Cricket match prediction discussions

[Smack That Ace]

The problem is FIFA is not controlled by a certain number of teams.  FIFA is the one who decides what is going to happen in football. But in cricket, every decision that ICC takes is influenced by the big 4. But I think If ICC wants, they can change and they will be able to assert dominance over all the teams quite quickly. ICC needs to make substantial plans for cricket going forward. And also include cricket in the Olympics. Cricket is never going to have popularity like football but it can certainly improve.

I disagree, it's not going to have any revolution in cricket it's just a hype which is trying to create for this
because right now even BCCI is not sure about this WIPL when to do and how things will go as they are fearing lost of some good revenue through this which is surely big deal for them as currently they are enjoying good handsome amount from IPL, and they never want to lose this in this experiment which is not sure could be success or no.
With we all know how things are happening in subcontinent we can't compare these with Australia or England even right now Indian women's team is doing good job around the world, and they are at fourth in both formats but still plenty of things to do because right now few teams are improving quality and this could be vital in near future.

You will never be able to sell your own product if you don't believe in it yourself. BCCI really has to believe that the WIPL is going to be really effective otherwise it won't be likely to be successful. I don't see why it is not going to be a revolution in cricket. We do have women's T20 leagues in other countries but in this region, this is likely to be the first.

People watch Football during World Cups and Euro Tournaments and i think majority are forgetting that. The major crowd pulling matches in Football are club tournaments and FIFA has nothing to do with those which is played every year.

For Cricket to get included in the Olympics the respective boards has to support the decision of ICC and only a major collaborative decision can make changes and ICC cannot take decisions single handedly nor does any sports body FYI.

Well, in that case, the cricket boards are responsible. This is because there is no reason why they should not let the team perform in the Olympics or against smaller teams. In the same vein, big teams and boards like BCCI should stop thinking of themselves as premium. Instead, they should start thinking about how to make the game better in the long run.

As I mention already we need equality like FIFA but here no one agree about this because B-4 is surely want to enjoy big stake in revenue which is never been good even they are having control but if they agree in terms with others then surely they can develop positively and have few good things for promotion of this game cricket, but they are never listening about any positive idea even personal likes and dislikes have big impact like India not playing against Pakistan, but ICC can't do anything which is surely a problem and ICC can use their power, but they are not doing anything.

Like in other sports associations they can pursue them for playing at neutral places which can bring positive things but here they are enjoying this all and still have mind like divide and rule policy.

I know that in every fault, both the big four boards and ICC has equal hands. Most teams in the world are currently interested in playing cricket, but the ICC has never really reached out to them and invited them to play regularly and professionally. Otherwise, I don't think cricket is a sport that cannot be interesting to a certain amount of people all over the world.



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[eaLiTy]

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like India not playing against Pakistan, but ICC can't do anything which is surely a problem and ICC can use their power, but they are not doing anything.

Like in other sports associations they can pursue them for playing at neutral places which can bring positive things but here they are enjoying this all and still have mind like divide and rule policy.

You are not trying to understand the power ICC has in bilateral tournaments, since these topics keeps on arising, ICC cannot enforce any team to play bilateral series, respective boards have to take that decision, ICC will only officiate the match if a match takes place. If India or Pakistan or any other team refuses to play in a tournament ICC conducts then they can take any decision but as everyone knows, India and Pakistan will play ICC tournaments with any issue and in that situation ICC cannot do anything out of the box even if they want to see them play bilateral series.

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Well, in that case, the cricket boards are responsible. This is because there is no reason why they should not let the team perform in the Olympics or against smaller teams. In the same vein, big teams and boards like BCCI should stop thinking of themselves as premium. Instead, they should start thinking about how to make the game better in the long run.

BCCI showed its support for the ICC in including Cricket for the 2028 Olympics and from what i understand they will be pitching the proposal to the Olympic committee and hopefully we will see Cricket in the Los Angeles Olympics or in the next Brisbane Olympics in 2032.

[vennali]

BCCI showed its support for the ICC in including Cricket for the 2028 Olympics and from what i understand they will be pitching the proposal to the Olympic committee and hopefully we will see Cricket in the Los Angeles Olympics or in the next Brisbane Olympics in 2032.

