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They can resume games but it wont be the same just like before where lots of crowds around and also it would be a bit hassle on checking everyone to go inside in the venue from staffs to players down to people who do tend to watch.I cant still picture out the possibility for any resume.
That's the sad reality, less crowd means less income for the organization, and less sales also. I think they are not really making a lot with the online NBA subscription, more of the revenue are coming from sales in the venue and its items. Correct me if I'm wrong, because if my assumption is correct, this means the revenue will reduce and most probably players salary will be affected as well.
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April 17, 2020, 12:04:18 PM |
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..and as long the vaccine isnt available yet then i dont see a reason for them to resume on.
The projected timeline for a vaccine to be made was a minimum 18 months. Hard to imagine that the NBA will wait for that long before resuming unless 18 months from now, the situation still remains. It's a nightmare for everyone. If the virus is now totally manageable and we see now fewer numbers being infected for several months from now even without the vaccine, everything should be back in business by slowly. Isolate those places that established a high number of confirmed cases and remain lockdown even the vaccine will be made. NBA supports lots of foundations and charities, it's not just about their businesses but they can't able to support this if no revenues coming for several months. They also have lots of work employees that will not afford to be unemployed for months to a year. They really needed to wait long time to make sure that the virus is really gone because if they resume playing many people are watching on them in the stadium so for sure many of them are in risky to get the virus so they stopped their play. Once this done everyone will become happy because NBA will gonna resum just few months I think they start operating. So lets say, they do start to bring up the business once again and having those games which do still generate crowd.Do you really think that it would be permitted? Even the virus would become manageable but doesnt mean that it wont have the possibility to rise up again? As long theres host to transmit on, this problem would continue.I cant even imagine on what would happen or things would look like if this will last for a year or several months. They can resume games but it wont be the same just like before where lots of crowds around and also it would be a bit hassle on checking everyone to go inside in the venue from staffs to players down to people who do tend to watch.I cant still picture out the possibility for any resume. Imagine things on how could they possibly do that while even if they will play without a live crowd watching still they are vulnerable since they are dealing with different people on every team not unless if they isolate the whole nba team and play in one area since if that's the case they can continue the league but this thing is so hard since we all know that we cannot see our enemy here and there's a case of asymptomatic person and this could ruin to all of them if there's a one will get infected from the said disease. The commissioner and trump should think more deeply about this since its totally non sense to bring back the business on dangerous situation.
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April 17, 2020, 01:20:54 PM |
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They can resume games but it wont be the same just like before where lots of crowds around and also it would be a bit hassle on checking everyone to go inside in the venue from staffs to players down to people who do tend to watch.I cant still picture out the possibility for any resume.
That's the sad reality, less crowd means less income for the organization, and less sales also. I think they are not really making a lot with the online NBA subscription, more of the revenue are coming from sales in the venue and its items. Correct me if I'm wrong, because if my assumption is correct, this means the revenue will reduce and most probably players salary will be affected as well. It might be. I don't how the financial system works when it comes to profits from watching it live than online streaming. But I bet the live is still the winner there. VIP seats does worth a lot and I bet even sideline are expensive or just that seat behind the players. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Here is the thing though. After all this virus thing people will be like moving in normal like we used to be. They must have really miss doing malls and they just want to get out. There are those who will really want to watch the game.
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April 17, 2020, 02:06:00 PM |
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They can resume games but it wont be the same just like before where lots of crowds around and also it would be a bit hassle on checking everyone to go inside in the venue from staffs to players down to people who do tend to watch.I cant still picture out the possibility for any resume.
That's the sad reality, less crowd means less income for the organization, and less sales also. I think they are not really making a lot with the online NBA subscription, more of the revenue are coming from sales in the venue and its items. Correct me if I'm wrong, because if my assumption is correct, this means the revenue will reduce and most probably players salary will be affected as well. I doubt that they would resume unless there were some sort of confirmation that all players, staff, and coaches are clear from virus. You know they can't risk life over a game. Yeah, live generates more revenue than online streaming, tickets are really expensive specially in playoffs. As for the players salary... I don't think that there are changes into that, you know they fill up a contract that no matter what would be the circumstance are salary won't change until the contract expires or void(not sure with this one, please correct me if I am wrong) even if they play dumb in the court or getting benched the whole time.
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April 17, 2020, 02:06:22 PM |
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They can resume games but it wont be the same just like before where lots of crowds around and also it would be a bit hassle on checking everyone to go inside in the venue from staffs to players down to people who do tend to watch.I cant still picture out the possibility for any resume.
