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January 15, 2016, 10:10:10 PM
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I can't recall if I saw the issue I'm having before on this post but searching hasn't yielded any results.

One of my Compacs has been running for about 10 days straight, more or less in a group of five.  I've kept them at 150MHz until about 2 days ago and ramped them up first to 160MHz and the 170MHz the following day.  After showing HW errors at 0.01% in about 4 hours I went back down to 165MHz where they ran for another 14 hours or so.

When I checked again at that time, HW errors was in the K range and steadily climbing.  CryptoGlance showed the Compac hashing at a rate over 100GH/s and the status light on the Compac was rapidly flashing.

Initially after pulling the Compac from the USB hub I have found the voltage at 4.99 - 5.00, current draw at 0.22 amps, and V/Core at 0.630V when on standby.  Plugging it back into the hub with cgminer running, the status LED continues flashing rapidly with HW errors at a corresponding rate.  I tried turning the V/Core pot down as well as up to approximately 0.750V with no change.

I was wondering first if there is anything physical I can try and look at and failing anything simple and/or obvious, if I could send it in for inspection and possibly repair?

Thanks in advance.
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January 15, 2016, 10:38:13 PM
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For Clarification...
Morguk, Biodom told me, who was apparently told by that other kind member.  Information flows nicely Smiley

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January 15, 2016, 10:47:51 PM
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For Clarification...
Morguk, Biodom told me, who was apparently told by that other kind member.  Information flows nicely Smiley

Ah right, thanks Biodom and friends! Smiley

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January 16, 2016, 03:26:21 AM
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I can't recall if I saw the issue I'm having before on this post but searching hasn't yielded any results.

One of my Compacs has been running for about 10 days straight, more or less in a group of five.  I've kept them at 150MHz until about 2 days ago and ramped them up first to 160MHz and the 170MHz the following day.  After showing HW errors at 0.01% in about 4 hours I went back down to 165MHz where they ran for another 14 hours or so.

When I checked again at that time, HW errors was in the K range and steadily climbing.  CryptoGlance showed the Compac hashing at a rate over 100GH/s and the status light on the Compac was rapidly flashing.

Initially after pulling the Compac from the USB hub I have found the voltage at 4.99 - 5.00, current draw at 0.22 amps, and V/Core at 0.630V when on standby.  Plugging it back into the hub with cgminer running, the status LED continues flashing rapidly with HW errors at a corresponding rate.  I tried turning the V/Core pot down as well as up to approximately 0.750V with no change.

I was wondering first if there is anything physical I can try and look at and failing anything simple and/or obvious, if I could send it in for inspection and possibly repair?

Thanks in advance.

On what kind of hub and what kind of power going in to it?

At 0.22 amps (USB 2.0 should be ~0.500 amps, so your less than half, USB 3.0 should be ~0.900 amps), so it's more than likely power (or the lack of it) causing your problems. Probably when you started ramping up the MHz, it pushed the hub  past what it could handle.
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January 16, 2016, 03:41:18 AM
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Darn it, the right 70W Superbpag usb 3.0 is now unavailable from Amazon.
Can usb 2.0 slots actually handle higher current than 0.4A?
That said, did anybody used Plugable 2.0 powered hub to run sticks with or without Y cables with at least the default speed?


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thanks, I meant this one:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00L2LK164

I don't see an upright 10-12 slot Plugable on Amazon-must be an earlier product.

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Yea, I've got one of those (the 7 port 60W ones) and it will do 4 stick at 175MHz (no Y cables (but that's kind of pushing it)). Had it before going with the Superbpag one.
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January 16, 2016, 08:15:33 AM
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I can't recall if I saw the issue I'm having before on this post but searching hasn't yielded any results.

One of my Compacs has been running for about 10 days straight, more or less in a group of five.  I've kept them at 150MHz until about 2 days ago and ramped them up first to 160MHz and the 170MHz the following day.  After showing HW errors at 0.01% in about 4 hours I went back down to 165MHz where they ran for another 14 hours or so.

When I checked again at that time, HW errors was in the K range and steadily climbing.  CryptoGlance showed the Compac hashing at a rate over 100GH/s and the status light on the Compac was rapidly flashing.

