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December 10, 2021, 06:26:43 PM
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Since we have a separate thread for test matches, one day and T20, then what is the purpose of this thread.
I can see this thread was created in 2015 and is the oldest cricket thread created 6 years ago but now it's time that we lock it. Any opinion on this?


This is one of the oldest Cricket thread in gambling section, the other three threads are created after this one. You can lock this one but that will shift discussion here to other three threads. This thread only be reserved for general cricket discussions and not about three formats of cricket for which we have separate threads.

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In white ball cricket they do have ridiculous team, they can even field 2 different teams in limited overs but they seems doomed as far as test cricket is concern. Poor Root is doing all heavy lifting for them.
Joe Root is once again doing the heavy lifting, i thought the match is done and dusted and now England is recovering but they to play the entire day to avoid the defeat and they trail by 58 runs and i wonder how long they can bat once Joe Root and Dawid Malan are gone. On papers they have Ben Stokes, Ollie Pope and Jos Buttler but it is going to be interesting tomorrow.
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Let this thread live, don't lock it. The other three threads are about T20, ODI and Test. While here we discuss incidents other then these three formats. Recent news about H Pandaya and Tim were shared here. of course we cant discuss them in other three threads. So I am of the opinion that just this thread live.

I agree with galambo. Usually I post here, when I need to debate on the ICC funding, associate member status, player issues.etc. These are not specific to any one format of cricket, and therefore I guess this one is the most suitable thread. Anyway, it is manageable. Look at this sub-forum. You can find dozens of threads each for football and boxing. So I don't think that there is anything wrong in having an additional thread for general discussion. Also, I guess this is the oldest thread related to cricket in this forum.

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I agree with galambo. Usually I post here, when I need to debate on the ICC funding, associate member status, player issues.etc. These are not specific to any one format of cricket, and therefore I guess this one is the most suitable thread. Anyway, it is manageable. Look at this sub-forum. You can find dozens of threads each for football and boxing. So I don't think that there is anything wrong in having an additional thread for general discussion. Also, I guess this is the oldest thread related to cricket in this forum.

Glad moderator hasn't locked this thread yet. There are more votes in favour of this thread vs against. There is thread for every football league but for all cricket leagues we have one thread here. All other thread are occupied with cricket matches discussion, let this be for general discussion.

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December 11, 2021, 06:05:45 AM
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Yes, I agree too sometimes we have to discuss all three formats of the cricket matches and it is the best place to put our point of view.

WestIndies team is visiting Pakistan to play three T20 and three one-day international matches in Pakistan. All six matches will be played in Karachi, starting from the 13th of December.



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Yes, I agree too sometimes we have to discuss all three formats of the cricket matches and it is the best place to put our point of view.

WestIndies team is visiting Pakistan to play three T20 and three one-day international matches in Pakistan. All six matches will be played in Karachi, starting from the 13th of December.


Its a good decision by pcb to play all matches in karachi as lahore is having problems of Smog. Good thing is teams are now coming to Pakistan, Aussies are also planning to visit Pakistan in march next year. If that tour gets underway then it  will be revival of cricket in Pakistan.

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Its a good decision by pcb to play all matches in karachi as lahore is having problems of Smog. Good thing is teams are now coming to Pakistan, Aussies are also planning to visit Pakistan in march next year. If that tour gets underway then it  will be revival of cricket in Pakistan.

LOL.. if this is the case, then Delhi should not be hosting any matches at all. The AQI there is much worse than what they have in Lahore. The stubble burning season is in full swing and the air in northern parts of India and Pakistan can be described as "hazardous" if not outright toxic. Ideally no foreign teams should be visiting this region until the air quality improves. PCB did the right thing by moving the matches to coastal city. I guess they have a cricket stadium in Gwadar as well, which is very scenic.


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LOL.. if this is the case, then Delhi should not be hosting any matches at all. The AQI there is much worse than what they have in Lahore. The stubble burning season is in full swing and the air in northern parts of India and Pakistan can be described as "hazardous" if not outright toxic. Ideally no foreign teams should be visiting this region until the air quality improves. PCB did the right thing by moving the matches to coastal city. I guess they have a cricket stadium in Gwadar as well, which is very scenic.


There is no comparison of PCB and BCCI. There are very few boards that are willing to play in Pakistan while there is hardly any board that can say no to BCCI. The reason is obvious, nobody wanna lose IPL contracts. For every player Foreign or local, money is supreme thing. Thats why whole world plays IPL in India in April this year despite peak of covid19. 

