Flat Earth

[BitNow]

^^^ No, actually I sat down and starting typing my thoughts out into a post and posted it. Then I saw Boobies question and contemplated answering it. Then I hit reply to answer boobies question and it said there were two new posts in red letters. I read the new posts and they were accusations about me, false accusations.

Now I'm writing this response instead of answering boobies question.

I'm accusing you because questions about the Creator: in my family this question has always been answered as a "Faith answer" (believe it or not). Is your own personal thoughts and that is it.

I'm trying to discuss reality and what has been teached us since our birth: the Earth is round and we landed on the Moon.

I'm trying to reply their questions with their own methodology: SCIENCE (or Scientism if you prefer).

"Globe Vs Flat"

Did we land on the Moon???

If the Moon is 500 miles away that is very possible: and if they did and we all believe that the Moon is 300,000 miles away we think that they are great men for doing that!

The Moon is 500 miles away. (and the Firmament is the limit)

Did we land on the Moon?

Your thoughts...

Best regards.

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[serbad]

^^^ No, actually I sat down and starting typing my thoughts out into a post and posted it. Then I saw Boobies question and contemplated answering it. Then I hit reply to answer boobies question and it said there were two new posts in red letters. I read the new posts and they were accusations about me, false accusations.

Now I'm writing this response instead of answering boobies question.

I'm accusing you because questions about the Creator: in my family this question has always been answered as a "Faith answer" (believe it or not). Is your own personal thoughts and that is it.

I'm trying to discuss reality and what has been teached us since our birth: the Earth is round and we landed on the Moon.

I'm trying to reply their questions with their own methodology: SCIENCE (or Scientism if you prefer).

"Globe Vs Flat"

Did we land on the Moon???

If the Moon is 500 miles away that is very possible: and if they did and we all believe that the Moon is 300,000 miles away we think that they are great men for doing that!

The Moon is 500 miles away. (and the Firmament is the limit)

Did we land on the Moon?

Your thoughts...

Best regards.

The creator is the one who put things in motion and so initiated the reaction
You are part of the reaction.

Unfeasible
The moon is not a solid object.

[BitNow]

...omissis...

The creator is the one who put things in motion and so initiated the reaction
You are part of the reaction.

Thank You for your thought.

Unfeasible
The moon is not a solid object.

I can see craters with naked eye during the night that can only be explainable with solid structure of the "object Moon" described as we see it.

That is true that everyting that emits light that we know is liquid or not solid (the Sun, the starts, the quarks, others...).

Is the Moon giving its own light?

Probably, and if the Moon is giving its own light and being solid that will be the first object of this nature ever observed on Earth.

"And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also."
- Gen 1:16


Best regards.

[serbad]

...omissis...

The creator is the one who put things in motion and so initiated the reaction
You are part of the reaction.

Thank You for your thought.

Unfeasible
The moon is not a solid object.

I can see craters with naked eye during the night that can only be explainable with solid structure of the "object Moon" described as we see it.


Best regards.

No problem

look closer

[jorse]

a mindset like this make me crazy
I was not aware he had made, almost a week more I think
need proof that accurate so I'm sure with this

[nomad13666]

The Flat Moon Over the Flat Earth
https://youtu.be/fH7BjIzXWOg

[notbatman]

a mindset like this make me crazy
I was not aware he had made, almost a week more I think
need proof that accurate so I'm sure with this

We can speculate all day about things that are out of reach due to distance or time but you can definitely prove the Earth is flat and motionless. If you need to see some quick proof, every balloon a YouTuber has sent up without a wide angle lens on it comes back flat. For detailed proof look up the YouTuber who climbed a mountain and lined up perfectly two other mountains of known heights and distances.

For non-video evidence understand Eratosthenes experiment, then with the incorrect explanation in mind that the Sun's rays strike the Earth in parallel look at the following photograph of the Sun's rays striking the Earth and know the Earth is flat.

[Longsnowsm]

There are questions, a lot of questions. A big one is about the creator(s) and all I can do at this point is speculate and the following is speculation.

