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[Trofo]

Wow, I thought Cilic has retired a while ago, at least he hasn't played for quite some time.

Well, he plays like it
He got knocked out in straight sets by Flavio Cobolli, I actually had to Google the guy.

Looked so slow and out of the game, you could see that these are his first matches of the season.
He's 35 and was never a player with high stamina and physical durability so he's probably playing the last matches of his career.

He looked great first 3 points in the match You should have heard our local commentary, the guy said Djoković is playing his best tennis with 37 years so Cilić can surely play another 2 or 3 seasons of great tennis. That being said Cobolli played great tennis and if he was capable of producing that every match he would be top 20 player for sure, probably even top 10.

Nothing much to say about this one, as you said this was his first match of the season after bad knee injury and we all have seen how some other great players had problems to return. Zverev needed a lot of time after breaking an ankle and Thiem never properly retuned and both are way younger than Čilić.

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Nothing much to say about this one, as you said this was his first match of the season after bad knee injury and we all have seen how some other great players had problems to return. Zverev needed a lot of time after breaking an ankle and Thiem never properly retuned and both are way younger than Čilić.

yeah, Thiem never properly continued playing tennis after injury
I am always having DelPo on my mind when hearing about injuries, pretty sure he would have 5+ GS's if not for so many injuries, even with all three top players playing at same time

off-topic, Djokovic is on vacation in Dubrovnik, as I can see, but not giving interviewes regarding Wimbledon

[Trofo]

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Nothing much to say about this one, as you said this was his first match of the season after bad knee injury and we all have seen how some other great players had problems to return. Zverev needed a lot of time after breaking an ankle and Thiem never properly retuned and both are way younger than Čilić.

yeah, Thiem never properly continued playing tennis after injury
I am always having DelPo on my mind when hearing about injuries, pretty sure he would have 5+ GS's if not for so many injuries, even with all three top players playing at same time

off-topic, Djokovic is on vacation in Dubrovnik, as I can see, but not giving interviewes regarding Wimbledon

Delpo is one of my favorite players ever but his situation was different. He had a series of injuries on his both wrists and also something with knees. That was chronic and he was missing huge parts of tour. Guys I mentioned had more or less injury free careers and then just one bad injury after which they are getting back. It is mentally totally different problem.

Still remember how Delpo had to start playing backhand slice instead of his booming hits just to have a chance to play.

[cryptofrka]

I watched Delpo live vs an inform Čilić in a Davis Cup final in Croatia.

Čilić was leading 2-0 and it looked like Croatia will win the Cup, but when Delpo started playing his top tennis there was simply nothing Čilić could do. He still played good, but you could see just how much better Del Potro really was.

After Federer and Nalbandian my favorite tennis player, and it's such a shame that his career was cut short due to injuries. Both him and Murray would have given the top 3 a run for their money.

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off-topic, Djokovic is on vacation in Dubrovnik, as I can see, but not giving interviewes regarding Wimbledon

I dont blame him - its done, he gave his interviews, what are people expecting of him
at this stage?


Meanwhile over at Atlanta I'm keeping an eye and following on Eubanks, he is
into the Round of 16 after beating Martin and faces Nakashima tomorrow.

All the top seeds are through, de Minaur plays Kokkinakis, Fritz plays Wu and Evans
plays Koepfer, I think de Minaur has the tougher of the matches.

[mv1986]

This was an interesting game for Rublev against Zapata Miralles and since we had the discussion about Medvedev recently about how he behaves during games and his gestures and he turns into an amateurish player all of a sudden, Rublev is highly motivated and doesn't want to lose a single game even if it's a rather unimportant tournament and the first round for him. But he is showing emotions and body tension to handle difficult situations like he had in this what supposed to be an easy game for him. He is not my favorite player, but it's good to see players who take the sport and the competition seriously no matter where and when they play.

[bitbollo]

I watched Delpo live vs an inform Čilić in a Davis Cup final in Croatia.

Čilić was leading 2-0 and it looked like Croatia will win the Cup, but when Delpo started playing his top tennis there was simply nothing Čilić could do. He still played good, but you could see just how much better Del Potro really was.

After Federer and Nalbandian my favorite tennis player, and it's such a shame that his career was cut short due to injuries. Both him and Murray would have given the top 3 a run for their money.

