talk further about your features and selling points on a morr comfortable environment. You state that your founders are a professional headhunters, can you please let them be doxxed?


Hello and thank you for your reply.
I would like to clarify that CareerCoin is not just a tool reserved for Resume research, but an integrated HR platform, with Training, Development, Coaching and Freelance Services modules.
Our goal is to start from a niche, known and with a high growth rate, and expand into other sectors, such as Finance, Engineering and others.
We want to do things in a better and different way from others, having the ambition step by step, to compete in the future with platforms such as Linkedin.
We want to rely on the web 3.0 by completely changing perspective and putting ourselves on the side of the candidate.
In Europe, do you know that the fee that a head hunter receives to hire a candidate is 20-22% of his gross salary? What does the candidate get in return? In the best of cases a job, recommended by the head hunter who serves the company's interests.
What do we want to do? Attracting the best candidates, rewarding them for social interactions eg. referrals, inserting a CV, offering them a headhunter review service and much more.
If we wanted to raise money easily, we could have created a meme coin, or a similar olympus dao with a 1,000,000% APY, but we have the dream of revolutionizing the world of work and human resources.

I am well aware that you barely mention the doxxed part, so I think I'll pursue this past before moving to other that i have in mind. I believe, if you're truly want to do things better and different from others, that's where you can start. Surely you'll agree that there are a lot of projects with similar themes with you --freelancing platform, training platform, career deepening center, etc.-- and so far I've seen none works so good.

Plus, wouldn't it be an epic irony for a platform which offers a CV database and job matchmaking to not showing their very own CV?
2242  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] TacaliCoin ( Symbol: TACA ) token [ on multi blockchains ] on: April 12, 2022, 05:19:15 PM
I can't access your website, so I can't see if there is further information about your project on it. What I can gather from this very brief description of your project is that you --if we may use the word freely-- asked people to donate you, to fuel whatever obscure business you have in mind and if -emphasize on "if"-- you're succeeded, they'll be rewarded. Otherwise, they lost their fund?


Same for you, think of TACA similar to bitcoin / litecoin ...the rest is not important

Ahh yes, the good old "if bitcoin and other coin can, why can't I?" Let me guess, you want to be anonymous too, just like the unknown founder bitcoin? I can go on and on about how it won't work, pointing out to you the flaws in your brilliant plan to conquer the world, but we should start with the two easiest ones: the glaring fact that you have a nice yellow number below your profile and the ludicrous description of your aim.

Did you really seriously planning to fly people and employ them in space? That space above us? How much do you actually planned to crowdfund, again?

2243  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: CAREERCOIN - THE FIRST HR Blockchain Project on: April 11, 2022, 03:48:55 PM
Hello,
thanks for your remark,
I can tell you that at the moment we will focus on the information technology sector for the following reasons:
- It is the one with the greatest growth
- Has the highest turnover
- That's where we have the most expertise
- Since ours is an advanced technology, it is easier to illustrate it to those who already know it
For the future we intend to expand to other sectors, but we prefer to start with this niche.
Regards
CareerCoin Team

Why do I feel like we are talking in circles? The post you gave as an answer is counterproductive toward the development and future of the project, it brought us back to the first question on why would a company pay to get a CV when thousands are readily available for them. From IT sectors, your selling point is rather weak for the reason I lengthy describe on my previous post, and if you expand to other sectors, the selling point itself will became obsolete as I don't think any company would find the appeal to pay for such access.

I'm sorry, but I feel like your questionable decisions are quite a red flag. Kindly prove me wrong so we can talk further about your features and selling points on a morr comfortable environment. You state that your founders are a professional headhunters, can you please let them be doxxed?
2244  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: CAREERCOIN - THE FIRST HR Blockchain Project on: April 11, 2022, 06:40:55 AM
Ok, so if... it's very easy to get a job offer in IT department as the offers --a company seeking an employee-- are greater than the available applicants, and that the IT people are receiving dozens of contract offers daily, why would they bother applying some more on your platform? Wouldn't they could just sat nicely in their home and job offers come to them?

Unfortunately I didn't invent the wheel. They already do this thanks to linkedin. The problem is that while LinkedIn makes millions of dollars from their data it collects for free, candidates don't earn anything. We want to reward them with a token that can give them the opportunity to take coaching courses, professional training and much more. Furthermore, we have devised a proprietary algorithm that allows to reduce the match time between supply and demand.

The problem is that while LinkedIn available and open themselves to every professions, you limit yourself to IT sector, and I don't think it works in favor to a "more focused" kind of way due to the fact that --according to you, I have no idea what is programmer's actual probability of employment from it-- the IT people didn't really need the platform to get jobs. In other word, we cam safely assume they use the platform just to "brag" about their past employment.

With LinkedIn, companies could consult their applicant's resume through it, any applicant from any job sector, and employee could polish their CV to make it presentable to any companies interested. So, even if the IT worker didn't interested on looking through and polishing their LinkedIn profile for jobs --since jobs come to them on daily basis, all of them-- companies and the LinkedIn themselves still could reap benefits from other sectors --be it an art worker, auditor, chefs, or whatever job imaginable, even post graduate students have and employs LinkedIn to show their academic history.

