Cricket match prediction discussions

[tygeade]

Kenya was once integral part of icc tournaments but its no where to be seen and very soon Zim will also vanish from international scenes (I hope this wont be true). Icc must distribute funds based on need not on how mighty a board is. Afghanistan should get good funding against Aus or India as it has limited resources.

90% of the revenue is generated from India. This is the reason why BCCI hands are high on ICC. Maybe that's the reason why there is flaws with the distribution. As of now the teams now in need were Afghanistan, Zimbabwe and Ireland. This could change when the teams push themselves high in the big tournaments. Also, it can also be considered a way to keep those teams down.

Correct your statics because it's not 90% it's between 70% and recently just because of this all they have strong hold on ICC decisions and have some better favour for this player's attitude and window for IPL. ICC officials understand, so they are having soft policies because it's all culture of ICC, first we have Australia and England and now India is handling things with this advantage.

Many talks about this but these all are useless because no one want to bring fair policy which help this game and improve market, sadly even we are losing interest in many countries and few already on verge of giving up just because of having not better favour from ICC for their domestic set up.

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This is what I was saying there is no proof of fixing in IPL and yes we can helplessly speculate on that. Secondly,  ICC laws are strict when it comes to small boards like zim, pak, WI etc. I don't think there will be any positive development in cricket in days to come with current restricted role of ICC.

There are a few players that got a life time ban after the IPL scandal came out and if there is no proof of fixing those players could have approached the court for ruining their career and they would have got a huge compensation, instead what they did is try to prove their innocence and get out of the situation rather than going after them if they were falsely targeted.

[Sithara007]

90% of the revenue is generated from India. This is the reason why BCCI hands are high on ICC. Maybe that's the reason why there is flaws with the distribution. As of now the teams now in need were Afghanistan, Zimbabwe and Ireland. This could change when the teams push themselves high in the big tournaments. Also, it can also be considered a way to keep those teams down.

It is definitely not 90%, but more in the range of 50% to 60%. But that shouldn't matter. Take the example of other sports bodies such as FIFA. They don't distribute funds based on the proportion from where the revenues originated. In that case, the United States should claim for 50% of the ICC funds. India receives 4 times as much funds from the ICC when compared to other test playing nations and they should be happy with it. And the joke is that the BCCI doesn't even need these funds. They just received $2 billion by auctioning two franchises in the IPL.

[laurenB7742]

And certainly, such things can be detrimental for cricket because there are already very few countries playing cricket professionally.
If these type of favoritism goes into ICC I think it's not very long before cricket will lose its interest. A lot of people around the world loves cricket very dearly. But if the competition gets more narrowed day by day then it is obvious that cricket will surely lose a lot of those cricket enthusiasts.

If there are very few teams playing cricket, then the ICC is also responsible for that. They killed cricket in associate nations when Srinivasan-Pawar cabal was in power. Everyone knows what happened to teams such as Kenya and Canada. After showing a lot of promise, cricket died out all of a sudden in these countries due to lack of support from the ICC. And what happened in Zimbabwe also needs to be blamed on the ICC. They are still supporting the corrupt cricket board members, despite receiving proof that the funds are being stolen.

At this moment I am really cautious about the future of international cricket or maybe cricket as a game, because I just think that ICC has become too greedy and doesn't care about the betterment of cricket at the moment.

I think that they should stop thinking about money and start looking at the problems and solve them immediately because cricket is inevitably dying. And if ICC doesn't take the necessary steps, it will be really hard to get those Golden days of cricket back again.

[SirLancelot]

This is what I was saying there is no proof of fixing in IPL and yes we can helplessly speculate on that. Secondly,  ICC laws are strict when it comes to small boards like zim, pak, WI etc. I don't think there will be any positive development in cricket in days to come with current restricted role of ICC.

There are a few players that got a life time ban after the IPL scandal came out and if there is no proof of fixing those players could have approached the court for ruining their career and they would have got a huge compensation, instead what they did is try to prove their innocence and get out of the situation rather than going after them if they were falsely targeted.

Yes, there was an inquiry, few players got lifetime bans and Chennai owner was also banned for some time as well. In BCCI and ICC all know what's happening around IPL but Deep Pockets working, so they are watching and can't do anything. BCCI is managed by strong political leadership in India so just because of this media is also had not enough power to do anything against this corruption just sometime they shout few pics or news about few wired peoples when they sit with players in dressing rooms or having parties something like these things.

Right now we have too many concerns in ICC about media rights and finances just because of India because they were in strong hold and done some big blunders which is now creating issues and many countries suffering just because of this all.