That's the sad reality, less crowd means less income for the organization, and less sales also. I think they are not really making a lot with the online NBA subscription, more of the revenue are coming from sales in the venue and its items. Correct me if I'm wrong, because if my assumption is correct, this means the revenue will reduce and most probably players salary will be affected as well. It might be. I don't how the financial system works when it comes to profits from watching it live than online streaming. But I bet the live is still the winner there. VIP seats does worth a lot and I bet even sideline are expensive or just that seat behind the players. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Here is the thing though. After all this virus thing people will be like moving in normal like we used to be. They must have really miss doing malls and they just want to get out. There are those who will really want to watch the game. Of course, but it will not happen instantly, we need a vaccine to ensure that will be safe going outside again, or live our normal life. And according to some news, the vaccine will take time to be produce, and though there's a cure on this, but we might be re infected again, so we are still not safe outside.
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April 17, 2020, 03:11:55 PM |
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They can resume games but it wont be the same just like before where lots of crowds around and also it would be a bit hassle on checking everyone to go inside in the venue from staffs to players down to people who do tend to watch.I cant still picture out the possibility for any resume.
That's the sad reality, less crowd means less income for the organization, and less sales also. I think they are not really making a lot with the online NBA subscription, more of the revenue are coming from sales in the venue and its items. Correct me if I'm wrong, because if my assumption is correct, this means the revenue will reduce and most probably players salary will be affected as well. Its one of the main sources of income and it wont really be enough even if they make out some sort of private game or isolated one.It doesnt make any sense.. The commissioner and trump should think more deeply about this since its totally non sense to bring back the business on dangerous situation.
Actually it doesnt really need to think deeply because life is at stake if they would force to continue the business even they do know that it isnt totally safe.
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There are a lot of talks about the vaccine that keeps on changing the number all the time, I have heard as close as 3 months and as further as 3 years, it is silly to think that we have literally zero clue about when we will have a vaccine. However I think it will not be 3 years, I do not think it will be 18 months neither, I think it will be before 2020 ends.
I know that normally these vaccines takes up time and that is why projected times are longer than we hoped for, however these projections are considering this vaccine is like any other vaccine scientists develops, which is why it is said it could take 18 months, however reality is this is a global pandemic so there are thousands maybe millions of scientists who are working on it all around the world, I think we could have it closer, which means NBA could return back to normal next season hopefully.
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There are a lot of talks about the vaccine that keeps on changing the number all the time, I have heard as close as 3 months and as further as 3 years, it is silly to think that we have literally zero clue about when we will have a vaccine. However I think it will not be 3 years, I do not think it will be 18 months neither, I think it will be before 2020 ends.
I know that normally these vaccines takes up time and that is why projected times are longer than we hoped for, however these projections are considering this vaccine is like any other vaccine scientists develops, which is why it is said it could take 18 months, however reality is this is a global pandemic so there are thousands maybe millions of scientists who are working on it all around the world, I think we could have it closer, which means NBA could return back to normal next season hopefully.
It stated for the vaccine created since it needs more clinical trials so that they can perfectly done with it and if they rush maybe they can create a product which may have a bad side effect on our body and it's really needed to be tested for safety. But what we need right now is the medicine and I think there are country who are now testing some potential drugs and hopefully one of this will show a good result at can able to cure the virus. So might we will see the nba go live on next season since maybe next year the scientist will find a concrete solution on this pandemic.
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So might we will see the nba go live on next season since maybe next year the scientist will find a concrete solution on this pandemic.
Should be, "next year" but not "next season".NBA's current season will continue. They are now in 3/4 of the season and that should be settled properly. It will not be reset since next season (2020-21) can considering delaying, limited to few games or totally no next season. So yes, 2019-2020 Season can take place or continue next year. No need to reset the whole and back from the start. It's understandable that the usual off-season activity might not happen. Unless the suspension will last the whole next year, that's the time season might be consider resetting. It really depends on the timeline where the situation will be back to normal.
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I am pretty sure there is a difference between having a "covid 19 fixer vaccine ready to go in a pack" type of situation and a "this stuff we used to use for x can also be doubled as covid medicine that helps the patience just a bit to speed things up for the good ones and maybe give a fighting chance for the dying ones". So what I think is we are definitely on the verge or maybe even doing the second one, the first one could take a lot of time as everyone suspected. That is why the talks are so confusing to some people, because there are medicine that is given to sick nowadays that helps them, its not the ideal solution and not the cure for it but it helps them get better a bit so it is definitely better compared to waiting for them to get better without dying, however a cure that will just fix all of this could be along the way down the line.
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April 17, 2020, 10:54:16 PM |
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There are a lot of talks about the vaccine that keeps on changing the number all the time, I have heard as close as 3 months and as further as 3 years, it is silly to think that we have literally zero clue about when we will have a vaccine. However I think it will not be 3 years, I do not think it will be 18 months neither, I think it will be before 2020 ends.
