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Stop pretending you know anything about science. Earth is not a closed system, we receive energy from the Sun. Without Sun there would be no life. Emergence is responsible for ever increasing complexity of life on Earth. Look it up. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QItTWZc7hKsStop pretending you know anything about science. God is responsible for emergence, not the Sun.
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^^^ You're so full of crap, you make assumptions like heliocentrism, pretend evolution is a fact and make ludicrous claims about the age of the earth. Your god gravity has to be taken on faith as its unproven, without it geology and thus evolution is just not possible.
Dr. Kevorkian can help you with that sick feeling you've got.
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May 29, 2018, 09:19:40 AM |
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^^^ You're so full of crap, you make assumptions like heliocentrism, pretend evolution is a fact and make ludicrous claims about the age of the earth. Your god gravity has to be taken on faith as its unproven, without it geology and thus evolution is just not possible.
Dr. Kevorkian can help you with that sick feeling you've got.
How much do you weigh? Less than your mother.
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May 29, 2018, 10:45:13 AM |
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I asked you a serious question. How much do you think you weigh in lbs? And why do you think you weigh anything at all?
I don't care what your actual weight is. The question was to start you thinking why you have weight at all.
Why does your body exert a force on Earth?
You'll need to phrase it in a way he understands. I suggest you ask him how dense he is.
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May 29, 2018, 10:57:14 AM |
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^^^ You're so full of crap, you make assumptions like heliocentrism, pretend evolution is a fact and make ludicrous claims about the age of the earth. Your god gravity has to be taken on faith as its unproven, without it geology and thus evolution is just not possible.
Dr. Kevorkian can help you with that sick feeling you've got.
How much do you weigh? Less than your mother. I asked you a serious question. How much do you think you weigh in lbs? And why do you think you weigh anything at all? I don't care what your actual weight is. The question was to start you thinking why you have weight at all. Why does your body exert a force on Earth? An object (i.e. a person) that's more dense than the medium (the atmosphere) it's displacing gets pushed down, alternatively an object that's less dense (a helium balloon for e.g.) will get pushed up.
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May 29, 2018, 11:49:30 AM |
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^^^ You're so full of crap, you make assumptions like heliocentrism, pretend evolution is a fact and make ludicrous claims about the age of the earth. Your god gravity has to be taken on faith as its unproven, without it geology and thus evolution is just not possible.
Dr. Kevorkian can help you with that sick feeling you've got.
How much do you weigh? Less than your mother. I asked you a serious question. How much do you think you weigh in lbs? And why do you think you weigh anything at all? I don't care what your actual weight is. The question was to start you thinking why you have weight at all. Why does your body exert a force on Earth? An object (i.e. a person) that's more dense than the medium (the atmosphere) it's displacing gets pushed down, alternatively an object that's less dense (a helium balloon for e.g.) will get pushed up.Ok, lets follow your logic, when you are standing on the ground what causes the air to push you down? There's an electric field between the dome and the ground that acts on the atmosphere, this field also defines up and down.
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May 29, 2018, 02:45:36 PM |
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You already showed how little you understand by trying to debunk evolution with the 2nd law of thermodynamics and failed miserably, so stop.
You already showed how little you understand by thinking that I am trying to debunk evolution with the 2nd law of thermodynamics. You did, tho, you used entropy many times to say evolution is impossible and I proved you wrong everytime. Don't lie now.
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May 29, 2018, 02:55:39 PM |
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^^^ You're so full of crap, you make assumptions like heliocentrism, pretend evolution is a fact and make ludicrous claims about the age of the earth. Your god gravity has to be taken on faith as its unproven, without it geology and thus evolution is just not possible.
Dr. Kevorkian can help you with that sick feeling you've got.
