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[Theones]

Tim Paine is stepping away from cricket for the time being in order to focus on his mental health after resigning from the Australia Test captaincy following the 'sexting' scandal. The decision was made based on Paine's mental health or because of his embarrassment? Well, I guess this late realization doesn't help anybody.

Yes he is taking indefinite break from cricket after the scandal broke out. Ashes is very close but I don't think Tim absence will effect Australia performance. As they have very strong players in the lineup. Interesting fact is Cummin is first fast baller in 65 years to captain Australia.

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[og kush420]

Still I am not sure whether the allegation is 100% true. If that is the case, he should be given the strictest punishment possible. But the cautious attitude from him in smuggling the luxury watches surprised me. Krunal Pandya (his brother) was booked for the same offense three days before Hardik was caught and yet he had the courage to repeat the offense. BTW, Hardik was not retained by the Mumbai Indians for the next IPL. I guess he may be playing for the Ahmedabad franchise in 2022. 

https://www.dnaindia.com/cricket/report-ipl-2022-mega-auction-latest-updates-list-of-players-retained-by-csk-mi-dc-rcb-kkr-dhoni-kohli-pant-rohit-2921113

With such attitude he must be axed from Indian team as well as from ipl. He belongs to class of players who can't digest fame and money. I don't think he will be able to find a seat in Indian team after Kohli is no more a captain. Its still a big feast for Pandya to have seat in 2022 ipl.

[Sithara007]

Tim Paine is stepping away from cricket for the time being in order to focus on his mental health after resigning from the Australia Test captaincy following the 'sexting' scandal. The decision was made based on Paine's mental health or because of his embarrassment? Well, I guess this late realization doesn't help anybody.

He's 37 years. A break at this point means an end to his international career. But no sympathy for him. He should have been aware of the consequences. The allegation was filed by 47-year old Renee Ferguson. I am not sure whether this was some sort of a honey trap. But in either case, Paine should have been more careful. This is not expected from someone who is married with kids.

https://www.news.com.au/sport/cricket/tim-paine-woman-at-centre-of-sexting-scandal-files-sexual-harassment-suit-against-cricket-tasmania/news-story/da4e78950434205bdbe7ab0400747152

Mr Paine then sent an image of his penis with the caption, “True, so f***ed,” in reference to the messages becoming public.

Paine responded: “Will you want to taste my ***? F*** me, I’m seriously hard.”

Paine continued: “Can’t rest them when I’m this hard! Need to ease the tension … Finish me off with those lips then. (Wink emoji) #trust.”

[mm2543363580]

He's 37 years. A break at this point means an end to his international career. But no sympathy for him. He should have been aware of the consequences. The allegation was filed by 47-year old Renee Ferguson. I am not sure whether this was some sort of a honey trap. But in either case, Paine should have been more careful. This is not expected from someone who is married with kids.

Mr Paine then sent an image of his penis with the caption, “True, so f***ed,” in reference to the messages becoming public.

Paine responded: “Will you want to taste my ***? F*** me, I’m seriously hard.”

Paine continued: “Can’t rest them when I’m this hard! Need to ease the tension … Finish me off with those lips then. (Wink emoji) #trust.”

Of course these are honey trap. He is sending such text since he was getting positive reply from the opposite side. Many married lives are destroyed because of such traps, recently there is another case of H Pandya also in news. Messages which you have shared clearly showed that they both are fully involved but now only Tim has to face the music.

[galambo]

He's 37 years. A break at this point means an end to his international career. But no sympathy for him. He should have been aware of the consequences. The allegation was filed by 47-year old Renee Ferguson. I am not sure whether this was some sort of a honey trap. But in either case, Paine should have been more careful. This is not expected from someone who is married with kids.

https://www.news.com.au/sport/cricket/tim-paine-woman-at-centre-of-sexting-scandal-files-sexual-harassment-suit-against-cricket-tasmania/news-story/da4e78950434205bdbe7ab0400747152

I don't know what on earth made this married man lure towards a 47 years old woman. He just destroyed his cricket career with these non-sense messages. In this article its written then woman complained about this issue in 2017 before resigning from her job but nobody paid any attention to her complain. Now all of sudden this issue popped up and seems like she will get justice this time.

