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June 15, 2025, 11:24:32 PM
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I disagree with you and all clubs must win their domestic league titles if possible. It's unrealistic to think you can become UEFA Champions League champion without ability to win your domestic league trophy. You can win and not win a domestic title in one season in which you win Champions League title, but it is very different than unable to win domestic league for years.

Bayern Munich surely consider Bundesliga like a mandatory title that must be added into their club's hall of fame. It is a title of one of five biggest leagues in Europe and has considerable value than any friendly tournament cup.

I'm tired of reading one same football story over and over again. Bayern Munich is the only elite team in Germany? Common we have Bayer Leverkusen and Borrusia Dortmund, RB Leipzig and others. Why only Bayern Munich trending and formidable? I know the club's management have been effectively standby and ready to make crucial decisions to elevate the club.

Bayern Munich have a birthright in Germany and that's winning the Bundesliga title consecutively. Even when the Bavarians lost balance, they will still go ahead and win the Bundesliga title. Then I ask myself, is there any team that's not worried about Bayern Munich always lifting the for decades? These clubs are really relenting because winning is socially important and effective, a win must be record for these teams to become eligible in the eyes of football lovers.

 
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June 16, 2025, 02:25:15 AM
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I disagree with you and all clubs must win their domestic league titles if possible. It's unrealistic to think you can become UEFA Champions League champion without ability to win your domestic league trophy. You can win and not win a domestic title in one season in which you win Champions League title, but it is very different than unable to win domestic league for years.

Bayern Munich surely consider Bundesliga like a mandatory title that must be added into their club's hall of fame. It is a title of one of five biggest leagues in Europe and has considerable value than any friendly tournament cup.

You don't think differently from me, you just didn't read carefully. No one said that Bayern doesn't have to win the Bundesliga. We said Bayern already win the Bundesliga every year, it's not an achievement for them. Bayern should already win the Bundesliga every year, winning the local league is not their goal. That's not the reason they spend millions of Euros. Their main goal is to win the Champions League. The Bundesliga is a small goal compared to that, it's something that should happen anyway.

Bayern Munich wins the Bundesliga almost every season and they are at the top even if they don't have a goal. You are right that Bayern Munich's main goal is not to win their domestic league, but they spend a lot of money just to win the big leagues. Where we have seen this season they spent enough money and played strongly in the Champions League and were in a good position but at the last moment they had to lose. Basically Bayern Munich is trying hard to win the big leagues and the players in their team are working hard but they could not succeed. However, since the team is strong enough and they can spend a lot of money in the team, it is better to add more players to their team this season so that they can play strongly. Moreover, their main goal is of course to win the Champions League which they are trying every season but are failing to succeed.
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June 16, 2025, 01:02:27 PM
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You don't think differently from me, you just didn't read carefully. No one said that Bayern doesn't have to win the Bundesliga. We said Bayern already win the Bundesliga every year, it's not an achievement for them. Bayern should already win the Bundesliga every year, winning the local league is not their goal. That's not the reason they spend millions of Euros. Their main goal is to win the Champions League. The Bundesliga is a small goal compared to that, it's something that should happen anyway.
You are also a bit wrong because every club is also chasing the Bundesliga trophy so Bayern Munich who are already so dominant have it a little easier for them. But that doesn't mean that this is not the goal for Bayern Munich even though they have won it almost every season. The Champions League is the dream of most clubs who will try to do their best there, but it won't be easy because it's quite competitive here. Bayern still prioritize the Bundesliga even though they also have the ambition to win the Champions League title and I think both competitions are equally important.

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June 16, 2025, 01:10:09 PM
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You are also a bit wrong because every club is also chasing the Bundesliga trophy so Bayern Munich who are already so dominant have it a little easier for them. But that doesn't mean that this is not the goal for Bayern Munich even though they have won it almost every season. The Champions League is the dream of most clubs who will try to do their best there, but it won't be easy because it's quite competitive here. Bayern still prioritize the Bundesliga even though they also have the ambition to win the Champions League title and I think both competitions are equally important.

Except like PSG, who almost have no pressure from teams in Ligue 1, I think other teams in the Champions League will definitely focus on both competitions. Munich will not be completely free from the pressure of other teams in the Bundesliga. They can not really forget about other teams competing for the Bundesliga trophy. We do not know what will happen next season for other teams. I hope the Bundesliga can still be competitive with other strong teams that make it difficult for Munich.

