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July 28, 2019, 08:06:36 AM
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Ireland would not rank among the top 15 teams in cricket (if all of them had test status), and bowling them out for 38 can't be taken as a measurement for the ferocity of the English attack. You should not forget the fact that the English bowlers conceded 200 plus during the first innings. I am still mad at England for robbing the world cup from a more deserving team. I just hope that the Aussies will teach them a lesson and show how to play ethically.
I am equally mad with the bullshit result of the World Cup, but the blame should fall completely on ICC and the umpires since England were basically handed the trophy at the end of the day.

Also, ethics is clearly not the strong point of the Aussies as we have seen over the years, but I just wanted to explain how the current England lineup can perform even under intense pressure even if its against a team like Ireland.

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July 28, 2019, 12:29:18 PM
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Is this the first time that Steve Smith and David Warner are playing a Test-format match after their ban?
Probably, because they came back to the team couple of days before the world cup. I can't remember if there was any test matches before world cup.

I'm sure Warner and Smith come straight back in but not sure about Cameron Bancroft as they might want Finch to open with Warner. It will be interesting to see which team the selectors pick for the first test match.

Not sure if Finch will play or not but Khawaja would be the preferable player for opening. Finch is more a ODI player than test.

I am sure they are going to prefer Finch instead of Khawaja because he is also performing good in recent matches and deserve this opportunity even Khawaja is also not bad at all but Finch and Warner can do much better as they already done in ODI's. But we have one more person Bancroft he is also recalled so this is very interesting as now they have more openers lets see how they are going to manage this all in next few days.
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July 28, 2019, 04:58:45 PM
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Can understand why many people feel that Australia can win this Ashes series especially after watching England collapse in their 1st innings against Ireland, but the manner in which they fought back proves how fearsome they can be.

The current England lineup is something else thanks to the selectors focusing on strike rate primarily which is why my bet is on England to win the Ashes this year.


England did failed in the first inning against Ireland but do you think that they will always fail ? That was one bad day and that is gone. Australia should not take England easy and should not be overconfident with the England current performance in a single match.
Also when you have a strong opposition in front of you, you tend to play with more vigilance and will try to perform much better.


Feel so sad for the Ireland who would have never imagined that they would fail so miserably after their confidence on cloud nine by taking huge lead in 1st innings. England not only won the match but also crushed their confidence badly that resulted in all out for just score of 38.
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July 28, 2019, 05:48:52 PM
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Can understand why many people feel that Australia can win this Ashes series especially after watching England collapse in their 1st innings against Ireland, but the manner in which they fought back proves how fearsome they can be.

The current England lineup is something else thanks to the selectors focusing on strike rate primarily which is why my bet is on England to win the Ashes this year.


England did failed in the first inning against Ireland but do you think that they will always fail ? That was one bad day and that is gone. Australia should not take England easy and should not be overconfident with the England current performance in a single match.
Also when you have a strong opposition in front of you, you tend to play with more vigilance and will try to perform much better.


Feel so sad for the Ireland who would have never imagined that they would fail so miserably after their confidence on cloud nine by taking huge lead in 1st innings. England not only won the match but also crushed their confidence badly that resulted in all out for just score of 38.

If Ireland have won this match they gets a big positive boosting that could make them face the further matches more strong. Now the result gives them a learning, as well the prior preparations that needs to be done before facing any leading team. Anyhow it is England who once again proved to the world they're the champions.

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July 28, 2019, 10:48:49 PM
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Is this the first time that Steve Smith and David Warner are playing a Test-format match after their ban?
Probably, because they came back to the team couple of days before the world cup. I can't remember if there was any test matches before world cup.

I'm sure Warner and Smith come straight back in but not sure about Cameron Bancroft as they might want Finch to open with Warner. It will be interesting to see which team the selectors pick for the first test match.

Not sure if Finch will play or not but Khawaja would be the preferable player for opening. Finch is more a ODI player than test.

I am sure they are going to prefer Finch instead of Khawaja because he is also performing good in recent matches and deserve this opportunity even Khawaja is also not bad at all but Finch and Warner can do much better as they already done in ODI's. But we have one more person Bancroft he is also recalled so this is very interesting as now they have more openers lets see how they are going to manage this all in next few days.