Recently read an article that ICC is confident that Cricket will be included in the LA Olympics 2028. They stated that "One of our strategic priorities is to get into the LA Olympics. The decision is made by the IOC in consultation with the LOC of LA28. All we can do is put our best foot forward and hope that cricket is taken into LA" That was said by the ICC chairman. Hopefully it gets included. At the moment, ICC hasnt gotten any invitation to the LA Olympics though. I personally feel that cricket has a better chance to be included in the olympics in Australia. Which will be in 2032.

[Tony116]

In that regard cricket is also becoming similar to football. Now club (i.e franchise) competitions are generating more revenue when compared to international events. And when we talk about international cricket, it is just the ICC events. We no longer have triangular or quadrangular series that used to happen earlier. It is just the boring bilateral series, and then the ICC tournaments. The main difference is that in football players don't play for multiple clubs at the same time. But in cricket, we can see players representing up to 3-4 different franchises in the same year.

Soccer is now big industry in world and clubs are giving enough funds to players, so they can't need to play for more than one club and cricket franchise is in early stages with few things still need to settle which need time hopefully in coming years we will be able to have enough money for players that they don't need to play for more clubs.
But, as I am checking we all already talking about ICC and their system it's never been flexible for players and countries, so they need to do some better work for this all otherwise it's going to be in the worst shape which is not good for game and players. There are many suggestions for this all but ICC is not listening because they have mindset which is having no progressive approach.

ICC does not have any progressive approach as they are satisfied with what is happening in the cricket world. They do not attempt to increase either revenue or the number of teams that play regularly. This is how ICC is fundamentally different from FIFA. They value the opinion of every team regardless of whether the team is large or small. On the other hand, ICC really doesn't care about the smaller teams' opinions; they only care about keeping the bigger teams - the big four - happy and vice versa.

[YinShuiSiYuan]

ICC does not have any progressive approach as they are satisfied with what is happening in the cricket world. They do not attempt to increase either revenue or the number of teams that play regularly. This is how ICC is fundamentally different from FIFA. They value the opinion of every team regardless of whether the team is large or small. On the other hand, ICC really doesn't care about the smaller teams' opinions; they only care about keeping the bigger teams - the big four - happy and vice versa.

Ever since IPL is introduced, icc went completely in control of bcci while CA and ECB already have tight control over icc. If cricket need to grow then icc must also give weight to opinion of small boards and associate teams. It's best in interest of big 3 that cricket remains confined to these 10 countries only.

[BobK71]

In that regard cricket is also becoming similar to football. Now club (i.e franchise) competitions are generating more revenue when compared to international events. And when we talk about international cricket, it is just the ICC events. We no longer have triangular or quadrangular series that used to happen earlier. It is just the boring bilateral series, and then the ICC tournaments. The main difference is that in football players don't play for multiple clubs at the same time. But in cricket, we can see players representing up to 3-4 different franchises in the same year.

Soccer is now big industry in world and clubs are giving enough funds to players, so they can't need to play for more than one club and cricket franchise is in early stages with few things still need to settle which need time hopefully in coming years we will be able to have enough money for players that they don't need to play for more clubs.
But, as I am checking we all already talking about ICC and their system it's never been flexible for players and countries, so they need to do some better work for this all otherwise it's going to be in the worst shape which is not good for game and players. There are many suggestions for this all but ICC is not listening because they have mindset which is having no progressive approach.

ICC does not have any progressive approach as they are satisfied with what is happening in the cricket world. They do not attempt to increase either revenue or the number of teams that play regularly. This is how ICC is fundamentally different from FIFA. They value the opinion of every team regardless of whether the team is large or small. On the other hand, ICC really doesn't care about the smaller teams' opinions; they only care about keeping the bigger teams - the big four - happy and vice versa.

Cricket is limited with in few of countries. The conditions of this cricket could have changed if ICC had not been biased. Now a days ICC regarded as one of the weak organization in the world to be compared to FIFA in any way. It is not unknown to anyone that ICC does not work without the guidance of the three countries. So in order for this organization to survive, it must show a generous attitude towards every country. Small and big should be given equal importance.

[sovie]

Soccer is now big industry in world and clubs are giving enough funds to players, so they can't need to play for more than one club and cricket franchise is in early stages with few things still need to settle which need time hopefully in coming years we will be able to have enough money for players that they don't need to play for more clubs.

But, as I am checking we all already talking about ICC and their system it's never been flexible for players and countries, so they need to do some better work for this all otherwise it's going to be in the worst shape which is not good for game and players. There are many suggestions for this all but ICC is not listening because they have mindset which is having no progressive approach.