Delpo was a great tennis player (if I remember correctly he was able to worry even Federer). But..After retiring is he now fit again to compete at a high level? somewhat what happens with Monfils during Roland Garros.. ok the "big comeback" but in the end fitness and age never play to their advantage... Players that deserve a look

[Marvell1]

This was an interesting game for Rublev against Zapata Miralles and since we had the discussion about Medvedev recently about how he behaves during games and his gestures and he turns into an amateurish player all of a sudden, Rublev is highly motivated and doesn't want to lose a single game even if it's a rather unimportant tournament and the first round for him. But he is showing emotions and body tension to handle difficult situations like he had in this what supposed to be an easy game for him. He is not my favorite player, but it's good to see players who take the sport and the competition seriously no matter where and when they play.

Rublev's performance in this match was commendable, showcasing an impressive comeback against Zapata. The first set was taken by Zapata. The second set was one sided and was also taken by Rublev. The third set was really competitive between both of them and it actually could have gone either way In my opinion. Anyway, it was good from him that in the end, he was able to win.

In the next match, Rublev will play against Altmaier. Let’s see how that match goes.

I also agree that it is certainly really good to see a player be very serious and take every match as an important one. But I also hope that it is going to put a lot of pressure on his body. he is only 25. So he should take care of himself and be careful that he does not get seriously injured.

[mv1986]

This was an interesting game for Rublev against Zapata Miralles and since we had the discussion about Medvedev recently about how he behaves during games and his gestures and he turns into an amateurish player all of a sudden, Rublev is highly motivated and doesn't want to lose a single game even if it's a rather unimportant tournament and the first round for him. But he is showing emotions and body tension to handle difficult situations like he had in this what supposed to be an easy game for him. He is not my favorite player, but it's good to see players who take the sport and the competition seriously no matter where and when they play.

Rublev's performance in this match was commendable, showcasing an impressive comeback against Zapata. The first set was taken by Zapata. The second set was one sided and was also taken by Rublev. The third set was really competitive between both of them and it actually could have gone either way In my opinion. Anyway, it was good from him that in the end, he was able to win.

In the next match, Rublev will play against Altmaier. Let’s see how that match goes.

I also agree that it is certainly really good to see a player be very serious and take every match as an important one. But I also hope that it is going to put a lot of pressure on his body. he is only 25. So he should take care of himself and be careful that he does not get seriously injured.

Both Ruud and Rublev had their weak moments and their opponents played great tennis, it didn't really look like their game is weaker than that of Ruud and Rublev, but in the end what really counts is to score the right points in the perfect moments of the game. That often sets those top players apart from those who play great, but not as successful. Both the Spaniard and Baez lost some points that were crucial to the endgame that they have scored before. That is when the mental part comes into play even more.

[serveria.com]

This was an interesting game for Rublev against Zapata Miralles and since we had the discussion about Medvedev recently about how he behaves during games and his gestures and he turns into an amateurish player all of a sudden, Rublev is highly motivated and doesn't want to lose a single game even if it's a rather unimportant tournament and the first round for him. But he is showing emotions and body tension to handle difficult situations like he had in this what supposed to be an easy game for him. He is not my favorite player, but it's good to see players who take the sport and the competition seriously no matter where and when they play.

Yes, Rublev seems very determined and focused lately. He managed to keep his focus in Bastad, he was trying really hard to do his best and was really disappointed by mistakes (slamming the net, swearing etc...) which shows his attitude towards the game. It has improved significantly in the last month or so. What could be the reason for this? Some changes in his team perhaps?

[mv1986]

This was an interesting game for Rublev against Zapata Miralles and since we had the discussion about Medvedev recently about how he behaves during games and his gestures and he turns into an amateurish player all of a sudden, Rublev is highly motivated and doesn't want to lose a single game even if it's a rather unimportant tournament and the first round for him. But he is showing emotions and body tension to handle difficult situations like he had in this what supposed to be an easy game for him. He is not my favorite player, but it's good to see players who take the sport and the competition seriously no matter where and when they play.

Yes, Rublev seems very determined and focused lately. He managed to keep his focus in Bastad, he was trying really hard to do his best and was really disappointed by mistakes (slamming the net, swearing etc...) which shows his attitude towards the game. It has improved significantly in the last month or so. What could be the reason for this? Some changes in his team perhaps?

I mean you could tell from a lot of things that he is putting more effort into focus and also into not giving up on a game early. That is what makes me mad when I see talented tennis players who have already been ranked no. 1 in the ATP ranking and then they behave as if they feel pissed and play the game after they are a break down as if they would prefer to walk off the court and take a shower. It is weird because as someone who follows sports one would think that they should enjoy their talent and try to come back when they are behind, love the competition and give their best while being paid millions. But no, sometimes a few of them just choose to throw away a game because they refuse to handle their emotions. Zverev is also like that. Kyrgios, Medvedev.