The problem the Australian selectors have is that Warner and Finch both have the same game style which doesn't really suite test match cricket. For ODI and T20 its a perfect combination but for test match cricket I think one has to miss out and that will most likely be Finch. It then leaves Bancroft and Khawaja as the other opener, Khawaja has been in good form and played pretty well in previous test matches so I think he gets the spot ahead of Bancroft for the first test match. If things don't go to well then we could see some changes for the second test but I think the openers will be Warner and  Khawaja.

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July 29, 2019, 07:38:45 AM
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Bangladesh have lost second consecutive match against SL and due to this they have lost the series as it was 3 match series and behind by 2-0 . Bangladesh will now to play for pride their last match and SL will like to white wash the series and end on a positive note .

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July 29, 2019, 08:14:11 AM
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Bangladesh have lost second consecutive match against SL and due to this they have lost the series as it was 3 match series and behind by 2-0 . Bangladesh will now to play for pride their last match and SL will like to white wash the series and end on a positive note .
I was wondering what is wrong with Bangladesh as they are not even making a fighting chance in both the concluded matches and now i understood that they are playing in Srilanka and the teams that play in their own back ground perform better than the tourists, but before the series i thought Bangladesh will give a better performance considering their performance in the world cup, but Srilanka outperformed in every department in both the matches.
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July 29, 2019, 08:32:00 AM
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I am sure they are going to prefer Finch instead of Khawaja because he is also performing good in recent matches and deserve this opportunity even Khawaja is also not bad at all but Finch and Warner can do much better as they already done in ODI's. But we have one more person Bancroft he is also recalled so this is very interesting as now they have more openers lets see how they are going to manage this all in next few days.

I agree with @vella's reasoning about Warner and Finch batting style and would like to add that Finch failed to perform against Seaming Red Ball so far (he didn't played much but still) , plus i doubt that he can face likes of Broad and Anderson ( word is he's fit to play Ashes). on the other hand his competitor Usman Khwaja is proper Test Opener Batsman in Australian squad.

In short Warner and Khwaja should be go to opening pair for OZ.

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July 29, 2019, 03:03:13 PM
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Bangladesh have lost second consecutive match against SL and due to this they have lost the series as it was 3 match series and behind by 2-0 . Bangladesh will now to play for pride their last match and SL will like to white wash the series and end on a positive note .

It is a battle for supremacy. Sri Lanka were the world champions once, but their standards have come down by a lot (in part due to the civil war and the political uncertainty). On the other hand, Bangladesh has shown a lot of promise recently, but still they are unable to compete against the big three. India has cemented its place as the no.1 team from South Asia. Bangladesh will be aiming to become no.2, after displacing Sri Lanka and Pakistan.
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July 29, 2019, 04:52:51 PM
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Bangladesh have lost second consecutive match against SL and due to this they have lost the series as it was 3 match series and behind by 2-0 . Bangladesh will now to play for pride their last match and SL will like to white wash the series and end on a positive note .

It is a battle for supremacy. Sri Lanka were the world champions once, but their standards have come down by a lot (in part due to the civil war and the political uncertainty). On the other hand, Bangladesh has shown a lot of promise recently, but still they are unable to compete against the big three. India has cemented its place as the no.1 team from South Asia. Bangladesh will be aiming to become no.2, after displacing Sri Lanka and Pakistan.
Bangladesh to be the no.2 from South Asia takes more time. India, Pakistan and Sri Lanka has secured its position in the top. Bangladesh comes up with outrageous performance, but there is very low consistency in winning. Bangladesh has got good players in all the places, but the experience lacks in most of the matches.

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July 29, 2019, 04:57:34 PM
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Bangladesh have lost second consecutive match against SL and due to this they have lost the series as it was 3 match series and behind by 2-0 . Bangladesh will now to play for pride their last match and SL will like to white wash the series and end on a positive note .