I am not sure - why ICC has always been so controversial. They have not been able to win the trust of the players and the fans.
The point you have mentioned that they do not listen because they don't have a progressive approach is also somewhat correct. Let's see maybe in coming days ICC comes up with some good decisions.

[Tony116]

ICC does not have any progressive approach as they are satisfied with what is happening in the cricket world. They do not attempt to increase either revenue or the number of teams that play regularly. This is how ICC is fundamentally different from FIFA. They value the opinion of every team regardless of whether the team is large or small. On the other hand, ICC really doesn't care about the smaller teams' opinions; they only care about keeping the bigger teams - the big four - happy and vice versa.

Cricket is limited with in few of countries. The conditions of this cricket could have changed if ICC had not been biased. Now a days ICC regarded as one of the weak organization in the world to be compared to FIFA in any way. It is not unknown to anyone that ICC does not work without the guidance of the three countries. So in order for this organization to survive, it must show a generous attitude towards every country. Small and big should be given equal importance.

But we all know that the ICC is very scared to do its own shit. They really don’t want to get in the way of whatever the big four are doing. If ICC actually does end up doing something that will offend the big four, I think the countries will come up with an idea of replacing the personnel who does that. And the smaller countries are also going to support the big four because they will be promised a few tours here and there. So, unless it is their decision taken by all of the ICC personnel collectively it is not going to work.

[tbterryboy]

ICC does not have any progressive approach as they are satisfied with what is happening in the cricket world. They do not attempt to increase either revenue or the number of teams that play regularly. This is how ICC is fundamentally different from FIFA. They value the opinion of every team regardless of whether the team is large or small. On the other hand, ICC really doesn't care about the smaller teams' opinions; they only care about keeping the bigger teams - the big four - happy and vice versa.

Ever since IPL is introduced, icc went completely in control of bcci while CA and ECB already have tight control over icc. If cricket need to grow then icc must also give weight to opinion of small boards and associate teams. It's best in interest of big 3 that cricket remains confined to these 10 countries only.

One thing is sure with current system and approach by B-3 ICC can't be beneficial for this game, and we can't expect any positive change in coming years because this mindset is just having deep pockets and this is filled by IPL, so they are feeling happy and staying with same tactics which are not fruitful for game and fans.

Few decades back ICC were controlled by Australia and England, and they were doing things which give them favor, so we lost few good teams and now these two added a Gold Chick which is filling their money desire, and they have strong hold so most chances we will never been able to have very significant changes in game and system.

[Sithara007]

One thing is sure with current system and approach by B-3 ICC can't be beneficial for this game, and we can't expect any positive change in coming years because this mindset is just having deep pockets and this is filled by IPL, so they are feeling happy and staying with same tactics which are not fruitful for game and fans.

Few decades back ICC were controlled by Australia and England, and they were doing things which give them favor, so we lost few good teams and now these two added a Gold Chick which is filling their money desire, and they have strong hold so most chances we will never been able to have very significant changes in game and system.

I mentioned this before. There is a major difference between ICC and FIFA. ICC is a business minded organization, headed by businessmen. All they care about is revenue generation and profits. They have no interest in spreading the game. On the other hand, FIFA is headed by ex-international players and they are not as greedy as the ICC. They spend most of their revenue in popularizing the game (despite the fact that football is already the most popular sport in the world). Anyway, that is the way things work in cricket. We can't do anything about it.

[DanWalker]

One thing is sure with current system and approach by B-3 ICC can't be beneficial for this game, and we can't expect any positive change in coming years because this mindset is just having deep pockets and this is filled by IPL, so they are feeling happy and staying with same tactics which are not fruitful for game and fans.
Few decades back ICC were controlled by Australia and England, and they were doing things which give them favor, so we lost few good teams and now these two added a Gold Chick which is filling their money desire, and they have strong hold so most chances we will never been able to have very significant changes in game and system.

I mentioned this before. There is a major difference between ICC and FIFA. ICC is a business minded organization, headed by businessmen. All they care about is revenue generation and profits. They have no interest in spreading the game. On the other hand, FIFA is headed by ex-international players and they are not as greedy as the ICC. They spend most of their revenue in popularizing the game (despite the fact that football is already the most popular sport in the world). Anyway, that is the way things work in cricket. We can't do anything about it.

