[ANN] Expanse (EXP) - 1st Stable fork of Ethereum (New Algo + PirlGuard)

[defaced]

Makes 30 minutes now, is there anything I can try?

ctrl+c out and reopen it

Done and still the same :-/
Is there a way to compile without UPNP?

what cmd are you using to start gexp?

[antho281]

Ubuntu 14.04
Terminal -­> go1.4

[defaced]

Ubuntu 14.04
Terminal -­> go1.4

did you load the genesis and everything?

[antho281]

Ubuntu 14.04
Terminal -­> go1.4

did you load the genesis and everything?

This is the line I'm getting a problem with :

build/bin/gexp --genesis test_genesis.json

[Odd Thomas]

This is also a testnet and we will also have those things too

I'll rebase with the latest eth changes aswell.

Will the release code and compiled windows binary be tested prior to launch?

[defaced]

This is also a testnet and we will also have those things too

I'll rebase with the latest eth changes aswell.

Will the release code and compiled windows binary be tested prior to launch?

Yes it will be.

[Bagdar13]

More justifications for the 2.7 years of coin premine go here.

11 million, 60 million, hell take it all. It will have no value on any exchange either way. No value means no money for you and no ability to work on it fulltime. Take a far smaller premine, lock it up in contracts released once a month (you say you want a wage right, not an up front moneygrab) and buy orders will actually be placed on exchanges, and you will be able to work on it fulltime.

I consider this a rather insightfull comment.  This currency can actually self regulate its own premine (unlike previous bitcoin clones).  If the devs were to lock up the funds in the block chain and set a release mechanism at set points in time it would go a long long way to building trust.  Especially if the first pay out was set a month or two in the future.  Some aditional contracts could be set up for bounties etc.  

It is what we are doing. Its all in the OP

No you are granting yourself 10% at launch, the point made by the previous poster was you should delay that at least a while, until it is not such a large % of the total supply.  I appreciate the fact that as "gas" or crypto fuel this is not the same concept as a pure currency, but as the reality is it will have some monetary value which you could sell on an exchange. The point is if you want to build trust that should not be available immediate upon launch and at the time of the release should not be a large % of the total supply.  This action in conjunction with acontract controling the release is the act that builds trust.

My recomendation is propose somthing more like: at any point the relase is no more than 5% the total supply to yourselves, and the first drop does not happen for at least a few weeks.   If you want to control additional contracts with releases for bounties thats great too, but you have 10% at launch right now that could be dumped.  I see nothing contrary to this.

If you want to use the 10% as a "wage" thats totally legitimate, but then do it as an ICO and then let contracts implement a thawing out period to distrubute those funds to the ICO participants over a period of time as well.

[therealbigcoin]

ok i have still no peers, port is forwarded (udp) and i added both peers.
Can u add me maybe with my nodeurl?

"enode://a70a1af4753758ac65faafe849faa1bb030cda10749692bf4cf48f1240f9e38927c19bf6019c66b0664ed6037128d6554c70af056781404fc36145804718dbf9@85.127.45.88:42786",

thanks

[defaced]

More justifications for the 2.7 years of coin premine go here.

11 million, 60 million, hell take it all. It will have no value on any exchange either way. No value means no money for you and no ability to work on it fulltime. Take a far smaller premine, lock it up in contracts released once a month (you say you want a wage right, not an up front moneygrab) and buy orders will actually be placed on exchanges, and you will be able to work on it fulltime.

I consider this a rather insightfull comment.  This currency can actually self regulate its own premine (unlike previous bitcoin clones).  If the devs were to lock up the funds in the block chain and set a release mechanism at set points in time it would go a long long way to building trust.  Especially if the first pay out was set a month or two in the future.  Some aditional contracts could be set up for bounties etc.  

It is what we are doing. Its all in the OP

No you are granting yourself 10% at launch, the point made by the previous poster was you should delay that at least a while, until it is not such a large % of the total supply.  I appreciate the fact that as "gas" or crypto fuel this is not the same concept as a pure currency, but as the reality is it will have some monetary value which you could sell on an exchange. The point is if you want to build trust that should not be available immediate upon launch and at the time of the release should not be a large % of the total supply.  This action in conjunction with acontract controling the release is the act that builds trust.

