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Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Should I cancel my BFL 4/2/2013 Order?
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on: May 01, 2013, 03:47:34 AM
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1000 BTC is chump change for him
Oh really? Then why hasn't he made any effort to pay the debt? Because he's not going to. He originally made the bet with the intention of making people believe BFL would be a good investment, since he was risking his reputation on it. And people fell for it. It accomplished its mission, don't waste your time.
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Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: What tempature do you run your GPU's
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on: May 01, 2013, 03:40:14 AM
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Sheesh you guys, let those GPUs breathe!
Might be a good idea to reseat the heatsinks with good thermal compound like Noctua or Arctic Silver. I've seen 4-5 degree differences in reviews which actually could make a difference when we're pushing them to the edge like this.
Clean the surfaces well with iso alcohol and use a 5mm dab on the center of the GPU.
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Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: Considering purchasing Avalon chips
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on: April 30, 2013, 07:44:53 PM
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1. Buy Avalon chips in group buy 2. Send chips to one of many builders, or build yourself 3. Profit
In reality it is much more complicated. The lead time for chips is ten weeks, which puts delivery into late June/July assuming no delays for the first orders. In the next month a whole bunch of DIY (or semi-DIY) solutions will be available for those with chips. Those with the know how will have the materials ready to go, or have people lined up to build them quickly. In the grand mining scheme, however, the DIY crowd constitutes a very small group, but it is likely they will be online first, barring any design problems.
Also to be considered are the large-scale ASIC miners, who will have ordered huge amounts of chips but will have larger startup costs and hurdles. As we have seen with Butterfly Labs, running a large operation while meeting expectations can be extraordinarily difficult and expensive. Designing, building and running a large ASIC farm will not be without its own set of challenges. Because of this reality, I believe that correlating difficulty increases with the number of chips sold, especially in a given timeframe, is speculation at best. Also we have difficulty. Yesterday's difficulty increase was less than predicted on the forums, so it's possible future increases could be less as well. The massive ASIC farms mentioned above may not be online until autumn, AND it's reasonable to assume BFL's production will continue through the summer at a slow trickle. Therefore, I think it's reasonable that difficulty will increase, although not by ridiculous amounts until autumn, and even that depends on how many ASIC farms successfully power up on schedule.
Of course I could be totally wrong. But I do think there's a strong case to be made for the DIYer somewhere in here.
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Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Received BFL Jalapeņo Today!
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on: April 30, 2013, 07:01:51 PM
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I agree but I am trying to understand the motivation of a vocal minority that predominates almost every thread. I think there are a few outspoken individuals who see themselves as vigilantes, seeking justice in the wild wild bitcoin west. I agree they come off a little strong when in realty they could wait patiently for BFL to dig their own grave. Anyway, it's clear to me as a newcomer that BFL's business practices have been more than shady, failing to deliver time after time while actively collecting more money. Now backed into a corner, Josh's demeanor as CEO is laughable, and his contempt for his customers is disgusting. I'm very surprised to see that he would damage his own company's credibility in such a way.
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Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: BFL Jalapeņo
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on: April 30, 2013, 02:53:20 PM
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Well you can always upgrade your existing Jalapeņo order to overnight shipping for the bargain price of $100 each.
Seems like a desperate cash grab if you ask me.
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Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Klondike - 16 chip ASIC Open Source Board - Preliminary
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on: April 29, 2013, 08:16:14 PM
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I looked on heatsinkusa and could only see a $12.35 option for 4" wide cut to 4" length. I guess I didn't find the right one. Can you give me a link to the $5 one? I'd like to see and if it's right then I'll just tell people they could order those, though I think even cheaper options could turn up. I see they have a 4" wide option with 2" high fins for $12. Maybe that is large if we want to stack them close together. They also have 3.5 and 4.2" inch sizes with .75" high fins for about $4 and $5 respectively. If 3.5x4" is big enough, $4.36 is pretty cheap.
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Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Klondike - 16 chip ASIC Open Source Board - Preliminary
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on: April 29, 2013, 06:37:09 PM
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About the heatsink. If the board is 10x10cm, how does a socket 478 heatsink fit? It's only 3.5 cm x 3.5 cm. Would the board be using four heatsinks, one for each group of four Avalon chips? Or will there be a large heat-spreader on the reverse side of the board, and a single heatsink in the center?
