They have an "unofficial" thread here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1766679.0

My experience and thoughts here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1766679.msg19047422#msg19047422

The Devs Response here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1766679.msg19075387#msg19075387

TLDR; not for me

I have been investigating mSIGNA wallet for the last day or so... and the whole MultiSig stuff really makes things difficult. Especially if the wallet rebroadcasts transactions.

Can you post the transaction ID for your old stuck transaction? I think the only "easy" solution at this point is to try and get it confirmed using the ViaBTC TX accelerator... and then sending whatever coins you have left (with a big fee) to another wallet.

Failing that, have you tried "disconnecting" the wallet... delete the transaction and then letting the transaction fall out of (all) the mempools. Make sure you cannot find it on any block explorer (check blockchain.info, blockcypher, blocktrail, btc.com, blockr.io and any other explorers you can find). Once it isn't showing on ANY explorer, try and connect and see if the wallet syncs up and you have no unconfirmed transactions showing. NOTE: Do NOT "connect" the wallet until you have managed to delete the transaction and it is no longer in any mempool.

From there, you should hopefully be able to create a new transaction that sends all your coins to a more user friendly wallet (with an "appropriate" fee)... and then dump mSIGNA...

Was your "account" set up as 1 of 1?

Given his post history...


I would advise that you do not engage with this user. He is most likely trying to get you to pay for a "free" service... ie. The ViaBTC TX Accelerator...  which you can use yourself... for free.

Seems there are more and more people starting to offer "acceleration services"

Instead of using the portable app... you just use "new/restore" and give the wallet a different name from your original wallet... restore your seed. Then make sure you wait until it is fully sync'd... check the little icon in the bottom right corner is green dot and not blue arrows.

(you can click the icon and check that the block number matches the latest block mined to be sure)

If all that is good,  and you still domt have the correct number of coins displayed, it's possible that you somehow ended up with coins in an address past the gap limit... so the restored wallet just hasnt scanned those addresses.

Multiply BTC/kB by 100,000 = sats/Byte

Divide sats/Byte by 100,000 = BTC/kB

B = Byte
kB = kilo-Byte (which in Bitcoins = 1,000 Bytes)

easiest for fast confirm is set Electrum to "Dynamic Fees" (Tools -> Preferences -> Fees) and move fee slider all the way to the right.


If calculating manually (Not recommended as it can be easy to make a mistake and pay too low fee) then goto www.bitcoinfees.21.co and check for recommended fee. Multiply sats/byte fee by transaction size (click preview in Electrum)... that is the total fee to use.

hard to say as your transaction has now confirmed.

The fee was possibly on the lowish side at 220... "recommended" has been over 300 for a few days...

Child Pays For Parent is a way for you to try and get unconfirmed parents to confirm by spending the unconfirmed output with a MASSIVE fee so miners will mine both transactions into a block... can be useful in some situations as long as you understand what you're doing and the fee is calculated correctly.

AFAIK, Electrum does a fairly good job of working out an appropriate CPFP fee... as long as you're aware that it will seem outrageously large as it needs to effectively cover 2 transactions

No, it doesn't. Because they ignore those transactions and the accelerator says "Transaction does not exist" if you try and accelerate a transaction with an unconfirmed parent.

You have to go to the start of the chain and accelerate the first one... wait for the first one to get mined in a block... accelerate the next one in the chain... wait for that to get mined... accelerate the next one... etc etc etc...

Nope... that fee is still way to low... The current recommended fees are much higher (and have been for a number of days now):


Goto this link: http://www.mocacinno.com/feecheck.php?txid=3fdbcc3bedf6a5c109755f295dd10d5243c36e968b791de25cff00a424e698f4

It has a number of options available to you for getting your transaction confirmed (both free and paid options)

That is a very smart plan... avoiding small payments is the best move going forward...

To fix your current issue, you can always try a "consolidation transaction"... send ALL your coins to one address in a single transaction to create a single large UTXO... make sure the transaction fee is set to at least 10 sats/byte (10000  sats/KB, 0.0001 btc/kB) to meet their minimum fee requirements and then try and get it accelerated via the ViaBTC TX Accelerator. I'd be tempted to go a bit larger and aim for 50 or 100 sats/byte just so you have some wiggle room if you calculate wrong.

PROS: Turns all your dust into one big UTXO so future transactions will be smaller size = less fees.

