Flat Earth

[TooQik]

... quack!

The globalist explanation for why things fall is "gravity" and can't explain how or why.

While back on Earth somebody who knows it's flat will explain that an object falls because it's denser than its surrounding medium. The guy back on Earth also knows the ground is negatively charged and the heavens are positively charged thus defining what is up and down.

And still you fail to understand that density is not a force.

Density can't act on an object, it is just a measurement of an object's mass/volume, some outside force must act on the object in order for it to move, in any direction.

So, in your world of a flat Earth, what is the force that acts on all objects that hold them to the Earth?

When air or any medium is displaced by an object there's a resulting force based on its density relative to that medium. If the object is less dense such as a helium balloon it rises or floats and if it's more dense like a led ball than it falls or sinks. The force that holds you to the Earth is air or water pressure.

So if the force that is being created is due to the density of an object relative to the medium it displaces, why do objects dropped from a height in air all accelerate at the same speed towards the Earth? If your model was correct, objects of higher density would create a greater force and consequently fall faster, this is not observable by anyone, anywhere on Earth.

[notbatman]

... quack!

The globalist explanation for why things fall is "gravity" and can't explain how or why.

While back on Earth somebody who knows it's flat will explain that an object falls because it's denser than its surrounding medium. The guy back on Earth also knows the ground is negatively charged and the heavens are positively charged thus defining what is up and down.

And still you fail to understand that density is not a force.

Density can't act on an object, it is just a measurement of an object's mass/volume, some outside force must act on the object in order for it to move, in any direction.

So, in your world of a flat Earth, what is the force that acts on all objects that hold them to the Earth?

When air or any medium is displaced by an object there's a resulting force based on its density relative to that medium. If the object is less dense such as a helium balloon it rises or floats and if it's more dense like a led ball than it falls or sinks. The force that holds you to the Earth is air or water pressure.

So if the force that is being created is due to the density of an object relative to the medium it displaces, why do objects dropped from a height in air all accelerate at the same speed towards the Earth? If your model was correct, objects of higher density would create a greater force and consequently fall faster, this is not observable by anyone, anywhere on Earth.

It's the density of the medium that's responsible for the magnitude of the acceleration of an object, that's why objects of different densities fall at the same speed.

[Przemax]

... quack!

The globalist explanation for why things fall is "gravity" and can't explain how or why.

While back on Earth somebody who knows it's flat will explain that an object falls because it's denser than its surrounding medium. The guy back on Earth also knows the ground is negatively charged and the heavens are positively charged thus defining what is up and down.

And still you fail to understand that density is not a force.

Density can't act on an object, it is just a measurement of an object's mass/volume, some outside force must act on the object in order for it to move, in any direction.

So, in your world of a flat Earth, what is the force that acts on all objects that hold them to the Earth?

When air or any medium is displaced by an object there's a resulting force based on its density relative to that medium. If the object is less dense such as a helium balloon it rises or floats and if it's more dense like a led ball than it falls or sinks. The force that holds you to the Earth is air or water pressure.

So if the force that is being created is due to the density of an object relative to the medium it displaces, why do objects dropped from a height in air all accelerate at the same speed towards the Earth? If your model was correct, objects of higher density would create a greater force and consequently fall faster, this is not observable by anyone, anywhere on Earth.

It's the density of the medium that's responsible for the magnitude of the acceleration of an object, that's why objects of different densities fall at the same speed.

How so? There is a different moisture of the atmosphere and different density of the atmosphere relativly to the altitude and the weather. Hows so the gravitational acceleration is constant? And how so that the more you go below the sea level you have a higher pressure of water.

Please. Save your breath. You cant just invent empirical facts a new, you need to interpret them, otherwise you create your own realities.

Other than that the same concept of creating a force from the get go is unscientific as hell and proves your physical knowledge is low. Force is not something that is being created by action, to the contrary. If we would live in a Flat world we would be surrounded by a perpetum mobile devices of the unlimited energy that would be absolutely free. If only that would be possible. */activate a dream mode. Sell me your patent dear notbatman sir.

And if its a repulse for of the higher density objects by the lower density objects, then why is the repulsion always directed downwards? The only answer is because there is some kind of force (or "antiforce" directed upwards) working downwards other than repulsion. Its so fucking simple why cant you get it?