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June 16, 2025, 01:16:29 PM
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You are also a bit wrong because every club is also chasing the Bundesliga trophy so Bayern Munich who are already so dominant have it a little easier for them. But that doesn't mean that this is not the goal for Bayern Munich even though they have won it almost every season. The Champions League is the dream of most clubs who will try to do their best there, but it won't be easy because it's quite competitive here. Bayern still prioritize the Bundesliga even though they also have the ambition to win the Champions League title and I think both competitions are equally important.

It is quite difficult for a big team like Bayern Munich to maintain their consistency when they have a tight schedule. And this season we see quite a lot of big teams in various leagues losing their consistency when formed with a tight schedule. and the challenge for big teams, they not only have to try to maintain their dominance in the domestic league, but they also have to achieve maximum results in European competitions.

This season Bayern Munich performed quite well, but it is very unfortunate that they got less than satisfactory results in the champions league. And at this time Bayern Munich is playing a pre-season match in the inter-club world cup competition, for their first match they played very well, where Munich managed to silence Auckland City FC with a landslide score of 10-0. A spectacular victory that makes them one of the strongest candidates to be able to win the 2025 FIFA inter-club world cup trophy.

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June 16, 2025, 04:28:09 PM
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This season Bayern Munich performed quite well, but it is very unfortunate that they got less than satisfactory results in the champions league. And at this time Bayern Munich is playing a pre-season match in the inter-club world cup competition, for their first match they played very well, where Munich managed to silence Auckland City FC with a landslide score of 10-0. A spectacular victory that makes them one of the strongest candidates to be able to win the 2025 FIFA inter-club world cup trophy.

Bayern Munich's performance was a little better than last season. The team was able to secure the Bundesliga title. At the same time, Leverkusen and Dortmund's performances were erratic, so it was easier for Bayern Munich to dominate the Bundesliga.

Despite winning the Bundesliga title, Bayern Munich could not do well in the Champions League. Munich lost in the quarter-finals against Inter Milan. Munich will definitely want to dominate the Champions League next season. However, I doubt whether this Munich squad will be able to dominate the Champions League.

Munich made a great start in the FIFA Club World Cup. Munich secured a victory against Auckland City by a margin of 10-0. Fans are very happy to see Munich's victory by such a huge margin. Even the Munich team is considered the top favorite for the FIFA Club World Cup title now.

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June 16, 2025, 04:43:53 PM
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I think it is really difficult to put an end to Bayern Munich's domination in the Bundesliga for a long time. Because they just don't find real competition for themselves very often...

Xabi Alonso came and did wonders in his first season. It was a record-breaking one too. But what happened later on? Bayern Munich continued from where they left.  Tongue  If you want to compete with them regularly like every season, you just need to build a squad as strong as theirs. This is the harsh truth for every league actually. There are other rich teams also in the Bundesliga of course. But they still can't even keep their best players at the team for long. They lose those players to more successful and rich teams for high fees.

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June 16, 2025, 04:46:11 PM
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I'm tired of reading one same football story over and over again. Bayern Munich is the only elite team in Germany? Common we have Bayer Leverkusen and Borrusia Dortmund, RB Leipzig and others. Why only Bayern Munich trending and formidable? I know the club's management have been effectively standby and ready to make crucial decisions to elevate the club.

Bayern Munich have a birthright in Germany and that's winning the Bundesliga title consecutively. Even when the Bavarians lost balance, they will still go ahead and win the Bundesliga title. Then I ask myself, is there any team that's not worried about Bayern Munich always lifting the for decades? These clubs are really relenting because winning is socially important and effective, a win must be record for these teams to become eligible in the eyes of football lovers.
Honestly, I've once think about this too but what make me understand the situation was that when it comes to financing a club Bayern Munich have the highest chances when it comes to German teams, if I'm not mistaken I think this will be the only reason why they keep on getting stronger each season. Borrusia Dortmund, RB Leipzig and Bayer Leverkusen  are also very strong team but what I said earlier is what they are lacking. Bayer Leverkusen makes a very strong u-turn by challenging Bayern Munich under the leadership of Xavi Alonso in his first and second season but now that he has left I don't see any manager that will challenge them again but let's see maybe their new coach will pick us by surprise.

For decade Bayern Munich has dominated Bundesliga title, but one thing I also observe is that the Germany national team is similar to the Bayern Munich team because they are having the same players that is why the team are getting stronger, they are the only team that can afford those players with huge wage among the German clubs.

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June 16, 2025, 05:12:03 PM
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I disagree with you and all clubs must win their domestic league titles if possible. It's unrealistic to think you can become UEFA Champions League champion without ability to win your domestic league trophy. You can win and not win a domestic title in one season in which you win Champions League title, but it is very different than unable to win domestic league for years.

Bayern Munich surely consider Bundesliga like a mandatory title that must be added into their club's hall of fame. It is a title of one of five biggest leagues in Europe and has considerable value than any friendly tournament cup.