I think we need to find ways to make cricket popular and obviously, that is not possible if the ICC itself does not want that in the first place. Obviously, ICC is not controlled by ex-cricketers and most of the leading personnel of ICC are businessmen. So, it is obvious that they will be looking for revenue rather than thinking about popularizing the game. And I know we cannot do anything. We just have to accept it but cricket is not going to survive for a long period of time if this keeps on happening.

[Sithara007]

I think we need to find ways to make cricket popular and obviously, that is not possible if the ICC itself does not want that in the first place. Obviously, ICC is not controlled by ex-cricketers and most of the leading personnel of ICC are businessmen. So, it is obvious that they will be looking for revenue rather than thinking about popularizing the game. And I know we cannot do anything. We just have to accept it but cricket is not going to survive for a long period of time if this keeps on happening.

I don't think that cricket will die out all of a sudden. It will remain very popular in the sub-continent for a variety of reasons. First of all, the sub-continent population is physically not suitable for sports such as football and basketball. And then, they prefer a sport where physical activity is minimal. Cricket is ideal in this situation. But the risk is with other regions. Cricket is going down in popularity almost everywhere else. In South Africa and West Indies, it is no longer one of the popular sports. The same can happen in Aus-NZ and England as well.

[savetheFORUM]

There is a major difference between ICC and FIFA. ICC is a business minded organization, headed by businessmen. All they care about is revenue generation and profits. They have no interest in spreading the game. On the other hand, FIFA is headed by ex-international players and they are not as greedy as the ICC. They spend most of their revenue in popularizing the game (despite the fact that football is already the most popular sport in the world). Anyway, that is the way things work in cricket. We can't do anything about it.

Again we have simple point we can't do anything just able to give our views and have some time for talk with each other but still all end at the relative boards as recently we have few good changes with Ganguly is BCCI president and Ramiz Raja is PCB so if other boards also do things like this then surely we can bring few changes in this system because still it's not easy to bring wholesale changes very quickly with this system is in progress for many decades and no one have power to challenge this all.

First two colonial mind boards were head and now with third money making machine is joined them so all is dead and not good enough for this game of cricket.

[bryant.coleman]

It is not just the ICC that is incompetent. A lot of the member associations are also like that. Check the case of USACA (USA Cricket). Recently they approved a payment of $300,000 to the ex-CEO (Iain Higgins), although their payment of match fees to the players is still pending. The ICC has shown a high level of tolerance towards some of the most corrupt associations, such as the US, Canada, Sri Lanka, Zimbabwe and Bangladesh cricket boards. There is simply zero accountability with the ICC and with the member boards.

[Juggy777]

I think we need to find ways to make cricket popular and obviously, that is not possible if the ICC itself does not want that in the first place. Obviously, ICC is not controlled by ex-cricketers and most of the leading personnel of ICC are businessmen. So, it is obvious that they will be looking for revenue rather than thinking about popularizing the game. And I know we cannot do anything. We just have to accept it but cricket is not going to survive for a long period of time if this keeps on happening.

I don't think that cricket will die out all of a sudden. It will remain very popular in the sub-continent for a variety of reasons. First of all, the sub-continent population is physically not suitable for sports such as football and basketball. And then, they prefer a sport where physical activity is minimal. Cricket is ideal in this situation. But the risk is with other regions. Cricket is going down in popularity almost everywhere else. In South Africa and West Indies, it is no longer one of the popular sports. The same can happen in Aus-NZ and England as well.

I don’t understand how do you make a sport like cricket more popular than it already is, and the proof is in the insane bids for IPL advertising rights. Furthermore not all countries like cricket and that’s fine in my personal opinion, and lastly it’s no wonder that ICC is more focused on the big 3 matches as they know their citizens love cricket and it also helps them earn substantial revenues.

[Sithara007]

I don’t understand how do you make a sport like cricket more popular than it already is, and the proof is in the insane bids for IPL advertising rights. Furthermore not all countries like cricket and that’s fine in my personal opinion, and lastly it’s no wonder that ICC is more focused on the big 3 matches as they know their citizens love cricket and it also helps them earn substantial revenues.

Cricket is far behind other sports such as football, basketball and rugby in terms of popularity. Just because it is popular in India and Pakistan doesn't mean that cricket can be regarded as one of the most popular sports in the world. For example, FIFA is consisted of 211 national associations. While in cricket we have less than 20 national teams made up of native players. Cricket world cup has a participation of 10 teams. The corresponding figure for football is 48 (from 2026), 32 for basketball, 16 for field hockey, 20 for rugby and 12 for Kabaddi. 

