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February 07, 2022, 03:08:56 PM
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Australia , india and England are the 3 big giants in cricket and their boards are strong. And these teams have been consistently performing well since past few years. The only other team apart from them is newzealand who is performing very well across all the formats.
Pakistan is a bit inconsistent team. Yes they have performed well recently and I hope it continues.
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Ireland is subsidiary of UK, so I don't think they are short in funds. Afghanistan is surely in dire need of funds. India generate major funds for icc but icc must take care of small boards also. If countries continue to exit from cricket world then on whom big 3 will rule ?

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The Irish cricket team represents United Ireland (i.e the Republic of Ireland plus Northern Ireland). RoI is an independent nation, while Northern Ireland is one of the constituents of the United Kingdom. Most of the famous players in Ireland, such as Eoin Morgan, Ed Joyce and Kevin O'Brien have RoI citizenship and they don't have British passports. And also, just because a country is rich, that doesn't mean that the cricket board will be in the same condition. The player salaries are much lower when compared to other boards like Pakistan and Sri Lanka.

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February 08, 2022, 04:01:48 AM
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Australia , india and England are the 3 big giants in cricket and their boards are strong. And these teams have been consistently performing well since past few years. The only other team apart from them is newzealand who is performing very well across all the formats.
Pakistan is a bit inconsistent team. Yes they have performed well recently and I hope it continues.

Pakistan and India test series can cross Ashes easily in terms of popularity. But its there rivalry that is depriving cricket community from exciting cricket seriss. Cricket is dying in countries like WI, Zimbabwe, South Africa and that must be a big concern for icc but they are busy in scheduling IPL.

@CDC AP Pakistan definitely have revived themselves, but the big question is can they constantly perform well to keep ranking higher up in the ICC rankings table?. Also @mm2543363580 a series between India and Pakistan won’t happen anytime soon, but if it were to happen it’ll definitely earn more money than the Ashes, and I’m confident that it might even beat the popularity levels of IPL.
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February 08, 2022, 04:45:17 PM
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Pakistan definitely have revived themselves, but the big question is can they constantly perform well to keep ranking higher up in the ICC rankings table?. Also @mm2543363580 a series between India and Pakistan won’t happen anytime soon, but if it were to happen it’ll definitely earn more money than the Ashes, and I’m confident that it might even beat the popularity levels of IPL.
I agree here with your all statement, surely now Pakistan is under recovery mode in near future we will have some good changes in Pakistan team and Board approach because after very long time there are professional peoples in all set up, and they are doing good work for better and secure future of cricket in Pakistan. This year PSL also have some good changes with good coverage and increased in fan base as well in next three or four years surely many better things happened in this all.

India vs Pakistan is surely no case for next 15 to 20 years because currently political situation is not good in this region which help for this case, and it's not going to change in near future, so this all is out of question even it's really the biggest then Ashes and IPL, but all world know why this is not possible so talking about this is completely waste of time.
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February 08, 2022, 05:36:06 PM
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Pakistan and India test series can cross Ashes easily in terms of popularity. But its there rivalry that is depriving cricket community from exciting cricket seriss.
Agreed. India-Pakistan series would surely be way more popular than the boring Ashes series in recent years, but it's understandable why their respective governments are stopping them from playing against each other.

but if it were to happen it’ll definitely earn more money than the Ashes, and I’m confident that it might even beat the popularity levels of IPL.
Beat IPL popularity levels? Dream on. IPL is currently in another league when compared to all other leagues across various formats and that won't change anytime soon.

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February 09, 2022, 02:18:21 AM
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Beat IPL popularity levels? Dream on. IPL is currently in another league when compared to all other leagues across various formats and that won't change anytime soon.

IPL is the richest league in the world and naturally it features the best players. None of the other leagues can afford to spend millions of USD on each of these players. Salaries in excess of $2 million per year are not unheard in the IPL. On the other hand, we have seen players pulling out from other leagues such as the BBL and CPL, because they feel that the salary is not up to a level where they would be compelled to play. And in the end money matters for the players. Everything else is of secondary concern.