How much do you weigh? Less than your mother. I asked you a serious question. How much do you think you weigh in lbs? And why do you think you weigh anything at all? I don't care what your actual weight is. The question was to start you thinking why you have weight at all. Why does your body exert a force on Earth? An object (i.e. a person) that's more dense than the medium (the atmosphere) it's displacing gets pushed down, alternatively an object that's less dense (a helium balloon for e.g.) will get pushed up. Ok, lets follow your logic, when you are standing on the ground what causes the air to push you down? There's an electric field between the dome and the ground that acts on the atmosphere, this field also defines up and down. So the forces of the electric field between the dome and the ground are pushing on you to keep you at the ground level? I'm not sure if dishonest argument tactics or you can just scroll up a bit; I've highlighted the relevant section. The atmosphere is being displaced and it reacts by pushing back (a helium balloon rises for the same reason), the reactive force vector follows the electric field lines to the ground in the case of a falling object. The electric field polarizes the atmosphere when it acts on it and without this polarization the pressure from the atmosphere (aether in the case of an evacuated chamber) would be evenly distributed across the entire surface and the object would not experience any linear acceleration.
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Astargath
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May 29, 2018, 02:57:24 PM |
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^^^ You're so full of crap, you make assumptions like heliocentrism, pretend evolution is a fact and make ludicrous claims about the age of the earth. Your god gravity has to be taken on faith as its unproven, without it geology and thus evolution is just not possible.
Dr. Kevorkian can help you with that sick feeling you've got.
How much do you weigh? Less than your mother. I asked you a serious question. How much do you think you weigh in lbs? And why do you think you weigh anything at all? I don't care what your actual weight is. The question was to start you thinking why you have weight at all. Why does your body exert a force on Earth? An object (i.e. a person) that's more dense than the medium (the atmosphere) it's displacing gets pushed down, alternatively an object that's less dense (a helium balloon for e.g.) will get pushed up. Ok, lets follow your logic, when you are standing on the ground what causes the air to push you down? There's an electric field between the dome and the ground that acts on the atmosphere, this field also defines up and down. So the forces of the electric field between the dome and the ground are pushing on you to keep you at the ground level? I'm not sure if dishonest argument tactics or you can just scroll up a bit; I've highlighted the relevant section. The atmosphere is being displaced and it reacts by pushing back (a helium balloon rises for the same reason), the reactive force vector follows the electric field lines to the ground in the case of a falling object. The electric field polarizes the atmosphere when it acts on it and without this polarization the pressure from the atmosphere (aether in the case of an evacuated chamber) would be evenly distributed across the entire surface and the object would not experience any linear acceleration.There is no scientific model for any of the bullshit you just wrote, I can't even begin to imagine how fucked up your brain is to even come up with this bullshit in the first place
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notbatman
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May 29, 2018, 03:00:41 PM |
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^^^ Density & buoyancy models it quite nicely.
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May 29, 2018, 03:05:50 PM |
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^^^ Density & buoyancy models it quite nicely.
No it doesn't at all. https://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=69081.0Anyone who actually understands buoyancy in the most basic sense of the word, knows that you can't have buoyancy without gravity, because there was never a force to exert the pressure in the first place
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May 29, 2018, 03:21:08 PM |
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^^^ Density & buoyancy models it quite nicely.
No it doesn't at all. https://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=69081.0Anyone who actually understands buoyancy in the most basic sense of the word, knows that you can't have buoyancy without gravity, because there was never a force to exert the pressure in the first place The Flat Earth Society are a bunch of crackpots paid for by the government to discredit the subject; it's controlled opposition propaganda. Using your logic boats couldn't float until Newton came along with his theory developed to explain the motion of celestial objects in the heliocentric model.
The atmosphere is exerting the pressure, do you think it gets displaced and there's no reaction?
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May 29, 2018, 03:44:07 PM |
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^^^ You're so full of crap, you make assumptions like heliocentrism, pretend evolution is a fact and make ludicrous claims about the age of the earth. Your god gravity has to be taken on faith as its unproven, without it geology and thus evolution is just not possible.