While for your case, since you're only for IT sectors and the IT sectors themselves didn't really need to utilize a job seeking platform, it'll make sense if the platform only serve benefits for job giver --the IT couldn't and wouldn't care less, they have it coming in bulk on daily basis-- and why would a job giver, a company, utilize a platform where they have to pay to look at a CV while another platform that is free is readily available for them?
2245  Economy / Reputation / Re: Known Alts of any-one - A User Generated List Mk III (2022 Q2) on: April 10, 2022, 05:00:28 PM
I believe it is not a secret that those newbies coming here with half effort on their findings is to chase merits, ...
maybe I'm one of them you mean. almost all merit I got from this thread.
I realize I have not been a good poster on the forums. maybe that's the reason why I'm always not accepted in the signature campaign. but here I study, I read, and I follow discussions in threads that I don't even understand.

even to give my opinion regarding the OP's question regarding the current case I only dare to give my opinion by sending a PM. there is a lack of confidence in my shallow opinion.

one of the reasons I always ask DT members for help with my catch is @The Pharmacist's statement
TL;DR: Tag 'em yourself, but try to get at least one DT member to back you.

before this thread gets any worse. Of course, we are all waiting for @Timelord2067's to create a rule for this problem.

Well no, LOL. For what it worth, I personally think you're belong to the second part of the very sentence you quoted. In fact, a very good example of... "newbies" who did a wholesome research. I think the amount of the merits given to you and your findings on multiple occasions itself is already a proof thst other members also think amd agreed that your contribution is very beneficial to this forum. And please, if you don't mind, share your thoughts here so others can think and probably get another ideas from it. This is an open forum, not North Korea.
2246  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: CAREERCOIN - THE FIRST HR Blockchain Project on: April 10, 2022, 04:03:51 PM
I can't understand why would a company pay to read a CV while they could have tons of them for free --and most ends up on the trashcan-- just by opening a job vacancy. Sure, you could say that the CV you offered will be more accurate with the specifications they asked for candidates, and they can cut their budget of hiring a HR staff because everything is automated by your platform, thus allowing them to allocate their HR payments to pay for the CV you provide, but that's not gonna work in real practice.

CV would only allows HR --be it human or automated-- to filter candidates through their hard skills, but what'll matter for companies and what'll be point used to consider hiring one candidate over another is their soft skill, which can be hard --borderline impossible-- for a robot to verify. In other words, the companies will still need their HR and wouldn't, couldn't, replace them with your system.



Hello,
thanks for your point of view.
I state that one of the founders of the team is a professional HeadHunter.
I can assure you that in the world of Information Technology where the job offer exceeds the demand, it is not so simple and obvious to retrieve a CV.
IT talent receives dozens of contact requests daily. Allowing them to reward them for these contacts and give them the ability to choose who can see their sensitive data is greatly appreciated.
What we want to do is put ourselves on the side of the candidate and not the companies.
We remain available for further comments.
Greetings

Ok, so if... it's very easy to get a job offer in IT department as the offers --a company seeking an employee-- are greater than the available applicants, and that the IT people are receiving dozens of contract offers daily, why would they bother applying some more on your platform? Wouldn't they could just sat nicely in their home and job offers come to them?
2247  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] TacaliCoin ( Symbol: TACA ) token [ on multi blockchains ] on: April 10, 2022, 03:20:15 PM
I can't access your website, so I can't see if there is further information about your project on it. What I can gather from this very brief description of your project is that you --if we may use the word freely-- asked people to donate you, to fuel whatever obscure business you have in mind and if -emphasize on "if"-- you're succeeded, they'll be rewarded. Otherwise, they lost their fund?
2248  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: CAREERCOIN - THE FIRST HR Blockchain Project on: April 10, 2022, 03:11:24 PM
I can't understand why would a company pay to read a CV while they could have tons of them for free --and most ends up on the trashcan-- just by opening a job vacancy. Sure, you could say that the CV you offered will be more accurate with the specifications they asked for candidates, and they can cut their budget of hiring a HR staff because everything is automated by your platform, thus allowing them to allocate their HR payments to pay for the CV you provide, but that's not gonna work in real practice.

CV would only allows HR --be it human or automated-- to filter candidates through their hard skills, but what'll matter for companies and what'll be point used to consider hiring one candidate over another is their soft skill, which can be hard --borderline impossible-- for a robot to verify. In other words, the companies will still need their HR and wouldn't, couldn't, replace them with your system.

2249  Economy / Reputation / Re: Known Alts of any-one - A User Generated List Mk III (2022 Q2) on: April 10, 2022, 07:07:00 AM
[...]
Can I ask the various investigators here what your thoughts are on newbies and jr members posting investigations here?  I don't want to turn this thread into a moderated thread, however, there is growing unrest caused by investigations that have inaccurate information as evidenced this week resulting in my decision to ask Teletalk.org not to post for the remainder of this year (and they stopped posting for over a week) then a brand new user is created immediately thereafter and began posting findings.