[blatchcorn]

ICC can't do anything in any country for development because they have no sources or any better idea for this all from day 1 they never do anything it's all happening by mostly boards own sources and some addiction recently we have some good talk about Big 3 and other weak boards why because these Big 3 widening this gape instead of giving some better and fair system every one want to have more power and finances, so this is killing now we are on verge of losing few countries like West Indies and Zimbabwe due to poor system and lack of facilities so now all ICC and cricket is moving around IPL and Big 3 so just keep going and enjoy this all because they have big fan base and most entertaining league around the world.

There is flaw in small boards also why don't they join hands to fight for there rights. They all right now are behaving as slave of 3 masters. They have to realize that big 3 only exists because of small boards. As long as small boards are happy with current scenario, things will continue to move like that.  

[kro55]

Kenya was once integral part of icc tournaments but its no where to be seen and very soon Zim will also vanish from international scenes (I hope this wont be true). Icc must distribute funds based on need not on how mighty a board is. Afghanistan should get good funding against Aus or India as it has limited resources.

Kenya was really on very positive way and Zimbabwe was also having some extraordinary players those were capable to bring this game in very good shape with these teams and South Africa mean three big cricketing nations from continent of Africa can give very good fan base to cricket but sadly now it's all gone, and we have nothing good and positive in this region even now we are losing interest in Canada and West Indies as well and now have very few countries in Asia Australia and New Zealand with better fan base in Europe cricket is never been on good way and Soccer, Rugby and Tennis is having mostly youths attraction and ICC never done any good thing for Latin America continent.

Teams like Kenya and Zimbabwe were a force to reckon with. And now I don't even hear the name of Kenya & Zimbabwe doesn't have its own cricket board.

Things have changed rather quickly. These two countries and especially Zimbabwe produced a lot of great players in the past. But now it's all gone and those who are still playing at a good level are facing a lot of problems. Like Brendan Taylor who is banned now.

Unfortunately, ICC doesn't like to even think about these problems and is more interested in making money. I think that if this continues it's not long before cricket will lose most of its interest and also people will not be interested to play or see this game anymore.

[blatchcorn]

Teams like Kenya and Zimbabwe were a force to reckon with. And now I don't even hear the name of Kenya & Zimbabwe doesn't have its own cricket board.

Things have changed rather quickly. These two countries and especially Zimbabwe produced a lot of great players in the past. But now it's all gone and those who are still playing at a good level are facing a lot of problems. Like Brendan Taylor who is banned now.

Unfortunately, ICC doesn't like to even think about these problems and is more interested in making money. I think that if this continues it's not long before cricket will lose most of its interest and also people will not be interested to play or see this game anymore.

While everyone is crazing and excited for money rich leagues but nobody at the moment cares for the dark side of these leagues. ICC now adays is completely busy in scheduling international cricket in accordance with IPL, there is hardly any attention from ICC on disappearance of teams like Kenya and Zim.

[Sithara007]

Teams like Kenya and Zimbabwe were a force to reckon with. And now I don't even hear the name of Kenya & Zimbabwe doesn't have its own cricket board.

Things have changed rather quickly. These two countries and especially Zimbabwe produced a lot of great players in the past. But now it's all gone and those who are still playing at a good level are facing a lot of problems. Like Brendan Taylor who is banned now.

Unfortunately, ICC doesn't like to even think about these problems and is more interested in making money. I think that if this continues it's not long before cricket will lose most of its interest and also people will not be interested to play or see this game anymore.

1-2 decades ago, there were a number of great players emerging from the associate nations. And it's not just Kenya and Zimbabwe. Obviously, there were exceptional players from Kenya (Steve Tikolo, Thomas Odoyo, Maurice Odumbe.etc), and there were a few world class athletes from Zimbabwe (Andy Flower, Neil Johnson, Alistair Campbell.etc). Apart from them, there was John Davison of Canada, John Blain and Gavin Hamilton from Scotland, Bas Zuiderent from Netherlands and Freddie Klokker from Denmark. We no longer hear about such cricketers.

[Marvell1]

Kenya was once integral part of icc tournaments but its no where to be seen and very soon Zim will also vanish from international scenes (I hope this wont be true). Icc must distribute funds based on need not on how mighty a board is. Afghanistan should get good funding against Aus or India as it has limited resources.