I'm going to use the there are no forests on flat earth as a starting point. When I saw this I instantly recalled features from maps of the ocean floor I had seen while reading up on possible sites for ancient megalithic stone structures back in late 2013. At the time I reasoned that the features I was seeing were the result of the computer software that stitched the radar images together, my mind couldn't comprehend engineering on that scale.

If we look at fractals they are self-similar at the different scales; they don't repeat but they do rhyme. I think the ancient Greeks got it right (I know they got the Flat Earth part right) and the creator(s), God(s) are giant(s).

You are not argumenting: you are putting an higher question because you cannot answer mine.

I tried to stay with my feets on the ground:

• we cannot leave the Firmament
• Moon and Sun are inside the Firmament

By then the Moon is no more than 500 miles away and the "Moon Landing" could be totally feasible.

Don't talk about the creator if you don't know: try to find him with the things that are real.

Is the "Moon Landing" real??? PROBABLY IT IS if the Moon is 500 miles away.

THE FIRMAMENT IS THE LIMIT.


Best regards.

You keep quoting a distance of 500 miles to the moon.  I would love to know where that estimate is from.  Because everything I has seen from the calculations is that the sun and moon are about 3000-4000 miles away(varies based on several factors) and who is doing the math. 

And no, if you look up the pile of growing evidence it is getting more clear by the day that we didn't go to the moon.   There are a lot of reasons for this which I won't go into here, but lets start off with globe earthers trying to prove Newton's laws clearly showing that that the equal and opposite reaction theory is a bust.  And that rockets actually are propelled by pushing air, not from the reaction within the rocket itself as we are told.   You see Newton wasn't "God" and his theories are not gospel.  You can demonstrate and test this yourself.  So if rockets actually need an atmosplane/air to push against to propel it, and if the area above the earth we call space is really a vacuum then your rockets are going to have some serious issues in "space". 

[notbatman]

What is the firmament? Who made it and whats it made of? Must be super strong to be able to hold in all of the air we breath and keep out whatever is beyond. There must be some explanation for this dome. That is what you guys are talking about when you mention the firmament right?

Correct, the firmament is the dome mentioned in the Bible that covers the Earth at a height of about 3,000 miles and keeps the water out.

Who made it and what's it made from? The God(s), unknown person(s) probably giants with silicon based biology and it's made from a highly polarized long grain damascus type nickel-iron steel with a reflective golden oxide coating.

[BitNow]

What is the firmament? Who made it and whats it made of? Must be super strong to be able to hold in all of the air we breath and keep out whatever is beyond. There must be some explanation for this dome. That is what you guys are talking about when you mention the firmament right?

Yes and in the "Globe Model" the firmament are the Van Allen belts.
Ref: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Van_Allen_radiation_belt

Best regards.

Here there is a good explanation of the Van Allen belts (the Firmament).
URL: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RSXS7gj_29c

That can also explains you why we have landed on the Moon as the Moon is inside the Firmament.

This is what happened: "in the '60 space exploration was at the beginning, Van Allen belts theory was at the beginning, so no problem of leaving Earth gravitational field was in the eyes of the public opinion. The landed on the Moon inside the Firmament and they used it to reaffirm the "Globe Model" as everybody knows that the Moon is 300,000 miles away.
Nobody has never left Earth gravitational field, nobody has ever gone beyond the Firmament.

Now, that this thing is of public opinion (the Van Allen belts theory) they are searching a way to explains the "Land on the Moon" by saying: man cannot pass Van Allen belts but machines can.

That is also why nobody can go to Mars and they are not planning manned space missions in there."

Think about it:

• we cannot leave the Firmament
• Moon and Sun are inside the Firmament

Could the "Land on the Moon" be feasible and already been done in 1969???

Your thoughts...

Best regards.

[notbatman]

[notbatman]

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 Why does it take Voyager 1 over fifteen hours to communicate with the nearest node of the DSN ?

Tape delay, it's all smoke and mirrors.

[BitNow]

Nobody has never left Earth gravitational field, nobody has ever gone beyond the Firmament.

 Why does it take Voyager 1 over fifteen hours to communicate with the nearest node of the DSN ?

Voyager 1 is an unmanned space mission: your question is not relevant to my statement.

If you want and answer on that I can give you one: fake news.