[Marvell1]

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Both Ruud and Rublev had their weak moments and their opponents played great tennis, it didn't really look like their game is weaker than that of Ruud and Rublev, but in the end what really counts is to score the right points in the perfect moments of the game. That often sets those top players apart from those who play great, but not as successful. Both the Spaniard and Baez lost some points that were crucial to the endgame that they have scored before. That is when the mental part comes into play even more.

The primary aspect that holds immense importance in every sport is maintaining composure. Rudd and Rublev were able to keep calm even when they were under pressure. And that is why they were able to win the matches, even when their opponent was actually quite good. Oftentimes, the mentality of a player is what sets them apart from others. Being mentally stoic is a really great attribute to have for any human being. Any player who can stay mentally strong, and believe that he can make a comeback even from the most impossible of situations, he will have a better chance to win the match.

Yes, Rublev seems very determined and focused lately. He managed to keep his focus in Bastad, he was trying really hard to do his best and was really disappointed by mistakes (slamming the net, swearing etc...) which shows his attitude towards the game. It has improved significantly in the last month or so. What could be the reason for this? Some changes in his team perhaps?

I mean you could tell from a lot of things that he is putting more effort into focus and also into not giving up on a game early. That is what makes me mad when I see talented tennis players who have already been ranked no. 1 in the ATP ranking and then they behave as if they feel pissed and play the game after they are a break down as if they would prefer to walk off the court and take a shower. It is weird because as someone who follows sports one would think that they should enjoy their talent and try to come back when they are behind, love the competition and give their best while being paid millions. But no, sometimes a few of them just choose to throw away a game because they refuse to handle their emotions. Zverev is also like that. Kyrgios, Medvedev.

Not controlling the emotion of a player is always going to be detrimental for his career. A lot of players actually do not understand that. It is best to actually control your emotion when things are going bad. That is going to make the opponent think that this is not affecting him negatively. And that is instantly going to make him psychologically superior compared to his appointment. So every player should know how to control his emotions.

[tusandii]

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Not controlling the emotion of a player is always going to be detrimental for his career. A lot of players actually do not understand that. It is best to actually control your emotion when things are going bad. That is going to make the opponent think that this is not affecting him negatively. And that is instantly going to make him psychologically superior compared to his appointment. So every player should know how to control his emotions.

You are right, in any sport if play with an emotional state it can be easy to make fatal mistakes and even end in defeat.
There are many players who deliberately make their opponents experience increased emotion and then can take advantage of it to winning.
Controlling emotions should be able to be done by every player, but unfortunately, as you said, many players don't understand controlling emotions so they can stay focused when competing.

I think Nick Kyrgios is one of those players who is easily provoked and experiences high emotions.

[Juggy777]

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Not controlling the emotion of a player is always going to be detrimental for his career. A lot of players actually do not understand that. It is best to actually control your emotion when things are going bad. That is going to make the opponent think that this is not affecting him negatively. And that is instantly going to make him psychologically superior compared to his appointment. So every player should know how to control his emotions.

You are right, in any sport if play with an emotional state it can be easy to make fatal mistakes and even end in defeat.
There are many players who deliberately make their opponents experience increased emotion and then can take advantage of it to winning.
Controlling emotions should be able to be done by every player, but unfortunately, as you said, many players don't understand controlling emotions so they can stay focused when competing.

I think Nick Kyrgios is one of those players who is easily provoked and experiences high emotions.

@tusandi I feel that when player’s vent it on the court they get extra charged up because they are signalling to the opponent that they’re annoyed and they’re coming for them and this can often effect the opponents rhythm because now they know that the other player will be extra careful and avoid making mistakes. Lastly in this sport it’s very difficult to maintain your cool and masking it is a very difficult task hence I can understand why the player’s let their emotions out during the match.

[Joca97]

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Not controlling the emotion of a player is always going to be detrimental for his career. A lot of players actually do not understand that. It is best to actually control your emotion when things are going bad. That is going to make the opponent think that this is not affecting him negatively. And that is instantly going to make him psychologically superior compared to his appointment. So every player should know how to control his emotions.

You are right, in any sport if play with an emotional state it can be easy to make fatal mistakes and even end in defeat.
There are many players who deliberately make their opponents experience increased emotion and then can take advantage of it to winning.
Controlling emotions should be able to be done by every player, but unfortunately, as you said, many players don't understand controlling emotions so they can stay focused when competing.

I think Nick Kyrgios is one of those players who is easily provoked and experiences high emotions.

This is an individual sport so its all upto the player. If he dosent go into the match well and gets provoked easily he will lose the match o most always. Kyrgios is the main example of a player that usually dosent care about tennis and gets provoked easily but still his quality is big but because of his head he cannot due anything big in this sport.