Dr. Kevorkian can help you with that sick feeling you've got.
How much do you weigh? Less than your mother. I asked you a serious question. How much do you think you weigh in lbs? And why do you think you weigh anything at all? I don't care what your actual weight is. The question was to start you thinking why you have weight at all. Why does your body exert a force on Earth? An object (i.e. a person) that's more dense than the medium (the atmosphere) it's displacing gets pushed down, alternatively an object that's less dense (a helium balloon for e.g.) will get pushed up. Ok, lets follow your logic, when you are standing on the ground what causes the air to push you down? There's an electric field between the dome and the ground that acts on the atmosphere, this field also defines up and down. So the forces of the electric field between the dome and the ground are pushing on you to keep you at the ground level? I'm not sure if dishonest argument tactics or you can just scroll up a bit; I've highlighted the relevant section. The atmosphere is being displaced and it reacts by pushing back (a helium balloon rises for the same reason), the reactive force vector follows the electric field lines to the ground in the case of a falling object. The electric field polarizes the atmosphere when it acts on it and without this polarization the pressure from the atmosphere (aether in the case of an evacuated chamber) would be evenly distributed across the entire surface and the object would not experience any linear acceleration.Wait, before you divert, let's focus on the example I gave you: You are standing on the ground, you are not moving. Is the force of the electric field acting on you or on the air? What is the polarity of the dome and the ground? How about you just got tossed out of a helicopter instead? The electric field is polarizing the air, the polarized air then pushes on you because you've displaced it and you accelerate in the direction of the polarization instead of just being squished, that is at least until you hit the ground.
The domes surface is polarized with a positive charge (+, electric holes) this polarization induces a negative charge (-, electrons) in the ground.
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May 29, 2018, 11:06:41 PM |
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^^^ You're so full of crap, you make assumptions like heliocentrism, pretend evolution is a fact and make ludicrous claims about the age of the earth. Your god gravity has to be taken on faith as its unproven, without it geology and thus evolution is just not possible.
Dr. Kevorkian can help you with that sick feeling you've got.
How much do you weigh? Less than your mother. I asked you a serious question. How much do you think you weigh in lbs? And why do you think you weigh anything at all? I don't care what your actual weight is. The question was to start you thinking why you have weight at all. Why does your body exert a force on Earth? An object (i.e. a person) that's more dense than the medium (the atmosphere) it's displacing gets pushed down, alternatively an object that's less dense (a helium balloon for e.g.) will get pushed up. Ok, lets follow your logic, when you are standing on the ground what causes the air to push you down? There's an electric field between the dome and the ground that acts on the atmosphere, this field also defines up and down. So the forces of the electric field between the dome and the ground are pushing on you to keep you at the ground level? I'm not sure if dishonest argument tactics or you can just scroll up a bit; I've highlighted the relevant section. The atmosphere is being displaced and it reacts by pushing back (a helium balloon rises for the same reason), the reactive force vector follows the electric field lines to the ground in the case of a falling object. The electric field polarizes the atmosphere when it acts on it and without this polarization the pressure from the atmosphere (aether in the case of an evacuated chamber) would be evenly distributed across the entire surface and the object would not experience any linear acceleration.Wait, before you divert, let's focus on the example I gave you: You are standing on the ground, you are not moving. Is the force of the electric field acting on you or on the air? What is the polarity of the dome and the ground? How about you just got tossed out of a helicopter instead? The electric field is polarizing the air, the polarized air then pushes on you because you've displaced it and you accelerate in the direction of the polarization instead of just being squished, that is at least until you hit the ground.