Btw is it just me or the concept of repulsion of higher density objects by lower density object seems counterfactual? Shouldnt that be the other way around?

[BADecker]

... quack!

The globalist explanation for why things fall is "gravity" and can't explain how or why.

While back on Earth somebody who knows it's flat will explain that an object falls because it's denser than its surrounding medium. The guy back on Earth also knows the ground is negatively charged and the heavens are positively charged thus defining what is up and down.

And still you fail to understand that density is not a force.

Density can't act on an object, it is just a measurement of an object's mass/volume, some outside force must act on the object in order for it to move, in any direction.

So, in your world of a flat Earth, what is the force that acts on all objects that hold them to the Earth?

When air or any medium is displaced by an object there's a resulting force based on its density relative to that medium. If the object is less dense such as a helium balloon it rises or floats and if it's more dense like a led ball than it falls or sinks. The force that holds you to the Earth is air or water pressure.

So if the force that is being created is due to the density of an object relative to the medium it displaces, why do objects dropped from a height in air all accelerate at the same speed towards the Earth? If your model was correct, objects of higher density would create a greater force and consequently fall faster, this is not observable by anyone, anywhere on Earth.

It's the density of the medium that's responsible for the magnitude of the acceleration of an object, that's why objects of different densities fall at the same speed.

How so? There is a different moisture of the atmosphere and different density of the atmosphere relativly to the altitude and the weather. Hows so the gravitational acceleration is constant? And how so that the more you go below the sea level you have a higher pressure of water.

Please. Save your breath. You cant just invent empirical facts a new, you need to interpret them, otherwise you create your own realities.

Other than that the same concept of creating a force from the get go is unscientific as hell and proves your physical knowledge is low. Force is not something that is being created by action, to the contrary. If we would live in a Flat world we would be surrounded by a perpetum mobile devices of the unlimited energy that would be absolutely free. If only that would be possible. */activate a dream mode. Sell me your patent dear notbatman sir.

And if its a repulse for of the higher density objects by the lower density objects why the repulsion is always directed downwards? The only answer is because there is some kind of force or "antiforce" directed upwards working on the down other than repulsion. Its so fucking simple why cant you get it?

He might be talking about the aether. There is very little known about the aether. It might have a greater or lesser density partially because of material that fills certain areas of it, and that it fills certain areas of. For example, the space between the electrons and nucleus of atoms is not empty. It is filled with the aether. The effect of the electrons and protons and neutrons on the aether within the atoms causes its density to change. The result is the same if we are simply considering mass. But the aether density might make a big difference regarding understanding how it all works. The funny thing is, there is really no proof for this. Even standard gravity theory has not really been proven.

The point is, we all can believe what we want. It hasn't been proven one way or the other. However, much less of FE theory (if there even is any FE theory) has been expressed. Mostly it is just a batch of informal ideas so far.



Another point against FE is that all the ancient "Indian" cultures in North, Central, and South America, from as long as thousands of years ago, write about the earth as though it were a sphere encircling the sun.

[Przemax]

... quack!

The globalist explanation for why things fall is "gravity" and can't explain how or why.

While back on Earth somebody who knows it's flat will explain that an object falls because it's denser than its surrounding medium. The guy back on Earth also knows the ground is negatively charged and the heavens are positively charged thus defining what is up and down.

And still you fail to understand that density is not a force.

Density can't act on an object, it is just a measurement of an object's mass/volume, some outside force must act on the object in order for it to move, in any direction.

So, in your world of a flat Earth, what is the force that acts on all objects that hold them to the Earth?

When air or any medium is displaced by an object there's a resulting force based on its density relative to that medium. If the object is less dense such as a helium balloon it rises or floats and if it's more dense like a led ball than it falls or sinks. The force that holds you to the Earth is air or water pressure.

So if the force that is being created is due to the density of an object relative to the medium it displaces, why do objects dropped from a height in air all accelerate at the same speed towards the Earth? If your model was correct, objects of higher density would create a greater force and consequently fall faster, this is not observable by anyone, anywhere on Earth.

It's the density of the medium that's responsible for the magnitude of the acceleration of an object, that's why objects of different densities fall at the same speed.

How so? There is a different moisture of the atmosphere and different density of the atmosphere relativly to the altitude and the weather. Hows so the gravitational acceleration is constant? And how so that the more you go below the sea level you have a higher pressure of water.