PM me, or post your thoughts here.

Not sure if I'm within the circle of this investigators since my contribution for this sector is very low, but my two cents for this issue at hand fall alongside the line of what lovesmayfamilis said

[...]
What can be done here? For DT participants, this is a complete verification of their evidence, and only after verification, a decision is made and a mark in trust management.
 Also, the more newbie investigations get merits, the more rubbish you will see in this thread.

I believe it is not a secret that those newbies coming here with half effort on their findings is to chase merits, thus, "the more newbie investigations get merits, the more rubbish you will see in this thread." although I have to beg to slightly differ, as probably some newbies or low ranked members did a wholesome effort on their investigations.

I am agree that the most efficient way to prevent "merit abuse" on this thread lies on the hand of the merit giver to hold themselves from giving merits so easily, and DT to properly review the reports made both by newbies or other questionable report with weak proof and then properly tag those who deserve red tag.

A slight difference that I have in mind from lovesmayfamilis is the classic reward and punishment system. Merit is what lures newbies to come to this thread giving dubious reports, so let's introduce its counterpart: the punishment.

Not a punishment per se, just a neutral tag on the accounts who frequently give baseless findings. That tag would serve as a side note for proper investigators, BM, and DT to address the urgency of the reports. Newbies with several neutral tags stating they have multiple false reports would indicate they have a tendency to do half assed investigation, and thus their reports didn't deserve an urgency to be checked. On the contrary, they deserve the ignore button if they continue on bringing false-investigation at their hand.

No harm done for those account itself, they're not tagged with red so they can still get access to most things on this forum, their post will just not appeared properly on this thread for those who hit ignore button on their account, thus preventing them from gaining merit in the future from this thread even if those future investigations are deep and thorough. With this, by a "threat" that their efforts will gave them nothing --and even worse, it'll probably hinder them from gaining merit in the future-- hopefully it'll encourage them to double check their "findings" before reporting it.

The ignore button will also saving this thread cohabitant's --read: the investigators, BM, and DT-- time from reinvestigating accounts that is not actually in need to be investigated.
2250  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Haptic - Plagiarizing Medium Article (essentially their WP)... with slight adjus on: April 09, 2022, 02:59:07 PM
If you read the Medium article, instead of focusing on automated tool results, you will learn about the original ideas presented with the project. The mechanism is a spin-off of the Synthetix protocol, minus the synthetic assets part. The project earned an official mentorship from industry veterans, after several long sessions of direct talks with the team. We understand your focus on unveiling scams and projects that can be detrimental to the community in general, but Haptic is not one of those. We used a bit of rephrased text from the paper you mentioned, because it is particularly effective in describing the different kinds of AMM and that is not the focus of the document nor the work itself. The team is focused on development, follow our org on Github to keep track of our efforts.

If you care enough of your project as well as being properly mentored by an industry veteran, you'll consider to just take the essence of the said document that effectively describe different kind of AMM instead of blatantly copying them. I would question the knowledge you gained from this mentor if they allows (lest advise) you to use other people's work. Again, business ethic. As I've previously said here and there, I am a firm believer that there is a difference between "taking an idea from someone and made your own from it" and "stealing people's work".

But let's not dwell just on this matter, as I am sure it is rather a stalemate. You'll insist that you didn't do anything wrong while this forum would lean toward their well spoken official-unofficial rule of plagiarism. As you said that you're well mentored by an industry veteran, I am rather sure that veteran has informed you the importance of credibility, brand equity, trust, etc. as well? That's the business 101. So, I would humbly asked you to grace us with unveiling the team behind this project. If you're really serious with the project and has no intention to scam people, you're certainly wouldn't mind to be doxxed in exchange to gain some of people's trust?
2251  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Scammer ===>> davidTef on: April 09, 2022, 02:41:35 PM
[...]

My recommendation to all: Stay Away From This Forum!

I have to admit, you piqued my curiosity, and given you're still online today, I think you deemed this forum rather not-useless?

One thing to address first --since I don't think you will respond to those eye opening posts made by me and others about how you should start to learn the proper way to use the internet-- is how your post history revealed that you've been once fell into a scammer which made you lost 200$. You have my sympathy on this, given that you're still rather new to the forum and probably didn't know well that dealing with newbies should be done with cautions --and escrow, preferably--, but judging from your next post on other thread --completely unrelated to the topic on that thread-- we can see that you have the tendency to... distribute blames like santa during christmas.