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I agree here with your all statement, surely now Pakistan is under recovery mode in near future we will have some good changes in Pakistan team and Board approach because after very long time there are professional peoples in all set up, and they are doing good work for better and secure future of cricket in Pakistan. This year PSL also have some good changes with good coverage and increased in fan base as well in next three or four years surely many better things happened in this all.

India vs Pakistan is surely no case for next 15 to 20 years because currently political situation is not good in this region which help for this case, and it's not going to change in near future, so this all is out of question even it's really the biggest then Ashes and IPL, but all world know why this is not possible so talking about this is completely waste of time.

PCB is satisfied with PSL since players from counties like Aus, England and NZ are taking part. This is positive development for bringing international cricket in Pakistan. CA about to tour Pakistan after PSL.
You are right. There is no chance of India Pakistan bilateral series since there governments are not interested. Indians were not even in favour of playing T20 with Pakistan in last T20 WC.
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IPL is the richest league in the world and naturally it features the best players. None of the other leagues can afford to spend millions of USD on each of these players. Salaries in excess of $2 million per year are not unheard in the IPL. On the other hand, we have seen players pulling out from other leagues such as the BBL and CPL, because they feel that the salary is not up to a level where they would be compelled to play. And in the end money matters for the players. Everything else is of secondary concern.
No doubt IPL is richest, and they could be more in near future as they are doing their homework with the help of ICC, but if they do some better favour for few other small boards surely this could be good for these boards and players because recently we have few players pull out from CPL, BBL and BPL due to salary issues and if this case continue then surely we will watch few leagues will die before having any good peak for themselves so it is good time for give them support.

Because, this healthy competition is very important for them and all cricket community. Right now we have IPL, PSL and Vitality Blast these are doing much better, but now few are having issues which need to settle before we are late and these disappear from sight, and we lost some good cricket from many players.
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No doubt IPL is richest, and they could be more in near future as they are doing their homework with the help of ICC, but if they do some better favour for few other small boards surely this could be good for these boards and players because recently we have few players pull out from CPL, BBL and BPL due to salary issues and if this case continue then surely we will watch few leagues will die before having any good peak for themselves so it is good time for give them support.

Because, this healthy competition is very important for them and all cricket community. Right now we have IPL, PSL and Vitality Blast these are doing much better, but now few are having issues which need to settle before we are late and these disappear from sight, and we lost some good cricket from many players.

How good is PSL in terms of paying money to players? Can you share some stats of that. I though BBL is second big league after IPL but players are pulling out from BBL because of money issues. I think majority of boards except PCB are relying on IPL and are not focusing on there own leagues. If IPL is giving you huge money then why focus on own league?
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Because, this healthy competition is very important for them and all cricket community. Right now we have IPL, PSL and Vitality Blast these are doing much better, but now few are having issues which need to settle before we are late and these disappear from sight, and we lost some good cricket from many players.
I understand your perspective which is morally correct, but you need to understand the fact that reality is something else entirely. No board gives a crap about how their decisions will impact other boards since money is all that matters to them.

This logic applied to every single Cricket board out there(Not just BCCI) and it makes sense to be honest since it's the survival of the fittest overall.

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How good is PSL in terms of paying money to players? Can you share some stats of that. I though BBL is second big league after IPL but players are pulling out from BBL because of money issues. I think majority of boards except PCB are relying on IPL and are not focusing on there own leagues. If IPL is giving you huge money then why focus on own league?

From what I could see, the PSL salaries are around 8% to 10% of that in the IPL. For example, the highest paid players (Colin Munro, Chris Jordan and Asif Ali) are being paid $170,000 per year. And in IPL, the highest paid player as of now is KL Rahul with an annual contract of $2,280,000. You can't even compare IPL salaries with that from the other leagues. It's like a David vs Goliath battle. The highest paid player in BBL receives $258,900 per year and the same for CPL and BPL is $160,000 and $150,000 respectively. The Hundred is also having a similar salary structure.