Please. Save your breath. You cant just invent empirical facts a new, you need to interpret them, otherwise you create your own realities.

Other than that the same concept of creating a force from the get go is unscientific as hell and proves your physical knowledge is low. Force is not something that is being created by action, to the contrary. If we would live in a Flat world we would be surrounded by a perpetum mobile devices of the unlimited energy that would be absolutely free. If only that would be possible. */activate a dream mode. Sell me your patent dear notbatman sir.

And if its a repulse for of the higher density objects by the lower density objects why the repulsion is always directed downwards? The only answer is because there is some kind of force or "antiforce" directed upwards working on the down other than repulsion. Its so fucking simple why cant you get it?

He might be talking about the aether. There is very little known about the aether. It might have a greater or lesser density partially because of material that fills certain areas of it, and that it fills certain areas of. For example, the space between the electrons and nucleus of atoms is not empty. It is filled with the aether. The effect of the electrons and protons and neutrons on the aether within the atoms causes its density to change. The result is the same if we are simply considering mass. But the aether density might make a big difference regarding understanding how it all works. The funny thing is, there is really no proof for this. Even standard gravity theory has not really been proven.

The point is, we all can believe what we want. It hasn't been proven one way or the other. However, much less of FE theory (if there even is any FE theory) has been expressed. Mostly it is just a batch of informal ideas so far.

I believe in the aether but the aether dont go against the Newtons laws but makes them suplementary. The aether is just a space created by a magnetic forces not a creation force of magnetism. Space has no properties as Tesla have said. Aether is just a product of certain forces not a force in itself.

Aether have no density - its just fucking absurdal to say that something has density when it is unquantifiable. Thats just some rubbish kind of logic. How to count something uncountable? Thats insane.

But the aether density might make a big difference regarding understanding how it all works. The funny thing is, there is really no proof for this.

The aether is way more evidenced than the existance of electron or photon. Neutrons and Protons are observable tho.

Another point against FE is that all the ancient "Indian" cultures in North, Central, and South America, from as long as thousands of years ago, write about the earth as though it were a sphere encircling the sun.

Yes. They were a very keen astronomers so they observed the true reality of the earth - that its concave. There were a lot of ancient astronomers believing that. Later on that knowledge was forgotten. Sadly because it was kept by a platonics and pitagorean secret societies and guarded from public knowledge. Many of those were persecuted by the church and such so the knowledge was forgotten.

p.s Btw I believe that the creator of space and time by magnetic forces is the God itself. One and undivisible. I know its unpopular belief novadays. Fuck it. Im not ashamed of it. We are all living on his as to say magnetic body as bacterias on some animal skin. As to say we are drowned in him. Thats how you can interpret the idea of

Joshua 1:9

"Have I not commanded you? Be strong and courageous. Do not be frightened, and do not be dismayed, for the Lord your God is with you wherever you go.”

1 Corinthians 3:16

"Do you not know that you are God's temple and that God's Spirit dwells in you?"

Psalm 23:4

Even though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil, for you are with me; your rod and your staff, they comfort me.

[notbatman]

Flat Earth balloon footage. -- https://youtu.be/sdU6j_RJ_II

[Przemax]

Flat Earth balloon footage. -- https://youtu.be/sdU6j_RJ_II

21 miles is too low to see the curvature yet. But yes globe earth have problem with explaining this. I say that nothing in this world is straight if its not manmade either its the light or curvature of the earth. Light and earth is basicly almost the same kind of curvature so they apear straight compared to eachother but only when they go parallel to the earth. On the higher altitudes from the earth the earth seems convex because the light is no longer paralllel to the earth surface.

In other words its an illusion - explanation who has problems with understanding a written word.

I have an impression that flat earthers only listen to confirmation what they think is real. They are acting like this child:



Its conspiracy im not listening lalalallala. No wonder most of the flat earthers are americans, the most infantile nation in history of the world ever.

If its a conspiracy make a pictures of flat earth from 80 miles altitude or your excuses are lame, and are just ranting of a spoiled american adult child. Jack Black is great at impersonificate the "american values":

[BitNow]

You show a love for science fiction.    

Can you stop posting useless comments in this thread: this thread is about Flat Earth, speak about that or go away.

Your trolling is not welcome.