90% of the revenue is generated from India. This is the reason why BCCI hands are high on ICC. Maybe that's the reason why there is flaws with the distribution. As of now the teams now in need were Afghanistan, Zimbabwe and Ireland. This could change when the teams push themselves high in the big tournaments. Also, it can also be considered a way to keep those teams down.

Correct your statics because it's not 90% it's between 70% and recently just because of this all they have strong hold on ICC decisions and have some better favour for this player's attitude and window for IPL. ICC officials understand, so they are having soft policies because it's all culture of ICC, first we have Australia and England and now India is handling things with this advantage.
Many talks about this but these all are useless because no one want to bring fair policy which help this game and improve market, sadly even we are losing interest in many countries and few already on verge of giving up just because of having not better favour from ICC for their domestic set up.

Honestly, these are the reasons that cricket viewership has dropped by a noticeable percentage around the whole world in my opinion.

Obviously, there is an issue with the coronavirus situation but in that part, we can't do anything. The fact that a lot of countries are just not that interested in cricket right now also says the big story.
A few years back we had a lot of nations playing really competitively in the world cricket but now it seems like cricket is losing its interest. Teams like Zimbabwe , Kenya were really good in the past but it seems like they are not really interested in cricket right now in my opinion, and these seem to be the countries where people don't want to be playing cricket professionally because it's just too unstable as a profession.

[doomloop]

While everyone is crazing and excited for money rich leagues but nobody at the moment cares for the dark side of these leagues. ICC now adays is completely busy in scheduling international cricket in accordance with IPL, there is hardly any attention from ICC on disappearance of teams like Kenya and Zim.

You have answer of this question in your statement it's all about money so ICC surely have no enough time to check things like this because these are not profitable for them now they have enough money from IPL and their puppet relative boards are also enjoying good benefits from this, so they are living good life.

With current standard and things going to happen around cricket world in near future we will lose few more cricket countries because these are losing attraction and have no enough support from anywhere for settling things in positive way, but ICC is also had no enough time to talk with them like FIFA they are supporting and having some good structure in many countries for better future of soccer sadly we have few blind mindset peoples those never do any good thing for this game.

[Sithara007]

A few years back we had a lot of nations playing really competitively in the world cricket but now it seems like cricket is losing its interest. Teams like Zimbabwe , Kenya were really good in the past but it seems like they are not really interested in cricket right now in my opinion, and these seem to be the countries where people don't want to be playing cricket professionally because it's just too unstable as a profession.

Cricket as a sport was pushed back by at least two decades when the Srinivasan - Sharad Pawar mafia was in power. They killed off cricket in associate nations and destroyed what was left by changing the eligibility criteria. Now we have a mockery of 80% of the associate nations being represented by playing XIs, that are 100% made of foreigners. Also, the mafia sabotaged the proposal to include cricket in Olympics. Cricket has been confined to just 4-5 countries, and I don't think that it will ever get an opportunity to became a global sport.

[galambo]

90% of the revenue is generated from India. This is the reason why BCCI hands are high on ICC. Maybe that's the reason why there is flaws with the distribution. As of now the teams now in need were Afghanistan, Zimbabwe and Ireland. This could change when the teams push themselves high in the big tournaments. Also, it can also be considered a way to keep those teams down.

Ireland is subsidiary of UK, so I don't think they are short in funds. Afghanistan is surely in dire need of funds. India generate major funds for icc but icc must take care of small boards also. If countries continue to exit from cricket world then on whom big 3 will rule ?

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Ireland is subsidiary of UK, so I don't think they are short in funds. Afghanistan is surely in dire need of funds. India generate major funds for icc but icc must take care of small boards also. If countries continue to exit from cricket world then on whom big 3 will rule ?

If you think that Ireland is subsidiary of the England and Wales Cricket Board what about Cricket Scotland and are the players all getting the same pay scale. Before getting into conclusion you need to understand that Cricket Ireland is a separate body as far as i understand from their official website. Due to political situation and corruption some of the cricket boards are finding it hard to find quality players because all the talents are looking elsewhere to find an opportunity rather than playing cricket. You raise the amount of money they earn playing cricket and you will find talents.

[galambo]

If you think that Ireland is subsidiary of the England and Wales Cricket Board what about Cricket Scotland and are the players all getting the same pay scale. Before getting into conclusion you need to understand that Cricket Ireland is a separate body as far as i understand from their official website. Due to political situation and corruption some of the cricket boards are finding it hard to find quality players because all the talents are looking elsewhere to find an opportunity rather than playing cricket. You raise the amount of money they earn playing cricket and you will find talents.