I know that normally these vaccines takes up time and that is why projected times are longer than we hoped for, however these projections are considering this vaccine is like any other vaccine scientists develops, which is why it is said it could take 18 months, however reality is this is a global pandemic so there are thousands maybe millions of scientists who are working on it all around the world, I think we could have it closer, which means NBA could return back to normal next season hopefully.
We still don't know how long the scientist can find a cure to this virus, although like you said, scientist are already working on it and considering 4 drugs already: Scientists have suggested dozens of existing compounds for testing, but WHO is focusing on what it says are the four most promising therapies: an experimental antiviral compound called remdesivir; the malaria medications chloroquine and hydroxychloroquine; a combination of two HIV drugs, lopinavir and ritonavir; and that same combination plus interferon-beta, an immune system messenger that can help cripple viruses. Some data on their use in COVID-19 patients have already emerged—the HIV combo failed in a small study in China—but WHO believes a large trial with a greater variety of patients is warranted. https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/03/who-launches-global-megatrial-four-most-promising-coronavirus-treatmentsBut as what @harizen said, next year should be the right term here. If everything settles down, then probably they can complete the rest of this season next year and then re adjust the calendar year for the upcoming season.
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Scientists have suggested dozens of existing compounds for testing, but WHO is focusing on what it says are the four most promising therapies: an experimental antiviral compound called remdesivir; the malaria medications chloroquine and hydroxychloroquine; a combination of two HIV drugs, lopinavir and ritonavir; and that same combination plus interferon-beta, an immune system messenger that can help cripple viruses. Some data on their use in COVID-19 patients have already emerged—the HIV combo failed in a small study in China—but WHO believes a large trial with a greater variety of patients is warranted. https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/03/who-launches-global-megatrial-four-most-promising-coronavirus-treatmentsBut as what @harizen said, next year should be the right term here. If everything settles down, then probably they can complete the rest of this season next year and then re adjust the calendar year for the upcoming season. It will look like there is a missing year. But I don't think that will be a problem. It is actually a good thing for people to remember how bad the virus is which should not happen again. October should be the new season but from the looks of the number infected in USA then it might be the month of the continuation of this season. They better just finish it and forget about the 2020-21. If they can stretch it then they might make a small league just to finish that season. Something like a round robin maybe.
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April 18, 2020, 11:14:30 AM |
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So might we will see the nba go live on next season since maybe next year the scientist will find a concrete solution on this pandemic.
Should be, "next year" but not "next season".NBA's current season will continue. They are now in 3/4 of the season and that should be settled properly. It will not be reset since next season (2020-21) can considering delaying, limited to few games or totally no next season. So yes, 2019-2020 Season can take place or continue next year. No need to reset the whole and back from the start. It's understandable that the usual off-season activity might not happen. Unless the suspension will last the whole next year, that's the time season might be consider resetting. It really depends on the timeline where the situation will be back to normal. For sure it will be next year since as of now the government hasn't find any solid cure the virus and it will take many months before they can develop a fully working medicine aswell with the vaccine so we should expect that we can see the game on next year around since for sure this will be the safest year to implement since the virus of that year might be controlled by the government.
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April 18, 2020, 11:33:09 AM |
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So might we will see the nba go live on next season since maybe next year the scientist will find a concrete solution on this pandemic.
Should be, "next year" but not "next season".NBA's current season will continue. They are now in 3/4 of the season and that should be settled properly. It will not be reset since next season (2020-21) can considering delaying, limited to few games or totally no next season. So yes, 2019-2020 Season can take place or continue next year. No need to reset the whole and back from the start. It's understandable that the usual off-season activity might not happen. Unless the suspension will last the whole next year, that's the time season might be consider resetting. It really depends on the timeline where the situation will be back to normal. For sure it will be next year since as of now the government hasn't find any solid cure the virus and it will take many months before they can develop a fully working medicine aswell with the vaccine so we should expect that we can see the game on next year around since for sure this will be the safest year to implement since the virus of that year might be controlled by the government. would not expect that this season will continue next year, it is just not good for the business, and NBA is primarily a business, but they had situations like this one, not because the virus, but we had lockout in 1998, when there was no agreement between teams and players regarding money involved, and season did not start until January 1999, instead of October, they had 50 matches per team, instead of 82, and finished the season as regular, this could end up similar in the summer, with shortened play-off, and without audience if virus is settled is next two months
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April 18, 2020, 12:12:42 PM |
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So might we will see the nba go live on next season since maybe next year the scientist will find a concrete solution on this pandemic.