"Science Vs Scientism"

"Flat Vs Globe"

"Faith Vs Reason"

...omissis...

Ill quote someone on from this thread some pages ago.

"Science motherfuckers. Do you speak it? "

As of yet I saw NO PROPER SCIENCE presented by flat earthers outside of rockets not working in the vacuum and being unlikely that earth rotates and airplanes moves unhindred. You have a lack of knowledge of observable facts about light, gravity, perspective, geometry, trigonometry and much much much more. Present one sentence that is valid and maybe someone might want to talk to you.

All you do is mentioning that someone is not legit. Ok maybe they are not. Present your position that is not internaly incoherent, because as of yet you just constantly contradict yourself. You might be perceptive a little but that doesnt make you speak science.

You haven't read my posts: I'm not someone else.


Best regards.

[Przemax]

You haven't read my posts: I'm not someone else.


Best regards.

Im sorry but who the fuck are you? I was just talking about the whole flat earth society. If you believe in the flat earth you agree with them no? Being silent is agreeing what total unscientific stuff your friends are spewing. Are you some kind of a special child? Ok fine with me.

"Science Vs Scientism"

"Flat Vs Globe"

"Faith Vs Reason"

Batman versus Superman. WTF is this shit? All i can see is creating facts vs facts. Period. Or creating facts vs creating facts retardfestival.

You cant be that stupid to think that faith is counter to reason. You just cant be. You say you believe in flat earth..... You fucking saying then your belief have no base on reason?

Everybody believes in something. I believe that my fiat money is not worthless. Is it not based on a reasoning? Ofcourse it is based on a reason because im using it every day. Jesus Christ....................................... How stupid can people be?

[notbatman]

^^^ FYI The Flat Earth Society is controlled opposition run by the globalists who use it promote strawman FE arguments and censor informative posts on their discussion forum.

[serbad]

... quack!

The globalist explanation for why things fall is "gravity" and can't explain how or why.

While back on Earth somebody who knows it's flat will explain that an object falls because it's denser than its surrounding medium. The guy back on Earth also knows the ground is negatively charged and the heavens are positively charged thus defining what is up and down.

And still you fail to understand that density is not a force.

Density can't act on an object, it is just a measurement of an object's mass/volume, some outside force must act on the object in order for it to move, in any direction.

So, in your world of a flat Earth, what is the force that acts on all objects that hold them to the Earth?

When air or any medium is displaced by an object there's a resulting force based on its density relative to that medium. If the object is less dense such as a helium balloon it rises or floats and if it's more dense like a led ball than it falls or sinks. The force that holds you to the Earth is air or water pressure.

So if the force that is being created is due to the density of an object relative to the medium it displaces, why do objects dropped from a height in air all accelerate at the same speed towards the Earth? If your model was correct, objects of higher density would create a greater force and consequently fall faster, this is not observable by anyone, anywhere on Earth.

It's the density of the medium that's responsible for the magnitude of the acceleration of an object, that's why objects of different densities fall at the same speed.

How so? There is a different moisture of the atmosphere and different density of the atmosphere relativly to the altitude and the weather. Hows so the gravitational acceleration is constant? And how so that the more you go below the sea level you have a higher pressure of water.

Please. Save your breath. You cant just invent empirical facts a new, you need to interpret them, otherwise you create your own realities.

Other than that the same concept of creating a force from the get go is unscientific as hell and proves your physical knowledge is low. Force is not something that is being created by action, to the contrary. If we would live in a Flat world we would be surrounded by a perpetum mobile devices of the unlimited energy that would be absolutely free. If only that would be possible. */activate a dream mode. Sell me your patent dear notbatman sir.

And if its a repulse for of the higher density objects by the lower density objects, then why is the repulsion always directed downwards? The only answer is because there is some kind of force (or "antiforce" directed upwards) working downwards other than repulsion. Its so fucking simple why cant you get it?

Btw is it just me or the concept of repulsion of higher density objects by lower density object seems counterfactual? Shouldnt that be the other way around?

Example a brick: has energy held within and has two energy fields adjacent to react with, these are the positive energy of the atmosphere and the negative of the earth it is sat on. If you isolate from the negative you will affect the energy within's polarization.

[Przemax]

... quack!

The globalist explanation for why things fall is "gravity" and can't explain how or why.