Dear BTCTALK staff!
Instead of blaming member about how they trust other members try to update your forums feature and increase its security! Your forum is full of scammers. I can tell for sure that almost 80% of your members are scammers and you need to do something about that!
You can use some features that other forums are providing!
Stop Blaming the members about how they trust other members. They trust on your forum when they accept to have a deal with your members! You keep asking to use escrow but how about the fees? Who is going to cover it? How much profit is on a deal that you expect us to use escrow and pay its fee?
You need to upgrade your forum features!
Regards

Rikafip even gave you a nice advise, which shows that member of this forum --contrary to your belief-- helps and took care of each of their members, which you simply didn't heed on this most recent case because you're too lazy to look for other escrow --or probably even bother doing anything to make your transaction secure. Probably because, "hey, I can always distribute the blame to anyone on the forum."

Instead of blaming member about how they trust other members try to update your forums feature and increase its security! Your forum is full of scammers. I can tell for sure that almost 80% of your members are scammers and you need to do something about that!
Thing is, you shouldn't trust members, and if you do, then it should be someone with extensive and positive trade history.


Stop Blaming the members about how they trust other members. They trust on your forum when they accept to have a deal with your members! You keep asking to use escrow but how about the fees? Who is going to cover it? How much profit is on a deal that you expect us to use escrow and pay its fee?
Stop blaming forum because you trusted someone that wasn't proven trustworthy by other members. You trusted newbie account with no proven trade history. If you can't afford escrow fees, that are usually in the 1-2% range (from what I can see you have been scammed recently for 200 USD) and person you want to have business with doesn't have good trade history, simply don't do it. No one is forcing you to trade. And if you decide to do it anyway, accept the risk and consequences of your actions.

Since your are on bitcointalk forum, I guess you know that bitcoin is about personal responsibility. So be responsible and don't blame the others for your mistakes.

But all above is not the only reason why I poke you again. It's also because of this:



The situation is, you asked for Ms. Office Home & Business, bumping your thread several times and Sutairu finally approached you by saying that they've PM you on telegram. Being scammed once by Sutairu, nguyentung97 was actually kind enough to warn you that Sutairu is a scammer --tagged the scammer, btw-- so that the same unfortunate fate that fell upon them didn't fell on you too. If you even bother to look at the screenshots, you'll see that nguyentung97 gave a good evidence for your reference on how Sutairu ignored them after they send payment. Your reaction? A rage post.

I changed my mind. Please take your leave from this forum, you and your toxic behavior will do us a favor by leaving us alone. Sayonara.
2252  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Scammer ===>> davidTef on: April 07, 2022, 06:53:45 PM
These excuse are the reasons that made this forum the best place for scammers!! Made this forum a useless forum!

I have never been scammed by any members in other forums like nulled. crackedto etc! you know why? Cause they have better rules and supervision! At least they do not let scammers scams loyal users easily and get away with that!

Its a shame that no one is doing anything about that! No one cares here as far as I can say!

1. Why would I share my personal conversation with all users (Considering that almost half of them are scammers)?! Does the other users have the ability to ban the reported person?!!! No!! Only some admins have that power and I will share my personal conversation only with them!

2. That is something your forums needs to make sure about that by verifying users telegram/discord/whatsapp etc account or something like that! You are allowing the users to provide any shit details without any proof on their profiles! Even everyone can send negative trust feedback to others!!  By the way thanks for explaining this and make the scammers aware of the tricks they can use to fuel people by making this accuse that the telegram account was not mine or some shits like that! Thank you hero member holydarkness!!!
 
3. I trusted the guy because I dont want to believe this forum became useless! But now I believe this the truth! btctalk is the hangout place of scammers due to its low quality rules and low supervision! Also I asked from a legendary member to provide a escrow service and he refused to do it! He said he can not guarantee the sellers keys will work! So?!! If I am not able to even use escrow service then what the f... can I do? What the f... did you provide to make the deals safe?

I just feel sorry for this forum! Thats all I can say!
I dont care if the scammer is going to be banned or not! I dont give a shit anymore! Even if the user is banned, he will create a new account on this useless forum!

My recommendation to all: Stay Away From This Forum!

First of all, never heard of those forums, but a quick google search told me that both forums are a cracking forum. Not gonna questions your morals here for using cracked programs --and from your post history, it seems that is your line of works-- because hey, who hasn't ever used a free cracked program? But, comparing a cracking community and an open crypto forum is like comparing an apple to a spaghetti. If you deemed this forum useless though, you are free to leave. Kindly take comfort in the thought that took place in each of our heart that you'll be sorely missed.

One thing that you should bear in mind though, this forum didn't just let scammers run free scamming their loyal members. The very board where you post this thread is the living proof of it. They gave a space for people to report the scam attempt and if the accusations is proven to be true, actions will be taken. There are a lot of people dedicating their time to hunt for scammers and report them here properly. They dedicate their day to do a dig on projects to prevent other people from being scammed. So before you leave for good, please withdraw that harsh and heart stabbing soul clenching statement that hurts our core so deeply.

And what shameful is, IMO, how you get from one to 180 just because someone asked for more details. People on this forum will do something about the case that is, apparently, a mortal thorn to your flesh. But we are not passing judgement simply by a statement without evidence, a hearsay if you prefer the more official term. There are protocols to be taken, and I am rather sure this applies to a lot of platform, even the judicial system of the world itself will not persecute someone just because someone else said they stole from him without proper evidence. Certainly you'll agree that it's not fair if I came to the police in your country --wherever that is-- and ask you to be jailed because you stole something from me, and they did exactly that without requiring me to provide details and evidences?

