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February 13, 2016, 12:22:24 AM
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Chuckle. The fact that you get bent all out of shape, shows that you wouldn't be able to understand it if it were given to you. But, I'll help you. Google search:
1. "Cause and effect;"
2. "Complex universe;"
3. "Universal entropy."

As others have previously mentioned... stating this proves nothing to anyone... I fully understand these concepts and in no way does it imply or require God

If you wish to convince anyone... you MUST stop with the personal attacks and provide some fucking evidence to support your claim... otherwise you are simply a troll


By the way, Googling these things won't help much if you don't get into some of the sites and read what is said.

Also, watch the Illustra Media videos at https://www.youtube.com/user/IllustraMedia.

I have watched some of these videos, and like most Christian propaganda (yourself included), they do not understand the basics of what they are talking about... so of course they reach incorrect conclusions...

For example... in this video:
Case for a Creator - Biological Information Clip

Illustra Media makes the claim that DNA is simply too complicated to have been assembled out of nothing... therefore God...

Now, in reality, DNA did not come from nothing... so they are partially correct... DNA had several predecessors, which were simpler in form and function (RNA for example)

They also make the claim that "theories proposing that this information arose through the self-organizing power of chemicals in a primordial soup have repeatedly failed"... this is simply ignorance here... The Miller-Urey experiment proved this in 1952, and has been duplicated and verified many times since then...

Most recently, http://www.nasa.gov/content/nasa-ames-reproduces-the-building-blocks-of-life-in-laboratory
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We have demonstrated for the first time that we can make uracil, cytosine, and thymine, all three components of RNA and DNA, non-biologically in a laboratory under conditions found in space


If this is the of source of your misinformation, I understand why everything you say is so completely wrong
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February 13, 2016, 12:34:59 AM
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Chuckle. The fact that you get bent all out of shape, shows that you wouldn't be able to understand it if it were given to you. But, I'll help you. Google search:
1. "Cause and effect;"
2. "Complex universe;"
3. "Universal entropy."

As others have previously mentioned... stating this proves nothing to anyone... I fully understand these concepts and in no way does it imply or require God

If you wish to convince anyone... you MUST stop with the personal attacks and provide some fucking evidence to support your claim... otherwise you are simply a troll


By the way, Googling these things won't help much if you don't get into some of the sites and read what is said.

Also, watch the Illustra Media videos at https://www.youtube.com/user/IllustraMedia.

I have watched some of these videos, and like most Christian propaganda (yourself included), they do not understand the basics of what they are talking about... so of course they reach incorrect conclusions...

For example... in this video:
Case for a Creator - Biological Information Clip

Illustra Media makes the claim that DNA is simply too complicated to have been assembled out of nothing... therefore God...

Now, in reality, DNA did not come from nothing... so they are partially correct... DNA had several predecessors, which were simpler in form and function (RNA for example)

They also make the claim that "theories proposing that this information arose through the self-organizing power of chemicals in a primordial soup have repeatedly failed"... this is simply ignorance here... The Miller-Urey experiment proved this in 1952, and has been duplicated and verified many times since then...

Most recently, http://www.nasa.gov/content/nasa-ames-reproduces-the-building-blocks-of-life-in-laboratory
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We have demonstrated for the first time that we can make uracil, cytosine, and thymine, all three components of RNA and DNA, non-biologically in a laboratory under conditions found in space


If this is the of source of your misinformation, I understand why everything you say is so completely wrong

Tsk. Tsk. Got you backed into a corner. You are going off on political science tangents, because political science is the only thing that can prove something that is false to be true. It's call lying, one of the great parts of political science.

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February 13, 2016, 12:47:48 AM
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Tsk. Tsk. Got you backed into a corner. You are going off on political science tangents, because political science is the only thing that can prove something that is false to be true. It's call lying, one of the great parts of political science.

When you have lost a debate, do not resort to Ad-Hominem attacks... it makes you look childish, and proves you have no evidence to support your claims
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February 13, 2016, 02:56:14 AM
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Tsk. Tsk. Got you backed into a corner. You are going off on political science tangents, because political science is the only thing that can prove something that is false to be true. It's call lying, one of the great parts of political science.

When you have lost a debate, do not resort to Ad-Hominem attacks... it makes you look childish, and proves you have no evidence to support your claims

I'll try to remember that for a time when I do any debating. Thanks.

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February 13, 2016, 03:50:15 AM
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Forgive me for not finding charts with perfectly matching years, but I can see a negative correlation between IQ and Religiosity...


On the bright side, as people get smarter, they ditch that stone age religion nonsense...
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February 13, 2016, 06:02:42 PM
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On the bright side, as people get smarter, they ditch that stone age religion nonsense...

+1

That is exactly right. Education is the key.

I have no problem in people believing whatever they want. 

I have problem with their missionary work.  When they preach what they believe to others and invoke science to justify their hallucinations.

Science and religion should only intersect in mental research facilities.
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February 13, 2016, 07:37:06 PM
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It's mass brainwashing and it won't stop soon. What a world would it be without religion...

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February 13, 2016, 07:53:58 PM
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On the bright side, as people get smarter, they ditch that stone age religion nonsense...

+1

That is exactly right. Education is the key.

I have no problem in people believing whatever they want. 

I have problem with their missionary work.  When they preach what they believe to others and invoke science to justify their hallucinations.