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This news was came from https://www.psl-t20.com/press-release/51/

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The Pakistan Cricket Board in collaboration with Pepsi has launched an exciting initiative to search for new cricket commentators for the Pepsi presents Voice of Pakistan Cricket 2022 campaign during the ongoing HBL PSL 7.

The digital campaign starts today, cricket commentary enthusiasts who aspire to pursue a career in this exciting field can participate by submitting their entries through video recordings of their commentary.

It seems PCB wants to attract fans who are big enthusiasts to be a cricket commentator for Voice of Pakistan Cricket 2022. You can read for more on that website and I wonder, is anyone here interested in participating? Usually, people who have many experiences in a game will follow or participate in any events.



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How good is PSL in terms of paying money to players? Can you share some stats of that. I though BBL is second big league after IPL but players are pulling out from BBL because of money issues. I think majority of boards except PCB are relying on IPL and are not focusing on there own leagues. If IPL is giving you huge money then why focus on own league?

From what I could see, the PSL salaries are around 8% to 10% of that in the IPL. For example, the highest paid players (Colin Munro, Chris Jordan and Asif Ali) are being paid $170,000 per year. And in IPL, the highest paid player as of now is KL Rahul with an annual contract of $2,280,000. You can't even compare IPL salaries with that from the other leagues. It's like a David vs Goliath battle. The highest paid player in BBL receives $258,900 per year and the same for CPL and BPL is $160,000 and $150,000 respectively. The Hundred is also having a similar salary structure.
The salaries as well as the franchise costs differ much between the two leagues. For the upcoming IPL season two franchise has been sold last year. The two franchises Lucknow and Ahmedabad were bought for $1.69 billion, whereas the highest paid franchise of PSL league is $6.35 million for seven years of agreement which was done during the year 2018. Maybe after years the cost could increase much during the next auction for franchise.

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From what I could see, the PSL salaries are around 8% to 10% of that in the IPL. For example, the highest paid players (Colin Munro, Chris Jordan and Asif Ali) are being paid $170,000 per year. And in IPL, the highest paid player as of now is KL Rahul with an annual contract of $2,280,000. You can't even compare IPL salaries with that from the other leagues. It's like a David vs Goliath battle. The highest paid player in BBL receives $258,900 per year and the same for CPL and BPL is $160,000 and $150,000 respectively. The Hundred is also having a similar salary structure.

I was not looking for comparison of PSL and IPL since I already knew that IPL is way ahead of all leagues since they pay heavily to everyone involved in the league. What I inferred is that BBL is at no second followed by PSL and BPL. BBl is not even played by Aussies players, you can easily see the popularity of this league in Australia.
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How good is PSL in terms of paying money to players? Can you share some stats of that. I though BBL is second big league after IPL but players are pulling out from BBL because of money issues. I think majority of boards except PCB are relying on IPL and are not focusing on there own leagues. If IPL is giving you huge money then why focus on own league?
From what I could see, the PSL salaries are around 8% to 10% of that in the IPL. For example, the highest paid players (Colin Munro, Chris Jordan and Asif Ali) are being paid $170,000 per year. And in IPL, the highest paid player as of now is KL Rahul with an annual contract of $2,280,000. You can't even compare IPL salaries with that from the other leagues. It's like a David vs Goliath battle. The highest paid player in BBL receives $258,900 per year and the same for CPL and BPL is $160,000 and $150,000 respectively. The Hundred is also having a similar salary structure.
The salaries as well as the franchise costs differ much between the two leagues. For the upcoming IPL season two franchise has been sold last year. The two franchises Lucknow and Ahmedabad were bought for $1.69 billion, whereas the highest paid franchise of PSL league is $6.35 million for seven years of agreement which was done during the year 2018. Maybe after years the cost could increase much during the next auction for franchise.

yes, kinda low money for quality players...
Well, obviously the money is going to differ because more viewers, and you know more revenue mean more money and more salary for the players.
So, I will have a really big fan base and far bigger compared to PSL. The money is generated less so the players are getting paid less that's as easy as that.