CONS:
Risky - if you mess up the fee calculation and it ends up too small and you can't use the ViaBTC TX Accelerator your coins could get stuck for a number of days...
Frustrating - you have to stalk the accelerator to try and get your tx submitted because the accelerator is always so full...
Slow - You have to wait for ViaBTC to then mine a block once it is submitted successfully.

You cannot export from Breadwallet to Electrum directly. Basically you just send the coins in a normal transaction (use a BIG fee to avoid it getting stuck! ).

The way the wallet words are used is different between some wallets, so the same words in MultiBit HD and Breadwallet generate the same addresses... but in Electrum will generate different addresses.

Your fee was way too low. The current recommended fees are much higher (and have been for a number of days now):


Goto this link: http://www.mocacinno.com/feecheck.php?txid=a43aa610b57a0b71f81623f65c5e646ed558f25c89811e538d59b8f600ab528c

It has a number of options available to you for getting your transaction confirmed (both free and paid options)

Keep trying with ViaBTC... you have to submit right at the start of a new hour when they reset the 100 slots...

Unfortunately, it also has a low fee of only ~92 sats/byte

You'll need to try and use the ViaBTC TX Accelerator or maybe try a "Child Pays For Parent" transaction to get it confirmed.

But at least the mystery is solved

Your understanding of CPFP is slightly incorrect...

You're not attempting to send the transaction again... what you're doing is creating a brand new transaction, that spends an unconfirmed output from the first transaction that is in an address that you control, with a MASSIVE fee... such that the average fee for both transactions is large enough to entice a miner to include both of them in a block to claim the reward.

In the CPFP, you can send to wherever you like (including back to an address you own)... the idea is that you're just making a child that is so attractive to the miners, that they will also confirm the "low fee" parent just to get the big payoff.


For the record, sending the same transaction again with a higher fee is either "Replace-By-Fee" aka RBF... or a "Double Spend" if you didn't have RBF enabled.

Also, make sure you have your upper and lower case and characters correct. Bitcoins purposely uses Base58 to try and decrease the possibility of incorrect character interpretation... but if you're typing in a key manually, you might just be using the wrong character. For instance, there are no 0's (zeros) or O's (Uppercase o)... there are only lower case o. No Uppercase i, only lower case i. No lowercase l, only uppercase L...

https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Base58Check_encoding#Base58_symbol_chart

Fair enough... "attempted to spend"... happy now?

Semantic games aside, it doesn't change the fact that having a wallet that doesn't show any unconfirmed transactions that you've created and broadcast to the network is, quite simply, a ridiculous idea...

I think you might find that you can't just export the priv key from mSigna and move to another wallet...

From a (very) quick look at it, it seems like it is designed to generate n-of-m MultiSig addresses... so it starts generating "Pay to Script Hash" aka P2SH addresses starting with a 3... as opposed to the more common "Pay to PubKey Hash" aka P2PKH addresses that start with a 1...

The upshot of all this, is that you can't just import the wallet words or Bip32 Master privkey from mSigna to another wallet... or at least, I don't think you can... as the requirements for spending from a ScriptHash address are that "the recipient must provide a script matching the script hash and data which makes the script evaluate to true."

I think your best bet is to just create a new wallet using a more "user-friendly" wallet like Electrum... and then just send all your coins from mSIGNA to an address in your new wallet.

No transfer... just the wallet words are required to restore to Breadwallet

You really shouldn't need to do a CPFP transaction, as your transaction has already confirmed. Honestly not sure why Electrum is still saying "low fee". Can you right click the transaction, select "details" and just confirm the transaction ID.

Electrum is generally pretty solid, so for it to still say low fee, I'm wondering if it is a different transaction that is "low fee" and now stuck.

Your earlier transaction was: 8ef53c0af0d9e4994f4ca744ab7241acc5b7ead4eaad5e453036d1ef9b40dbcd

please confirm this ID is the same as the one that still says "low fee"

So you can basically create an infinite amount of transactions... to an infinite number of addresses... and have no real idea of what you've spent or who you've sent to... or what is likely to confirm.

Sounds like a great system... /s

Sorry, can't help with that... no real experience with OSX. Although I see some mention in Google search results for recent malware posing as an OSX update that compromises your entire machine... "OSX Dok".  And there are reports from last year that apparently allowed hijacking of Facetime... but like I said, I'm a Windows user... so can't really help with malware removal on a Mac.