It is a battle for supremacy. Sri Lanka were the world champions once, but their standards have come down by a lot (in part due to the civil war and the political uncertainty). On the other hand, Bangladesh has shown a lot of promise recently, but still they are unable to compete against the big three. India has cemented its place as the no.1 team from South Asia. Bangladesh will be aiming to become no.2, after displacing Sri Lanka and Pakistan.
Bangladesh to be the no.2 from South Asia takes more time. India, Pakistan and Sri Lanka has secured its position in the top. Bangladesh comes up with outrageous performance, but there is very low consistency in winning. Bangladesh has got good players in all the places, but the experience lacks in most of the matches.
Now experience is not problem for them biggest problem is they have not good and match winning players like Shakib they need to do some work in this as now they are very good and competitive side but lake of genuine problems just Shakib missing and they are playing like shit which is really matter of shame.
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July 29, 2019, 05:01:07 PM
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Bangladesh have lost second consecutive match against SL and due to this they have lost the series as it was 3 match series and behind by 2-0 . Bangladesh will now to play for pride their last match and SL will like to white wash the series and end on a positive note .

It is a battle for supremacy. Sri Lanka were the world champions once, but their standards have come down by a lot (in part due to the civil war and the political uncertainty). On the other hand, Bangladesh has shown a lot of promise recently, but still they are unable to compete against the big three. India has cemented its place as the no.1 team from South Asia. Bangladesh will be aiming to become no.2, after displacing Sri Lanka and Pakistan.
Bangladesh to be the no.2 from South Asia takes more time. India, Pakistan and Sri Lanka has secured its position in the top. Bangladesh comes up with outrageous performance, but there is very low consistency in winning. Bangladesh has got good players in all the places, but the experience lacks in most of the matches.

I couldn't fully agree with you. Bangladesh has 5 players who played even World cup 2007. Shakib, Mash, Mahmudullah are playing in the Bangladesh team for 10+ years. The same goes for Mushi and Tamim. They are all senior players who performing well for the last few years. I don't think they are inexperienced but the way they are showing performance in the last few matches looks they are new to the cricket world. I am very disappointed to see the results of the last few matches. Hopefully, soon they will come back strongly.

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July 29, 2019, 05:52:48 PM
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Bangladesh have lost second consecutive match against SL and due to this they have lost the series as it was 3 match series and behind by 2-0 . Bangladesh will now to play for pride their last match and SL will like to white wash the series and end on a positive note .

It is a battle for supremacy. Sri Lanka were the world champions once, but their standards have come down by a lot (in part due to the civil war and the political uncertainty). On the other hand, Bangladesh has shown a lot of promise recently, but still they are unable to compete against the big three. India has cemented its place as the no.1 team from South Asia. Bangladesh will be aiming to become no.2, after displacing Sri Lanka and Pakistan.

SL  standards have fallen not due to political uncertainty but due to all top players retiring in almost similar time like Dilshan, Sangakara, Jayawardhane and thus the SL team could not replace that quality with any of the other players. they dd not had backup who could have replaced them.
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July 29, 2019, 09:55:02 PM
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Bangladesh have lost second consecutive match against SL and due to this they have lost the series as it was 3 match series and behind by 2-0 . Bangladesh will now to play for pride their last match and SL will like to white wash the series and end on a positive note .

It is a battle for supremacy. Sri Lanka were the world champions once, but their standards have come down by a lot (in part due to the civil war and the political uncertainty). On the other hand, Bangladesh has shown a lot of promise recently, but still they are unable to compete against the big three. India has cemented its place as the no.1 team from South Asia. Bangladesh will be aiming to become no.2, after displacing Sri Lanka and Pakistan.
Bangladesh to be the no.2 from South Asia takes more time. India, Pakistan and Sri Lanka has secured its position in the top. Bangladesh comes up with outrageous performance, but there is very low consistency in winning. Bangladesh has got good players in all the places, but the experience lacks in most of the matches.

I couldn't fully agree with you. Bangladesh has 5 players who played even World cup 2007. Shakib, Mash, Mahmudullah are playing in the Bangladesh team for 10+ years. The same goes for Mushi and Tamim. They are all senior players who performing well for the last few years. I don't think they are inexperienced but the way they are showing performance in the last few matches looks they are new to the cricket world. I am very disappointed to see the results of the last few matches. Hopefully, soon they will come back strongly.