While back on Earth somebody who knows it's flat will explain that an object falls because it's denser than its surrounding medium. The guy back on Earth also knows the ground is negatively charged and the heavens are positively charged thus defining what is up and down.

And still you fail to understand that density is not a force.

Density can't act on an object, it is just a measurement of an object's mass/volume, some outside force must act on the object in order for it to move, in any direction.

So, in your world of a flat Earth, what is the force that acts on all objects that hold them to the Earth?

When air or any medium is displaced by an object there's a resulting force based on its density relative to that medium. If the object is less dense such as a helium balloon it rises or floats and if it's more dense like a led ball than it falls or sinks. The force that holds you to the Earth is air or water pressure.

So if the force that is being created is due to the density of an object relative to the medium it displaces, why do objects dropped from a height in air all accelerate at the same speed towards the Earth? If your model was correct, objects of higher density would create a greater force and consequently fall faster, this is not observable by anyone, anywhere on Earth.

It's the density of the medium that's responsible for the magnitude of the acceleration of an object, that's why objects of different densities fall at the same speed.

How so? There is a different moisture of the atmosphere and different density of the atmosphere relativly to the altitude and the weather. Hows so the gravitational acceleration is constant? And how so that the more you go below the sea level you have a higher pressure of water.

Please. Save your breath. You cant just invent empirical facts a new, you need to interpret them, otherwise you create your own realities.

Other than that the same concept of creating a force from the get go is unscientific as hell and proves your physical knowledge is low. Force is not something that is being created by action, to the contrary. If we would live in a Flat world we would be surrounded by a perpetum mobile devices of the unlimited energy that would be absolutely free. If only that would be possible. */activate a dream mode. Sell me your patent dear notbatman sir.

And if its a repulse for of the higher density objects by the lower density objects, then why is the repulsion always directed downwards? The only answer is because there is some kind of force (or "antiforce" directed upwards) working downwards other than repulsion. Its so fucking simple why cant you get it?

Btw is it just me or the concept of repulsion of higher density objects by lower density object seems counterfactual? Shouldnt that be the other way around?

Example a brick: has energy held within and has two energy fields adjacent to react with, these are the positive energy of the atmosphere and the negative of the earth it is sat on. If you isolate from the negative you will affect the energy within's polarization.

Im sorry to inform you but there is no such thing as positive or negative fields. If you had ment positive and negative charge those things does not exist as well, but its a useful concept to simplify the diaelectricity as a concept. For sure the part of positive energy from atmosphere is your loud thinking and has nothing to do with reality what so ever. I dont even understand what you were trying to say.

Energy fields does not exist as well.  fields are just that - fields or if you want to say a field of magnetic induction. Its not an electric fields - such is non existant. A magnet is a piece of metal that is has its electricity go away as to say and all that is left is the magnetic antielectric field aka magnetic rate of induction that has a direction of 90  degree (rule of the right hand) to the electric current that once was.  

A brick is just a loose comass of atoms, it produce no coherent field what so ever its not a magnet so I dont understand what you try to say. And a brick is not a condensor so it cannot store any electrical charge what so ever.

I have a feeling you are kind of confused on the subject. Its quite simple and complicated at the same time. Simple is that you have a inertia point, line or a plane. Inertia is as you would call in lay term antispace, a place where matter go as if their resting ground is there. Magnetic force creates the space. Antimagnetic force is as to say destroying space you can say it gravitates. Its a lot more complicated than that but its the simplest explanation I could give you. Its all about creating and destroying empty space by magnetism.

You can see that pnenomen when two powerlines are close to eachother when the power is on they gravitate towards eachother. Its because the magnetic inertia is between them as their magnetic induction colides in the middle. When the power is off they go towards their resting position.

Or other phenomen is that when you grab the electric wire you cant get it off. The official science says its because your muscle clutches. Not exactly. Eletricity is naturaly antispace antimagnetic phenomen so your hand actualy gravitate towards the electricity and you cant let go. Its all true but if you have enough of electrical resistancy you create a space and something similiar to explosion as resistancy produce magnetism out of electricity.

Either way flat earth has no explanation why the inertia plane would work on flat earth other than - God have made it, as most inertia planes try to naturaly at least curve itself as its natural shape in the universe.

[serbad]

... quack!

The globalist explanation for why things fall is "gravity" and can't explain how or why.