[eaLiTy]

I don't know what on earth made this married man lure towards a 47 years old woman. He just destroyed his cricket career with these non-sense messages. In this article its written then woman complained about this issue in 2017 before resigning from her job but nobody paid any attention to her complain. Now all of sudden this issue popped up and seems like she will get justice this time.

I am yet to read about the case and i am not sure whey there were no active action against him about her complaint in 2017, even during the Me Too movement this should have come to light and that did not happen and now the Woke movement is active and they are looking to cancel each and everyone and they might have digged the history and Australia is also riding that wave. Lets see how it goes and and by sending a nude pic his career will be over.

[TheGreatPython]

I don't know what on earth made this married man lure towards a 47 years old woman. He just destroyed his cricket career with these non-sense messages. In this article its written then woman complained about this issue in 2017 before resigning from her job but nobody paid any attention to her complain. Now all of sudden this issue popped up and seems like she will get justice this time.

Age cannot be a factor here and I am happy at least now that woman got some relief but not sure what kind of compensation will be the right one for someone who quit their job after harassment. In this imbalanced world, even late justice are somehow cure pain after lots of struggle and sacrifices. I guess this case might not have got this much importance if Paine was not a skipper and just a player. Anyhow, I guess there will be no point of discussing about destroying Paine's career as he was convicted and hence must face that for the crime.

[Sithara007]

I don't know what on earth made this married man lure towards a 47 years old woman. He just destroyed his cricket career with these non-sense messages. In this article its written then woman complained about this issue in 2017 before resigning from her job but nobody paid any attention to her complain. Now all of sudden this issue popped up and seems like she will get justice this time.

I don't know what made her complain. From the chats, it looks as if what happened between these two was 100% consensual. But that doesn't mean Tim Paine is innocent. He is a married man, and should have kept away from these antics. Now he can't complain that she honey trapped him. If he had remained loyal to his wife, then none of this would have ever happened. Anyway, at 37 years, his career is all but over. May be he should take a 1-2 years break and after that he may get some administrative position with the Tasmanian cricket board.

[mm2543363580]

I don't know what made her complain. From the chats, it looks as if what happened between these two was 100% consensual. But that doesn't mean Tim Paine is innocent. He is a married man, and should have kept away from these antics. Now he can't complain that she honey trapped him. If he had remained loyal to his wife, then none of this would have ever happened. Anyway, at 37 years, his career is all but over. May be he should take a 1-2 years break and after that he may get some administrative position with the Tasmanian cricket board.

Yup you can simply block a person if you don't like her/his texts very simple. But there are series of messages from Tim to that female which means she is replying to his message and has interest. Its Tim who has to face the consequences now. Even 1 to 2 years cricket is huge as he is included in team very late.

[og kush420]

I don't know what on earth made this married man lure towards a 47 years old woman. He just destroyed his cricket career with these non-sense messages. In this article its written then woman complained about this issue in 2017 before resigning from her job but nobody paid any attention to her complain. Now all of sudden this issue popped up and seems like she will get justice this time.

I don't know what made her complain. From the chats, it looks as if what happened between these two was 100% consensual. But that doesn't mean Tim Paine is innocent. He is a married man, and should have kept away from these antics. Now he can't complain that she honey trapped him. If he had remained loyal to his wife, then none of this would have ever happened. Anyway, at 37 years, his career is all but over. May be he should take a 1-2 years break and after that he may get some administrative position with the Tasmanian cricket board.

As far as Tim career as cricketer is concerned, we cant say its over as we saw Smith making his way back to team after ban due to ball temping. This case is different as its personal matter of Tim and he didnt violated any rule of ICC nor cricket. May be in few days we will see investigations of this case that can help in making final conclusion.

[CDC AP]

I don't know what on earth made this married man lure towards a 47 years old woman. He just destroyed his cricket career with these non-sense messages. In this article its written then woman complained about this issue in 2017 before resigning from her job but nobody paid any attention to her complain. Now all of sudden this issue popped up and seems like she will get justice this time.