The domes surface is polarized with a positive charge (+, electric holes) this polarization induces a negative charge (-, electrons) in the ground. So all the objects on the ground are pushed down by the positively charged air? The domes surface is electrically polarized, this creates a dipole with the inside dielectric semiconductor substrate layer of the dome creating the source of positive charge (electron holes(+)). This charge induces an opposite negative charge (electrons(-)) in any conductive materials (the earth) within range of its electric field. This field consists of twisted lines that form solenoidal tubes of aether that induce the opposing charge in a conductor. The air is a poor conductor(-) but highly dielectric(+) and the field lines pass displacement current holes through their induction lines. This current creates earths magnetic field with the N pole point at the center and the S pole a ring encompassing the dome base.
It's correct to say the air is polarized by the electric field with the exception being the ionosphere that's in close proximity to the dome where the air becomes ionized i.e. a charged plasma state. Objects on the ground are pushed down by the pressure of all the polarized air they've displaced.
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May 30, 2018, 02:22:13 AM |
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You already showed how little you understand by trying to debunk evolution with the 2nd law of thermodynamics and failed miserably, so stop.
You already showed how little you understand by thinking that I am trying to debunk evolution with the 2nd law of thermodynamics. You did, tho, you used entropy many times to say evolution is impossible and I proved you wrong everytime. Don't lie now. Did you notice that your focus is a bit off topic? In addition, it is off topic for itself. Why? Because you aren't asking about entropy and evolution. Rather you are asking us to be distracted by your political science = trolling.
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May 30, 2018, 02:24:18 AM |
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BTW, 2nd law of thermodynamics applies to closed systems, Earth is an open system.
The universe is a closed system.
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^^^ You're so full of crap, you make assumptions like heliocentrism, pretend evolution is a fact and make ludicrous claims about the age of the earth. Your god gravity has to be taken on faith as its unproven, without it geology and thus evolution is just not possible.
Dr. Kevorkian can help you with that sick feeling you've got.
How much do you weigh? Less than your mother. I asked you a serious question. How much do you think you weigh in lbs? And why do you think you weigh anything at all? I don't care what your actual weight is. The question was to start you thinking why you have weight at all. Why does your body exert a force on Earth? An object (i.e. a person) that's more dense than the medium (the atmosphere) it's displacing gets pushed down, alternatively an object that's less dense (a helium balloon for e.g.) will get pushed up. Ok, lets follow your logic, when you are standing on the ground what causes the air to push you down? There's an electric field between the dome and the ground that acts on the atmosphere, this field also defines up and down. So the forces of the electric field between the dome and the ground are pushing on you to keep you at the ground level? I'm not sure if dishonest argument tactics or you can just scroll up a bit; I've highlighted the relevant section. The atmosphere is being displaced and it reacts by pushing back (a helium balloon rises for the same reason), the reactive force vector follows the electric field lines to the ground in the case of a falling object. The electric field polarizes the atmosphere when it acts on it and without this polarization the pressure from the atmosphere (aether in the case of an evacuated chamber) would be evenly distributed across the entire surface and the object would not experience any linear acceleration.Wait, before you divert, let's focus on the example I gave you: You are standing on the ground, you are not moving. Is the force of the electric field acting on you or on the air? What is the polarity of the dome and the ground? How about you just got tossed out of a helicopter instead? The electric field is polarizing the air, the polarized air then pushes on you because you've displaced it and you accelerate in the direction of the polarization instead of just being squished, that is at least until you hit the ground.
The domes surface is polarized with a positive charge (+, electric holes) this polarization induces a negative charge (-, electrons) in the ground. So all the objects on the ground are pushed down by the positively charged air? The domes surface is electrically polarized, this creates a dipole with the inside dielectric semiconductor substrate layer of the dome creating the source of positive charge (electron holes(+)). This charge induces an opposite negative charge (electrons(-)) in any conductive materials (the earth) within range of its electric field. This field consists of twisted lines that form solenoidal tubes of aether that induce the opposing charge in a conductor. The air is a poor conductor(-) but highly dielectric(+) and the field lines pass displacement current holes through their induction lines. This current creates earths magnetic field with the N pole point at the center and the S pole a ring encompassing the dome base.