While back on Earth somebody who knows it's flat will explain that an object falls because it's denser than its surrounding medium. The guy back on Earth also knows the ground is negatively charged and the heavens are positively charged thus defining what is up and down.

And still you fail to understand that density is not a force.

Density can't act on an object, it is just a measurement of an object's mass/volume, some outside force must act on the object in order for it to move, in any direction.

So, in your world of a flat Earth, what is the force that acts on all objects that hold them to the Earth?

When air or any medium is displaced by an object there's a resulting force based on its density relative to that medium. If the object is less dense such as a helium balloon it rises or floats and if it's more dense like a led ball than it falls or sinks. The force that holds you to the Earth is air or water pressure.

So if the force that is being created is due to the density of an object relative to the medium it displaces, why do objects dropped from a height in air all accelerate at the same speed towards the Earth? If your model was correct, objects of higher density would create a greater force and consequently fall faster, this is not observable by anyone, anywhere on Earth.

It's the density of the medium that's responsible for the magnitude of the acceleration of an object, that's why objects of different densities fall at the same speed.

How so? There is a different moisture of the atmosphere and different density of the atmosphere relativly to the altitude and the weather. Hows so the gravitational acceleration is constant? And how so that the more you go below the sea level you have a higher pressure of water.

Please. Save your breath. You cant just invent empirical facts a new, you need to interpret them, otherwise you create your own realities.

Other than that the same concept of creating a force from the get go is unscientific as hell and proves your physical knowledge is low. Force is not something that is being created by action, to the contrary. If we would live in a Flat world we would be surrounded by a perpetum mobile devices of the unlimited energy that would be absolutely free. If only that would be possible. */activate a dream mode. Sell me your patent dear notbatman sir.

And if its a repulse for of the higher density objects by the lower density objects, then why is the repulsion always directed downwards? The only answer is because there is some kind of force (or "antiforce" directed upwards) working downwards other than repulsion. Its so fucking simple why cant you get it?

Btw is it just me or the concept of repulsion of higher density objects by lower density object seems counterfactual? Shouldnt that be the other way around?

Example a brick: has energy held within and has two energy fields adjacent to react with, these are the positive energy of the atmosphere and the negative of the earth it is sat on. If you isolate from the negative you will affect the energy within's polarization.

Im sorry to inform you but there is no such thing as positive or negative fields. If you had ment positive and negative charge those things does not exist as well, but its a useful concept to simplify the diaelectricity as a concept. For sure the part of positive energy from atmosphere is your loud thinking and has nothing to do with reality what so ever. I dont even understand what you were trying to say.

Energy fields does not exist as well.  fields are just that - fields or if you want to say a field of magnetic induction. Its not an electric fields - such is non existant. A magnet is a piece of metal that is has its electricity go away as to say and all that is left is the magnetic antielectric field aka magnetic rate of induction that has a direction of 90  degree (rule of the right hand) to the electric current that once was.  

A brick is just a loose comass of atoms, it produce no coherent field what so ever its not a magnet so I dont understand what you try to say. And a brick is not a condensor so it cannot store any electrical charge what so ever.

I have a feeling you are kind of confused on the subject. Its quite simple and complicated at the same time. Simple is that you have a inertia point, line or a plane. Inertia is as you would call in lay term antispace, a place where matter go as if their resting ground is there. Magnetic force creates the space. Antimagnetic force is as to say destroying space you can say it gravitates. Its a lot more complicated than that but its the simplest explanation I could give you. Its all about creating and destroying empty space by magnetism.

What do you mean fields don't exist !!!
All electrical engineering and most of physics uses primarily Maxwells "FIELD" equations.!!
The lightning in the sky is a strike from a positive field to a negative field.

You are bizarre....YOU can never call me confused.!!!
May i suggest Heaviside his work is easier on the brain.

A consequence of the mass–energy equivalence is that if a body is stationary, it still has some internal or intrinsic energy, called its rest energy, corresponding to its rest mass. When the body is in motion, its total energy is greater than its rest energy, and, equivalently, its total mass (also called relativistic mass in this context) is greater than its rest mass. This rest mass is also called the intrinsic or invariant mass because it remains the same regardless of this motion.

[Przemax]

What do you mean fields don't exist !!!
All electrical engineering and most of physics uses primarily Maxwells "FIELD" equations.!!

