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1881  Economy / Speculation / Re: What price you expect bitcoin by 30 September? on: September 27, 2017, 08:24:14 PM
What price you expect bitcoin by 30 September?
According China Exchanges Shut down and China miners Ban

Despite the fact that China seems to be trying to get bitcoin out of its country i think that a bull market that happens next week is possible.

Price could well recover to more than $4k by the end of the month. Perhaps even more by a couple of hundred dollars. I think that we are going to mainly see a lot of sideways movements at least until November.

It won't be less than $3k by the end of the month either, though.

 
Bitcoin is resisting to go down and now is trading above 4150 it seems the bad news have stopped and bitcoin is slowly regaining its price, however I do not think this is going to last for a long time, as we get closer to November we are going to get even more turbulence since the date of the hard fork is getting closer and I do not see either side willing to back down on their positions.
1882  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: What cryptocurrency should I invest in with 50 USD? on: September 27, 2017, 06:28:39 PM
I honestly don't think that the amount of the investment should affect what you invest in.

Sure, if you invest in an altcoin that's early on, you might see higher percentage gains, but you should really do the research and just invest in what interests you.

If you like btc, buy $50 of it; if you like eth, buy $50 of it.

That being said, XRP is really cheap right now and you could get a decent amount for $50. Some don't like how centralized it is, but I do think it will have pretty impressive growth in the future.
The amount of money matters, if he is going to invest 50 dollars now but he has plans too invest another 50 dollars in the next two weeks and so on, then it may be a good idea to choose a safe coin, something in the top 10, but if he is only going to invest 50 dollars in the foreseeable future then I think his only chance to make any kind of money will be to invest in an ico and hope for the best.
1883  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Views on UNIKOIN? The Mark Cuban/Ashton Kutcher backed sports crypto? on: September 27, 2017, 05:28:07 PM
So this is how the coins will be distributed.


Total Supply   1 Billion, of which 20% are for Token Sale.
The rest are allocated to a Team Pool (10%), a Unikrn Betting Reserve (15%), Marketing & Partnerships (15%), Development & Contractors (20%), and Company Cold Storage (20%).


Any thoughts on this?
Then it is a scam simple as that, I do not have a problem if the devs keep 10% or something similar because that also means they want the project to be successful but they are going to keep 80% of the coins? Then that is completely ridiculous, I hope the coin fails and all those big shots lose their money, it is incredible they think they can get away with that.
1884  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: can bitcoin wallet be hacked by hackers? on: September 26, 2017, 04:01:59 AM

anticipation that I do on the computer to prevent hacked.
I installed internet security with antivirus. do not surf on many web, or do not install the app before it is tracked with antivirus. that's what I usually do. just prevention.
Not always intruders try to steal the Pvt keys by Malwares but sometime there is inside job. I will recommend to keep a hardware wallet or at least your Pvt keys on a offshore PC.
yes, like today, a lot of phising sites or links has been sent to every users here in these forum. they even use slack to spread the fake links via sending email. they try to steal your wallet, all you funds you work hard for. so better be careful when opening a link
I have noticed that as well especially on slack, I have received a multitude of phishing links, I received 4 in the last week, most of them have to do with Ethereum, however while phishing links are very annoying at the same time no one should fall for this, most of the time they ask for your private key and everyone must know that you should never share your private keys with anyone or you are going to lose your money.
1885  Economy / Economics / Re: What should I do ? Your suggestions please. on: September 26, 2017, 01:23:46 AM
If you have 50 ethereum in your wallet and if you bought 260 dollars each. You cant lose money why? Because the price of ethereum as of now is 300 dollars and you earn profit not lose your money. I suggest hold your ethereum because for sure it will increase again the price. Or you can join to the ICO have ethereum investment and for sure it will grow but be careful while investing in ICO.
You are missing the point ETH may be at 300 dollars, but the price in dollars is not important because it is very likely that he bought that ETH with BTC and ETH has been crashing in terms of bitcoin since bitcoin outpaced ETH growth after the hard fork so if the op converts to BTC now he will lose a lot of money in terms of BTC, he needs to hold in the hope ETH goes up once again, that may be possible but it is going to take a lot of time.
1886  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Binance: $BNB The Future of Exchanges. on: September 26, 2017, 12:09:15 AM

China has repeatedly sought to block Bitcoin's growth, but these are just speculative maneuvers.
The biggest farm miners are Chinese, they control price growth; these are just power games to buy Bitcoin lower.