It's correct to say the air is polarized by the electric field with the exception being the ionosphere that's in close proximity to the dome where the air becomes ionized i.e. a charged plasma state. Objects on the ground are pushed down by the pressure of all the polarized air they've displaced. We are almost there, bear with me. So it is not the force of the electric field that acts on air molecules to exert force on the object on the ground? If it the electric force, let me know, and I'll give you a checkmate. But let's continue with your air pressure idea. A couple more questions: 1. What is the air pressure around you? 2. How much do you weigh? 3. Put a table in your room, inside your house. The "pressure of all polarized air" would be exerting force on all surfaces of the table, or just the top of the table? How would the table stay on the floor? Air pressure would be acting on the table from all directions so it would float. Not stay on the floor. What happens if you lift the table 1" and release it. Why does it drop to the floor? Does the "air pressure" increase when you lift the table 1"? 4. If you have two bricks on the ground next to each other and they are of the same size but one made out of gold the other made out of steel, the force of the "pressure of all polarized air that they have displaced" will be the same because they are of the same size, right? But when we weigh them, their weight (force they exert on Earth) is different. Gold brick exerts stronger force on the ground. Why? The air pressure is the same around them. If the air pressure is not the same, then you'll need different pressures around different objects, you'll be crashed to the ground if you walk by a heavy delivery truck or some other heavy object. Try it to walk by a heavy object see if your weight changes. ^^^ Gravity is a prerequisite for atheism and I can show there's better more rational explanations with science that can be measured and tested. Gravity relies on laughable proofs like heavy balls in a shed to prop itself up, it's an unproven theory created to explain the motions of celestial objects in the preposterous heliocentric theory. We're drifting a bit off topic here, my point is we're inside an engineered structure, we are also engineered creations. Atheism is a way of attacking the creator and his creation through the use of information warfare. To answer your questions: 1. Your question is unclear, do you want an answer in PSI? 2. Already answered; less than your mother. 3. The table is being pushed down. 4. The gold brick is more dense.
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^^^ You're so full of crap, you make assumptions like heliocentrism, pretend evolution is a fact and make ludicrous claims about the age of the earth. Your god gravity has to be taken on faith as its unproven, without it geology and thus evolution is just not possible.
Dr. Kevorkian can help you with that sick feeling you've got.
How much do you weigh? Less than your mother. I asked you a serious question. How much do you think you weigh in lbs? And why do you think you weigh anything at all? I don't care what your actual weight is. The question was to start you thinking why you have weight at all. Why does your body exert a force on Earth? An object (i.e. a person) that's more dense than the medium (the atmosphere) it's displacing gets pushed down, alternatively an object that's less dense (a helium balloon for e.g.) will get pushed up. Ok, lets follow your logic, when you are standing on the ground what causes the air to push you down? There's an electric field between the dome and the ground that acts on the atmosphere, this field also defines up and down. So the forces of the electric field between the dome and the ground are pushing on you to keep you at the ground level? I'm not sure if dishonest argument tactics or you can just scroll up a bit; I've highlighted the relevant section. The atmosphere is being displaced and it reacts by pushing back (a helium balloon rises for the same reason), the reactive force vector follows the electric field lines to the ground in the case of a falling object. The electric field polarizes the atmosphere when it acts on it and without this polarization the pressure from the atmosphere (aether in the case of an evacuated chamber) would be evenly distributed across the entire surface and the object would not experience any linear acceleration.Wait, before you divert, let's focus on the example I gave you: You are standing on the ground, you are not moving. Is the force of the electric field acting on you or on the air? What is the polarity of the dome and the ground? How about you just got tossed out of a helicopter instead? The electric field is polarizing the air, the polarized air then pushes on you because you've displaced it and you accelerate in the direction of the polarization instead of just being squished, that is at least until you hit the ground.