If the two forums you said above, who --if I may conclude from your apple-to-spaghetti comparison, protect their members by blindly throwing ban hammer to anyone simply by a hearsay without asking for proper evidence, I would advise to stay away from those forum instead of the ones who took proper course like this forum.

Now, for point number 1, why should you share your personal conversation with all users --not all, actually, just a handfull or even nonexistent according to your earlier statement-- I'll invite you to be properly acquainted with a term called "rule" and "guidelines". We live in a world that follows rules and guidelines, it is what prevent chaos falling upon us. As for this case, I'd like you to meet forum's rule and guideline to report a scam. Kindly allow me to quote the guideline for you so you can see them easier:

Scam Report Format

Code:
[b][color=black]What happened:: [/color][/b]

[b][color=black]Scammers Profile Link: [/color][/b]

[b][color=black]Reference Link: [/color][/b]
[b][color=black]Amount Scammed: [/color][/b]
[b][color=black]Payment Method: [/color][/b]
[b][color=black]Proof of Payment: [/color][/b]
[b][color=black]PM/Chat Logs: [/color][/b]
[b][color=black]Additional Notes: [/color][/b]
Copy and paste it in new thread then fill all data.

Scam report example:

What happened::
I saw escrow.ms's lolipop thread 4 days ago and placed a order for 1000 lolipops. After I sent him payment, he just went offline and never came back. I think he's a big liar and a scam artist. Stay away from him.

Scammers Profile Link:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=76380

Reference Link:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=260070.0

Amount Scammed: 2 BTC/$176.40
Payment Method: Bitcoins
Proof of Payment:
http://blockchain.info/tx/b80f35cebae98fcbd8eb0e2eaea6def41f90ad01086ad830ba23094ac3c3b165

PM/Chat Logs: https://i.imgur.com/8UbLVSc.png
Additional Notes: I advise you to not deal with this user until this dispute is resolved.

Some Tips


Use escrow and be safe.

I've nicely leave something in red for you to consider. If you still insist to not giving the evidences and
choose ask for forum moderator to ban the said user because no one have the power to do anything for that thorn in your flesh though, I wonder why you even bother wasting your time to create this thread? You're more than welcome to directly PM the mods. The mod for this board will be Cyrus. Just... don't act so surprised if he asked you to provide evidences or follow the proper protocol by filing you accusation on an accusation board --yes, this very thread, so it'll be easier to just gives the evidence here. Mods of this forum are not the ones who passes ban hammer blindly, they're not a fan of whack-a-mole.

Number two, I believe there is this notification system on forum's PM that warns people to be careful if they get a message from newbies. This is why they have rank system, which further reinforced by the rule of merit, to make it harder for people to randomly create tens of thousands of account and rank them up for the sole purpose of building credentials to scam others. A small tip: verifying users' telegram is very easy on this forum. Check their post history, there is a chance that they posted their tg handler somewhere on some thread. If they didn't, PM them. A "hello, are you the tg handler of --let's say-- @iamnotascammer who PM me on telegram?" is more than enough to get the ties of the account and the tg verified. It's called due diligence. If you didn't do your DD on each of your transaction and ends up being scammed by someone at one point just because they say they're from this forum, let alone the one with almost nonexistent activity and whose account has been dormant for so long, wouldn't it be cruel to blame it on the forum?

For the tricks, though, oh please, dont turn your recklessness into a blind rage and blame it on someone, nor put words to other people's lips. I didn't educate anyone of a very brilliant and mindblowing scam method, it's an old trick used by many, claiming someone else's account or credentials as their own to scam people. If this is new news for you, I'd firstly congratulate you for finally moving out from the rock you've been under for so long, followed by an advice to broaden your horizon.

Number three, hmm... you put me in a very tight and difficult dilemma, a legendary member refuses to provide escrow service for a logical and acceptable reason --he can not guarantee the sellers keys will work. Oh dear Luci, what a very difficult situation indeed. Now I can see your difficult situation. If only there are other escrow services on this forum, oh dear, not even a list or two, clearly it is forum's fault to make our so difficult to get a secure transaction which made people ended up being scammed.

See? My last sentence is called a sarcasm, in case that is a new thing for you too. And the content of the sentence is what we call a DD. If you didn't do your DD, it's your fault. We are here to help as best as we can. If you refuse to get the help by following the proper format though, there's nothing we can do. One thing you can do for sure is to man up and own the blame instead of throwing and sharing them to as many entities as you can. This is not a black friday sale, no one interested and enthusiastic enough to be blamed for something that's entirely not their fault, or to be the punching bag of your very own incompetence.