When everything is over, Bitcoin will grow again, and Binance exchange will resume as strong a month ago.
It has almost all international customers, only 15% are Chinese.
All these maneuvers seems to have something else behind the scenes or at least that is what I believe, if the Chinese government really wanted to ban bitcoin they could do that in a heartbeat so I wonder if they are so against it, why they do not do it? So to me all of those threats, news and FUD are nothing but an attempt to manipulate the bitcoin market and obtain benefits that way.

you can't ban something just because you don't like it, and it doesn't happen in a heartbeat if probably a large portion of the government itself have invested in cryptos
Which is exactly my point, they are invested in crypto as well, they want to have their cake and eat it too, they want to earn a lot of money through bitcoin, altcoins and even icos but they do not want the general population to have the same benefits as well, besides since they know before hand what are going to be their decisions since they are the ones taking them, they have inside information of how the bitcoin market is going to move and they can get benefits that way.  
1887  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: The next 100x-1000x coin? on: September 25, 2017, 09:32:13 PM
Even if I think the Electroneum coin is a good project what else did you expect from a global moderator of their own boards? Of course they are going to think the project they are in is good if they did not thought that then they will not be there, so if you are going to post such threads about the potential future of that coin at least give to us posts coming from neutral sources that are more likely to remain impartial.
1888  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Are We Dead Without China? on: September 25, 2017, 07:47:38 PM
Do not worry, without china bitcoin will continue to be brilliant, south korea and japan are getting active and massive using bitcoin and i'm sure without china everything will be fine.
I would like China to keep being on bitcoin and the Chinese investors to keep buying bitcoin however if it comes to the point in which China bans bitcoin then there is no doubt that we are going to lose a big market however that void will eventually be filled by the likes of Japan and other countries, the price will decrease if such a thing happened but after a few months things will get back to normal, so we must not be afraid of that scenario if it came to happen.
1889  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: If bitcoin has enemy (except altcoin) what is it? on: September 25, 2017, 05:29:58 PM
Like everybody worst enemy it is our self and bitcoin worst enemy is bitcoin, if there no development improvement and innovation in bitcoin it will stuck on it and users will switch to other crypto. I dont think that government are one of the worst enemy of bitcoin as the government duty is to make and impose the law for the better of a nation. Banks are not the enemy also as bank has establish their reputation long time ago.
Governments are the worst enemies of bitcoin, while in theory governments should strive to improve the country, the truth is that most governments only exists to serve themselves and they are trying to impose their rules not to benefit the population but to benefit themselves, this is why they do not like bitcoin, because bitcoin benefits the population but not them.

i imagine if government is accepting bitcoin and they can learn and they can integrate with blockchain technology into their technology, it would be great for people. governments can fix the economy to the better system while people can solve the poverty beside that with bitcoin, i think in the end, both government and people can be grow to the better system economy.
This is what governments should strive for, but we must not forget that governments are made of people and most of the time people have reason to be in the government that has nothing to do with public service, it has to do with furthering their own interest and most of them would gladly sell the country as long as they are able to get benefits from it, this is why bitcoin is great, it is trustless, you do not have to trust in big daddy government to do the right thing for you.
1890  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin prices rise high on: September 25, 2017, 04:40:26 AM
Maybe . The more bitcoin users with the limited number of coins will make the price more expensive.
If all online shops in all countries accept bitcoin as a means of payment, maybe the price will be double the current price even more
And many more factors affecting bitcoin prices in addition to numbers and users  Cheesy
I agree with you. This is the law of supply and demand. I think the more countries open to trading via bitcoin and or recognizes cryptocurrencies as modern form of currencies, many people eventually will be lured into buying or selling bitcoins as well. Meanwhile, if there are limited bitcoins naturally the prices will kick at all time high. This phenomenon is very imminent nowadays.
But that is a big if, will governments of the world legalize bitcoin or ban it? They have choose to ignore it for the moment but that is not a posture they can adopt for long since bitcoin keeps growing, if enough governments ban it then they could convince the rest of the countries to follow the same policy but if on the other hand bitcoin is legalized by enough countries then bitcoin is going to become unstoppable and the price will reach levels that may seem ridiculous in the next decade.
1891  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How many people are asking you about Bitcoin now? on: September 25, 2017, 02:43:54 AM
I has purchased so many stuffs with my earnings from bitcoin  and this  has prompted some people to start asking me where I got the money I used for the purchase, I told them categorically I made my money from bitcoin this had also made some suspicion among some people thinking that I was involved in internet scams I have to convinced them how I was making my money by showing them evidences and proofs e.g showing my btc wallet with all the sent and received transactions.
While you are being a nice person by showing them how you got your money I think that is a bad idea, now they know your address and now they know how much money you got in that address and in theory could follow every single transaction you have made, I know that is not my business but I think it is better to try to be more cautious to who you show the amount of bitcoin you have since that could eventually play against you if a hacker finds out about it and decides to target you and your bitcoin.
1892  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Earning enough with Bitcoin without Job ? on: September 24, 2017, 11:40:03 PM
Yap is very possible to bitcoin use as a job compare real job , bitcoin can give you many income than real job and you can stay at home as you want.
So just serious to make bitcoin as regulary job and work in regular office is only waste time
It is possible but you should not count on that, just look at the way the price moves, if you have some kind of regular job with bitcoin and you barely earn enough to sustain yourself you are going to suffer a lot when the price of bitcoin goes down and it stays there for some time, even if you are a trader you cannot hope to get the same amount of bitcoin every month, there are going to be good months and there are going to be bad months.
1893  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Please share your EXIT strategy... on: September 24, 2017, 10:30:01 PM
I am new and jumped all in...what I lack is exit strategy.