Anyway, CPU heatsinks are cheap. I found the socket 478 variety for less than $3 including a fan and shipping from China, if you buy them in a sufficiently large quantity. Other kinds of heatsinks for newer sockets can be had as cheap. And pretty much any CPU heatsink can cool off 35W without any problems.
Bkk correct me if I'm wrong but the sinks would simply be mounted to the back of the pcb, Avalon style. A quick look at heatsinkusa.com shows a ~4x4" sink costing around $5, give or take a bit depending on how high the fins need to be.
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Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: [Group Buy] Avalon ASICs CHIPS! Using JohnK as escrow! [currently closed]
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on: April 27, 2013, 03:41:36 AM
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I'm fairly sure that if he does not reopen this thread and stay true to his word, this whole thing is going to fall to pieces.
I will step in if that happens and handle distribution. Messaging JohnK right now to see about verifying my identity with him. If raginazn pulls through, great. But I'm not about to let this all fall apart. You have my support as well. We are all adults here. John K and nebiz have done a great job in keeping things professional and friendly. I mean no offense to the OP, but we all have common interests here and there's no reason for this order not to happen. And let wrenchmonkey send his coins for god's sake!
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Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: DIY PCB with AVALON - [OP Makeover - Forming List of Developers]
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on: April 26, 2013, 10:50:58 PM
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Thanks for the answer, and links. So soldering the ASICs to the board could be accomplished in a toaster oven, or a skillet. Nice. Not for mass production, obviously, but a beginner with a handful of chips and some soldering equipment could potentially do this. Any idea of cooling requirements for these? The units BFL released into the wild seem to run very hot with large heatsinks. At the risk of getting ahead of myself, once we know the heatsink size needed, custom orders could be placed with a company like, say Heatsinks USA. I have dealt with them in the past when building LED lighting and they are inexpensive and cut custom widths.
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Economy / Speculation / Re: so much FUD
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on: April 26, 2013, 08:14:59 AM
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The amount of trolling on this board last night during the correction, whether from bulls or bears, was just too much. People are losing their heads. I'm quite disappointed with the way things are going here. Everyone's just screaming crash and rally.
Yeah I feel like I'm hanging out with a bunch of teenagers. I remember when I had my first beer.
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Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: [Group Buy] Avalon ASICs CHIPS! Using JohnK as Escrow! Send coins to confirm!
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on: April 26, 2013, 12:04:52 AM
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Wow, I'm late to this party. I'm interested in 30 chips, but I don't know how long it will take to buy bitcoins, and get them transfered, as I've never done that before. Is there still a snowball's chance in hell of me getting some of these? There is always Bitinstant payable directly to your bitcoin address. Higher fees but you'll have your coins within hours.
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Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: DIY PCB with AVALON - [OP Makeover - Forming List of Developers]
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on: April 25, 2013, 11:54:35 PM
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The design I'm working on is 16 chips on a 10cm x 8cm board. Each board has a PIC USB controller but also supports I2C. This allows chaining multiple boards together so they use only one USB port. I'm targeting a 2 layer board to keep costs very low. If I run into problems with 2 layers then I'll bump up to 4 layer but that increases pcb cost by 3-4x. Right now parts cost estimate for one board is about $20 including pcb, not including ASIC, heat sink, assembly or parts shpg. ($20/16 chips is $1.25 per chip.) I'll post my design on github eventually after final specs come out. You could panelize 8 boards on a larger 20cm x 32cm pcb for production. Then you would have 4 BIG boards total. Or whatever combination works. On each panel you would tie the sections together with I2C bus (4-wire ribbon cable), have one USB port and make a power splitter lead to distribute the 12V. 8 units using 32W each is 256W per BIG board. You could run two boards off a good 650W supply. Smaller boards give a bit more flexibility in arranging them for cooling. I'll post more as I progress or check here: http://github/bkkcoins Don't expect anything until after Avalon docs are released. Thank you Bkk, man this design sounds really great. I will keep an eye on your github. This being a sort of DIY project, how difficult would it be for an average Joe with a small amount of chips and some soldering experience to put together? Too risky?
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