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1481  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: [Group Buy#1] Avalon ASICs CHIPS! Using JohnK as escrow! FINISHED! on: October 28, 2013, 04:22:55 PM
Any updates on the remaining refunds? Still waiting for mine.
1482  Economy / Services / Re: Butter Bot!: New Bitstamp, BTC-E, and MtGox EMA Trading Platform on: October 28, 2013, 04:17:10 PM
Can u make a bot that starts at say X and if the value drops 2$ you buy and if it increases 4$ you sell?

Hi flyboy. That sounds good in theory, but we can't always pick the direction the market will go in. For example, if you sold after a $5 price increase, sure you lock in a small profit, but what if the price kept going up? What if it was a huge movement, like a $15 increase? What if a new bubble forms? You wouldn't want to be left behind.

In the same way going down, how do we call the bottom? What if it drops $5 quickly, you buy, and then moves back upwards even higher (called a bear trap) and leaves you on the wrong side of the trade? Now you must either buy in at a higher price, or hold the cash, hoping it eventually goes back down.

The bot watches 24/7 and attempts to mathematically put us at an advantage to profit long-term using exponential moving averages. When the market ranges between values, say $170 and $175, most trades won't be profitable and it's frustrating to watch. But when the price makes a move and begins to move strongly upwards or down, the bot ensures we are on the correct side of the trade to profit from the trend.

For example, my bot bought in correctly yesterday and rode the $10 price rise. The three trades before, however, were a small loss. The hope is that gains on the larger trends will make up for the smaller losses.
1483  Economy / Services / Re: Butter Bot!: New Bitstamp, BTC-E, and MtGox EMA Trading Platform on: October 27, 2013, 09:00:00 PM
So far I'm going to so no to butterbot

Started it on Friday with default settings for gox

Started with 7.9 @ 195ish

First sale 188$ the lowest point this weekend.

First buy 205$ very close to the high for the weekend.

I went from 7.9 to 7.2 in two days.

At this rate I will be broke in a month.

Sounds like you need to read more about ema trading. Many, if not most, of the trades will be unprofitable.
1484  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Did BFL mine with my unit for 3 weeks before shipping it to me? on: October 27, 2013, 06:00:10 PM
If part of his job is customer service, managing customer relationships, and speaking on behalf of BFL, he's not very good at it. That's the reason everyone "dislikes" him.

How hard is it to ignore the trolls, mudslinging and namecalling? Simply present the information in a professional manner and be done with it. Post #8 was a perfect example. Just do that, all the time.

It's not rocket science, Josh.
1485  Economy / Services / Re: Butter Bot!: New Bitstamp, BTC-E, and MtGox EMA Trading Platform on: October 26, 2013, 12:08:51 AM
Recent posts lead me to believe that not everybody using this bot is up on the basics.  To that end, I am going to jot up on the board some key points you should know and research if you are going to trade in Crypto.

1.  Hi

Me.  Why believe me?  Don't.  Do your own due diligence; but this should get you pointed in the right direction to do that.

That said, in "real life", I am a trade consultant and trainer, and I charge for it.  I have no affiliation with ButterBot except as a user.

2.  Crypto

Know your trade.  Know Bitcoin, how to use it and move it.  Crypto is extremely easy to move around, that is a large part of it's power.  Posts about not being able to access/move/exchange one's funds are a massive case of cart-before-horse in-over-your-head trading.  Don't take offense, learn what you are doing wrong and fix it... I will show you how.

3.  Portal

Very first on your "I-wanna-b-a-trader" checklist is your portal.  You need to be able to exchange USD for BTC in minutes; not days.  Do not confuse your portal with your exchange.  At the exchange, that is just money on books.  I am talking about getting real, physical paper $20 bill into BTC and back again.

EXAMPLE
I "park" my mortgage payment in a trade account each month until the day it is due.  This past month, a very good month, that mortgage payment made me more then $700 in profit in the time it sat there.  This is the power of a good portal.

Use your portal to move your money between your bank account and the exchanges, _not_ the exchange withdrawal/deposit system.

I use and recommend Coinbase as my portal.

4.  Exchange

So much info is available on the different exchanges it seems redundant to write anything on this, but based on a post here earlier, I guess not everybody reads as much as I do, so I will address the 4 largest, in descending order of "respect":

BitStamp:  Widely regarded as the standard leader at this point.  This said, they are going through a spot of growing pains, and often get overwhelmed in heavy trading.

BTC-e:  Located in Russia, this exchange has continued to surprise and impress.  They do not have the volume of the larger exchanges (for you whales out there), but they are solid, and I have never experience a single problem trading there.  Low fees and predictable curves have made it the most profitable butter accounts for me & mine.

BTCChina:  New on the scene, and taking the lead.  They do not deal in USD, however, so have not had much to do with them

GOX:  What can be said here that is not already splashed all over the news & internet?  Stay away!!  They are a mess, a risk, and just not worth the headache.

If you are trading larger amounts (>$10,000), I recommend spreading the investments across more then one exchange.  This diversification helps manage risk and reduces the shock to the market when Butter buys/dumps large sums.

5.  Strategy

Hundreds of thousands of books have been written on this part.  If you read them all, you may or may not be able to beat ButterBot, because it uses a pretty solid strategy for the Crypto trade right now.  Butter has made over 40% returns for me in the time I have been using it (a couple of months).  I know few people that have been able to beat that.

So for the purposes of this forum, the strategy I recommend is to tune your settings carefully to the exchange you are using, and leave it alone.  I check/re-tune about once a week.  That is too often, but I feel useless if I don't.