I have not said that fields does not exist!! Im saying they are magnetic and or electric fields. Not energy fields. I was just saying the correct name for them. And my bad there are electrical fields there not electromagnetic because the magnetic is different than electric.

The lightning in the sky is a strike from a positive field to a negative field.

Or negative to positive what ever. There is an electric discharge thats for sure, like you have when you touch your old tv screen. However you call that. If you know thats for sure that the air is positivly charged and ground is negativly charged - good for you. Im not so sure about that. I only know that the lighting phenomen has to do with mass of hot air goes upwards during the summer mostly creating some disturbances in the electric or magnetic fields.

A consequence of the mass–energy equivalence is that if a body is stationary, it still has some internal or intrinsic energy, called its rest energy, corresponding to its rest mass. When the body is in motion, its total energy is greater than its rest energy, and, equivalently, its total mass (also called relativistic mass in this context) is greater than its rest mass. This rest mass is also called the intrinsic or invariant mass because it remains the same regardless of this motion.

I dont know what you are talking about to be honest. Whats the implication of that jargon talk?

I only say about things I know. As far as I know there is no proof for existance of the electron or photon so I dont believe in existence of possitivly or negativly charged stuff. Maybe Im wrong. Propably Im, but I just dont believe that. If you are sure the electrons are countable outside of electric fields - good for you. Im not so sure as you are.

[BADecker]

You show a love for science fiction.    

Can you stop posting useless comments in this thread: this thread is about Flat Earth, speak about that or go away.

Your trolling is not welcome.

"Science Vs Scientism"

"Flat Vs Globe"

"Faith Vs Reason"

Can you stop posting useless comments in this thread: this thread is about Flat Earth, speak about that or go away vvv.

"So far you haven't shown any love for Science."


Best regards.

So far, every FE thing said has so many holes in it, that if it were Swiss cheese, a mouse wouldn't find enough food to stay alive.

[BADecker]

You haven't read my posts: I'm not someone else.


Best regards.

Im sorry but who the fuck are you? I was just talking about the whole flat earth society. If you believe in the flat earth you agree with them no? Being silent is agreeing what total unscientific stuff your friends are spewing. Are you some kind of a special child? Ok fine with me.

"Science Vs Scientism"

"Flat Vs Globe"

"Faith Vs Reason"

Batman versus Superman. WTF is this shit? All i can see is creating facts vs facts. Period. Or creating facts vs creating facts retardfestival.

You cant be that stupid to think that faith is counter to reason. You just cant be. You say you believe in flat earth..... You fucking saying then your belief have no base on reason?

Everybody believes in something. I believe that my fiat money is not worthless. Is it not based on a reasoning? Ofcourse it is based on a reason because im using it every day. Jesus Christ....................................... How stupid can people be?

BitNow is a 14-y-o child who claims a degree in some kind of science. Don't take her seriously.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wWlFFQjG_WE

Speaking about belief. Even the bible they claim supports flat earth clearly debunks it. Not that the circle of the earth that they claim have any other meaning that its the circle of rotation not necesserly the rotation of the earth but the rotation that the earth is involved with.

Sun is rising wether the earth its concave or convex, but guess what. Sun is not rising on the flat earth it rotates on the flat earth.

Not that it proves anything because science is less prone to misuderstanding, but Ive just gave this vidoe as a bonus type of video.

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I cant believe this topic has 200 pages! How is this even up to debate? flat earth lol

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I cant believe this topic has 200 pages! How is this even up to debate? flat earth lol

I wonder that myself. It makes me feel smart arguing with those guys. Its addictive I need to quit it.

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... quack!

The globalist explanation for why things fall is "gravity" and can't explain how or why.

While back on Earth somebody who knows it's flat will explain that an object falls because it's denser than its surrounding medium. The guy back on Earth also knows the ground is negatively charged and the heavens are positively charged thus defining what is up and down.

And still you fail to understand that density is not a force.

Density can't act on an object, it is just a measurement of an object's mass/volume, some outside force must act on the object in order for it to move, in any direction.

So, in your world of a flat Earth, what is the force that acts on all objects that hold them to the Earth?

When air or any medium is displaced by an object there's a resulting force based on its density relative to that medium. If the object is less dense such as a helium balloon it rises or floats and if it's more dense like a led ball than it falls or sinks. The force that holds you to the Earth is air or water pressure.