Initially after pulling the Compac from the USB hub I have found the voltage at 4.99 - 5.00, current draw at 0.22 amps, and V/Core at 0.630V when on standby.  Plugging it back into the hub with cgminer running, the status LED continues flashing rapidly with HW errors at a corresponding rate.  I tried turning the V/Core pot down as well as up to approximately 0.750V with no change.

I was wondering first if there is anything physical I can try and look at and failing anything simple and/or obvious, if I could send it in for inspection and possibly repair?

Thanks in advance.

On what kind of hub and what kind of power going in to it?

At 0.22 amps (USB 2.0 should be ~0.500 amps, so your less than half, USB 3.0 should be ~0.900 amps), so it's more than likely power (or the lack of it) causing your problems. Probably when you started ramping up the MHz, it pushed the hub  past what it could handle.
I'm using a Superbpag hub.  I've checked on different ports on the hub and the other four Compacs have normal indications.
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January 16, 2016, 01:17:33 PM
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I can't recall if I saw the issue I'm having before on this post but searching hasn't yielded any results.

One of my Compacs has been running for about 10 days straight, more or less in a group of five.  I've kept them at 150MHz until about 2 days ago and ramped them up first to 160MHz and the 170MHz the following day.  After showing HW errors at 0.01% in about 4 hours I went back down to 165MHz where they ran for another 14 hours or so.

When I checked again at that time, HW errors was in the K range and steadily climbing.  CryptoGlance showed the Compac hashing at a rate over 100GH/s and the status light on the Compac was rapidly flashing.

Initially after pulling the Compac from the USB hub I have found the voltage at 4.99 - 5.00, current draw at 0.22 amps, and V/Core at 0.630V when on standby.  Plugging it back into the hub with cgminer running, the status LED continues flashing rapidly with HW errors at a corresponding rate.  I tried turning the V/Core pot down as well as up to approximately 0.750V with no change.

I was wondering first if there is anything physical I can try and look at and failing anything simple and/or obvious, if I could send it in for inspection and possibly repair?

Thanks in advance.

If you go back a little ways, I've managed to get my test stick to go in that hyper mode, the issue I think was, it got to hot, and the controller got confused, simple little trick, fan! Wink



Well, I'll attempt to recreate the "issue" and I'll get another screen-cap. I thought it was funny watching the little thing pulling 150GHs, I was waiting for smoke to bellow out!

Since the thing is sitting on a EEEPC701, to much voltage pulled would shut the system down, not make it pop a fuse.. I can see the green light dropping intensity when voltage starts getting pulled..

the best I got out of it.. pot to the max, 380Mhz burning the eeepc701's volt regs!
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January 16, 2016, 02:45:05 PM
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I can't recall if I saw the issue I'm having before on this post but searching hasn't yielded any results.

One of my Compacs has been running for about 10 days straight, more or less in a group of five.  I've kept them at 150MHz until about 2 days ago and ramped them up first to 160MHz and the 170MHz the following day.  After showing HW errors at 0.01% in about 4 hours I went back down to 165MHz where they ran for another 14 hours or so.

When I checked again at that time, HW errors was in the K range and steadily climbing.  CryptoGlance showed the Compac hashing at a rate over 100GH/s and the status light on the Compac was rapidly flashing.

Initially after pulling the Compac from the USB hub I have found the voltage at 4.99 - 5.00, current draw at 0.22 amps, and V/Core at 0.630V when on standby.  Plugging it back into the hub with cgminer running, the status LED continues flashing rapidly with HW errors at a corresponding rate.  I tried turning the V/Core pot down as well as up to approximately 0.750V with no change.

I was wondering first if there is anything physical I can try and look at and failing anything simple and/or obvious, if I could send it in for inspection and possibly repair?

Thanks in advance.

On what kind of hub and what kind of power going in to it?

At 0.22 amps (USB 2.0 should be ~0.500 amps, so your less than half, USB 3.0 should be ~0.900 amps), so it's more than likely power (or the lack of it) causing your problems. Probably when you started ramping up the MHz, it pushed the hub  past what it could handle.
I'm using a Superbpag hub.  I've checked on different ports on the hub and the other four Compacs have normal indications.

Which Superbpag, they make a couple different ones, up to the 70W one's?