You don't think differently from me, you just didn't read carefully. No one said that Bayern doesn't have to win the Bundesliga. We said Bayern already win the Bundesliga every year, it's not an achievement for them. Bayern should already win the Bundesliga every year, winning the local league is not their goal. That's not the reason they spend millions of Euros. Their main goal is to win the Champions League. The Bundesliga is a small goal compared to that, it's something that should happen anyway.
Yes, I agree. The target for Bayern Munich should be the Champions League. This year, Paris Saint-Germain achieved the championship they had been dreaming of for years. They had an easy season in France and easily won the French league. If they had not won, it would have been a problem because considering that they are much stronger than other teams in terms of squad quality and financial strength, they should have won the French league anyway. Their main target is to be the best in Europe and they have achieved that. We can say the same thing for Bayern Munich, they have also aimed to be the best in Europe as their main target.

 
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Football is not enjoyable when the main goal of the teams is to make money instead of being champions. Teams that are champions do not get enough support financially, the income obtained there is not equal to the income obtained by selling a few players. If you buy young star players and make sure they have a good season, you can earn tens of millions.

Agree. Dortmund and Leverkusen, two of the most renowned teams in the Bundesliga, are now targeting to raise money by selling players. Dortmund has been doing this for a long time. However, Leverkusen is a bit new here. Leverkusen management is going to earn a big amount of money this season by selling Wirtz. And probably Leverkusen management will do the same in the future. Clubs like Dortmund and Leverkusen do not have enough money. So they pay for the running costs of the club by selling players. And for these reasons, the Bundesliga is not very competitive. Next season we will probably see only Munich's dominance in the Bundesliga.

We wouldn't be surprised by this scenario, they have already managed to be champions of this league for 12 years. If Leverkusen hadn't been champions one year in between, we would have continued to watch an incredible championship series.
If teams are managed with the idea of only making money, we will be watching something that harms the league in the long run. The quality will drop and people won't enjoy the Bundesliga like they used to.
That's why the quality of the German league has started to drop, it will never be like the Premier League Smiley

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June 16, 2025, 06:34:46 PM
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I think it is really difficult to put an end to Bayern Munich's domination in the Bundesliga for a long time. Because they just don't find real competition for themselves very often...

Xabi Alonso came and did wonders in his first season. It was a record-breaking one too. But what happened later on? Bayern Munich continued from where they left.  Tongue  If you want to compete with them regularly like every season, you just need to build a squad as strong as theirs. This is the harsh truth for every league actually. There are other rich teams also in the Bundesliga of course. But they still can't even keep their best players at the team for long. They lose those players to more successful and rich teams for high fees.
It is true, Leverkusen is one of the lucky teams because they once broke Bayern Munchen dominance in the Bundesliga, with Xabi Alonso they wrote an unforgettable history, from Neverkusen to Neverlusen. Meanwhile, I guess the rich team you mean is none other than Dortmund, who like to sell their best players, as long as the price is expensive, they don't care even if they let them go to a rival team.

Next season, Bayern Munchen will most likely lead the trophy race again, and they are in first place in the list of favorite teams to win. Leverkusen and Dortmund may only be able to put pressure at the beginning of the season, other teams such as Leipzig, Stuttgart, Eintracht Frankfurt in my opinion cannot be relied on to stop Bayern Munchen progress. However, in the last two seasons I think the Bundesliga has become more interesting.
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Bayern Munich wins the Bundesliga almost every season and they are at the top even if they don't have a goal. You are right that Bayern Munich's main goal is not to win their domestic league, but they spend a lot of money just to win the big leagues. Where we have seen this season they spent enough money and played strongly in the Champions League and were in a good position but at the last moment they had to lose. Basically Bayern Munich is trying hard to win the big leagues and the players in their team are working hard but they could not succeed. However, since the team is strong enough and they can spend a lot of money in the team, it is better to add more players to their team this season so that they can play strongly. Moreover, their main goal is of course to win the Champions League which they are trying every season but are failing to succeed.
Of course Bayern Munich have goals, I think they are prepared to spend a lot of money every season, mainly to be the best among European clubs, that is they aim to further enhance their status by winning the UEFA Champions League. It has already been mentioned that they will add two players for the upcoming season, and that could increase further later. But in the current Club World Cup match they have managed to set a world record, I can emphatically say that what Bayern Munich did in this match was more than a spectacle because they managed to score ten goals in this match. Everyone is probably impressed by the performance of this German club because they now own one of the most unique records in this Club World Cup.