My recomendation is propose somthing more like: at any point the relase is no more than 5% the total supply to yourselves, and the first drop does not happen for at least a few weeks.   If you want to control additional contracts with releases for bounties thats great too, but you have 10% at launch right now that could be dumped.  I see nothing contrary to this.

If you want to use the 10% as a "wage" thats totally legitimate, but then do it as an ICO and then let contracts implement a thawing out period to distrubute those funds to the ICO participants over a period of time as well.

We are exploring other ideas. One idea that has popped up in our slack chat was to take the 1.1m we are getting up front and locking up 1m in a founders dao and have it drip to us on a regularly basis that way the community funds are spent completely democratically and independently of the founders reserve. Which would leave 100k initially to pay bounties with.

[defaced]

ok i have still no peers, port is forwarded (udp) and i added both peers.
Can u add me maybe with my nodeurl?

"enode://a70a1af4753758ac65faafe849faa1bb030cda10749692bf4cf48f1240f9e38927c19bf6019c66b0664ed6037128d6554c70af056781404fc36145804718dbf9@85.127.45.88:42786",

thanks

you should have a couple peers now.

[therealbigcoin]

working thanks man

[defaced]

working thanks man

try to break it

[therealbigcoin]

so can i mine ethereum with this too?? same algo and such ...

[CryptoClub]

More justifications for the 2.7 years of coin premine go here.

11 million, 60 million, hell take it all. It will have no value on any exchange either way. No value means no money for you and no ability to work on it fulltime. Take a far smaller premine, lock it up in contracts released once a month (you say you want a wage right, not an up front moneygrab) and buy orders will actually be placed on exchanges, and you will be able to work on it fulltime.

I consider this a rather insightfull comment.  This currency can actually self regulate its own premine (unlike previous bitcoin clones).  If the devs were to lock up the funds in the block chain and set a release mechanism at set points in time it would go a long long way to building trust.  Especially if the first pay out was set a month or two in the future.  Some aditional contracts could be set up for bounties etc.  

It is what we are doing. Its all in the OP

No you are granting yourself 10% at launch, the point made by the previous poster was you should delay that at least a while, until it is not such a large % of the total supply.  I appreciate the fact that as "gas" or crypto fuel this is not the same concept as a pure currency, but as the reality is it will have some monetary value which you could sell on an exchange. The point is if you want to build trust that should not be available immediate upon launch and at the time of the release should not be a large % of the total supply.  This action in conjunction with acontract controling the release is the act that builds trust.

My recomendation is propose somthing more like: at any point the relase is no more than 5% the total supply to yourselves, and the first drop does not happen for at least a few weeks.   If you want to control additional contracts with releases for bounties thats great too, but you have 10% at launch right now that could be dumped.  I see nothing contrary to this.

If you want to use the 10% as a "wage" thats totally legitimate, but then do it as an ICO and then let contracts implement a thawing out period to distrubute those funds to the ICO participants over a period of time as well.

We are exploring other ideas. One idea that has popped up in our slack chat was to take the 1.1m we are getting up front and locking up 1m in a founders dao and have it drip to us on a regularly basis that way the community funds are spent completely democratically and independently of the founders reserve. Which would leave 100k initially to pay bounties with.

I like it, we would be holding most anyway with the original plan as this is a long term project, but this way people should have *much* less concern since it would be enforced by smart contracts. (I disagree about having an ICO, but I think releasing the founders reserve slowly over time would be a good change and help with trust)

[Zackgeno96]

has there been a window release yet? if so can someone quote me to the post, thanks in advance 

[Wicked Sick]

Where windows compile?

[CryptoClub]

has there been a window release yet? if so can someone quote me to the post, thanks in advance  

I believe Franko was getting it ready, I will forward the question to him.

[Shame_Game]

Day of testing down and still no windows.

[CryptoClub]

Day of testing down and still no windows.

Testing went fine for Linux and Windows is coming soon. (This is just testing)

[CowboyKiller]

Testing went fine for Linux and Windows is coming soon. (This is just testing)

Windows needs at least as much testing as Linux if not more. If you cant compile windows you need to delay the launch.