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I agree with galambo. Usually I post here, when I need to debate on the ICC funding, associate member status, player issues.etc. These are not specific to any one format of cricket, and therefore I guess this one is the most suitable thread. Anyway, it is manageable. Look at this sub-forum. You can find dozens of threads each for football and boxing. So I don't think that there is anything wrong in having an additional thread for general discussion. Also, I guess this is the oldest thread related to cricket in this forum.

Glad moderator hasn't locked this thread yet. There are more votes in favour of this thread vs against. There is thread for every football league but for all cricket leagues we have one thread here. All other thread are occupied with cricket matches discussion, let this be for general discussion.

I came up with the idea to lock this thread but seeing people wanted to keep this thread open is perfectly fine too provided we keep this thread as active as the other three format-specific threads. I noticed that after a few posts, no one discuss here and after weeks, someone again bumps this thread for a brief discussion and then it again goes into hibernation.
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LOL.. if this is the case, then Delhi should not be hosting any matches at all. The AQI there is much worse than what they have in Lahore. The stubble burning season is in full swing and the air in northern parts of India and Pakistan can be described as "hazardous" if not outright toxic. Ideally no foreign teams should be visiting this region until the air quality improves. PCB did the right thing by moving the matches to coastal city. I guess they have a cricket stadium in Gwadar as well, which is very scenic.


There is no comparison of PCB and BCCI. There are very few boards that are willing to play in Pakistan while there is hardly any board that can say no to BCCI. The reason is obvious, nobody wanna lose IPL contracts. For every player Foreign or local, money is supreme thing. Thats why whole world plays IPL in India in April this year despite peak of covid19. 

That is so very true that teams like NZ, AUS, ENG will keep on playing in India despite of smog, covid, or terrorism in India. The reason is that money is above all those things and humans do not care about their health but they care only about money making opportunities.

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There is no comparison of PCB and BCCI. There are very few boards that are willing to play in Pakistan while there is hardly any board that can say no to BCCI. The reason is obvious, nobody wanna lose IPL contracts. For every player Foreign or local, money is supreme thing. Thats why whole world plays IPL in India in April this year despite peak of covid19. 

I am not going to deny that. BCCI is literally dominating the cricket administration at this point, similar to a level where the US is dominating baseball/basketball with MBL/NBA. And I don't really think that the situation is going to change anytime soon, given the fact that it is the Indian diaspora which is dominating the cricket boards even in other countries like the United States and Canada. Increasing number of Indian origin players are getting included in teams like New Zealand and England as well.

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There is no comparison of PCB and BCCI. There are very few boards that are willing to play in Pakistan while there is hardly any board that can say no to BCCI. The reason is obvious, nobody wanna lose IPL contracts. For every player Foreign or local, money is supreme thing. Thats why whole world plays IPL in India in April this year despite peak of covid19.  

I am not going to deny that. BCCI is literally dominating the cricket administration at this point, similar to a level where the US is dominating baseball/basketball with MBL/NBA. And I don't really think that the situation is going to change anytime soon, given the fact that it is the Indian diaspora which is dominating the cricket boards even in other countries like the United States and Canada. Increasing number of Indian origin players are getting included in teams like New Zealand and England as well.

Since BCCI is leading the cricket administration, its become more of a responsibility for them to further spread cricket awareness in other countries.

Unfortunately, Cricket is one of those sports which is not played widely among many countries.
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That is so very true that teams like NZ, AUS, ENG will keep on playing in India despite of smog, covid, or terrorism in India. The reason is that money is above all those things and humans do not care about their health but they care only about money making opportunities.

India control will further tightened as bcci is planning to increase ipl operations by including few more team's. Cricket is a game that is played in very few countries, if cricket gets its central control in India rather then in hands of icc then as a game it won't progress. Not to forget ipl is ban for people that are not liked by bcci.

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Since BCCI is leading the cricket administration, its become more of a responsibility for them to further spread cricket awareness in other countries.

Unfortunately, Cricket is one of those sports which is not played widely among many countries.

Well.. it has been the other way around. During the Srinivasan/Pawar era, it was the BCCI which sabotaged all the globalization plans laid by the previous ICC president Jagmohan Dalmiya. If Dalmiya had his way, then cricket would have been an Olympic sports by 2012, or latest by 2016. The cartel sabotaged it, and now the earliest date possible is 2032. Meanwhile, other sports have gone ahead with their own globalization programs, and as a result minor sports like Rugby, Kabaddi and Baseball are now played in more countries when compared to cricket (numbers for cricket are inflated, as most of the teams are completely made up of foreigners).