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June 16, 2025, 07:51:41 PM
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I disagree with you and all clubs must win their domestic league titles if possible. It's unrealistic to think you can become UEFA Champions League champion without ability to win your domestic league trophy. You can win and not win a domestic title in one season in which you win Champions League title, but it is very different than unable to win domestic league for years.

Bayern Munich surely consider Bundesliga like a mandatory title that must be added into their club's hall of fame. It is a title of one of five biggest leagues in Europe and has considerable value than any friendly tournament cup.
I totally agree with this that all clubs must win their domestic league titles.Because to become successful we can't ignore anything by saying that this is not of our standards or little. Because these mini titles have a great portion in your profile whether you are good in games or bad. Bayern Munich is a strong team and almost every year they win the Bundesliga. But if we said that they should not focus on this because they win this a lot of time i think this will be definitely wrong. Due to their consecutive success in the Bundesliga from the years, the mindset of football viewers that Bayern munich is that strong team who will definitely win the Bundesliga. But if we have an eye then we can leverkusen is also a very potential and dedicated player. Bayern Leverkusen can also give the tough competition to their Opponents.











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June 16, 2025, 09:42:37 PM
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It is true, Leverkusen is one of the lucky teams because they once broke Bayern Munchen dominance in the Bundesliga, with Xabi Alonso they wrote an unforgettable history, from Neverkusen to Neverlusen. Meanwhile, I guess the rich team you mean is none other than Dortmund, who like to sell their best players, as long as the price is expensive, they don't care even if they let them go to a rival team.

Next season, Bayern Munchen will most likely lead the trophy race again, and they are in first place in the list of favorite teams to win. Leverkusen and Dortmund may only be able to put pressure at the beginning of the season, other teams such as Leipzig, Stuttgart, Eintracht Frankfurt in my opinion cannot be relied on to stop Bayern Munchen progress. However, in the last two seasons I think the Bundesliga has become more interesting.
I want to see the power of dortmund in the bundesliga next season, they have not competed for the championship title for two seasons and that is a setback for them. Indeed, in the bundesliga the favorite team to be the champion is of course Bayern Munich but if they are not consistent then we will see another team that will be the champion.

Leverkusen seems to be having a hard time next season because they will find it difficult to repeat the success under Erik, Erik's performance in the premier league is not very good so his track record will certainly make him not confident in bringing Leverkusen to glory like what Xabi Alonso did.
But dortmund last season played quite well because they were in the middle of the season where their position was in the middle of the standings but in the second half season their performance improved and managed to close the season in the top 4.
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June 16, 2025, 10:01:28 PM
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I want to see the power of dortmund in the bundesliga next season, they have not competed for the championship title for two seasons and that is a setback for them. Indeed, in the bundesliga the favorite team to be the champion is of course Bayern Munich but if they are not consistent then we will see another team that will be the champion.

I have the feeling that Borussia Dortmund is coming back the next season, especially when I see how much they progressed at the end of it.
Besides, they are trying to consolidate their team, they added the brother of Jude Bellingham to their team, coming from Sunderland. Their winger will likely stay after Chelsea refused to pay more for him. Maybe more news will come in the next days, after the Club World Cup.

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June 16, 2025, 11:06:13 PM
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I want to see the power of dortmund in the bundesliga next season, they have not competed for the championship title for two seasons and that is a setback for them. Indeed, in the bundesliga the favorite team to be the champion is of course Bayern Munich but if they are not consistent then we will see another team that will be the champion.

I have the feeling that Borussia Dortmund is coming back the next season, especially when I see how much they progressed at the end of it.
Besides, they are trying to consolidate their team, they added the brother of Jude Bellingham to their team, coming from Sunderland. Their winger will likely stay after Chelsea refused to pay more for him. Maybe more news will come in the next days, after the Club World Cup.


Dortmund managed to overcome great pressure when entering the end of the season. Since being taken over by Niko Kovac, Dortmund has developed slowly until finally managing to finish in the Champions League zone. Traditionally, Dortmund is Bayern Munich main rival in the Bundesliga, with the depth of the squad they have, I think next season they will be able to rise again to enliven the competition for the trophy.

Jobe Bellingham will be a new sensation, he has the potential to develop into a great player, following in his brother footsteps. With the addition of this strength, Dortmund seems to be making it difficult for Bayern Munich to defend the trophy. If Dortmund changes its business model in buying and selling players, they will be able to break Bayern Munich dominance like Leverkusen once did.