Science and religion should only intersect in mental research facilities.


And this is exactly what happens - science and religion intersecting - when people believe that science theory is truth.

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February 13, 2016, 07:54:51 PM
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Do you spend much time coming up with these sci-fi ideas or do they come naturally to you?

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February 13, 2016, 08:02:41 PM
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Do you spend much time coming up with these sci-fi ideas or do they come naturally to you?

The scientists come up with them. That's why they call them theories.    Cool

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February 13, 2016, 08:05:09 PM
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Do you spend much time coming up with these sci-fi ideas or do they come naturally to you?

The scientists come up with them. That's why they call them theories.     Roll Eyes

So you're only parroting them back. I see.

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February 13, 2016, 08:17:23 PM
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Do you spend much time coming up with these sci-fi ideas or do they come naturally to you?

The scientists come up with them. That's why they call them theories.     Roll Eyes

So you're only parroting them back. I see.

Now that you think you see, you are really blind. If you said that you did not see, there might be hope for you.

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February 13, 2016, 08:54:31 PM
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Do you spend much time coming up with these sci-fi ideas or do they come naturally to you?

The scientists come up with them. That's why they call them theories.     Roll Eyes

So you're only parroting them back. I see.

Now that you think you see, you are really blind. If you said that you did not see, there might be hope for you.

Cool

And the fact that I don't believe in God means that God exists, right?
You're really funny. And I bet you would be funnier after a few beers.
But you only drink wine, isn't that so?

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February 13, 2016, 09:16:40 PM
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Do you spend much time coming up with these sci-fi ideas or do they come naturally to you?

The scientists come up with them. That's why they call them theories.     Roll Eyes

So you're only parroting them back. I see.

Now that you think you see, you are really blind. If you said that you did not see, there might be hope for you.

Cool

And the fact that I don't believe in God means that God exists, right?
You're really funny. And I bet you would be funnier after a few beers.
But you only drink wine, isn't that so?

Well, that might be so in your case.

However, I was only replying to the goofiness of eon89 in that reply.

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February 13, 2016, 10:56:56 PM
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On the bright side, as people get smarter, they ditch that stone age religion nonsense...

+1

That is exactly right. Education is the key.

I have no problem in people believing whatever they want.  

I have problem with their missionary work.  When they preach what they believe to others and invoke science to justify their hallucinations.

Science and religion should only intersect in mental research facilities.


And this is exactly what happens - science and religion intersecting - when people believe that science theory is truth.


Until you find a better method for separating fact from fiction than the scientific method... Science theory is the best it gets in regards to truth and reality...

Science theory trumps religious hypothesis every time... the primary difference being evidence (or lack thereof)

With proper education, religions like Christianity, Islam and Hinduism will go away... just like all the other ancient religions have...

Nobody believes in Zeus or Horus or Moloch anymore... soon they won't believe in Jesus either.
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February 14, 2016, 02:42:09 AM
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On the bright side, as people get smarter, they ditch that stone age religion nonsense...

+1

That is exactly right. Education is the key.

I have no problem in people believing whatever they want.  

I have problem with their missionary work.  When they preach what they believe to others and invoke science to justify their hallucinations.

Science and religion should only intersect in mental research facilities.


And this is exactly what happens - science and religion intersecting - when people believe that science theory is truth.


Until you find a better method for separating fact from fiction than the scientific method... Science theory is the best it gets in regards to truth and reality...
That is the same for anybody, and isn't even part of the issue.

Science theory is science fiction until it is proven to be fact. The science method doesn't have anything to do with believing science theory fiction to be truth when it is not known to be truth.


Science theory trumps religious hypothesis every time... the primary difference being evidence (or lack thereof)
Actually, not. Science theory is an unknown. Religion can be eye witness report. In this case religion trumps science theory... especially when there is great pain or great joy involved for the people involved in the theory or witnessing.


With proper education, religions like Christianity, Islam and Hinduism will go away... just like all the other ancient religions have...

Nobody believes in Zeus or Horus or Moloch anymore... soon they won't believe in Jesus either.

With proper education, scientists in fields other than the science of religion will see the truth of religion, since they are partaking of religion by believing the fictions of science theory anyway.

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February 14, 2016, 05:08:15 AM
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Now you are just trolling...

We've been over this theory vs hypothesis = fact vs guess a dozen times already... if you don't understand it, you never will
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February 14, 2016, 04:10:34 PM
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Now you are just trolling...

We've been over this theory vs hypothesis = fact vs guess a dozen times already... if you don't understand it, you never will

Your response is the example of a troll's response. Why? All you do is say that I am trolling, but you don't give a logical explanation of of why something I say is trolling.

The real proof that you are the troll is, I show you the proof that God exists, and you can't show where I am scientifically wrong in the proof. All that is left for you is to troll, since you don't like the "God" idea, but can't refute it.

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February 14, 2016, 04:13:32 PM
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He can't show anything wrong in your "scientific" proof because there isn't anything scientific about it.
In your "idea about God" that is.

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February 14, 2016, 04:18:20 PM
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He can't show anything wrong in your "scientific" proof because there isn't anything scientific about it.
In your "idea about God" that is.

An idea about God isn't necessarily scientific proof. One needs to focus on the proof, at least somewhat, if he wants to find ways to rebut it.

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