So this is the summary: if you want to file a scam accusation, there is a format that is rather required and preferred by the forum, which in it, includes the action of giving evidences. We didn't persecute blindly here. Also, please don't keep your hopes high. The account --as previously and repeately stated-- that's supposed to be the scammer's account is a newbie account. Best we can give you is banning the user, but as the account itself awfully looks like a disposable account, it won't affect the scammers too much. Suppose the account is indeed scamming you, the real owner is probably has hundreds of other accounts. That is why, my sweet sugar cube, practice cautions whenever you trade with newbie accounts. The forum has facilitate best security it can offer, the decision to utilize the tools provided is entirely lies on the common sense of each of the user.

P.s.: i know what'll probably crossed your mind while reading this nice rant of mine. I've safe you some time, don't bother typing it again, I've state what's on your mind --and other people I've wronged, either by exposing their scam attempt or giving back their nicely arranged rage post that's wrongly addressed-- on my personal message, right there on the left part of this post, below my stat. You're welcome... and adieu, in case you still deemed this forum is not worthy enough of your mighty presence.
2253  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: [WARNING] UKAN Plagiarized Whitepaper on: April 07, 2022, 04:12:59 PM
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Well let's put it that way,
First we didn't take any advantage on the supply, 50% were burned and 50% were locked, no lucky airdrop of any kind to no one, the pre investors airdrops were made after PURCHASING tokens from the pool.
But what you seemed to miss here is the most important part, let say that Ukan Token would rise up like the SHIB did, that Ukraine would endorse it and that the entire world would buy Ukans,
Well at the end of the day Ukraine would have 50% of 18 Billion dollars - which is 9 billion dollars.
Now, I agree with you that a lot of pre investors and on-the-go purchasers will make a lot of profits but who cares? the fact that UKRAINE will have 9 billion dollars is enough to us.
It's certainly one of the best ways of giving, but its definitely the smartest way.
We are proud of our project, proud of the initiative and will prove you wrong in the aftermath.
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Mikoshi.



Let's see... how many percentage of token do you actually have?

50% for Mr. Zelenski
50% locked for LP
50% burned
50% for the Ukrainian --which hopefully worth 9B dollars--

So you have 200% token? What?

And how on earth do you have the president's personal wallet address? Is this published for public somewhere?
2254  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Scammer ===>> davidTef on: April 07, 2022, 03:56:01 PM
Can't see why you need to wait for a legendary member to share your evidence. If you raise an accusation against someone, you should as well brings the supporting evidences ti back up your claim with or without having someone to ask.

Two, how sure are you that the tg username who scammed you is the owner of the account in reference and not someone else using the inactive account as their... "collateral"? The said account's last activity was five months ago, just day after his account is created.

Three... why do you even trust someone with such details --newbie, one day old account, never to be seen on the forum anymore, most likely an alt account of someone-- to have a transaction with?
2255  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: What can we Do to Reduce Ponzi scheme? on: April 04, 2022, 05:45:09 PM

Exactly like what's been buzzing on my mind since I visited this thread. The very first thing I do was clicking that link above as I thought the numbers were somewhat a fancy ref link --now I don't think it is. I've downloaded their whitepaper, haven't read them as my mind refuses to work anything harder than typing right now, but from what I can gather strolling through their site, they didn't offer a ponzi scheme. At best, it was a metaverse project doomed to wither in a month or two.

I can understand that OP probably mistook their airdrop rule as a ponzi, though. Side note: it isn't.



A little TIL for OP, ponzi will require new participants to put some money into the project and the money will be used to pay the earlier member's "bonus", it goes on and on until the last participants suffered all the losses when the platform stopped working. The perfect example is that goldmiineng site, you're required to deposit 3000 naira as a sign up fee and will be rewarded 2,000 naira for each person you referred. That 2,000 comes from the fee paid by your friend itself. While airdrop, well airdrop. You lose nothing but time --if I may add my personal opinion, you'll also lose some of your pride since you're kinda "begged" your friends to sign up for you just for pennies-- no money involved as you, as well as the people you referred to, didn't have to pay anything upfront.
2256  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Haptic - Plagiarizing Medium Article (essentially their WP)... with slight adjus on: April 04, 2022, 05:03:49 PM
LOL. Elysian Finance is also involved in this shady scheme? Both project had bounties under julerz12 management, and after this topic, they suddenly got some issues with manager. Both projects are caught violating rules. To me this is enough to tag as “better avoid”, if such childish problems already appear on such early stage. Futher it goes, worse it will be.

From what I can gather, julerz12 took a swift and justified decision by withdrawing himself from a project under an active accusation the instance it came to his awareness. On his defense (stated on his bounty group) it's against his policy to works with questionable ethic that's violate forum rules: plagiarism. And I'll have to strongly agree with this decision, it's an even more questionable ethic for a BM if they continue on working with a project that's proven to violate forum rule. Far as I know, julerz12 is more than willing to re-cooperate once the accusation cleared --which, by the way, I think we have to be satisfied with the classic final words of the defeated, "If you want to insist with your narrative, go ahead." because Haptic didn't give their rebuttals even though they're online today, I'll wait for two more days before concluding that they admit the plagiarism and tagging their account.

