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August 11, 2013, 04:30:38 AM
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that face denotes laughter because I really do believe between asicminer and resellers, more terrahash have been distributed than BFL. Of course, I can't prove it -- because they dont give us the hard numbers of shipped product.

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August 11, 2013, 04:36:55 AM
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I agree its a big scam  Grin
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August 11, 2013, 06:04:32 AM
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I've also had terrible experience with Butterfly Labs

Read my experience here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=271386.0

But they are shipping. "Where do you think the difficulty is coming from"  Cheesy Grin
BFL are mining with customer ASICs making money for themselves at the expense of their customers ROI. Isn't it obvious? Besides, there are other ASIC manufacturers as well.
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August 11, 2013, 06:12:34 AM
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I've also had terrible experience with Butterfly Labs

Read my experience here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=271386.0

But they are shipping. "Where do you think the difficulty is coming from"  Cheesy Grin
BFL are mining with customer ASICs making money for themselves at the expense of their customers ROI. Isn't it obvious? Besides, there are other ASIC manufacturers as well.
Yes, in that post I was being sarcastic.

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August 11, 2013, 07:58:36 PM
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Ummm.... correlation, please.

The reason that the hashrate is going up like it is and that difficulty is about to make its biggest jump ever is because of BFL units hitting the market.

I know that's what they're telling their forum members, but you've seen the pictures of hundreds of thousands of Avalon chips sitting in boxes, right? Millions of them have been made and it's unlikely they're all sitting in customs.

Additionally, Bitfury chips have also started shipping.

Some of the network growth is BFL.  But claiming that it's ALL BFL is completely wishful thinking on the part of BFL users.

Yea, BFL users must be living under a rock if they believe the diff increase is primarily due to BFL.  Sure they take part but give me a break.   Look around, there are other ASIC companies releasing chips and units at a much higher rate than the public BFL information.   Sure, BFL could be mining the crap out of the network but that is not due to the ones they have shipped.
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August 11, 2013, 10:41:57 PM
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Yea, BFL users must be living under a rock if they believe the diff increase is primarily due to BFL.  Sure they take part but give me a break.   Look around, there are other ASIC companies releasing chips and units at a much higher rate than the public BFL information.   Sure, BFL could be mining the crap out of the network but that is not due to the ones they have shipped.

Care to provide a link to anyone shipping, besides BFL?

If you're searching these lines for a point, you've probably missed it.  There was never anything there in the first place.
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August 11, 2013, 10:49:02 PM
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https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=271054.0;topicseen
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=270981.0

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August 11, 2013, 11:15:32 PM
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Yea, BFL users must be living under a rock if they believe the diff increase is primarily due to BFL.  Sure they take part but give me a break.   Look around, there are other ASIC companies releasing chips and units at a much higher rate than the public BFL information.   Sure, BFL could be mining the crap out of the network but that is not due to the ones they have shipped.

Care to provide a link to anyone shipping, besides BFL?

Care to provide some kinda proof and numbers that ALL the unknown has rate is BFL?

Oh that's right you don't provide solid numbers you just make comments that imply you have shipped all that hash rate.

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August 11, 2013, 11:26:19 PM
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I never said it was all from BFL, but the vast majority is and will continue to be for awhile yet.  You are deluding yourself if you think otherwise, heh.




If you're searching these lines for a point, you've probably missed it.  There was never anything there in the first place.
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August 11, 2013, 11:27:47 PM
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I never said it was all from BFL, but the vast majority is and will continue to be for awhile yet.  You are deluding yourself if you think otherwise, heh.



Well that certainly proved it, thanks...

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August 11, 2013, 11:40:57 PM
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There's no need to "prove it."  It doesn't matter what you believe.  Reality doesn't care about you, or haven't you figured that out yet?  When you are an adult, you'll realize the real world doesn't care about you and neither do I.

If you're searching these lines for a point, you've probably missed it.  There was never anything there in the first place.
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August 12, 2013, 12:15:32 AM
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There's no need to "prove it."  It doesn't matter what you believe.  Reality doesn't care about you, or haven't you figured that out yet?  When you are an adult, you'll realize the real world doesn't care about you and neither do I.


"I care so little about you, I'm gonna keep on coming back to argue without proving my original point"
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August 12, 2013, 12:37:38 AM
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There's no need to "prove it."  It doesn't matter what you believe.  Reality doesn't care about you, or haven't you figured that out yet?  When you are an adult, you'll realize the real world doesn't care about you and neither do I.


"I care so little about you, I'm gonna keep on coming back to argue without proving my original point"

LOL. if anything this should show to avoid BFL like the plague

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August 12, 2013, 01:16:41 AM
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There's no need to "prove it."  It doesn't matter what you believe.  Reality doesn't care about you, or haven't you figured that out yet?  When you are an adult, you'll realize the real world doesn't care about you and neither do I.



Well thought out and reasoned rebuttal champ!

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August 12, 2013, 04:49:26 AM
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I never said it was all from BFL, but the vast majority is and will continue to be for awhile yet.  You are deluding yourself if you think otherwise, heh.

Back to forums Josh? You coming to C3?

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August 12, 2013, 05:04:51 AM
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quote BFL forum

"Reposting Fet-Up's refund instructions. Might as well make a little more work for the deleters.

Perhaps a good idea is for everyone to make it their sig. You may not want a refund yourself, but any reasonable person should be in favor of them for those who do, and opposed to deleting posts that explain how.

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(This post will be removed when noticed by BFL, as they want to ensure that people don't know their legal rights: That alone makes them look pretty shady. I'm speaking from experience, as they modified my last post a week ago to simply say "Hello", and turned another posters comment about my post to "Post this in another forum") - Shady!"



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August 12, 2013, 05:18:02 AM
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The company's crap is almost overwhelming.
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August 12, 2013, 10:31:05 AM
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I used to have hard time trying to understand BFLs situation, but every post from Josh makes it a little bit easier. If a company is led by an incompetent asshole, it's no wonder they can't even produce shit.
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August 12, 2013, 12:35:05 PM
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Thank you for your support.
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August 12, 2013, 12:50:42 PM
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Lol, if you guys have ever seen the video intro to the butterflylabs warehouse and office you'll shelves and racks of the 500gh/s and the 50gh/s models. My point is that if they really want to made money they would link all they machinery(if they really exist and mine that fast) together to dominate the bitcoin network. Note: the above is just my opinion, if you disagree, then disagree......
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