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Yes its the fact that cricket is not played widely across the world. Frankly at the moment only 4-5 countries compete good against each other... You can count 5 more but only 10 countries playing this sports is a very less number. Yes there are other countries but they are no way near the level of top teams. Cricket must be promoted all around the world and board like bcci must with help of icc should do that.
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Well.. it has been the other way around. During the Srinivasan/Pawar era, it was the BCCI which sabotaged all the globalization plans laid by the previous ICC president Jagmohan Dalmiya. If Dalmiya had his way, then cricket would have been an Olympic sports by 2012, or latest by 2016. The cartel sabotaged it, and now the earliest date possible is 2032. Meanwhile, other sports have gone ahead with their own globalization programs, and as a result minor sports like Rugby, Kabaddi and Baseball are now played in more countries when compared to cricket (numbers for cricket are inflated, as most of the teams are completely made up of foreigners).

I think Olympic has some requirements for every game that it must be played in certain number of continents and countries. Cricket is no way near to be in Olympics and it will never be thanks to collective effort of BCCI and ICC. There are only 10 proper cricket teams right now and rest of countries have teams just for fun like we saw gulf team recently Oman.

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I think Olympic has some requirements for every game that it must be played in certain number of continents and countries. Cricket is no way near to be in Olympics and it will never be thanks to collective effort of BCCI and ICC. There are only 10 proper cricket teams right now and rest of countries have teams just for fun like we saw gulf team recently Oman.

From what I heard, the International Olympic Committee (IOC) was interested in including cricket as one of the disciplines. If number of countries is the sole concern, then sports such as Baseball and Softball will never be included. It was the ICC which rejected the proposal from the IOC. They put forward insane and unrealistic conditions for the inclusion and even then the IOC wanted to negotiate with them. At at this point, the ICC president (N Srinivasan) explicitly stated that they are not interested in Olympic inclusion.


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I think Olympic has some requirements for every game that it must be played in certain number of continents and countries. Cricket is no way near to be in Olympics and it will never be thanks to collective effort of BCCI and ICC. There are only 10 proper cricket teams right now and rest of countries have teams just for fun like we saw gulf team recently Oman.

From what I heard, the International Olympic Committee (IOC) was interested in including cricket as one of the disciplines. If number of countries is the sole concern, then sports such as Baseball and Softball will never be included. It was the ICC which rejected the proposal from the IOC. They put forward insane and unrealistic conditions for the inclusion and even then the IOC wanted to negotiate with them. At at this point, the ICC president (N Srinivasan) explicitly stated that they are not interested in Olympic inclusion.



@Sithara007 I don’t understand why every few days we discuss cricket and Olympics again and again, because there’s been no new development that we know about. Lastly I personally feel that this topic should be revived when there’s some actual news which says that it’ll be included, and till then let’s halt repeated discussions on this topic.
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I think Olympic has some requirements for every game that it must be played in certain number of continents and countries. Cricket is no way near to be in Olympics and it will never be thanks to collective effort of BCCI and ICC. There are only 10 proper cricket teams right now and rest of countries have teams just for fun like we saw gulf team recently Oman.

From what I heard, the International Olympic Committee (IOC) was interested in including cricket as one of the disciplines. If number of countries is the sole concern, then sports such as Baseball and Softball will never be included. It was the ICC which rejected the proposal from the IOC. They put forward insane and unrealistic conditions for the inclusion and even then the IOC wanted to negotiate with them. At at this point, the ICC president (N Srinivasan) explicitly stated that they are not interested in Olympic inclusion.



@Sithara007 I don’t understand why every few days we discuss cricket and Olympics again and again, because there’s been no new development that we know about. Lastly I personally feel that this topic should be revived when there’s some actual news which says that it’ll be included, and till then let’s halt repeated discussions on this topic.
Yes there is no authentic and official update that any thing has been done towards it and I dont see cricket getting included in olympics for atleast 10 years. ICC or BCCI or any other cricket board around the world is not looking interested towards this. It is far away before that much more countries need to playing cricket.

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@Sithara007 I don’t understand why every few days we discuss cricket and Olympics again and again, because there’s been no new development that we know about. Lastly I personally feel that this topic should be revived when there’s some actual news which says that it’ll be included, and till then let’s halt repeated discussions on this topic.

I do agree with you there is no point in discussing cricket and Olympics. Cricket is not going in Olympics for at-least next 10 to 15 years (case closed).

Meanwhile Virat Kohli at press conference on Wednesday said, I was informed about my removal as ODI captain just one-and-a-half hours before the selection of squad for South Africa. (source)

He also told that he himself resigned from T20 captaincy.
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