In retaliation to this, Elysian Finance --the same dev with Haptic-- kicked him out from their contract by reason that julerz12 unilaterally terminate his employment with Haptic. Ironically, they themsleves were unilaterally terminate their contract with the BM. On their defense, they tried to negotiate with julerz12 but couldn't meet at middle point. From julerz12 side, there's not much of a negotiations. I think we can judge which side is true to their words, given one side deleted their statement immediately.

I would love to do a DD on Elysian, but given their published documents are beyond minimal, and their website didn't contain anything that can be researched --which, those characteristics itself speaks volumes of the quality of their project-- there's not much I can do to prove whether the project worth investing or not, although i leaned toward the later.
2257  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Haptic - Plagiarizing Medium Article (essentially their WP)... with slight adjus on: April 02, 2022, 09:07:12 AM
Like we mentioned, the Medium article is only a surrogate of the original publication, which hasn't been shared publicly yet. We are big fans of the paper mentioned and references will be clear (and due) on the final publication. We never meant to elude plagiarism detectors by employing the writing style you see throughout the Medium article. Again, we acknowledge that some parts are very similar to the document you mention as a reference, the scope of which is to describe the mathematical properties of various existing AMM algorithms. Haptic is about reducing the impact of impermanent loss, and we produced plenty of original content and smart contract code. Our Twitter account exists since a while, but the project was conceived last summer and we started developing it under the #L222 mentorship program,during January 2022.
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Allow me to also quote the sentence referred as "like we mentioned" to give a clear picture

Our Medium launch article is a shortened version of our upcoming whitepaper, which is heavily influenced by the academic literature and references it properly.

To make it clear, you're saying that the content of your medium will be on your final WP as well... or in other words, the content that exactly plagiarize content from the paper referenced above will be on your whitepaper?

In addition, here is a report from Grammarly.com:



Anything less than 15% is within perfectly reasonable usage.  If you want to insist with your narrative, go ahead.

I am not a paid member of grammarly, so the plagiarism checker is rather inaccessible for me. If any, the result I got actually works against your favor as grammarly --the plagiarism checker you prefer to defend yourself-- define your document as "significantly plagiarized"



But please amuse us, if we have to go your way, does the 8% detected includes the parts that you've tailored to make a slight difference --i.e.: the word "2020" to "2021", or removing two or three words in several sentences-- or you've been kind and fair enough to re-adjust those tailored parts to match the corresponding parts on the original document? Please note that when I said "tailored" it doesn't mean you paraphrasing them by taking the essence of the paragraph and sentences and turn them into your own, you rather --as I said previously-- selectively redacted one or two sentences, or if we may borrow tbct_mt2's words, a fake paraphrasing.

I somewhat think the percentage will be much higher than 8%.

Although... in the other hand, it does not really matters. If you deemed copying something from someone else by a reason --you type and I quote-- "Anything less than 15% is within perfectly reasonable usage.", I think you're in a serious need to run a course on business ethic. I would also suggest you to familiarize with the list of forum's unofficial-official rules, I've nicely selected and highlighted some of them which specifically talking about plagiarism:

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These are the most common rule violations that newbies make. There are other rules than these.

  • Plagiarism: If you copy some text from somewhere, then you should have a good reason for it, and you must link to the source. Doing otherwise is plagiarism. Changing a few words around doesn't matter. If we find that you plagiarized, then you absolutely will be permanently banned, even if we find it years after you did it.
[...]

Theymos' insight on plagiarism:

In general, I'm all for being lenient. There are users who have been temp banned many times but still haven't been permabanned because their contributions outweigh their misbehavior. I actively disbelieve in the idea of a "rule of law" where hard rules exist and are strictly applied across the board as if we're all robots. Every case should be considered individually in the context of the forum's mission.

Plagiarism is what gets people permabanned, not just copying. Plagiarism is copying with the intent of passing the work off as your own. In essentially all cases, plagiarism deserves a permaban because it usually proves definitively that the person is here for the wrong reasons: to fill up space in order to get paid, not to actually discuss or contribute. If someone was able to convince us that they were plagiarizing just to eg. impress people rather than to fill up space, then a lesser ban of a few months might instead be warranted. But this has never happened AFAICR. (Arguments based on plausible deniability aren't going to work; we don't need to prove that you had the motive we see in your actions.)

If you treat posting as a job, a chore, then you must live in fear, since the forum is not made for you. In this case, you need to blend in as someone who actually cares, but plagiarism will immediately out you, and producing a mountain of useless posts will also eventually be noticed, if more slowly. If you do actually care, then this will be obvious in your posts (and probably your merit score), and you will have nothing to fear from moderators; even allegations of plagiarism will be doubted when seen in the context of your other posts.

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in extreme cases could be copyright theft?

Plagiarism is almost always a copyright violation which could conceivably get the poster in a lot of trouble, but it's not a bigger legal issue for the forum than anything else. (Using the forum to violate copyright is never allowed, though.)