Best regards.

[nomad13666]

Nobody has never left Earth gravitational field, nobody has ever gone beyond the Firmament.

 Why does it take Voyager 1 over fifteen hours to communicate with the nearest node of the DSN ?

Because that's what they told you, and you believe it to be true.

The only thing they have ever sent to space is your imagination.

Now get back in the kitchen and make us some sandwiches, Sally.

[BitNow]

...omissis...

 Why does it take Voyager 1 over fifteen hours to communicate with the nearest node of the DSN ?

Because that's what they told you, and you believe it to be true.

The only thing they have ever sent to space is your imagination.

Now get back in the kitchen and make us some sandwiches, Sally.

...omissis...

Right: and after that statement you will start saying that gays are sick and we need to send them in the Pleiades to die.

"Giving credit to the Globe Model"

Omosexuality is a disease: you need to threat them as sick people.

Don't lose focus on the subject: we are trying to find the Truth here with Science not Scientism they give us.


Best regards.

[nomad13666]

...omissis...

 Why does it take Voyager 1 over fifteen hours to communicate with the nearest node of the DSN ?

Because that's what they told you, and you believe it to be true.

The only thing they have ever sent to space is your imagination.

Now get back in the kitchen and make us some sandwiches, Sally.

...omissis...

Right: and after that statement you will start saying that gays are sick and we need to send them in the Pleiades to die.

"Giving credit to the Globe Model"

Omosexuality is a disease: you need to threat them as sick people.

Don't lose focus on the subject: we are trying to find the Truth here with Science not Scientism they give us.


Best regards.

Put the cap back on the solvent and open a window.

[BitNow]

...omissis...

Put the cap back on the solvent and open a window.

Now You are attacking me... wow: should I go to the Pleiades with BobLawblaw as well with the next Virgin Galactic flight???

Wake up sleepyhead: Santa is not coming for you this Christmas!


Best regards.

[nomad13666]

...omissis...

Put the cap back on the solvent and open a window.

Now You are attacking me... wow: should I go to the Pleiades with BobLawblaw as well with the next Virgin Galactic flight???

Wake up sleepyhead: Santa is not coming for you this Christmas!


Best regards.

I bet it's not easy typing with your toes, is it Pasquale?

[BitNow]

...omissis...

I bet it's not easy typing with your toes, is it Pasquale?

Why you keep avoiding my questions by asking new ones???

Do you know is unpolite to reply a question with a new question?


Best regards.


PS: my name is not "Pasquale", is Mr. Giovanni Silvestri, Engineer in Computer Science, problem solver, man, fucker if fuck'd. You can also call me BitNow if you prefer. The point here is not US, is the Globe Model and WHY it has been pushed against the Flat Model for over 500 years now.

I don't believe in lies and I don't believe Government is lying to us on purpose. You cannot escape a lie once it is built and they know it. They prefer to CAMUFLAGE THE TRUTH to use it for their purposes and, by that, enslave us.

The Moon Landing has probably more truth in it that we know it: if the Moon is 500 miles away that is very possible to reach it with current propulsion systems.

The Firmament is the limit: the Moon is inside the Firmament.

[nomad13666]

...omissis...

I bet it's not easy typing with your toes, is it Pasquale?

Why you keep avoiding my questions by asking new ones???

Do you know is unpolite to reply a question with a new question?


Best regards.


PS: my name is not "Pasquale", is Mr. Giovanni Silvestri, Engineer in Computer Science, problem solver, man, fucker if fuck'd. You can also call me BitNow if you prefer. The point here is not US, is the Globe Model and WHY it has been pushed against the Flat Model for over 500 years now.

I don't believe in lies and I don't believe Government is lying to us on purpose. You cannot escape a lie once it is built and they know it. They prefer to CAMUFLAGE THE TRUTH to use it for their purposes and, by that, enslave us.

The Moon Landing has probably more truth in it that we know it: if the Moon is 500 miles away that is very possible to reach it with current propulsion systems.

The Firmament is the limit: the Moon is inside the Firmament.

Easy there, Guido.

Take a deep breath and click this link with your big toe:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1009045.msg17807205#msg17807205