AFAIK, England,  Scotland and Ireland fall under UK. Of course England and Wales board don't wanna include Ireland in there pool since they wanna grab funds for Ireland in the name of cricket. My point is Ireland is developed country and there country can afford funds for cricket even without support of ICC while same is not true for Afghanistan, Zim and Kenya.

[jostorres]

Cricket as a sport was pushed back by at least two decades when the Srinivasan - Sharad Pawar mafia was in power. They killed off cricket in associate nations and destroyed what was left by changing the eligibility criteria. Now we have a mockery of 80% of the associate nations being represented by playing XIs, that are 100% made of foreigners. Also, the mafia sabotaged the proposal to include cricket in Olympics. Cricket has been confined to just 4-5 countries, and I don't think that it will ever get an opportunity to became a global sport.

If we see teams of uae and Oman they have 100% representative from Pakistan and India. So there is no point in discussing such teams that are made up of such expats. Cricket teams of WI, Zim and SA are not on levels they use to be. Let's see whether they up from here or keep going  down.

As you can check pointed out by @Sithara007 cricket is pushed back in last two decades, and now it's need some very long time and good effort from local boards and ICC peoples for revival which is very hard even near to impossible because now things are completely changed and peoples are looking for more profit in less time which is possible through these franchise league even with this all real beauty of cricked is killed, but this all is not stoppable.

Gulf countries interest in cricket is also not good as there is no good market for talent most subcontinent players are playing for them which is also another big concern but no one want to talk about this in ICC and few countries full of talent are losing their ground like Kenya, Zimbabwe, South Africa and West Indies which is huge set back.

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Gulf countries interest in cricket is also not good as there is no good market for talent most subcontinent players are playing for them which is also another big concern but no one want to talk about this in ICC and few countries full of talent are losing their ground like Kenya, Zimbabwe, South Africa and West Indies which is huge set back.

If the ICC is allowing teams to form players from other countries like in the Arab countries, it should be considered as an opportunity for the players from Asian countries where the population is really high and hence the competition to get selected in their national teams will be a huge hurdle and if teams are hiring mercenary players it will be a job opportunity and an option to play and make a living. Corruption is the main reason for countries like Kenya, Zimbabwe and South Africa lost their passion for the game and West Indies is not a country, it is a group of countries playing together under one umbrella as West Indies and selection policies and other reasons might be the situation in identifying talents.

[og kush420]

the ICC is allowing teams to form players from other countries like in the Arab countries, it should be considered as an opportunity for the players from Asian countries where the population is really high and hence the competition to get selected in their national teams will be a huge hurdle and if teams are hiring mercenary players it will be a job opportunity and an option to play and make a living. Corruption is the main reason for countries like Kenya, Zimbabwe and South Africa lost their passion for the game and West Indies is not a country, it is a group of countries playing together under one umbrella as West Indies and selection policies and other reasons might be the situation in identifying talents.

Gulf is known to be a land of employment. These countries hire people from all over the world to do there jobs, they themselves do rear work. Same has been done in cricket, they are hiring players from South Asia to make a team as native people are not interested in this game.

[Emitdama]

If the ICC is allowing teams to form players from other countries like in the Arab countries, it should be considered as an opportunity for the players from Asian countries where the population is really high and hence the competition to get selected in their national teams will be a huge hurdle and if teams are hiring mercenary players it will be a job opportunity and an option to play and make a living. Corruption is the main reason for countries like Kenya, Zimbabwe and South Africa lost their passion for the game and West Indies is not a country, it is a group of countries playing together under one umbrella as West Indies and selection policies and other reasons might be the situation in identifying talents.

If ICC wants to do something then surely they need to implement some law about these countries and allow few players because for increasing local talent and quality it's better but right now having all players from different countries is really not profitable in any way and lack of funds and better motivation right now hurting cricket very badly in African continent soccer and Rugby increasing their fan bas with better funding and marketing which can give more difficulties for these respective boards now South African board is also having political issues which are not good for their game of cricket.

West Indies as already mentioned is group of countries and have some good problems have no good hopes for revival in cricket with this all now we have just ANZ, England and Sub-Continent countries for this game.

[og kush420]

West Indies as already mentioned is group of countries and have some good problems have no good hopes for revival in cricket with this all now we have just ANZ, England and Sub-Continent countries for this game.

There are already very few teams in cricket if we eliminate teams like zim and WI then we only have teams you mentioned. With this progress cricket will not reach to more countries. Apart from icc its also in the interest of big 3 that big powers do not step in cricket to challenge there authorites.