Should be, "next year" but not "next season".NBA's current season will continue. They are now in 3/4 of the season and that should be settled properly. It will not be reset since next season (2020-21) can considering delaying, limited to few games or totally no next season. So yes, 2019-2020 Season can take place or continue next year. No need to reset the whole and back from the start. It's understandable that the usual off-season activity might not happen. Unless the suspension will last the whole next year, that's the time season might be consider resetting. It really depends on the timeline where the situation will be back to normal. For sure it will be next year since as of now the government hasn't find any solid cure the virus and it will take many months before they can develop a fully working medicine aswell with the vaccine so we should expect that we can see the game on next year around since for sure this will be the safest year to implement since the virus of that year might be controlled by the government. I have some news here from https://bleacherreport.com/, not sure if its the latest but according to the report, it will continue even if it will cause the next season to be delayed. https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2880518-report-current-nba-season-expected-to-resume-even-if-2020-2021-start-is-delayedThe 2019-20 NBA season is reportedly expected to continue play at some point, even if it causes the start of next season to be delayed.
Bobby Marks of ESPN reported the financial cost of canceling the season is a major reason play is expected to continue, though the situation remains fluid amid the coronavirus pandemic. The NBA indefinitely suspended play Wednesday night after a Utah Jazz player tested positive for the virus.
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April 18, 2020, 01:24:08 PM |
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Here's a more recent update, they are not really talking about cancelling the season. They are giving a hint on when will the NBA be back. They thought it will be just a 30 day hiatus but now they can't really tell an exact date. But they are talking about being back at around mid to late June. It's a good date but I don't think it will be safe to continue it by then if there are still no assurance that the virus will not be around. It is much safer with the vaccine but it will take some time. The article has updates since the March 11 suspension until April 17. Here's the link- When will the NBA return? Latest updates amid coronavirus suspension
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April 18, 2020, 02:25:48 PM |
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There is no possible way they could actually move to somewhere else to play the games is there? I mean I get that it has to be on US soil most probably and it would be closed doors as well but we all know even if they come back during late June or so, that means they will still have to pick one place and get everyone there, close up literally a town sized place for themselves and play there, hell maybe even be in isolation for couple weeks beforehand so they can be checked and everyone that is in, will stay in and not go out and nobody would come in neither, that way they would be fully isolated at that place as 30 teams and they can be %100 certain since everyone inside is cleared and nobody is allowed to either go out or come in.
However if they are going to do something like that, they should pick a place that is low on numbers of corona, for example they can't do it in New York for sure, thats quite dangerous, what about Nebraska? It has low number of cases and probably good courts as well thanks to college teams, or Vermont because it is one of the best healthcare systems in the USA (thanks Bernie) hell even Kansas is definitely better than playing at risky places so they should pick a place that is lower end and go isolate themselves there.
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April 18, 2020, 02:26:54 PM |
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Here's a more recent update, they are not really talking about cancelling the season. They are giving a hint on when will the NBA be back. They thought it will be just a 30 day hiatus but now they can't really tell an exact date. But they are talking about being back at around mid to late June. It's a good date but I don't think it will be safe to continue it by then if there are still no assurance that the virus will not be around. It is much safer with the vaccine but it will take some time. The article has updates since the March 11 suspension until April 17. Here's the link- When will the NBA return? Latest updates amid coronavirus suspension Kind of a prediction for me. They don't know when will this all be over so they cannot run their business until then. June is still a good date. Yes. There will lot of months left if they will ever end it fast for the Finals. In fact, they won't need that much of months. Players already got their rests so after the Finals they could just continue on into going for the next season. This could also get them back on their feet from all the losses in profits.
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April 18, 2020, 03:07:33 PM |
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Ah man, the NBA playoffs were supposed to start today, 18th April. ![Embarrassed](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/embarrassed.gif) Anyway, something that may cheer you up, ESPN will air "The Last Dance", a documentary following Michael Jordan and Bulls 1997-98 season. Five consecutive Sundays and 10 total episodes starting off tomorrow April 19th at 9 p.m. Eastern. Director is Jason Hehir, "The Fab Five" and a few other memorable '30 for 30' documentaries. More on the story and full schedule here: https://www.nbcsports.com/bayarea/warriors/michael-jordan-last-dance-documentary-how-watch-online-tv
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April 18, 2020, 03:18:29 PM |
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Ah man, the NBA playoffs were supposed to start today, 18th April. ![Embarrassed](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/embarrassed.gif) Anyway, something that may cheer you up, ESPN will air "The Last Dance", a documentary following Michael Jordan and Bulls 1997-98 season. Five consecutive Sundays and 10 total episodes starting off tomorrow April 19th at 9 p.m. Eastern. Director is Jason Hehir, "The Fab Five" and a few other memorable '30 for 30' documentaries. More on the story and full schedule here: https://www.nbcsports.com/bayarea/warriors/michael-jordan-last-dance-documentary-how-watch-online-tvThis will at least refill our hunger to watch some NBA games, I think MJ game in his prime will be the best to watch. I can wait for this to be shown on ESPN I will definitely watch this with my cousins. The one team that called the dream team has also had some documentary is also nice to watch, I hope that they will air it too.
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