A easy test if it's the hub, pull 1 of the sticks that hashing OK and plug the bad hashing one in to the OK's one port. If it works, plug the just pulled OK one in where the bad one was and see what it does.
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January 16, 2016, 06:20:23 PM
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I can't recall if I saw the issue I'm having before on this post but searching hasn't yielded any results.

One of my Compacs has been running for about 10 days straight, more or less in a group of five.  I've kept them at 150MHz until about 2 days ago and ramped them up first to 160MHz and the 170MHz the following day.  After showing HW errors at 0.01% in about 4 hours I went back down to 165MHz where they ran for another 14 hours or so.

When I checked again at that time, HW errors was in the K range and steadily climbing.  CryptoGlance showed the Compac hashing at a rate over 100GH/s and the status light on the Compac was rapidly flashing.

Initially after pulling the Compac from the USB hub I have found the voltage at 4.99 - 5.00, current draw at 0.22 amps, and V/Core at 0.630V when on standby.  Plugging it back into the hub with cgminer running, the status LED continues flashing rapidly with HW errors at a corresponding rate.  I tried turning the V/Core pot down as well as up to approximately 0.750V with no change.

I was wondering first if there is anything physical I can try and look at and failing anything simple and/or obvious, if I could send it in for inspection and possibly repair?

Thanks in advance.

On what kind of hub and what kind of power going in to it?

At 0.22 amps (USB 2.0 should be ~0.500 amps, so your less than half, USB 3.0 should be ~0.900 amps), so it's more than likely power (or the lack of it) causing your problems. Probably when you started ramping up the MHz, it pushed the hub  past what it could handle.
I'm using a Superbpag hub.  I've checked on different ports on the hub and the other four Compacs have normal indications.
Four sticks run fine on 70W Superbpag, but fifth one is usually unstable-large number of errors.
However, sometimes, but not always, five work. In my experience it works depending on stick arrangement on the particular Superbpag hub-for example three in a row, gap, fourth, gap, fifth, on mine. But it not always work. Sometimes it works if you put four initially, let them stabilize, then sneak in the fifth one.

Also, make sure to separate sticks from each other by a piece of plastic (I simply used an old store card or old library card without magnetic strips, but this point might not matter). Otherwise, sticks touch each other in the hub and I am not sure that there is no interference.

TL;DR: five can work at default speed, but four are typically more stable on Superbpag.
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January 16, 2016, 06:28:21 PM
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I can't recall if I saw the issue I'm having before on this post but searching hasn't yielded any results.

One of my Compacs has been running for about 10 days straight, more or less in a group of five.  I've kept them at 150MHz until about 2 days ago and ramped them up first to 160MHz and the 170MHz the following day.  After showing HW errors at 0.01% in about 4 hours I went back down to 165MHz where they ran for another 14 hours or so.

When I checked again at that time, HW errors was in the K range and steadily climbing.  CryptoGlance showed the Compac hashing at a rate over 100GH/s and the status light on the Compac was rapidly flashing.

Initially after pulling the Compac from the USB hub I have found the voltage at 4.99 - 5.00, current draw at 0.22 amps, and V/Core at 0.630V when on standby.  Plugging it back into the hub with cgminer running, the status LED continues flashing rapidly with HW errors at a corresponding rate.  I tried turning the V/Core pot down as well as up to approximately 0.750V with no change.

I was wondering first if there is anything physical I can try and look at and failing anything simple and/or obvious, if I could send it in for inspection and possibly repair?

Thanks in advance.

If you go back a little ways, I've managed to get my test stick to go in that hyper mode, the issue I think was, it got to hot, and the controller got confused, simple little trick, fan! Wink



Well, I'll attempt to recreate the "issue" and I'll get another screen-cap. I thought it was funny watching the little thing pulling 150GHs, I was waiting for smoke to bellow out!

Since the thing is sitting on a EEEPC701, to much voltage pulled would shut the system down, not make it pop a fuse.. I can see the green light dropping intensity when voltage starts getting pulled..

the best I got out of it.. pot to the max, 380Mhz burning the eeepc701's volt regs!

Those GH are "not real" just by looking at WU-probably just controller confusion. Even at 23Gh/s WU should be above 330.
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I can't recall if I saw the issue I'm having before on this post but searching hasn't yielded any results.