Sri Lanka is always good in their home turf, and in Bangladesh Shakib and Liton is not playing, they were backbone of their team in World Cup, Don't worry about Bangladesh they will recover soon and will be good. They just require some fresh bowler, their bowling is not good at all.

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July 29, 2019, 10:36:09 PM
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I am sure they are going to prefer Finch instead of Khawaja because he is also performing good in recent matches and deserve this opportunity even Khawaja is also not bad at all but Finch and Warner can do much better as they already done in ODI's. But we have one more person Bancroft he is also recalled so this is very interesting as now they have more openers lets see how they are going to manage this all in next few days.

I agree with @vella's reasoning about Warner and Finch batting style and would like to add that Finch failed to perform against Seaming Red Ball so far (he didn't played much but still) , plus i doubt that he can face likes of Broad and Anderson ( word is he's fit to play Ashes). on the other hand his competitor Usman Khwaja is proper Test Opener Batsman in Australian squad.

In short Warner and Khwaja should be go to opening pair for OZ.

That's right mate, having two similar batsman open in test matches just doesn't work. For ODI and T20 it is perfect as they can get the team off to a flying start but test match cricket is completely different and we have seen in the past that having an attacking batsman like Warner and a batsman that takes their time like Khawaja seems to be a good opening combination. We have seen this with many teams over the years so that is why I think the selectors will leave Finch out and if Warner has a bad match then Finch might come in and replace him in the second test match.

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July 29, 2019, 10:55:12 PM
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SL  standards have fallen not due to political uncertainty but due to all top players retiring in almost similar time like Dilshan, Sangakara, Jayawardhane and thus the SL team could not replace that quality with any of the other players. they dd not had backup who could have replaced them.
It is very difficult to replace players like Kumar Sangakkara, Dilshan or Mahela Jayawardene or even Muttiah Muralitharan but they failed to find any consistent players during their time and groom them during their final years of cricket, India too had legendary players who retired from cricket but they replaced with players like Virat Kohli and Rohit Sharma and groomed them to what they have become now and Srilanka failed to do that and so is the reason you find them struggling. Every country goes through that phase and if you are not grooming the young talents properly then you will struggle to find players of exceptional caliber.
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July 30, 2019, 06:37:16 AM
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I couldn't fully agree with you. Bangladesh has 5 players who played even World cup 2007. Shakib, Mash, Mahmudullah are playing in the Bangladesh team for 10+ years. The same goes for Mushi and Tamim. They are all senior players who performing well for the last few years. I don't think they are inexperienced but the way they are showing performance in the last few matches looks they are new to the cricket world. I am very disappointed to see the results of the last few matches. Hopefully, soon they will come back strongly.
True, the five person you mentioned had played the 2007 world cup, but Tamim and Mash, both are out of form. Mash bowling is not a good one, Tamim is in off form for a long time.
On Srilanka series, Shakib isn't playing as well.
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July 30, 2019, 05:56:09 PM
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Prithiv Shaw one of the upcoming younger batsman has being banned till November 15 for a doping violation. He anyways was not picked for the WI tour and is going to miss the SA series and the Bangladesh series as well which will in the their country itself.

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July 30, 2019, 08:26:00 PM
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The last match of the ODI series between Bangladesh & Sri Lanka will take place today. Bangladesh has the last chance for a happy ending. Sri Lanka showed tremendous performance in batting & bowling. Bangladesh has lost the momentum as their key player Shakib is resting. Tamim is not getting runs which are the Bangladesh team concerned about. I saw their fielding is also not so well as a big team like India, England. Sri Lanka would hope for a whitewash because they are the favourite at home.

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July 30, 2019, 10:31:35 PM
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Not sure if the disappointment of the World Cup for Bangladesh is the reason why they have been playing poorly against Sri Lanka or if its fatigue from playing so much cricket in just a couple of months. They have played poorly in both matches losing badly so lets hope that they can at least give Sri Lanka a challenge in the final ODI match.

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