[S A KHAIR]

There is a major difference between ICC and FIFA. ICC is a business minded organization, headed by businessmen. All they care about is revenue generation and profits. They have no interest in spreading the game. On the other hand, FIFA is headed by ex-international players and they are not as greedy as the ICC. They spend most of their revenue in popularizing the game (despite the fact that football is already the most popular sport in the world). Anyway, that is the way things work in cricket. We can't do anything about it.

Again we have simple point we can't do anything just able to give our views and have some time for talk with each other but still all end at the relative boards as recently we have few good changes with Ganguly is BCCI president and Ramiz Raja is PCB so if other boards also do things like this then surely we can bring few changes in this system because still it's not easy to bring wholesale changes very quickly with this system is in progress for many decades and no one have power to challenge this all.
First two colonial mind boards were head and now with third money making machine is joined them so all is dead and not good enough for this game of cricket.

I believe that ICC is the only hope for all of us cricket fans. Only if ICC takes matters into its own hands and does everything which is needed for the improvement of cricket, we will be able to see cricket getting popular and a lot of countries all around the world be interested in cricket. I have lost all hopes that any cricket board is planning to do anything to help the smaller teams.

[jaberwock]

I don’t understand how do you make a sport like cricket more popular than it already is, and the proof is in the insane bids for IPL advertising rights. Furthermore not all countries like cricket and that’s fine in my personal opinion, and lastly it’s no wonder that ICC is more focused on the big 3 matches as they know their citizens love cricket and it also helps them earn substantial revenues.

Here no one can do any serious implementation on this game because we all know this is already popular game and having big fan base around the world.

With most chances this will increase in subcontinent and most chances in few other countries but now still need some good things which need to happened for improvement in quality and marketing purpose because they are not working on these things, and we are going to face problems in near future recently we have invitation from commonwealth, but now ICC is only sending women's team which is not helpful even they can talk with other boards, and they were able to send their U-23 teams or A team which was also good for the game and this can open doors for this game, and we can bring some more fans.

[Sithara007]

Here no one can do any serious implementation on this game because we all know this is already popular game and having big fan base around the world.

With most chances this will increase in subcontinent and most chances in few other countries but now still need some good things which need to happened for improvement in quality and marketing purpose because they are not working on these things, and we are going to face problems in near future recently we have invitation from commonwealth, but now ICC is only sending women's team which is not helpful even they can talk with other boards, and they were able to send their U-23 teams or A team which was also good for the game and this can open doors for this game, and we can bring some more fans.

The ICC doesn't want cricket to feature in events such as Olympics or Commonwealth Games. They claimed that they are working for inclusion in 2028 Olympics, but the IOC rubbished their claim and clarified that the ICC hasn't made any application for inclusion of cricket in 2028. The ICC guys are just fooling the innocent fans. They only care about money and it doesn't matter for them even if cricket remains confined to 4-5 countries in the South Asian region. There was some hope, when Shashank Manohar was there as the chairman. But he is gone now.

[wiss19]

The ICC doesn't want cricket to feature in events such as Olympics or Commonwealth Games. They claimed that they are working for inclusion in 2028 Olympics, but the IOC rubbished their claim and clarified that the ICC hasn't made any application for inclusion of cricket in 2028. The ICC guys are just fooling the innocent fans. They only care about money and it doesn't matter for them even if cricket remains confined to 4-5 countries in the South Asian region. There was some hope, when Shashank Manohar was there as the chairman. But he is gone now.

Now as we check overall condition of cricket then surely we have the biggest disappointment because in North and South America we have only one team West Indies, and soon it's going down and out with their current performance, and we will have only CPL which will give them some money.

After this Africa it's also having only South Africa and two others are never been quality teams already down and out with South Africa is also changing their priorities and want Franchise cricket in strong position with this all now Europe where only England is having some better system and others teams depended on them just because of this they have advantage.

Australia we have both teams and system in better shape with now in South Asia we have two teams good in quality and three teams struggling which is not good sign mean overall its prospective is not good, and it's not going to be global game in next 10 to 15 years just very few countries will enjoy, and we mostly watch Franchise cricket from IPL, PSL and Gulf as they are also working to kill this

all.