Not a full EXIT but to secure some of your "gains" to real earnings.  OR...where/how to convert to cash when you expect a major dive so you can re-purchase when it is low.

Anyone have good tips when and how you do it?

The win win strategy is Just invest the amount only what you think you can afford to lost. If you lost this investment then it will not hurt you because you already declared that amount lost is nothing but if it will sucess then you will earn suprisingly unexpectedly in that would be great.

That is only true for gambling since you know that is an activity that is not going to give you profits, no one in the history of investment has invested money thinking they are going to lose, they all think they have made their due diligence and are sure the crypto they choose to invest their money is going to be a winner, besides investing only what you can afford to lose is not going to be enough if you have plans like having a comfortable retirement.
1894  Economy / Economics / Re: China's influence on bitcoin is becoming insignificant. on: September 24, 2017, 09:19:57 PM
Maybe because their share in cryptocurrency is just 10 - 15 %... IF you remove them, that percentage can easily be patched-up.  So come to think of it.  Every moment, more and more countries are adopting the cryptocurrency because it is the trend nowadays... It is just like social media... When social media was introduced, mixed emotions were felt, some were excited, some were afraid because of the "PRIVACY" thing.   Now that many people/countries are accepting or using it... CHINA will eventually succumb to the trend.  I bet not for long, they will start to use this currency again....
But it is not as simple, governments love social media since people expose their complete lives there and governments can keep track of their citizens that way, bitcoin is the complete opposite of social media, bitcoin allows someone to hide their income in plain sight without the possibility of freezing or confiscating that money and that is going to drive governments crazy and some may even ban bitcoin because of it.
1895  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Is this for real? I could be a millionaire? on: September 24, 2017, 06:52:34 AM
You gotta see I'm sceptical.
Please tell me I haven't made the biggest mistake of my life?