One of my Compacs has been running for about 10 days straight, more or less in a group of five.  I've kept them at 150MHz until about 2 days ago and ramped them up first to 160MHz and the 170MHz the following day.  After showing HW errors at 0.01% in about 4 hours I went back down to 165MHz where they ran for another 14 hours or so.

When I checked again at that time, HW errors was in the K range and steadily climbing.  CryptoGlance showed the Compac hashing at a rate over 100GH/s and the status light on the Compac was rapidly flashing.

Initially after pulling the Compac from the USB hub I have found the voltage at 4.99 - 5.00, current draw at 0.22 amps, and V/Core at 0.630V when on standby.  Plugging it back into the hub with cgminer running, the status LED continues flashing rapidly with HW errors at a corresponding rate.  I tried turning the V/Core pot down as well as up to approximately 0.750V with no change.

I was wondering first if there is anything physical I can try and look at and failing anything simple and/or obvious, if I could send it in for inspection and possibly repair?

Thanks in advance.

On what kind of hub and what kind of power going in to it?

At 0.22 amps (USB 2.0 should be ~0.500 amps, so your less than half, USB 3.0 should be ~0.900 amps), so it's more than likely power (or the lack of it) causing your problems. Probably when you started ramping up the MHz, it pushed the hub  past what it could handle.
I'm using a Superbpag hub.  I've checked on different ports on the hub and the other four Compacs have normal indications.

Which Superbpag, they make a couple different ones, up to the 70W one's?

A easy test if it's the hub, pull 1 of the sticks that hashing OK and plug the bad hashing one in to the OK's one port. If it works, plug the just pulled OK one in where the bad one was and see what it does.


If you go back a little ways, I've managed to get my test stick to go in that hyper mode, the issue I think was, it got to hot, and the controller got confused, simple little trick, fan! Wink



Four sticks run fine on 70W Superbpag, but fifth one is usually unstable-large number of errors.
However, sometimes, but not always, five work. In my experience it works depending on stick arrangement on the particular Superbpag hub-for example three in a row, gap, fourth, gap, fifth, on mine. But it not always work. Sometimes it works if you put four initially, let them stabilize, then sneak in the fifth one.

Also, make sure to separate sticks from each other by a piece of plastic (I simply used an old store card or old library card without magnetic strips, but this point might not matter). Otherwise, sticks touch each other in the hub and I am not sure that there is no interference.

TL;DR: five can work at default speed, but four are typically more stable on Superbpag.
Thank you for all the responses.

First, Jake36.  I realized later that you're asking me to check the current while the Compac is working instead of idle.  I get 0.61-0.65 amps working with the V/Core at 0.631V.  The other Compacs pull around 0.88A but I haven't turned down the V/Core yet (0.750).

I am using a 70W Superbpag.  I was hoping for a hub problem since that's easier to replace so the port swap with good Compacs was the first check.  No luck for me...

ARJGale, the Compac throwing errors was pulled and left alone for about 32 hours and started throwing errors right away when started again.

Biodom, I'm wondering if instability is what occurred when I tried five at 170MHz but I didn't run them long enough at that point to find out.  I ordered a couple more Compacs from the second batch so I'll have to check for that as well after I get them.
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January 17, 2016, 01:37:51 AM
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How can I overclock to 400mhz?
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January 17, 2016, 07:36:40 AM
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How can I overclock to 400mhz?

Read 71 pages Smiley (or use the search field at the top of the page Smiley)

- good power
- properly set vcore
- optimised cooling (stock is not enough)

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Those GH are "not real" just by looking at WU-probably just controller confusion. Even at 23Gh/s WU should be above 330.

oh i know, it seems to be the controller using all the data from the asic (or the asic just spitting everything, forgetting to filter out the bad hashes, or out of sync with its cores, mixing up the data), and just giving the software whatever it gets.. and that was only running for about 3 minutes without a fan to get that result, since mine is overclocked and all that..
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January 17, 2016, 01:07:15 PM
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Wow so cool I tried but got errors and afraid I might break something, which power supply do I need?
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January 17, 2016, 03:52:30 PM
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Wow so cool I tried but got errors and afraid I might break something, which power supply do I need?