[mv1986]

This is an individual sport so its all upto the player. If he dosent go into the match well and gets provoked easily he will lose the match o most always. Kyrgios is the main example of a player that usually dosent care about tennis and gets provoked easily but still his quality is big but because of his head he cannot due anything big in this sport.

This and and also among the most important qualities of smart players like Federer or Djokovic - besides their incredible talent and natural skill - is that they anticipate and provoke the moment when their opponents fall apart (or fell apart when Roger was still active). They know it is going to happen any moment and it only needs one more unforced error or one excellent return that leaves their opponent without a chance and that's it. Almost every player has this tipping point and there are very few who can handle a game as if it was still winnable when it was essentially lost. But they play their best and their highest focus game until the match point of the opponent is declared valid by the referee. In tennis this can be so exhausting playing against someone who does not give up when he is hopelessly down in points and still playing like a beast. Nadal had this crazy comeback in this one famous set when he was 1-5 down and 0-40 down and still won it.

[Strongkored]

I thought Christian Garin would be able to beat Casper Ruud easily after the first set he was able to handle the first seed of the tournament well but that's Garin with all his inconsistency playing badly in the second and third set, so in the end he lost.
Casper Ruud also faced obstacles in the previous match but he managed to overcome them as well as second seed Andrey Rublev who had to fight to save a match point from his opponent. It looks like the first and second seeds this time are really facing quite tough opponents.

Rublev will face the home players, if he plays badly like yesterday it is very possible for Altameir to beat him, the odds remain with Rublev but the support of the audience can be an encouragement for Altameir to play well and beat this opponent.

[Marvell1]

You are right, in any sport if play with an emotional state it can be easy to make fatal mistakes and even end in defeat.
There are many players who deliberately make their opponents experience increased emotion and then can take advantage of it to winning.
Controlling emotions should be able to be done by every player, but unfortunately, as you said, many players don't understand controlling emotions so they can stay focused when competing.

I think Nick Kyrgios is one of those players who is easily provoked and experiences high emotions.

@tusandi I feel that when player’s vent it on the court they get extra charged up because they are signalling to the opponent that they’re annoyed and they’re coming for them and this can often effect the opponents rhythm because now they know that the other player will be extra careful and avoid making mistakes. Lastly in this sport it’s very difficult to maintain your cool and masking it is a very difficult task hence I can understand why the player’s let their emotions out during the match.

The best thing for a player is to use the taunting or the feeling of getting annoyed as fuel. This exclusive approach guarantees their genuine triumph, as success eludes them through any other means. Success is not coming in any other way. If a world-class player cannot control his emotions, he is not a world-class player. There had been some cases where the players actually felt annoyed at certain things.

And I even saw someone losing and blaming it on the spectator, who was smoking weed. I can’t remember which player it was. But I found that really funny. The players need to understand that if you lose the match you have to take absolute accountability. And at the same time if you are the world champion you are also the one taking hundred percent accountability. Everyone is going to feel sad or annoyed at certain things. But the best results are going to come when emotions are suppressed. Thinking about some distractions is what your opponent wants you to do.

[Westinhome]

You are right, in any sport if play with an emotional state it can be easy to make fatal mistakes and even end in defeat.
There are many players who deliberately make their opponents experience increased emotion and then can take advantage of it to winning.
Controlling emotions should be able to be done by every player, but unfortunately, as you said, many players don't understand controlling emotions so they can stay focused when competing.

I think Nick Kyrgios is one of those players who is easily provoked and experiences high emotions.

The mistake is common in the game,when the player was get into the emotion.Because after the emotion,the player will get some nervous to play the game.The person who control their emotion in the serious condition will get their victory in the game.The person who use the chance will win and uplift their life to next level.Emotion can be controlled by thinking their of their current status of life.Most of the poor people use the sports as the opportunity to get succeed and to get some government job.This is easiest way to get into government job by the poor people.Nick Kyrgios should handle their emotion to get into the success.Because emotion failure will failure your chance of winning the game.The sports person should handle their emotion and the anger to avoid of lose talk in the field.
 

[casperBGD]

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Meanwhile over at Atlanta I'm keeping an eye and following on Eubanks, he is into the Round of 16 after beating Martin and faces Nakashima tomorrow.

Eubanks is doing great at Atlanta, Vukic is next, odds are looking good

Wawrinka is showing some tennis in Umag, reaching QF, Baena tonight, odds are not great on his win, but should be good to pass through, Sonego and Lehecka are both still in the tournament

Rublev is out from Hamburg, after last week win in Bastad, seems that two good tournaments in a row is not his thing, Ruud has a chance to win it, after last week lose in final
Mussetti starts against Djere, does look good on odds