The domes surface is polarized with a positive charge (+, electric holes) this polarization induces a negative charge (-, electrons) in the ground. So all the objects on the ground are pushed down by the positively charged air? The domes surface is electrically polarized, this creates a dipole with the inside dielectric semiconductor substrate layer of the dome creating the source of positive charge (electron holes(+)). This charge induces an opposite negative charge (electrons(-)) in any conductive materials (the earth) within range of its electric field. This field consists of twisted lines that form solenoidal tubes of aether that induce the opposing charge in a conductor. The air is a poor conductor(-) but highly dielectric(+) and the field lines pass displacement current holes through their induction lines. This current creates earths magnetic field with the N pole point at the center and the S pole a ring encompassing the dome base.
It's correct to say the air is polarized by the electric field with the exception being the ionosphere that's in close proximity to the dome where the air becomes ionized i.e. a charged plasma state. Objects on the ground are pushed down by the pressure of all the polarized air they've displaced. We are almost there, bear with me. So it is not the force of the electric field that acts on air molecules to exert force on the object on the ground? If it the electric force, let me know, and I'll give you a checkmate. But let's continue with your air pressure idea. A couple more questions: 1. What is the air pressure around you? 2. How much do you weigh? 3. Put a table in your room, inside your house. The "pressure of all polarized air" would be exerting force on all surfaces of the table, or just the top of the table? How would the table stay on the floor? Air pressure would be acting on the table from all directions so it would float. Not stay on the floor. What happens if you lift the table 1" and release it. Why does it drop to the floor? Does the "air pressure" increase when you lift the table 1"? 4. If you have two bricks on the ground next to each other and they are of the same size but one made out of gold the other made out of steel, the force of the "pressure of all polarized air that they have displaced" will be the same because they are of the same size, right? But when we weigh them, their weight (force they exert on Earth) is different. Gold brick exerts stronger force on the ground. Why? The air pressure is the same around them. If the air pressure is not the same, then you'll need different pressures around different objects, you'll be crashed to the ground if you walk by a heavy delivery truck or some other heavy object. Try it to walk by a heavy object see if your weight changes. ^^^ Gravity is a prerequisite for atheism and I can show there's better more rational explanations with science that can be measured and tested. Gravity relies on laughable proofs like heavy balls in a shed to prop itself up, it's an unproven theory created to explain the motions of celestial objects in the preposterous heliocentric theory. We're drifting a bit off topic here, my point is we're inside an engineered structure, we are also engineered creations. Atheism is a way of attacking the creator and his creation through the use of information warfare. To answer your questions: 1. Your question is unclear, do you want an answer in PSI? 2. Already answered; less than your mother. 3. The table is being pushed down. 4. The gold brick is more dense. Uhh, no more complex answers, huh? Did your source run out of bullshit answers? Seems to me like you are giving up now.
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May 30, 2018, 09:22:53 AM |
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BTW, 2nd law of thermodynamics applies to closed systems, Earth is an open system.
The universe is a closed system. And here we go, showing again that you don't understand that the earth is an open system and it doesn't matter if the universe is not. It's relevant because it shows you don't understand science most of the times. Like that time you linked an article of answers in genesis where it said not to use that argument against evolution and you did LOL.
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Once, religion had an important place in society: It served a few important roles, primarily teaching moral values and creating tight-knit communities. Modernity changed the equation a bit - you no longer need the Bible or the Quoran to tell you how to behave since those all-important values have become an inherent part of our culture today. The primary reason people reject religion is science - or, in other words, if you embrace a scientific outlook and approach to life then religion usually doesn't make any sense. But, "Religion" can have many definitions, and does not have to include a "god". For example, I believe Bitcoin is a type of religion (some call it Satoshism, or other such names) for the modern age. If you look at various local Bitcoin communities, you can see all the hallmarks of a cult. There's also dataism ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dataism) but I will let you explore that yourself. In this context, religion can be something even atheists can subscribe to.
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