So if the force that is being created is due to the density of an object relative to the medium it displaces, why do objects dropped from a height in air all accelerate at the same speed towards the Earth? If your model was correct, objects of higher density would create a greater force and consequently fall faster, this is not observable by anyone, anywhere on Earth.

It's the density of the medium that's responsible for the magnitude of the acceleration of an object, that's why objects of different densities fall at the same speed.

How so? There is a different moisture of the atmosphere and different density of the atmosphere relativly to the altitude and the weather. Hows so the gravitational acceleration is constant? And how so that the more you go below the sea level you have a higher pressure of water.

Please. Save your breath. You cant just invent empirical facts a new, you need to interpret them, otherwise you create your own realities.

Other than that the same concept of creating a force from the get go is unscientific as hell and proves your physical knowledge is low. Force is not something that is being created by action, to the contrary. If we would live in a Flat world we would be surrounded by a perpetum mobile devices of the unlimited energy that would be absolutely free. If only that would be possible. */activate a dream mode. Sell me your patent dear notbatman sir.

And if its a repulse for of the higher density objects by the lower density objects why the repulsion is always directed downwards? The only answer is because there is some kind of force or "antiforce" directed upwards working on the down other than repulsion. Its so fucking simple why cant you get it?

He might be talking about the aether. There is very little known about the aether. It might have a greater or lesser density partially because of material that fills certain areas of it, and that it fills certain areas of. For example, the space between the electrons and nucleus of atoms is not empty. It is filled with the aether. The effect of the electrons and protons and neutrons on the aether within the atoms causes its density to change. The result is the same if we are simply considering mass. But the aether density might make a big difference regarding understanding how it all works. The funny thing is, there is really no proof for this. Even standard gravity theory has not really been proven.

The point is, we all can believe what we want. It hasn't been proven one way or the other. However, much less of FE theory (if there even is any FE theory) has been expressed. Mostly it is just a batch of informal ideas so far.

I believe in the aether but the aether dont go against the Newtons laws but makes them suplementary. The aether is just a space created by a magnetic forces not a creation force of magnetism. Space has no properties as Tesla have said. Aether is just a product of certain forces not a force in itself.

Aether have no density - its just fucking absurdal to say that something has density when it is unquantifiable. Thats just some rubbish kind of logic. How to count something uncountable? Thats insane.

But the aether density might make a big difference regarding understanding how it all works. The funny thing is, there is really no proof for this.

The aether is way more evidenced than the existance of electron or photon. Neutrons and Protons are observable tho.

Another point against FE is that all the ancient "Indian" cultures in North, Central, and South America, from as long as thousands of years ago, write about the earth as though it were a sphere encircling the sun.

Yes. They were a very keen astronomers so they observed the true reality of the earth - that its concave. There were a lot of ancient astronomers believing that. Later on that knowledge was forgotten. Sadly because it was kept by a platonics and pitagorean secret societies and guarded from public knowledge. Many of those were persecuted by the church and such so the knowledge was forgotten.

p.s Btw I believe that the creator of space and time by magnetic forces is the God itself. One and undivisible. I know its unpopular belief novadays. Fuck it. Im not ashamed of it. We are all living on his as to say magnetic body as bacterias on some animal skin. As to say we are drowned in him. Thats how you can interpret the idea of

Joshua 1:9

"Have I not commanded you? Be strong and courageous. Do not be frightened, and do not be dismayed, for the Lord your God is with you wherever you go.”

1 Corinthians 3:16

"Do you not know that you are God's temple and that God's Spirit dwells in you?"

Psalm 23:4

Even though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil, for you are with me; your rod and your staff, they comfort me.

Parallel universe theory suggests that the aether is made up of an infinite number of universes existing within the same space... the aether. The only thing separating them is a kind of universal vibration that is different universe to universe... dimension-like. In other words, the aether is a solid. The appearance of empty space exists only because we don't have any way to easily adapt to the different universal vibrations. However, these universes affect each other in minute ways. Such things as electrons and other particles are simply two or more universes having an affect on each other, an affect that is demonstrated as a particle in an additional universe.

Flat earth is definitely something belonging to the realm of naivety or foolishness. But like all people, FE people have some truths. The aether is one of them.