I don't know what made her complain. From the chats, it looks as if what happened between these two was 100% consensual. But that doesn't mean Tim Paine is innocent. He is a married man, and should have kept away from these antics. Now he can't complain that she honey trapped him. If he had remained loyal to his wife, then none of this would have ever happened. Anyway, at 37 years, his career is all but over. May be he should take a 1-2 years break and after that he may get some administrative position with the Tasmanian cricket board.

As far as Tim career as cricketer is concerned, we cant say its over as we saw Smith making his way back to team after ban due to ball temping. This case is different as its personal matter of Tim and he didnt violated any rule of ICC nor cricket. May be in few days we will see investigations of this case that can help in making final conclusion.

I dont think it will br as easy to make a come back for tim paine as it was steve smith. The first main thing is the age factor steve smith was pretty young but tim paine is not and steve smith and david warner were thr best to batters of the australian team so there was non chance that they get ignored but for tim paine i find it very difficult to make a comeback in the side.

[Sithara007]

As far as Tim career as cricketer is concerned, we cant say its over as we saw Smith making his way back to team after ban due to ball temping. This case is different as its personal matter of Tim and he didnt violated any rule of ICC nor cricket. May be in few days we will see investigations of this case that can help in making final conclusion.

I still feel bad about what Smith underwent. He lost one year of his international career, when his form was at the peak (Warner as well). But what Smith did was something that a lot of people do. Instead of using saliva or sweat, he used sandpaper. The case with Tim Paine is entirely different. The ICC or Cricket Australia has nothing to do with this topic. It is his personal issue and he needs to deal with it. Having an affair outside marriage is not breaking any of the ICC rules, as far as I know.

[Theones]

I still feel bad about what Smith underwent. He lost one year of his international career, when his form was at the peak (Warner as well). But what Smith did was something that a lot of people do. Instead of using saliva or sweat, he used sandpaper. The case with Tim Paine is entirely different. The ICC or Cricket Australia has nothing to do with this topic. It is his personal issue and he needs to deal with it. Having an affair outside marriage is not breaking any of the ICC rules, as far as I know.

Tim resignation from captaincy is on moral grounds not on breaking any code of conduct. He wan settle this issue and of course his marriage life. Moving towards Australia cricket,  Cummins is going to lead Australia in Aashes. Mostly fast bowlers are not made captains but we have seen some brilliant fast bowlers captain like kapil dev, imran khan, wash. Hope he is one more in the list.

[Juggy777]

I still feel bad about what Smith underwent. He lost one year of his international career, when his form was at the peak (Warner as well). But what Smith did was something that a lot of people do. Instead of using saliva or sweat, he used sandpaper. The case with Tim Paine is entirely different. The ICC or Cricket Australia has nothing to do with this topic. It is his personal issue and he needs to deal with it. Having an affair outside marriage is not breaking any of the ICC rules, as far as I know.

Tim resignation from captaincy is on moral grounds not on breaking any code of conduct. He wan settle this issue and of course his marriage life. Moving towards Australia cricket,  Cummins is going to lead Australia in Aashes. Mostly fast bowlers are not made captains but we have seen some brilliant fast bowlers captain like kapil dev, imran khan, wash. Hope he is one more in the list.

@Theones besides moral grounds advertisers also would have forced his hands as they wouldn’t like to cover a event while this matter is being in the public, either way it’s good he decided to step down and allowed the focus to remain on cricket.

Furthermore Cumming will have to lead by example, and he’ll have to absorb the pressure of leading the team in ashes, and let’s hope that he doesn’t end up in some scandal like the last two Australia captain’s did.

[galambo]

@Theones besides moral grounds advertisers also would have forced his hands as they wouldn’t like to cover a event while this matter is being in the public, either way it’s good he decided to step down and allowed the focus to remain on cricket.

Furthermore Cumming will have to lead by example, and he’ll have to absorb the pressure of leading the team in ashes, and let’s hope that he doesn’t end up in some scandal like the last two Australia captain’s did.