Hint:

the answer is in the first post and here:


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January 17, 2016, 05:58:06 PM
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yea I have the A-300:

http://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/Cool-style-USB-2-0-HUB-Charger-10-ports-with-CE-ROHS-FCC-certification/1938705_32513481030.html

looks according to the specs only 600mA per port...sucks.

I would still like to know if there is a way in general to test the max Amp per port on a US hub manually?
Thanks!

someone said (sorry don't have the proper reference handy) that Superbpag usb 3.0 works fine with Raspberry pi and Compacs.
it has seven ports with 2A per port, apparently, for a total of 70W/14A, but costs $36, similar to 10 port Anker.
http://www.amazon.com/Superbpag-Portable-Charger-Transfer-Samsung/dp/B013OK10YM

That's the hub (Superbpag) I used for the 24hr over-clock contest run in the compac solo club. Ran one stick with Y set-up at 435MHz got/getting 23.87GH (I haven't shut it down yet and in about 10min it'll be 36hrs run).

can usb connector even handle the Y setup on this hub (rhetorical question, of course)? doubling from 2A to 4A per slot?

yea I have the A-300:

http://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/Cool-style-USB-2-0-HUB-Charger-10-ports-with-CE-ROHS-FCC-certification/1938705_32513481030.html

looks according to the specs only 600mA per port...sucks.

I would still like to know if there is a way in general to test the max Amp per port on a US hub manually?
Thanks!

someone said (sorry don't have the proper reference handy) that Superbpag usb 3.0 works fine with Raspberry pi and Compacs.
it has seven ports with 2A per port, apparently, for a total of 70W/14A, but costs $36, similar to 10 port Anker.
http://www.amazon.com/Superbpag-Portable-Charger-Transfer-Samsung/dp/B013OK10YM

It looks like a nice hub.  Only problem is a lot of us RPI users are using 2.0 , USB 3.0 Hub's don't seem to like RPI.   Hopefully they come out with a RPI that can handle most usb 3.0 hubs someday.

Until then I will be gettin 2.0 for the most part.  Just hard to beat RPI as a controller.

actually, someone (Jake36, probably) specifically mentioned that this particular usb 3.0 hub (Superbpag) handles raspberry pi well, if I am not mistaken.
It was me and it's not available at Amazon under that name anymore but the identical hub is named PAG now.  Do a search for pag usb hub on Amazon.  These are great and do run on the Pi using usb3.
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January 17, 2016, 06:10:21 PM
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http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B013QQKTZ0/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?qid=1453054117&sr=8-1&pi=SL75_QL70&keywords=pag+usb+hub


I'll be in Santa Clara (CA) in 10 weeks, hopefully I'll remember to get one of these....

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It was me and it's not available at Amazon under that name anymore but the identical hub is named PAG now.  Do a search for pag usb hub on Amazon.  These are great and do run on the Pi using usb3.

Yes. I seen it mentioned some where (but couldn't remember by who) and gave it a shot.

Been working great, except for if you push it hard, it gets way to hot.

Been thinking of opening it up to see if I could cut some slots and maybe add a little 5V Pi case fan, to get some air flow inside the hub to help keep it cool.
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January 17, 2016, 09:03:47 PM
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Hi, i have my euro stick running ok on windows 7 with cgminer but now I am trying to run it under ubuntu Mate in a Raspberry 2. I am getting some errors and then the stick goes zombie. The stick is detected as AU3 GS-10000 and those are the errors:

When i launch cgminer it says No devices detected but then the stick is detected and starts mining

Code:
[2016-01-17 22:00:45] AU3 0: No valid hashes for over 3 secs, attempting to rese
t
 [2016-01-17 22:00:45] AU3 0 attempted reset got err:(0) LIBUSB_SUCCESS / LIBUSB_
TRANSFER_COMPLETED
 [2016-01-17 22:00:52] AU3 0: No valid hashes for over 3 secs, attempting to rese
t
 [2016-01-17 22:00:52] AU3 0 attempted reset got err:(0) LIBUSB_SUCCESS / LIBUSB_
TRANSFER_COMPLETED

The command i use is:

Code:
sudo cgminer -o stratum+tcp://solo.ckpool.org:3333 -u 1JiWuyX94wrCr7JhkAn7x5qNMCEef1KhqX.Jan11bix0stick --au3-freq 150

Any help please?
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