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June 16, 2025, 11:22:12 PM
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I have the feeling that Borussia Dortmund is coming back the next season, especially when I see how much they progressed at the end of it.
Besides, they are trying to consolidate their team, they added the brother of Jude Bellingham to their team, coming from Sunderland. Their winger will likely stay after Chelsea refused to pay more for him. Maybe more news will come in the next days, after the Club World Cup.
Come back? Do you mean to be in the top 2 again?  Undecided
I'm not sure this team to have a big chance "come back" again if they still can't perform consistently. Even if they could show a good progress at the end of the last season, they actually didn't play consistently in the whole season. They got 11 losses and 6 draws, this is worse than the previous seasons. Well, Jobe Bellingham may be a good asset for Dortmund but he isn't in the same level of Jude Bellingham. I don't think he can change drastically the midfield line of Dortmund next season. I even a bit doubt that he can play regularly. TBH, I don't think the current squad of Dortmund is quite strong to compete with the big teams in Bundesliga. There should be some new stronger players, especially on the attacking and defense line.



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June 17, 2025, 12:56:21 AM
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Dortmund managed to overcome great pressure when entering the end of the season. Since being taken over by Niko Kovac, Dortmund has developed slowly until finally managing to finish in the Champions League zone. Traditionally, Dortmund is Bayern Munich main rival in the Bundesliga, with the depth of the squad they have, I think next season they will be able to rise again to enliven the competition for the trophy.

Jobe Bellingham will be a new sensation, he has the potential to develop into a great player, following in his brother footsteps. With the addition of this strength, Dortmund seems to be making it difficult for Bayern Munich to defend the trophy. If Dortmund changes its business model in buying and selling players, they will be able to break Bayern Munich dominance like Leverkusen once did.
Niko Kovac has really brought new hope to Dortmund helping them finish strong and get into Champions League after tough period which shows his great leadership. Their old rivalry with Bayern Munich could heat up again next season as Dortmund strong squad could genuinely challenge for Bundesliga title if they stay consistent. Arrival of Jobe Bellingham is also exciting. He has potential to become standout player like his brother Jude which would make Dortmund even stronger and signal their serious intent to challenge Bayern. If Dortmund can change their usual approach of selling top players and instead keep them or invest more wisely they might even break Bayern long hold on league much like Leverkusen did making upcoming season incredibly interesting.

 
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June 17, 2025, 03:02:09 AM
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I disagree with you and all clubs must win their domestic league titles if possible. It's unrealistic to think you can become UEFA Champions League champion without ability to win your domestic league trophy. You can win and not win a domestic title in one season in which you win Champions League title, but it is very different than unable to win domestic league for years.

Bayern Munich surely consider Bundesliga like a mandatory title that must be added into their club's hall of fame. It is a title of one of five biggest leagues in Europe and has considerable value than any friendly tournament cup.

You don't think differently from me, you just didn't read carefully. No one said that Bayern doesn't have to win the Bundesliga. We said Bayern already win the Bundesliga every year, it's not an achievement for them. Bayern should already win the Bundesliga every year, winning the local league is not their goal. That's not the reason they spend millions of Euros. Their main goal is to win the Champions League. The Bundesliga is a small goal compared to that, it's something that should happen anyway.
Bayern Munich have always been a strong team in the German league and there have been very few seasons where they have fallen behind in the local league title race. Bayern Munich won the league title last season, only to lose the title to Bayer Leverkusen by a few points last season, but they have made a comeback from there. But Bayern Munich may have one regret for the next few seasons, and that regret is that they could not do well in the Champions League.

They did well against PSG in the 2019-20 Champions League and that season they became champions, but after that they could not do well in the Champions League again. Every season they seem to be the favorite team in the Champions League, but for some reason they cannot finish well. However, they should focus their full attention on the Champions League and plan accordingly keeping in mind that they have to win the Champions League.

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June 17, 2025, 12:22:31 PM
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Bayern Munich have always been a strong team in the German league and there have been very few seasons where they have fallen behind in the local league title race. Bayern Munich won the league title last season, only to lose the title to Bayer Leverkusen by a few points last season, but they have made a comeback from there. But Bayern Munich may have one regret for the next few seasons, and that regret is that they could not do well in the Champions League.

They did well against PSG in the 2019-20 Champions League and that season they became champions, but after that they could not do well in the Champions League again. Every season they seem to be the favorite team in the Champions League, but for some reason they cannot finish well. However, they should focus their full attention on the Champions League and plan accordingly keeping in mind that they have to win the Champions League.

By a few points last season? What are you talking about?

Last season Leverkusen finished with a record breaking 90 points without a defeat and the only season that was ever finished with more points, but defeats included, was when Heynckes managed them and got 91 points.

I don't understand what you are saying "by a few points last season". Leverkusen was out of reach and Bayern had no chance to close the gap weeks, if not over a month before the season ended.

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