If by biggest mistake of your life you mean the choice not to get in on bitcoin sooner? better late than never! this isn't even 10 years old yet. just imagine in 5 years... there's so much going for bitcoin lately that it should just keep going up long term
It may be late to have the earnings of early adopters but it is still not too late, bitcoin has not been adopted globally, you just need to run some numbers in your head and you will come to the conclusion that bitcoin can still go up a lot, for example if bitcoin has 10 million users and we assume that in the future at least 500 million people are going to use bitcoin then the price could go up 50 times, you will only need a handful of bitcoins to become a millionaire.
1896  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Views on UNIKOIN? The Mark Cuban/Ashton Kutcher backed sports crypto? on: September 24, 2017, 04:26:41 AM
They're raising $100 million.  Not a lot of return potential when you start with that high of a market cap
This, if you care about making money with your investments then investing in such a coin does not seem like a good business, it is not going to grow too much taking into account the huge amount invested, it could go higher because of the hype, but hype is not enough to keep the boat afloat, besides with such big whales they will be able to manipulate the price of the coin at will and that is never a good thing.
1897  Economy / Speculation / Re: What price you expect bitcoin by 30 September? on: September 23, 2017, 09:39:13 PM
i think bitcoin could go over $4000 even without the china. We don't need china as long as big whales from other country holding their bitcoin and buying more . once they sell it out that will gonna be the end of bitcoin journey because they can manipulate the price by selling and buying bitcoins. its all about the demand. Price of bitcoin depends on the demand of bitcoin.
Bitcoin will be able to recover eventually but there is no doubt that if China keeps taking these decisions against their citizens and bitcoin then the price of bitcoin is going to suffer because of lack of demand and Chinese investors selling in panic trying to recover the most money they can out of these investments, so I personally see a price between 3000 and 3500 by the end of this month if we keep receiving bad news.
1898  Economy / Gambling / Re: BITDICE - 🎲🎲🎲 ICO ANNOUNCE 15 AUG 2017! JOIN THE TRANSFORMATION! 🎰🎰🎰 on: September 23, 2017, 08:20:08 PM
Whats the price determination in terms of eth?
According to the raised amount $8.7 million (shown on ico page), the total raised amount is 35047 eth. per token can be calculated like this eth or usd raised / total amount of tokens for sale.
 35047/70000000=0.000500671428571 (eth)

Are there any real concerns for the Bitdice token holders on 2018?  I think the SEC and other govt. regulators could get serious with ICO's and they could block them from being traded in an exchange.

Not that I really mind, the dividends I get just for being a holder is good, but some people might want to trade them for a better price in the future.  Any thoughts?
Don't worry about sec, bitdice didn't take any investment from residents of US, it won't be listed on exchanges based in US. we can always trade bitdice token on dex, if exchanges don't list it. Wink
With so many regulations coming to the markets I think we are going to see a growing interest in decentralized exchanges, so much that I think next year most of their tokens are going to skyrocket, and while the user experience of those exchanges is still not the same than the one you get from centralized exchanges there is no doubt they are striving to improve their services and if it came to that I have no doubt that a decentralized exchange will list the BitDice token.
1899  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Why buy WAVES? on: September 23, 2017, 06:46:24 PM
With the existence of several ICO projects that use the Wave platform of course this makes the Wave will grow again with the increasing popularity and confidence of all parties about the progress made in the wave and will be better if it can hold it as a long-term investment.


Is anyone here a bit frustrated that waves hasn't taken off yet?


The other thing i want to know is are there lot of ppl that got waves here when it was like under 50 cent and bought a lot of it?
We are currently in difficult times especially with all the measures taken by the Chinese government in the last weeks, and second I will not be surprised if people here bought when waves was very cheap, decentralized exchanges are very high in my priority list of things we need and also when it comes to investments because it is very obvious to me that we cannot continue with centralized exchanges due to how sensitive they are to government regulation.
1900  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bought my first BTC @ $4600, slightly worried on: September 23, 2017, 07:07:57 AM
Hey guys, new member here Smiley

I've been watching Bitcoin's development since early August this year, and I finally gave in and bought 1 BTC for $4600. I didn't wait because I figured the value could easily break the $5000 barrier at any time, and if the price would suddenly normalize above that level, 1 BTC would be outside my budget.

I probably went OCD on the matter and should've waited instead of having to have 1 full BTC, especially since the ICO-related news from China were still pretty recent.

Anyway: the 2nd wave of news regarding shutdown of local exchanges hit hours after I made the purchace, and the value plummeted (it's now hovering just above $4000, that's a 13% decrease). Lesson learned I guess. I've been lurking on the forums for a couple of months trying to pick up some sound advice from you guys, and from what I've gathered I should stick with holding for 5-10 years instead of panicking. But honestly, it's tough to ride the lows.

Any words of encouragement? Grin I guess I'm not the only one who've had a nervous start in the world of cryptocurrencies. Anyone else feeling like they "need" to acquire 1 BTC before the train leaves the station for good?
Well, you bought near the top and that is a classic newbie mistake, if you are a newbie the best time to buy is when the market has not moved much for some time, some may say that you need to buy the dips but that is a maneuver for a bitcoin user that is experimented because if a newbie did that then he will probably panic if the price of bitcoin kept falling after he bought, now you will need to hold for some months or even a year before seeing any profit from your investment, but do not worry the longer you hold the less you care about the movements of the market.
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