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when copying and pasting from the net can it lower google rankings? and internal copy and past could do the same thing?

That's not a particular concern of mine.

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even memes may soon constitute copyright theft

Only in the EUSSR.

Or, if we want to go somewhere more worldwidely accepted, the Merriam-Webster's definition of plagiarism

Definition of plagiarize

transitive verb
: to steal and pass off (the ideas or words of another) as one's own : use (another's production) without crediting the source

intransitive verb
: to commit literary theft : present as new and original an idea or product derived from an existing source

If your intention is truly just to make a summary of a more complex document --which, in it, also includes the content on the summary, i.e. the plagiarized content-- I can't see why can't you cite the source on medium. You literally just need to add a sentence stating this on the lower part of your article. For me, this action is more to a caught-red-handedly copying a material than submitting a paper that's heavily influenced and inspired by a document you've been a big fan of.



Talking about WP... this is a separate topic yet related to your case. Long story short, upon submitting this accusation thread, a little bird (if we may call a reputable member of this forum as a "little bird") tipped me to look at a project called "Elysian Finance" who openly admitted that they share the same dev as your project. Interestingly, this project were once violated forum rules too, just like you violate the plagiarizing rule. On their case, it seems they tried to incentivizing post. And, just like you, they also decide --and somehow seemingly rather proud of-- to be anonymous as well as having a bare minimum website.

Now, for the WP, they promised to deliver a WP "some time later". True to their words, they took "later" rather seriously as it's been more than one and a half months and they are yet to deliver the document, and it is worth mentioning that their fair launch is in... two weeks! Oh dear Lucifer, it almost seems like they're not planning to give anyone adequate time to read and do research on their WP before the launch. Red flag. Red flag. Anon team? Also red flag. Shared the same team with a project that plagiarize document? Umm... black flag?



Funnily, they later removed this self confessions through edit

2258  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Haptic - Plagiarizing Medium Article (essentially their WP)... with slight adjus on: April 01, 2022, 06:31:37 PM
Hello,

We appreciate the investigative work done by the community and we think it's very important to maintain a clean ecosystem. Our Medium launch article is a shortened version of our upcoming whitepaper, which is heavily influenced by the academic literature and references it properly. Some phrasing might be directly inspired by the influential "the Homogenous Properties of Automated Market Makers". Our presence on Telegram,  as we only have an announcement channel.  Our main focus is on Discord.  General lack of information is due to the fact that the project is in its early phase. We are available to clarify any misunderstanding.


At least you admitted and acknowledge that the article is written by yourself and you have ful awareness of the content, it's not the work of a freelancer who copy and paste articles without your knowledge etc. etc.

With that established, that you deliberately copied the content, two things that I think we can all agree. One, it's a --probably written somewhere-- rule that plagiarizing content is heavily frowned upon on this forum. The scam accusation board filled with these cases and most of them didn't ends well as most project who plagiarized contents from others would ends up as scam. It breaks down to the fact that if you really serious wit your project, you'll put efforts on it. Tl;dr: you won't plagiarize.

Two, i think anyone that ever had the privilege to get a higher education would know there is a difference(s) on "heavily influenced" and "intentionally copying". A project that's heavily influenced by older project could have the same theme or same features, but it doesn't mean they'll have the same wording. Your project, however, seemingly to deliberately change wordings, delete and remove a section or two --read: extremely poorly paraphrasing-- to make it rather difficult for plagiarism checker to find the similarities.

As for your claim that your project is in early phase, allow me to bring "exhibit F", a screenshot fromy our twitter page showing your account has been created since almost one year ago and publishes tweets in November. Were you saying that after one year, not only you're failed to make a significant milestone worth announcing and a website with adequate info, you also could only publish a paper which steal, oops... i mean "influenced by" content from a published article without even giving the authors credits? How is this showing credibility?

2259  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DeFi] Haptic - Increase capital efficiency and reduce impermanent loss on: April 01, 2022, 11:07:54 AM
plagiarism detected


Hi, I take a look at your medium page, which --it seems to me-- works as your litepaper and I find them copying materials from a published paper back in 2020. I'll appreciate if you can give an explanation here
2260  Economy / Scam Accusations / Haptic - Plagiarizing Medium Article (essentially their WP)... with slight adjus on: April 01, 2022, 11:03:44 AM
What happened: Plagiarizing their published Medium article which essentially works as their mini whitepaper

Scammers Profile Link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3453444
Scammers Website: https://haptic.finance/ | archived
Scammers ANN thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5390207.0 | archived
Plagiarized Documents: medium page | archived
Original source: "The Homogenous Properties of Automated Market Makers"

Additional notes:

They seems to prefer discord as their means of communication. Being not a discord guy myself, I can't check how's the discussion happened there. Their official telegram is effectively non functional with zero update since the creation date, though. Same fate happened to their website which literally lacking of any useful info. No company profile, no team, just a page listing their social media.


Some screenshot for easy view:

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Edit: notifying and inviting dev through their ann thread
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