If you need a Coinbase account, feel free to use this link; it will kick us both back $5:

https://coinbase.com/?r=5170cd8e09b9d96e2f000009&utm_campaign=user-referral&src=

If you have not purchased Butter yet, feel free to use this link... again, we both get a kickback:

https://butter-bot.com/?r=82a121d4

If any of the above helped you, feel free to buy me a cup of coffee:

1QGr5R2An47fmM1fAjeaG1JAnfis81wTNC


Sean

Smiley

This is super helpful, Sean. Thank you so much for posting.

One question: Could you elaborate on how you tweak your bot settings? I notice the recommended Bitstamp settings (20/42) are a little slow on the draw lately. Maybe that's a good thing.
1486  Economy / Speculation / Re: What will the price of BTC be when 22M people want 1 BTC each? on: October 24, 2013, 02:31:28 AM
21 Million people want 1 BTC = 1 BTC = $21 million

Right?

Right!!

Right??

Pretty obvious to me.

Right?

No, that's ridiculous.

Forgot to use your alt acct?

LOL

Busted!
1487  Economy / Speculation / Re: This Doesn't Feel Like A Bubble To Me on: October 24, 2013, 02:01:34 AM
Actually, the moon is not a cheese, it is a giant spaceship.

What, you haven't seen the videos of the conspiracy theorists and that experiment when NASA detonated charges on the moon and it reverberated as if it were hollow?

 Grin Grin Grin 

That's no moon....
1488  Economy / Speculation / Re: This Doesn't Feel Like A Bubble To Me on: October 24, 2013, 01:26:14 AM
You know it's time to sell when people start acting delusional and thinking aloud that the Moon is made of cheese...

What??  Huh

Randomest post I've seen so far.

You mean you don't ever look at the moon and wonder if it's a giant wheel of Parmesan? Smiley
1489  Economy / Speculation / Re: Winklevoss Bitcoin Trust on Bloomberg on: October 24, 2013, 01:22:38 AM
Here's a copy of the filing.

http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1579346/000119312513393903/d562329ds1a.htm
1490  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: [Group Buy#1] Avalon ASICs CHIPS! Using JohnK as escrow! FINISHED! on: October 24, 2013, 12:34:52 AM
Correct, John told me he was holding off on the refunds with ownership transfers due to some conflicting information. Here's hoping we see them soon.
1491  Economy / Speculation / Re: Winklevoss Bitcoin Trust on Bloomberg on: October 23, 2013, 09:16:00 PM
If this Winklevoss trust goes live, that will be huuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuge.

Agreed. Very significant news.
1492  Economy / Speculation / Re: Strategies to increase Bitcoin holdings using only Bitcoin on: October 23, 2013, 08:14:17 PM
- Borrow USD using BTC as collateral.
- Use a service like broker1 or btc.sx
- Shortsell altcoins
- Invest in a BTC denominated asset.

You forgot whoring out your signature Wink
1493  Economy / Speculation / Re: US media frenzy hasn't even begun yet on: October 23, 2013, 07:54:25 PM
Didn't you get it? The last 6 month was one giant bear trap.

1494  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer - MtGoxUSD wall movement tracker - Hardcore on: October 23, 2013, 06:38:21 PM

Anyway, just continue. Nothing brings me more joy than watching jokers like you and Rampion lose their coins because they think they know it all.

I wouldn't normally waste time on taking issue with this sort of thing, but in the few months that I've been using this forum, I've seen that all of your posts are derogatory and not in the slightest bit constructive.  You sound like a whining teenager.  Consider yourself added to my ignore list.
+1

@shroomskit: is your avatar pic deliberately showing self-mockery or just a coincidence?

His reputation precedes him. I recognize shroomskit from another forum where he was equally as obnoxious.
1495  Economy / Speculation / Re: BITSTAMP eXchange wall Observer. second biggest and best exchange on: October 23, 2013, 06:13:55 PM
200 gently touched

Just the way 200 likes it.
1496  Economy / Speculation / Re: Memespeculation on: October 23, 2013, 05:29:43 PM


HA!

This bears repeating...
1497  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer - MtGoxUSD wall movement tracker - Hardcore on: October 23, 2013, 05:13:55 PM
The 1btc sell bot is at it again...
1498  Economy / Computer hardware / [WTS] LEPA G1600 PSU on: October 22, 2013, 10:44:35 PM
I have the granddaddy of power supplies here, the Lepa G1600.

Brand new, never used, all original packaging and accessories included. I was going to use it for a mining project, but alas it will find a better home elsewhere. A 20 amp circuit is recommended if you're going to drive this baby hard, but for a lesser project it will give you plenty of overhead.

Asking $230USD with free Priority shipping within the US. International customers PM me for quote. Preferred payment method is BTC.

My feedback is positive (I just sold a bunch of asic chips to marto74 without escrow), however buyer can use it if desired. PM me with questions.

Cheers!


1499  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: [Group Buy#1] Avalon ASICs CHIPS! Using JohnK as escrow! FINISHED! on: October 22, 2013, 06:33:55 PM
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Ajd96YUD1TckdFJWZS1Jc3lvelVSZEt0Y3hfRUhGYWc&usp=drive_web#gid=0

This one. I'll probably import the pending refunds to that list you mentioned above and have everyone do a last check before sending out.

Looks good for me. Thanks!

All good here.
1500  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: [Group Buy#1] Avalon ASICs CHIPS! Using JohnK as escrow! FINISHED! on: October 21, 2013, 02:06:43 AM
Let's let John do this however he's most comfortable. I'm not listed on the new sheet, but I assume it's a work in progress.

Keep us updated.
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