Cummins first encounter as captain will be in Ashes that is starting in few days. In early 2000, Aus were much ahead of England in every aspect of team because of presence of players like Gilchrist, Lee, McGrath etc so whoever is captain wont have to worry about. Right now things are changed and England is very strong team, so Cummins skills as captain will be tested.

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@Theones besides moral grounds advertisers also would have forced his hands as they wouldn’t like to cover a event while this matter is being in the public, either way it’s good he decided to step down and allowed the focus to remain on cricket.

Furthermore Cumming will have to lead by example, and he’ll have to absorb the pressure of leading the team in ashes, and let’s hope that he doesn’t end up in some scandal like the last two Australia captain’s did.

Cummins first encounter as captain will be in Ashes that is starting in few days. In early 2000, Aus were much ahead of England in every aspect of team because of presence of players like Gilchrist, Lee, McGrath etc so whoever is captain wont have to worry about. Right now things are changed and England is very strong team, so Cummins skills as captain will be tested.

If you see ICC test rankings, Australia after playing 17 test matches is at no 3 while England after playing 35 matches is at no 4. England clearly has played more tests compared to Australia. In terms of performance both England and Australia are equally competitor. We expect to see exciting cricket in these test matches.

[galambo]

Meanwhile there is interesting news regarding 5th Ashes test match at Perth Australia.
"Perth has a 50-50 chance of hosting the fifth Ashes Test between Australia and England, Western Australia Cricket Association chief executive Christina Matthews said. The Ashes finale is scheduled for Jan. 14 at Perth Stadium but the fixture remains in doubt due to Western Australia (WA) state's strict COVID-19 policies. Source".
Its for the first time we are hearing such news. Its CA who can go like that, I dont think ICC will allow any small board to go ahead with test series with 50/50 chance.

[og kush420]

As far as Tim career as cricketer is concerned, we cant say its over as we saw Smith making his way back to team after ban due to ball temping. This case is different as its personal matter of Tim and he didnt violated any rule of ICC nor cricket. May be in few days we will see investigations of this case that can help in making final conclusion.

I still feel bad about what Smith underwent. He lost one year of his international career, when his form was at the peak (Warner as well). But what Smith did was something that a lot of people do. Instead of using saliva or sweat, he used sandpaper. The case with Tim Paine is entirely different. The ICC or Cricket Australia has nothing to do with this topic. It is his personal issue and he needs to deal with it. Having an affair outside marriage is not breaking any of the ICC rules, as far as I know.

Smith got the punishment for what he along with other players, thats very much justified. Tim was made captain after smith and got involved in another scandal also. Cummins need to be careful not involved himself in any type of scandal. Cummins is somewhat a new Test player, lets see what he do in Ashes.

[eaLiTy]

I still feel bad about what Smith underwent. He lost one year of his international career, when his form was at the peak (Warner as well). But what Smith did was something that a lot of people do. Instead of using saliva or sweat, he used sandpaper.

I am not sure if everyone playing International cricket in the last decade would think about anything like that when hundreds of camera is capturing every move you make and if Smith and Warner was foolish enough to be not aware of that and if anyone did that they will be embarrassed like them. The punishment was excessive but CA is moving away from the aggressive game play for a long time and may be that is the reason they got the harsh punishment.

The case with Tim Paine is entirely different. The ICC or Cricket Australia has nothing to do with this topic. It is his personal issue and he needs to deal with it. Having an affair outside marriage is not breaking any of the ICC rules, as far as I know.

Having an affair outside marriage is not breaking any rules and regulation, but sending nude picture to random girls is an offense  . Consider how harsh the punishment of Smith and Warner for scratching with sandpaper, sending nude picture is a worst offense .

[JSRAW]

^^ I think problem pops up when these cricket board follows the holier than thou approach. This incident was old and he was already facing some sort of trials back in 2017-18. CA was completely aware of that as it was internal investigation but they didn't care much as they were in mess too. Somehow it got leaked to the media and he was captain of Australian team, its considered a biggest job in Australia after the Prime Minister so CA wanted to save their skin in this controversy.