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Because, this healthy competition is very important for them and all cricket community. Right now we have IPL, PSL and Vitality Blast these are doing much better, but now few are having issues which need to settle before we are late and these disappear from sight, and we lost some good cricket from many players.
I understand your perspective which is morally correct, but you need to understand the fact that reality is something else entirely. No board gives a crap about how their decisions will impact other boards since money is all that matters to them.

This logic applied to every single Cricket board out there(Not just BCCI) and it makes sense to be honest since it's the survival of the fittest overall.
Post made by savetheFORUM sounds like socialism type solution to me, help the marginalized.

But afraid picture is quite different like you mentioned, every respective league is based on private investment and motivated by revenues only. In competitive market if you're not fit or your product is incapable to adapt then you're destined to fail as it should be.

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The salaries as well as the franchise costs differ much between the two leagues. For the upcoming IPL season two franchise has been sold last year. The two franchises Lucknow and Ahmedabad were bought for $1.69 billion, whereas the highest paid franchise of PSL league is $6.35 million for seven years of agreement which was done during the year 2018. Maybe after years the cost could increase much during the next auction for franchise.

IPL money is way more then ICC income and there is no comparison of IPL with other leagues. Due to this supremacy BCCI is dictating its own rules like no Indian player will play in other leagues, Pakistani players will not be part of IPL and so on. If there were leagues at the level of IPL we will have a healthy competition not one man show.
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Because, this healthy competition is very important for them and all cricket community. Right now we have IPL, PSL and Vitality Blast these are doing much better, but now few are having issues which need to settle before we are late and these disappear from sight, and we lost some good cricket from many players.
I understand your perspective which is morally correct, but you need to understand the fact that reality is something else entirely. No board gives a crap about how their decisions will impact other boards since money is all that matters to them.
This logic applied to every single Cricket board out there(Not just BCCI) and it makes sense to be honest since it's the survival of the fittest overall.
Post made by savetheFORUM sounds like socialism type solution to me, help the marginalized.
But afraid picture is quite different like you mentioned, every respective league is based on private investment and motivated by revenues only. In competitive market if you're not fit or your product is incapable to adapt then you're destined to fail as it should be.

Money is always going to be a big factor for the cricket boards. But right now it seems like money is more important than cricket to the boards.  Undecided

I mean it's okay to chase money, but the obvious greed brings downfall. And the cricket boards all around the world are either reach or absolutely broke. BCCA does make money quite well but they also find young talent through IPL too.

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I was not looking for comparison of PSL and IPL since I already knew that IPL is way ahead of all leagues since they pay heavily to everyone involved in the league. What I inferred is that BBL is at no second followed by PSL and BPL. BBl is not even played by Aussies players, you can easily see the popularity of this league in Australia.

In terms of entertainment value, I rank BBL as the second best franchise T20 league, behind the IPL. But the issue with BBL is that many of the Australian players have pulled out of the league because of low salaries. The BBL salary cap is too low, when compared to the other leagues. On top of that they have a limit of just two overseas players, which somehow limits the viewership outside Australia. All that said, I can't deny the fact that BBL maintains exceptional quality and have made a lot of contribution to the women's game (through the WBBL).

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February 11, 2022, 03:56:10 AM
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Money is always going to be a big factor for the cricket boards. But right now it seems like money is more important than cricket to the boards.  Undecided

I mean it's okay to chase money, but the obvious greed brings downfall. And the cricket boards all around the world are either reach or absolutely broke. BCCA does make money quite well but they also find young talent through IPL too.

Money was not very much into cricket since 2010 I would say but we have quality teams. Its IPL that completely changed the dynamic of cricket by bringing in huge money. But we have to admit that quality of cricket is going down in most of teams as evident from performance of West Indies, South Africa and Zimbabwe. They were once considered to be strong or reasonably strong teams.
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